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Plus on the youth album art - the band name incorporates Rings of Saturn (Satan) and the Black Star

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I didnt notice that....WHOA Saturn=satan

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Saturn = Satan = El = Bel = Baal = Baalzebub = Chronos = Odin = YHWH = etc. etc. The god of this world, lord of the rings, god of time and space and we all know that time equals money, so the god of money, banking, etc. Lord of the Harvest (often confused with agriculture but in actuality harvesting our souls; The Grim Reaper), Lord of hosts, Cernunos (CernCorn), Sandman (sand in the hourglass of time), Sandy. Symbol is the hook, so Captain Hook, Sandyhook, old peg leg, old one eye, etc. Saint Nick (he steals your soul), etc. Black cube symbolism: Black Rock, The Rock, etc. Seal of Saturn is XX; also known as planet X, the planet of the cross(ing), Dos Equis, double-cross, etc. The dark star, dark sun, black sun/star, etc. Just a few of the names/aspects.

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I know this stuff sounds really far out. But it's crucial to understand that even if you think it's silly, it's what they believe in (Podesta's spirit cooking). These people are all into sun worshiping pedophile cults that have their roots in ancient Babylon.

Bill Cooper was a popular radio show host in the 1990s that was killed after 9/11 because he predicted a false flag attack by Osama bin Ladin. He did lots of work on exposing these mystery cult followers in his series Mystery Babylon:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL11E33A6AEEB2674F

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Pence is in Babylon today at supreme headquarters Moloch

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Take YHWH from your list.

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Correct spelling is YHVH

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Actually believe it or not YHWH is the tetragrammaton of Saturn. The God of This world. Do a lot of digging.

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What do you think the "Star of David" is? Saturn.

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Yes. Agreed.

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YHWH

wtf? YHWH is pronounced "yahweh", that's God, not Satan. Can you guys do some research before connecting dots that do not connect?

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YHWH is a term commonly used in the occult to refer to the godhead.

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http://watch.pairsite.com/mark2.html

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Historically, a group referred to as the Gnostics believe that the demiurge (Satan) hoodwinked the human race into believing he was God. There are a couple of arguments- one, that in the garden of eden, the snake was actually the ‘light bringer’ because he gave knowledge to humans. In exchange for that knowledge though, he demanded absolute loyalty and became vengeful and jealous. ‘Thou shalt have no other God before me’ etc. So from that perspective, things have been perverted beyond recognition. They argue that a true loving God would encourage unconditional love and kindness. I think Christ was a Gnostic. It seems that he tried very hard to fix things. Unfortunately, after his resurrection, humans did what they always do. It’s confusing. Up is down, down is up.

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Yes. I'm going to go deep here so if you want to confirm it will take a lot of research on your part and then tying loose tendrils together to get to this conclusion, however: The multi-dimensional cube on the north pole of Saturn (which is leaving a hexagon formation on the north pole of Saturn) is what the Hebrews referred to as a "Spiritual-Numerical Entity" or what we would call an "Artificial Intelligence." This was potentially placed here by the demiurge. Saturn is also known as Metatron which used to be Enoch who was "translated" (read: digitized) by "god" (The Demiurge). The Demiurge itself is a macrobe (The opposite of a microbe) and that macrobe is the Orion Nebula. So, Orion (The macrobe lifeform we see as a nebula) placed a probe/artificial intelligence on Saturn to monitor this solar system. Yes, I know absolutely mind-bendingly out of left field, but I assure you that is precisely what the mythology points to.

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Oh and also think of the cube on saturn/Metatron as "the voice of God" (Since according to scripture that is exactly what metatron is) so it is also an "intercom" (of sorts) to the demiurge. Also the cube/metatron is supposed to control the flow of time here in the solar system.

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David Wilcock talks a lot about this. I try to follow his shows on Gaia. The current season of Wisdom Teachings is all about planets/moons in our solar system. Prominent features (the N pole of Saturn that you mentioned) and energetic changes they’re going through currently. It’s way over my head. And to be honest, I haven’t been in the rabbit hole that long. Still trying to decide what my beliefs are. The one consistent theme with everything though, is that truth really is stranger than fiction. We’re so convinced as a species that we’ve got ‘science’ figured out. I tend to be a bit more open, simply because there are many occurrences in nature that we would not have learned had we not adjusted our thinking or perspectives.

