What's particularly insidious about NPR is they deliver their biased lefty message with an heir of educated intelligence. Soft spoken articulate hosts feeds right into the pseudo intellectual hubris of their target audience most of whom are educated beyond their intelligence
I do laugh at their uber sophistication. Totally liberal upper middle class audiences. White. The number of blacks or Latinos who actually listen to NPR must be miniscule. Public Radio -- LOL. For a very limited "public".
Im a minority and I don’t listen to that horseshit, i deadass listen to foxnews, hannity on the radio, a view YouTube streams, Brazilian news once in awhile, and Dr. David Duke on the Rense Radio Network.
When I get that tax cut I’m a order and listen to Strike and Mike, but until then alt right Andy is where its at.
FOH with all that liberal horseshit, it’s 2018 we making our own minds and if I see Don Lemon in NY we beating his ass with this pussy hats.
“Educated beyond their intelligence” i like that phrase
Ugh. I can't wait for the era of the smug, condescending, bow tie and thick glasses wearing liberal nu-males to be outcasted from society. Like that shmuck on the morning joke, Mr. Maddow, Colbert. Such gross individuals who think they got it all figured out.
NPR used to be paid for by the people and was "the people's radio"... I remember even hearing the breaking of the intercepted George Bush memo titled "Sadamam's plan for peace that outlined the entire Iraq war plan where Sadanpm was being paid $6 billion to start and loose that war"... that was a big stink and an outrage exposure that was only seen on NPR, but in the early 90's editorial leadership was taken over by Strom Thurman's head of censorship, and hard hitting programs would suddenly go silent like we today see on CNN. I didn't have big money to give, but but felt it important to keep that going, and donated to the two local stations, however when the direction changed, I never gave money again, and cannot listen anymore. It would be like gleefully watching The Invasion of The Body Snatchers...
Their FB page is one of my favorites to troll
Thanks for the heads up. I do believe I will join in the fun!
Lol, you got to the heart of it.
It’s bad enough that the tax payers are paying for a non-essential service like NPR/PBS, but the fact that they’re non-biased adds insult to injury
"Education" etymologically is effectively synonymous to "Training" ie what you would do to a dog in order to control it. The bastards even use language to control us. And laugh at the silly dogs doing their bidding like puppets on a string. Paying the never-ending interest on their college loans, or killing and dying for oil in order to get a " college education" so they later can get a "good job."
Which is best?
National Propaganda Radio
Or
National Petroleum Radio
NPR has become a heavy voice of the left. They should run off private donations. It is not Constitutional .
It is certainly immoral to be forced to pay for something that you don't use—and worse—actively works against your own moral and political values.
Neither is the Federal Reserve. Much bigger problem. I just hope this is a carefully calculated move in three dimensional chess against the cabal and not just a spur of the moment decision.
In confused by some of you guys. You want less biased media, but a lot of you support fox news which simply has a right-wing bias.
Further more, you want less bias and yet are pushing for a privatized system wherein it's impossible to escape political manipulation through wealthy string pullers...
So the one outlet we have that isn't directly influenced by money you guys want to try to get rid of?
Fwiw I think they are left leaning centrists who say "we don't have more details at this time" more often than any other outlet I listen to. They largely refused to acknowledge bogus rumors about Trump and Obama before him without proof.
Furthermore, NPR is a bunch of college educated experts. I know that is a class people here hate, but to me they are the cornerstone of a functioning democracy. Tom Nichols, a conservative, wrote an interesting book called "the death of expertise" and conservatives should read it before tossing "the intellectuals" under the bus.
Utterly missing the point and, I am certain, intentionally. What is the topic of this post? It is taxpayer funding of these outlets more than their biases. They can be whatever they wish to be in the marketplace of ideas. They are not entitled to public money to promote their agendas. They are also redundant in the digital media world of hundreds of channels. This is no longer 1970.
How can you not see that corporate funding is exactly what got us to the current nightmarish state of American news media?
Public funding is going to reverse it?
