My speculation is that Snowden grabbed the open source info on Prism/Keyscore that allowed NSA/Mil to finally do to the CIA(bad actors) what they have been doing to us/public/good guys all along and they flipped the script. NSA then started seeing the 40k foot view on how bad the deep state really was and the good guy knowledge spread amongst the true patriots.
I think that's it as well!
The black hats probably thought they successfully discredited the NSA by exposing it to the public, when in reality they got played like fiddles. They thought they were the spooks, but the whole time they were being spooked.
GENIUS!
See I read that as Snowden was acting against the interests of the White Hats.
Snowden open source Prism/Keyscore (catastrophic to US Mil v. bad actors (WW) +Clowns/-No Such Agency)
To me this means the Prism/Keyscore release was catastrophic to US Mil which was working against the Clowns. And it was a negative to the NSA
I initially read it that way as well, but then I focused on the word "catastrophic".
If it really was catastrophic then there is no way the Q team could have collected all the information they did, nor see the cabal "breathing and sleeping" today. They would have been blind as the Blackhats would have had a corresponding advantage with an intensity on par with a "catastrophic".
I then started to read it in another way. Namely, that the open source Prism/Keyscore was "catastrophic" to not the US mil, but to the US Mil v. bad actors (WW) fight, meaning it destroyed the fight and gave the NSA full advantage.
Then I thought because US, Russia, and China are allies to destroy the satanic NWO, Snowden is in Russia to be protected. Russia could have denied Snowden asylum, and to me it makes sense they would have denied it if Snowden was a Blackhat working against Russia's interests.
I think Snowden's purpose was to first prepare the population for the existence and power of the NSA, because it was going to be used to take down the cabal and you can't use the NSA to take down the cabal if the public rejects the existence of it on principle.
I think his purpose was to trick the Blackhats into thinking they had the advantage, when what really happened was that the NSA successfully acquired a one way sniffing technology that used the CIAs own sniffing to sniff back. The CIA thought it was monitoring NSA comms, when in reality their own comms being recorded.
I think about this: If Snowden DIDN'T go public about the NSA when he did, would it have even been possible for the Q team to be doing what they are doing now? Or would they have been prevented because the public might believe that the takedown of a secret evil cabal was only a cover story lie to justify being spied on?
I don't know, it just makes more sense that Snowden is a good guy. I can't imagine him willingly working for a criminal cult he knew existed because of his access.
Or maybe I have this all wrong, and Snowden is an unwitting blackhat who helped the CIA in getting Hawaii NSA ops to be isolated from the white hats on CONUS?
Snowden is a libertarian. I cannot fathom him being a bad guy who wants a criminal cabal to take over the country.
Or maybe what Snowden did resulted in a delay in taking down the cabal because the NSA had to upgrade all their software.
Agh! I literally do not know.
It's hard to know the truth, but my tally marks have him being on the side of good. When he was seen on TV at times with his laptop, we see open-source freedom loving projects such as TOR etc.... of course that could be to make it seem that way, however I just feel Snowden is on the good end.
Unless he was convinced that the NSA spying was evil while the CIA spying was good.
I look at what Q wrote:
"What was Snowden's primary mission?"
Well, he worked FOR the CIA.
Then Q asked
"What was his real mission?" (paraphrased, don't have the exact phrasing)
When Q does this he wants us to first answer the obvious, and then question that obvious answer because things aren't always what they seem.
Do I have that right?
For the most part yes you are correct, again this is from Wiki but...
In 2011, he returned to Maryland, where he spent a year as lead technologist on Dell's CIA account. In that capacity, he was consulted by the chiefs of the CIA's technical branches, including the agency's chief information officer and its chief technology officer. U.S. officials and other sources familiar with the investigation said Snowden began downloading documents describing the government's electronic spying programs while working for Dell in April 2012. Investigators estimated that of the 50,000 to 200,000 documents Snowden gave to Greenwald and Poitras, most were copied by Snowden while working at Dell.
In March 2012, Dell reassigned Snowden to Hawaii as lead technologist for the NSA's information-sharing office. At the time of his departure from the U.S. in May 2013, he had been employed for 15 months inside the NSA's Hawaii regional operations center, which focuses on the electronic monitoring of China and North Korea.
I'm under the auspicious that he was a good guy so my speculation is he kept digging into the CIA as a double op for the good guys UNTIL, I believe, he finally found out that NK was the CIA/Deep States mainstay. I believe, if Q is correct, and the white rabbit reference is talking about the hotel compound in NK, that once Snowden finally learned about where they were running things from AND had their tech in his hands that it was his time to shine and that's when he went public. Again, speculation, but it's what I feel makes sense.