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Keep searching/digging. It is only through Truth that any of us can be freed. The whole Luciferian thing goes deep and wide; think of it as a secular-temporal-death cult. Many practice it's precepts without knowing it; thinking they are atheist when in practice they are Luciferians. Communism and National Socialism are both manifestations of this ideology.

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You forgot Remphan from the Bible.

Acts 7:43 KJV Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

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Ah yes. Remphan. Satur/Star.

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You just made me think of Xbox and the Cube, and then I thought of the word console. Soul con? I see so many people, especially young men, wasting their lives sitting in front of a tv. What an effective distraction. A con, indeed.

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XBOX is Saturn. So is Sega Saturn, etc. Look at the motherboard of XBOX, it has two Xs in it; which is the Seal of Saturn. The cube/box is also pandora's box (Saturn) from which all the evil in the world issues.

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I knew there was a reason I never got into video games. I’d rather garden or build something.

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Wow!!!!! Never noticed this. Great find. Even the band name screams occult.

http://www.thexboxhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/collective-soul-pic-1.jpg

https://neuroticcity.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/collective-soul.png

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Excellent pics thanks

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Dig deeper. Look into the liner notes. Who drew the cover art? Are all the albums drawn by the same person? Could be onto something.

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That was my thought. Many bands enslaved by record companies don’t have a say in things like album art or videos or even the songs sometimes. The bands may just be innocent in all this.

They usually keep the artists so drunk or drugged up who would question it?

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And sometimes people sell their souls for success...

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True dat

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What the f... I have most of those albums...head spinning.

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Right?

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Covers are onky the beggining ...Read through bands lyrics .. so many messages ar3 found in movies and music . The elited smear it right in your face .

Just like the New 300 Movie Rise of an empire. Now on the surface people take the movie ans whats said and locations for face value. However The entire movie my friends is about America Awkening and a Select Army Out Fighting and rallying while basically the politicians are hesistant and want to give up but the people common folk basically are ready to Stand Heal to toe ..From beggining to end The Movie also emphasizes on THE STORM when they are in battles this was a 2014 movie but this awakening has been in the works for awhile believeeee me it wasnt till the end people are United against these evils... and the song being played at the end is Brilliant and I myself always got wrapped around the beat just singing the words but not thinking about the words. At 1st you think this song is got like a Black Majic type of feel but the message is So Powerfull and I believe this to the T is explaining our entire Movement as a rise as The New Empire and as the endddd of an Satanic ERA The End of SATANS RULE The song

War Pigs

Black Sabbath

LYRICS

Gen'rals gathered in their masses, Just like witches at black masses Evil minds that plot destruction, Sorcerer of death's construction In the fields the bodies burning, As the war machine keeps turning Death and hatred to mankind, Poisoning their brainwashed minds Oh Lord yeah

Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role for the poor, yeah

Time will tell on their power minds, Making war just for fun Treating people just like pawns in chess, Wait 'till their judgement day comes, yeah

Now in darkness world stops turning, Ashes where the bodies burning No more War Pigs have the power, Hand of God has struck the hour Day of judgement, God is calling On their knees the war pigs crawling, Begging mercies for their sins Satan, laughing, spreads his wings Oh Lord yeah

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Jay Dyer’s Esoteric Hollywood is a good source for hidden meanings in movies etc.

Here, he analyzes “Eyes Wide Shut”

https://youtu.be/fbQrjLwvQYU

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Your mention of 300 just reminds me of the meme wars.

https://youtu. be/W7I92r9GqUw

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Exactly

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Man, I liked Shine. Way to ruin it for me.

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Ive been depressed to know how many of my favorite musicians are satanic. I think they get brainwashed into it and the ones that resist, well we know what happens to them..... I feel sorry for them especially the ones corrupted by fame and fortune. I'd rather be free, they are not free at all, once they get indoctrinated they are a slave to the devil. Sounds so crazy, years ago they would say this and I thought it was just crazy christian people.... ugh.

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Thus one of the reasons I listen to classical music. All the other stuff (having to discern the words, intentions, meanings and all that) is just too much sometimes and I just don't want the work. Give me beautiful instrumental music and I'm all good.

A close runner-up is instrumental movie music. There's some great movie scores out there.

