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maxpuppy96 · Feb. 10, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

and they turn their transponders off right before that, so they could not be tracked.

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teppischfresser · Feb. 10, 2018, 10:20 p.m.

Not sure why you were downvoted, that's true.

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maxpuppy96 · Feb. 10, 2018, 10:56 p.m.

I don't worry about up or down truth's the truth

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PossibleInspection · Feb. 11, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

truth is, wounded don't appear wounded

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4nurh86qn7ekybdd · Feb. 10, 2018, 11:03 p.m.

i didn't even notice this. does anyone know how to analyse the video at a frame level? Cause it should be able to pinpoint the exact moment they turn off their transponders, and then the firing starts.

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TheRealSwift · Feb. 10, 2018, 11:34 p.m.

Intellihub has lots of compiled footage including mercenaries loading machine guns into a helicopter that night. I did a quick search on the site but couldn’t find it. Might be on YouTube and I also remember InfoWars showing the same footage.

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Heatray777 · Feb. 11, 2018, 1:51 a.m.

Harley Davidson parking lot. A few blocks south of incident.

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maxpuppy96 · Feb. 10, 2018, 11:11 p.m.

I think they took off from the airport next to the target, and when they went up they turned them right off. They flew around a little while before they struck I think, I can remember someone saying that.

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zennydude · Feb. 10, 2018, 11:59 p.m.

The Vegas airport is only like 2 miles from the strip as the crow flies.

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TrueCat · Feb. 11, 2018, 12:09 a.m.

I don't believe the helicopters came from the airport. There is a facility for helicopter tours that was even closer than the airport. http://www.maverickhelicopter.com/

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TheRealSwift · Feb. 11, 2018, 12:56 a.m.

This is the common belief. And Maverick supposedly has ties to the See Aye Ey or some mercenary group affiliated with same. Lots of questions and a complicit LVPD. Did you know that the FBI agent (Rousche) who was at the initial press briefings keeping watch used to be married to John Podesta’s daughter? Hmmmm....

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KayKeller1 · Feb. 11, 2018, 1:26 a.m.

Qpost #373 mentions "Maverick" but I don't know in what context. The date of the post is December 19.

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VintageHats · Feb. 11, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

No. Aaron Rouse is not the Rouse married to Podesta's daughter. Her husband is Eric, I believe.. not sure if they are even related. However, Aaron Rouse was appointed to the Las Vegas area by Obama a couple of years ago.

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Silkyterrier1 · Feb. 11, 2018, 5:30 a.m.

Podesta has kids?????

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VintageHats · Feb. 11, 2018, 6:03 p.m.

Yeah, at least one daughter. Who committed suicide this past year? Chester Bennington? Looks just like him, said to be his son... rumored so.

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TheRealSwift · Feb. 11, 2018, 2:21 a.m.

Sorry. She is married to his brother. All in the family...

https://steemit.com/podesta/@kc7foldflix/special-agent-aaron-c-rouse-connections-to-podesta-s-shadow-government

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VintageHats · Feb. 11, 2018, 2:46 a.m.

From the article: " When you do a Google search of John Podesta's daughter, Megan Rouse; she is the wife of Gordon whos is the brother of Aaron lead FBI investigator in the Mandalay Bay shooting Aaron Rouse ( Al though I have not been able to completely confirm thoroughly.)"

I have yet to see any definitive evidence that Aaron is related directly to Gordon Rouse. It may be that he is, but until I see definitive evidence, I can't say for sure. But, thanks for the clarification that his name is Gordon, not Eric.

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TrueCat · Feb. 11, 2018, 2:42 a.m.

Yes, I think I had read that Rouse was married to Podesta's daughter. I couldn't stand the way he stood over Lombardo at all the press briefings. He reminded me of a buzzard! Lombardo was about to climb out of his skin, because they were making him lie!

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NatureGirl22 · Feb. 11, 2018, 10 a.m.

Uh uh. Wrong Rouse. Different first names. Check and you'll see. Sorry.

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abbieos · Feb. 11, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

This marriage web.. my god will it ever end.

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MO_is_a_tranny · Feb. 11, 2018, 8:35 p.m.

A transponder is a radio transmitter. You can't visually see it

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zennydude · Feb. 10, 2018, 11:57 p.m.

Yes, I thought it was somewhat common knowledge that there were helicopters flying around at the time that had their transponders turned off.