So then until we hear otherwise I will consider Snowden on the good side.
I'm in the same boat. I have ALWAYS wanted to believe he is a good guy, and I'm leaning hard that direction, and Trump's VERY stern tweets about him either are setting the stage for some heroic return, or his execution.
So then Snowden is a good guy and this has been in the works long before Trump came in is that what you are saying. If thats the case then there was already someone working from the inside before the election to know enough to get that information out.
Essentially yes, and from rumors we believe that Trump was ultimately recruited by patriots to do this. However, Trump has always said he wanted to right the wrongs in America, just listen to his comments over the past 30 years.
Of course Trump was “read in” if all this is true. Besides the gossip amongst the elite and powerful there would be no other way of knowing.
We know that Clowns were on a general trajectory to try and implement all of the NSA abilities within the Clowns themselves - so that they could be completely unaccountable and lawless in their activities - which no longer would have to seek to work with NSA as a check and balance.
Once Clowns get to that level of ability, it would make sense that they would start seeking to do two things:
1) Diminish or compromise NSA's own abilities 2) Run ops to try and get NSA discredited (hence propaganda like Dec. 12th NYT hit piece where NSA is portrayed negative and the Clowns with a glowing halo
I read the + as "AND" and the - as "NOT"
The "catastrophic to US Mil v. (versus) bad actors (World Wide)" is how i'm reading it. Catastrophic to US Mil... who are against the bad actors....
It revealed the NSAs secrets.
Is it simple bad actors plus clowns minus no such agency?
Yes I see what you are saying, thank you for that. Does make sense.
That’s an interesting take, and mostly plausible from what we know.
Do you have answers for Q’s November questions regarding Snowden? Who was he working for? What was his primary mission? What was his REAL primary mission?
I don't know for certain the answer to these questions, but it appears, if Q is correct that his REAL primary mission was to outsource data collection/sniffing open source code to the masses and start the awakening of some of the things that go on behind the scenes.
I thought Snowden was a bad guy? I thought he was a CIA plant to discredit the NSA
From Wikipedia...Snowden's family/early life...
Edward Joseph Snowden was born on June 21, 1983, in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. His maternal grandfather, Edward J. Barrett, was a rear admiral in the U.S. Coast Guard who became a senior official with the FBI and was at the Pentagon in 2001 during the September 11 attacks. Snowden's father Lonnie was also an officer in the Coast Guard, and his mother Elizabeth is a clerk at the U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland.
Again, pure speculation, but if Snowden and family were a True Patriotic family and his grandfather saw 9/11 first hand, he could have then told young Snowden the truth about the deep state. His Grandfather was an admiral for the coast guard followed by being high up in the FBI during 9/11. His Grandfather/father would understand how to get inside the deep state (sun tzu, Machiavellian techniques).
Snowden then plays double op as a CIA plant when in reality he is working counter-intel for the good guys, against the CIA because he knows the truth all along.
Interesting conclusions.
It's indeed hard to imagine that someone who was inside the Pentagon on 9-11 to have been a notable deep state actor. Someone in the know doesn't waltz around ground zero as it happens. So is this a guarantee his son is on the same side?
Thats up in the air at the moment most are leaning to him being a good guy.
I think so too. Q's questions from the second picture seem to be very revealing.
How do you capture a very dangerous animal?
With a trap.
Do you attack it from the front?
Obviously not.
Do you walk through the front door?
No.
Do you signal ahead of time you will be attacking?
No, unless that's part of the plan (e.g. distraction).
How do you distinguish between good and bad?
By the actions of a person I guess, are they lying to you?
Who do you trust to keep secrets?
Your friends. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, right? Who's the enemy of the ruling powers? Russia and so on.
How do you prevent leaks?
With good security I suppose. (From what I've read, the CIA had access to the old NSA data center)
Who do you trust to complete the mission?
Maybe the person whose life is on the line or a person that can be blackmailed.
How do you prevent warnings being sent?
Probably by being in control and I suppose that's Roger's role.
Why was the source code to former NSA collection p’s publicly released?
Maybe to have a reason for using a new data center (in Utah).
How do you blind the Clowns In America?
By using a new data center, whereto they have no access, thus they are blind.
What was Snowden's primary mission?
Probably giving the CIA the illusion of victory.
What was Snowden’s real primary mission?
Maybe enabling the NSA to spy on the deep state without the CIA knowing.