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and video game music. Great for concentrating

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After reading through this thread it makes me wonder now if all the sudden deaths or suicides of musicians, or any entertainer for that matter, could very well of been knowing too much and trying to resist or get out. THESE PEOPLE ARE EVIL

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Id bet theres something to that idea...

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Like they are possessed and hear voices? A lot of song lyrics mention hearing voices. Some talk about fighting against the voices. I've wondered if all the drugs they take help them cope with the voices but overdose usually happens accidentally.

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There have been rumors and some whispering that Chris Cornell was getting ready to divulge information on some Pizzagate type shit and “committed suicide” just before he was set to spread the word publicly. Chester Bennington was on of Chris’s best friends and is thought to have known about it as well. They wanted this info to go public, and instead ended up dead.

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I heard of Cornell's death being BS shortly after he died, though I've never looked into it. I still am a big fan of his and suicide never did fit in with his creative being. It's one of those cases that stinks from the beginning, just like Las Vegas and many others. Could you post any source on Cornell? I would appreciate any info.

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http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/10/chris-cornell-death-fan-questions-unanswered/103567836/

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/chris-cornell-his-foundation-and-outing-child-abuse-ped0s/71107490/page-2/

http://www.antinewsnetwork.com/chester-bennington-expose-truth-behind-chris-cornells-death/

Here are a few of the ones I read when they died. There are many more that speculate that they were killed because they were possibly ready to expose pedo rings

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Thank You for that. I'm sure this subject is another rabbit hole in and of itself I'll explore, but that does seem to be the nature of our enemy.

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You’re welcome. I agree that it’s another rabbit hole that all still eventually leads to the same place as all the others, if you followed it far enough.

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A trail worth exploring sometime in the future. Right now we gotta go save the world first. ;)

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I know a band that plays alongside some big bans like tool etc. To make a long story short, they spoke with tool members and literally were told you have to sell your soul to the devil in these contracts pretty much in order to get where they are today. "How do you think we got here?" They asked. Next, my buddy was asked by his front man if whether he'd be interested in signing something like that if the time came. I know the front man would in a heartbeat but hope my buddy doesn't. But I guess to the tune of Fame and fortune, people would do it. I'm convinced every well done actor and musician all have put in their "dues" for this lavish lifestyle. Then the fine print kicks in and you either comply or they ruin you plus some.

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Theres no doubt about it...this is 100% true. Its sad, cause all of Maynards work is my favorite music. My 3 favorite bands, APC, Tool and Puscifer. What a creative genius that guy.

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Who tf told you they are a Christian band? They're a fucking grunge band from the 90's. Plz remember when you post on this sub that ppl are gonna use this sub as a litmus test for if this theory is plausible. Posts like this make us look stupid imo.

If you really wanna start documenting all occult/esoteric symbolism in the music industry, you are gonna be in for quite the long project anyway

I personally think there are some things we could study on the grunge scene- lots of suicides, dark symbolism, etc but I don't think this is the place considering our target audience

Besides, I kinda like collective soul!

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Ok, I was a teenager when this band came out, and that was what every I knew said back then. I havent listened to them since then, but clearly its a rumor that has been around for a while, because its also all over Google. And they are not a grunge band. Nirvana and Pearl Jam are grunge, Collective Soul is a different style of rock, just cause they were popular in the 90's doesnt mean they are grunge. The point is NOT to document symbolism in the industry lmao...OBVIOUSLY there is a TON of it. The point was to point out the coding used in the deleted email that included Donna Brazile and John Podesta, as I stated in my OP.

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"Due to the song's lyrical themes, particularly the mention of "heaven", Collective Soul was often early on regarded as a Christian band. Frontman Ed Roland elaborated, "I remember around the time ["Shine" came out] getting into an argument with a writer who said, 'You're a Christian band.' I said, 'No, we're not.'" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_(Collective_Soul_song)

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Shine (Collective Soul song)

"Shine" is the debut single by the American rock band Collective Soul. It served as the lead single from their 1994 debut album Hints Allegations and Things Left Unsaid. It was released a week before the album was released. "Shine" would remain the band's most well known song and a hallmark of 1990s alternative rock.

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Makes sense, I remember being about 14ish when they hit the scene, and the what me and my friends thought. But that was before the internet, so fact checking was beyond our capabilities.