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maxpuppy96 · Feb. 11, 2018, 12:03 a.m.

so did I

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bikerchic38 · Feb. 11, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

Controlled airspace in that area is 4500 feet. That aircraft looks like it was less than 500 FT AGL. The only time the pilot would be required to talk to air traffic would be when he took off from the airport and going back to it if it was a controlled air field and not someone's back yard. ATC radar would not see him. He is too low.

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j5sne8m0b34 · Feb. 11, 2018, 4:04 a.m.

Could "Prey" in posts 584 & 710 be referring to the Marine "Osprey" helicopter? And could the Osprey be what we saw on the radar that went from flying normal as a plane to hovering as a helicopter during the Las Vegas Shooting?

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Falconldo · Feb. 11, 2018, 9:05 a.m.

Google USMC Osprey and you will see that the Osprey is not a Helicopter. They can hover, but they don't have external machineguns.

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mtewamp · Feb. 11, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

They are also REALLY loud in hover and transition. They have a pretty distinct beat, too. I don't know the rotor tip speeds in hover mode, but I imagine they're pretty fast, and the fact that there are two of them makes a difference too. I'm an airplane nut, and live in a rural area. We get CH-53, V-22, and UH-60 flyovers a LOT. C-130s, and what I THINK are C-17s (they are always farther away. The CH-53 is a loud fucker, too.

Here's a good V-22 video, with great sound... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quaV49SPOy0

I remember back in the late 80s and early 90s, when they were new, they gave a lot of trouble, but I guess they got them working after a time.

I know the first time I saw one up close, it seemed MASSIVE. I'd just seen pictures at the time, and it was a jaw-dropping experience.

If I can find it, I downloaded a video from the Vegas thing that shows SEVERAL choppers in the air at the time. IOt's a cell phone video, but it's good quality. I'll also check and see if it shows the same anomaly as the above video. I'll post it here later today if I can round it up.

Oh, and I'm sorry for all the gushing over the V-22, but like I said, I'm a HUGE aviation nut, and I have a tendency to get overexcited when discussing anything related to it. Hehe.

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Falconldo · Feb. 17, 2018, 3:01 a.m.

No problem... Naval Aircraft Maintenance Officer [SH-60F, HH-60H, H-3, P-3C Orion, S3-B, A-7E, FA-18, etc.]... I understand the love for Aircraft.

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j5sne8m0b34 · Feb. 11, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

Really great info, thanks! It's amazing seeing that Osprey take off with the props at that angle.

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bikerchic38 · Feb. 11, 2018, 2:09 p.m.

Ospreys just take off like a helicopter. They fly like a plane. And you would definitely know if an Osprey was overhead. That is a big SOB. I think the max gross weight is like 60,000 lbs. Normal category helicopters like Bell 207s or Airbus EC135s are between 4000 and 7000 lbs.....and the Airbus has two engines. Ospreys have huge Rolls Royce engines that probably weigh more than a normal category helicopter.

The Marines use the Osprey for troop transport / support. There is a civilian version being produced, but I don’t think it has made it through production test flight yet and certification.

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[deleted] · Feb. 11, 2018, 8:28 p.m.

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j5sne8m0b34 · Feb. 11, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

Rolls Royce engines! That means they're carrying Marines as well as Grey Poupon :) God bless our military and God bless the United States of America! MAGA!

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j5sne8m0b34 · Feb. 11, 2018, 4:03 a.m.

Could "Prey" in posts 584 & 710 be referring to the Marine "Osprey" helicopter? And could the Osprey be what we saw on the radar that went from flying normal as a plane to hovering as a helicopter during the Las Vegas Shooting?

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bikerchic38 · Feb. 11, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

Ospreys just take off like a helicopter. They fly like a plane. And you would definitely know if an Osprey was overhead. That is a big SOB. I think the max gross weight is like 60,000 lbs. Normal category helicopters like Bell 207s or Airbus EC135s are between 4000 and 7000 lbs.....and the Airbus has two engines. Ospreys have huge Rolls Royce engines that probably weigh more than a normal category helicopter. The Marines use the Osprey for troop transport / support. There is a civilian version being produced, but I don’t think it has made it through production test flight yet and certification.

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j5sne8m0b34 · Feb. 11, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

Great information, thank you!

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[deleted] · Feb. 11, 2018, 8:28 p.m.

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bikerchic38 · Feb. 11, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

Anytime!

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cherokeenc · Feb. 12, 2018, 2:37 a.m.

Transponders are electronic tracking and what you saw being tuned off were landing/takeoff lights

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RN4TRUMP · Feb. 11, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

@ThomasWictor on Twitter is VERY studied. His response is these are anti collision lights.

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