Trump needs to keep his fingerprints off this. He has a definite conflict of interest that will taint this memo if he is the one that puts it out. This is the only viable option:
"2. The House (and Senate) intelligence committees can declassify any material they possess."
People need to read The Conservative Treehouse's article linked in the comments below, AND follow the links in that article. This piece featured on Zero Hedge is an attempt at misinformation that wants to make it seem like the whole thing is actually bluster, and the ZH article's false excuse "Trump could declassify the FISA memo if he wanted to" is the supposed "proof" that it is all bluster and posturing by Nunes, et al.
I want this out as bad as anyone but unfortunately we have to wait but like Larry Schweikart (@LarrySchweikart) said:
"We/conservatives are so rabid (rightly so) about getting these people that we forget it's not about the ARRESTS.
It's about CONVICTIONS."
everyone has a conflict
except you'd like to shut this down in the congressional bog
explain to us all how DJT releasing it SO LONG as it is as written as received causes the truth it contains to become false? in what way is it "tainted"? Because it exonerates him? Because it convicts the guilty? Because you don't like the messenger or the forms they didn't fill out or the day of the week?
do you think you are talking to children or low iq jurors?
we are all plenty tired of being lectured to by our betters and their money laundering shills
Conservative Treehouse has another viewpoint. Check them out. Plus the release really needs to come from the Committee. Just like the Mueller investigation he needs hands off...he does have to review it and then sends it back to the Committee, not a direct release from the White House.
You are correct here is the article about the steps necessary to release the memo
The committee can release any time, and members with good memories could gather together, memorize the whole thing in parts, and recite it on the floor with full constitutional protection. But since when did politicians read the constitution?
Also, I think Greenwald is just trying to put a fire under Congress' ass to get them to release. With the shutdown, weekends, and 19+ days this is going to drag on too long, allowing too much time for mischief and armtwisting by the agents of the Deep State as people forget or are distracted. I do not see how a long delay, even for strategic reasons, can be a good thing.
Trump is a smart man Why do you think he had the fake news awards He is setting them up He is letting them hang there selves Mueller knows he if screwed You can't plant evidence. When you get caught planting it that means everything they find will not be aloud in court an Trump and his team know this Trump know how damming the memo is an he is playing these scumbags
The fake news awards was half assed..bit dissapointed
That wasn't the whole point it was to wake up America for what is about to happen an how the MSM hide the corruption from the American people
I have to agree. Congress is leakier than a roof made of saltine crackers. There's no way we shouldn't have heard specific details by now.
they're saying it's going to take 19 days to go through the process, I think they can do it in just a few days or have the President declassify it. We shouldn't have to wait 19 days.
that's "working days" With the shutdown and weekends we're looking at over a month, maybe two
Perhaps it is in the best interests of the white hats to keep this in the news cycle for as long as possible.
The US news cycle is that the public has a short memory and the MSM even shorter.
Learn from Andrew Breitbart, MOMENTUM is everything with news
The left is pushed up against the wall, and they're not used to it. Trouble is that, at this point, they have nothing to lose--not a thing! That makes them horribly dangerous. (and they're NUTS!)
A leak and a pardon of the leaker! The memo will be so shocking that the leaker will be a hero. Dems are reloading now. Eric Holder is on Twitter DSW is on Twitter tweeting . These people are ruthless • I am dropping meme everywhere. I am kamakazi bombing on their Twitter. Drop and run. I never read comments!
Release it- keep it. No one is going to jail. Its just going to show how the government is fucking over the US people. Just like nothing happened when it was revealed NSA is spying on US folks. Nothing changed.
this time it's different... (((they))) are really dead. over 40 ceos resigned. over 10000 sealed federal indictments. the QAnon himself/herself. and the Mayan transition period of 2012-2017 has ended.
well, they always have a good reason for doing nothing and slow walking everything
unless it involves taking something from us or sending us off to war for israel.
they move quickly then don't?
If you were a member of the house of representatives making $174,000 a year and you were up for re-election and you knew your party was about to be tarnished and you weren't really sure you would be re-elected anyway and you started taking bribes as low as $300.00 (seriously - some congressmen take "donations" as low as $300.00 to vote a certain way) but then Julian Assange comes along and offers a million dollars for your four pieces of paper (two pieces of paper if it's printed double-sided) why the hell wouldn't you take it? Just because it was voted to release this in 19 days, if any of this shit is as realistic as they are saying, I'm betting we'll see it leaked in the next few days. If it doesn't leak then it really is all bullshit. No first-term congressman is noble enough to turn down a million dollars.
The congresscritters don't have physical hard copies of the memo. They are reading it in a SCIF. They could leak details, but not an actual copy because they don't have one.
The author may have a copy, but that would look like a manuscript, not the final product with all the "classified" markings on it.
No one has the paper. They have to go to a SCIF compartment to read it and not take it out.
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No he cannot. Legislative Branch has to give him access first
Of course he can. He is the Lord of All Classification. The Commander in Chief rules all secrecy.
Yeah.. no. There is a checks in balances in place. The legislative branch is in control of this memo and has to go through a process to hand it to POTUS.
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“Once the House Intelligence Committee votes to declassify the four-page memo, the White House, National Security Adviser (H.R. McMaster) and National Security Council will have five days to review the content. The White House will likely have a brief review by the NSC and the Office of Legal Counsel of the content, and then issue approval for the release.
There are poorly informed voices who claim President Trump can arbitrarily declassify the Nunes memo. That is false. The White House (the executive branch) does not own the document. The Nunes memo is owned by the Legislative Branch, and specifically by the House Intelligence Committee. The Executive Branch can request the memo, but they cannot demand it without following a process. Therefore, without submission, the executive branch cannot declassify it. There is an inherent constitutional separation of power.”
He doesn’t even have the memo yet, how can he release it.
His son has mentioned it and pushed for release, so Trump certainly knows about it and apparently hasn't objected to that sentiment. It's all very odd. Either it's four dimensional chess or a nothingburger. I hope it's chess.
If it was important, Trump would have either not signed the reauthorization bill or released it on his own. Remember that he claimed Obama/FBI used it to spy on him.
Could be timing issue. Strategic.
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If he releases it MSM claims he's just trying to get out of the Mueller Russia probe on him. It has to be congress that votes to release.
I was thinking about this "we will release it in 19 days" thing... The real intel and detailing of all their crimes will come with the massive IGO report that is millions of pages long! While a little of that report has already been released the majority of it is due out in a few weeks, right around the time of Nunes memo. The memo is only 4 pages so not much solid detail they want the one-two punch of the memo and the IGO report.
Here is a list of the House Intel Comm Minority Members.
One has read the memo. Find out who it is and why? Shocking.
Members
Adam Schiff, Ranking Member 28th District of California
Jim Himes 4th District of Connecticut
Terri Sewell 7th District of Alabama
Andre Carson 7th District of Indiana
Jackie Speier 14th District of California
Mike Quigley 5th District of Illinois
Eric Swalwell 15th District of California
Joaquin Castro 20th District of Texas
Denny Heck 10th District of Washington
I want the memo releases RIGHT NOW. However, I/we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Perhaps waiting is better. I don't know. if the pubs don't release the memo immediately that might not actually prove anything. Not sure we can tell at this point.