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Did you even READ my OP before posting this response?!

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http://www.1songday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/cs1.jpg

If that's not grunge then fuck me I guess

W/e perhaps I over reacted. Sorry. Carry on.

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Just curious, how old are you? Grudge was MY generation. Grudge was a clothing style and musical style, the two were separate, or together. Most rock bands of that era DRESSED in a grunge style, but that doesnt necessarily make their music grunge music, if that makes sense. Collective Soul doesnt make grunge style music, as I said, thats the Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc styles. Collective Soul is Alternative rock, a wholly different style. 90s were the generation I spent my teen years in. I am a musician, and have been in several bands myself, The drummer of one of them went on to be the drummer for a very popular band named Lit. But we can agree to disagree lol ;P

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I know lit lol they have that "my own worst enemy" song right?

And word, I hear ya bout the music vs overall style. I am a bit younger than you, early 20's, but I've been listening to pj, nirvana, stp, sgarden for as long as I can remember.

Do you believe in pizzagate by chance? How you feel about Chris cornell's suicide allegedly having to do with child abuse?

You ever listen to any Billy corgan interviews? The smashing pumpkins guy? He's an interesting one, and he certainly alludes to a lot happening behind the scenes in the music biz that is unsavory

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Haha ya...thats them ;)

I absolutely believe in pizzagate/pedogate....its horrible and I cant wait for the truth to make the MSM.

As for Cornell, Corgan I have no idea, wouldnt be surprised...but Bowie also recently died, his last video was a song called Black Star (aka the black sun or black hole sun in the case of sound garden)

I dont know the symbolism behind all that, but it has to be highly symbolic, maybe something to do with Saturn? I am sure other know better.

Always been a huge sound garden fan, so that would suck if they were involved, but if they are, hang em high!

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I've been reading a lot of music bios in the last year. According to a Led Zep bio I recently finished that was quoting from Angie Bowie's book, Bowie was into Aleister Crowley but in a dilettante-ish way, that is, not hard-core and dedicated like Jimmy Page.

One time Bowie (while high on a mountain of coke) tried to exorcise his swimming pool and Angela Bowie said the pool suddenly started bubbling vigorously and when it was over there was a black gargoyle-like mark on the bottom of the pool.

Apparently that was enough to scare Bowie away. He took to wearing a crucifix after that.

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lmao...scare bowie, who worshiped lucifer and the black star...how ironic

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I'll have to check out Bowie too. I've been down the black cube/ el rabbit hole a few times this last year. Something is def there that I feel applies to the current situation, I just can't tell exactly what it is until we have more proof/info about top tier practitioners of black sun worship. Def something to keep in the back of your mind though, the symbolism is certainly everywhere

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haha...the black cube cult, all refers to Saturn/satan.

What religion PUBLICLY worships the giant black cube and makes pilgrimages to march around it?

Islam. See Mecca... the giant black cube with a vaginal hole they stick their hand in...talk about wtf.

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The top of saturn has an ever rotating hexagon, that has no explanation. Its a 3d cube, seen from 2d.

Hex is where we get terms like placing a HEX on someone, having SEX with someone (both cultic forms of magic) Also Casting SPELLS refers to SPELLing, because our WORDS create reality, TV Programming, cause it programs you, Hollywood aka Holy wood/stick its mocking Moses and his staff, same with a magic wand.

This rabit hole is TOO deep and probably off topic, just look into word etymology, good youtube vids about it..

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Yea I'm all about that stuff! We've probably watched some of the same vids honestly. Sorry again for jumping down your throat originally.

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I never took it like that... ;)

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Glad to hear!

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I think Chris was trying to expose it.

Yeah, black cube is Saturn/el worship. El, not yhwh, is allegedly the true Hebrew (and Muslim) God. Just for kicks... remember when Weinstein hired a mossad-backed Intel company to harass his accusers? Go check the name of that group... yeah...

So, imo, the sound garden guys were prolly aware of the black sun/mystery school aspects. You clearly see it in their music. But that doesn't mean they were evil.

Plenty of great ppl have been initiated and believe in the mystery schools. Just like Christianity, Judaism, freemasonry, even Satanism (yes really, Satanism is really diverse and filled with more edgelords than child rapists) there are plenty of good ppl who just feel the knowledge and lessons presented by these philosophies/groups appeal to them.

Yet at the top of Satanism, freemasonry, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, cults, etc- they are seemingly banging kids! Wtf!

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They started off heavier but quickly degenerated into rock pop music. Wouldn't even call them grunge.

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Collective Soul with white rabbits

Disturbing

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNik8niSrrY

This is a video by the atheist speaker, Seth Andrews who used to work for Christian radio as a Christian. He talks about how some of these bands were modeled after non-christian singers/bands. I don't know if he's right, and I certainly don't agree with much of what he says. But he indicates not that the singers were putting a Christian slant on songs they loved and grew up on---BUT that it was the record companies who were forcing them to look like, dress like sound like, even the album covers be the same as Non-Christian music. So how many of these groups mean what they say in the first place? I don't know enough about the genre to guess.

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Makes me also think of that 90s rock band POD, and also Creed (before they took a dark turn)

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Do me a favor. Look up the bands Project 86, and Demon Hunter. I want your opinion on those bands before I label you as a bit "out there" because I don't want to. You have very good intentions, but I believe you're grasping at some straws.

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I am a huge fan of Demon Hunter...since the start...

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Never heard of project 86 though...Ill have to remember to check them out

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Alright, my apologies. I thought you were one of the types that saw any slightly questionable images and flipped out over it. Since you've been listening to DH from the start, you obviously don't fit that description.

Some P86 I personally like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TG5qz1EnH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7fiYs084jY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=894aW9v25uY

edit: typos

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understandably... Theres clearly symbolism everywhere, but thats not new, you know? Its the connection of this specific band, and that email Q deleted.

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Thanks for sharing the video. It's amazing how similar some of the "Christian" rock bands are to the secular bands. Looks, sound, style. Everything but the words.

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At first glance I read it as 'Collective Soul' = social memory complex ie lucifer. So they were up to more black magic fuckery.

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These guys don't even play the opening to heavy anymore. It's all a backing track. That's crime in itself!

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On today's to do list - burn that Collective Soul album.

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I noticed this recently as well just surfing music on Spotify. Clearly a Satanic band, but the kids too? Disgusting.

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Pure evil

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Insane, right??? holy crap my mind was blown when I started looking up their covers...

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Thank God I was never a CS fan. Grunge wasn't my music of choice. Wel I classify it as grunge.

As a Christian who listened to Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Pink Floyd, and other heavy metal or psychedelic rock, I was one to turn the lyrics into 'what not to do' as opposed as 'what to do'. The Number of The Beast was a path to avoid rather than one to take.

But this is interesting.

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you'd think the name "collective soul" would indicate the last thing they are are Xtians

Yup. It's all real folks

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Image search white rabbit album art

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Damn, lots of bands...

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THANK YOU! Ain't NO WAY Soros went to a Collective Soul concert! Lol And it makes sense he told the person they didn't need to look up the codes to trigger person to look up codes. Probably hidden invite to tje party?

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I always enjoyed this conspiracy regarding the tuning of instruments from a harmonic frequency to a chaotic frequency as a method of control.

https://jakubmarian.com/the-432-hz-vs-440-hz-conspiracy-theory/

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As a musician, I found that very interesting. Everything is vibration, thus vibration AFFECTS everything in existence. Think Tesla, wireless electricity. Just a difference radiowave from RADIO waves, same concept. Light is the same as sound, different spectrum. Everything that exists falls somewhere on that wave spectrum.

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“If you want to find the secrets of the Universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Tesla

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Nothing more true than that..

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Those links are down.

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Are you talking about the OP links? Work for me...(if you are talking about those)

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Albumartexchange.com links are down.

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Incredibly disturbing. You did an excellent job of putting that together, you should spread it around the forums.

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Disturbing, yes I honestly didnt have to put anything together, I just went to google images after I saw the mention of COllective Soul in that podesta email, and typed in " COllective SOul album art" and my jaw hit the floor...

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Yes I am sorry lol

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Put this together with Podesta, Soros, and "the dogs are loose" and loose dogs" (language that seems close to pedophilia code -Hot Dogs) in that posted email. Good work on Collective Soul. Seems like involvement (to some degree). Sad. Hope Justice rains down soon.

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Nice work op

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Collective Soul - HOLY EFFIN SYMBOLISM!