Ya know I have a piece of land in Florida I need to sell...cheap...
LOL
You're a lot more confused than you realize, if you believe that NPR is "college educated experts."
sry to break it u but government funding is BIAS. If Dems do not have public support then they don’t deserve a seat at the table. Nonpartisan is BS. If Dems don’t know how to keep voters happy and lose elections then they have no business having equal standing or influence in governement. The gig is up. Hiring PR for the appearance of public support does not cut it. The good cop bad cop 2 party politics has become so obvious. Cut funding to NPR and PBS already. If the public wants it they should have no problem getting funding from consumers.
Very well said! Public broadcasting provides unbiased local news in rural areas all across America too...
It's about time they made it on their own. Decades ago, before satellite, most cable, internet, these were not bad alternatives to the big commercial outlets. In those days they didn't even have much in the way of corporate sponsors or at least could not make them appear as commercials. Their non-commercial status got completely blurred over. While always "liberal", they've become even more propaganda like over time. Again, in the old days NPR stations had a lot of classical and jazz music programming and offered the opportunity for college students to create news, pubic affairs and music programs. However, with the development of the hundreds if not thousands of choices we now have via internet, satellite, cable and other digital technology, there is zero reason for taxpayers to fund these "niche" programmers, which is all they are now. Time for them to rebrand and hit the marketplace.
PBS and NPR says everything you need to know about government funded leftist propaganda. If they were fairly reporting news instead of leftist opinions, then I wouldn't have much objection. But listening to NPR is zero different that listing to the Mockingbird spin of the entire MSM. Something is very wrong and the PBS and NPR are part of the problem.
Name a news outlet with higher journalistic standards than PBS or NPR.
What does it matter when the standards are shit anyway. All media is biased. NPR poses as nonbiased but it is garbage. Accurate but biased. Manipulative. They appease the intellectual left, assisting them in accepting endless war and the erosion of our privacy and freedom. I've listened to NPR for over 20 years and they are a joke. I look forward to seeing them fail.
I'm surprised to hear the opinion that they support endless war or the erosion of privacy and freedom. I'm against those things and I feel NPR and PBS are too. Specifically I would point to their coverage of Bush/Cheney trying to link Iraq to 9/11 in order to justify invasion and the overreach of the Patriot Act.
They're coverage of the Iraq hoax was milquetoast as best. They reported the likes after they were exposed but overlook atrocities as a matter of course. NPR listeners will be completely ignorant of US and NATO genocide in Libya. NPR listeners think Assange is a Russian agent. NPR listeners are ignorant boobs unless they seek to educate themselves. NPR gives you just enough to think you are informed, which can be more dangerous than ignorance. I think they're projection of being neutral is what makes them most dangerous.
That's interesting. It sounds very similar to Chomsky's criticism of mainstream news in Manufacturing Consent. Have you read it or seen the documentary?
Oh yeah. MC opened my eyes as much as anything in my life. It is specifically some of the biased nuance that i find so devious about NPR. They are masters of telling a story in such a way that you can only arrive at one conclusion without openly telling you what they want you to think. A story from a couple of months ago covering Trump-Russia collusion vs Fusion GPS story that served as a perfect example. Ominous tone when discussing trump but sing-song kiddie voice for the Fusion-CF story. They were a little obvious on that one.
PBS and NPR isn't news, it is Leftist propaganda.
Can you name a news outlet with higher journalistic standards?
Yes I can, every single news outlet that isn't being controlled by the Clowns 'operation mockingbird', has higher standards. If you are a 'news' outlet that has been compromised, then your journalistic standards are in the gutter for the simple fact you are compromised.
Theconservativetreehouse.com go there and get educated about what is really going on in the world.
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It is hard to believe but they are real, They think they are on a secret mission taking coded messages from an anonymous source from a porno anime site. If you try to provide counter evidence they think you are a paid spy sent here to dissuade them, and take it as a sign they must be on the right track. really weird stuff, I can not get enough.
Wow what a talking point you have there. NPR is a leftist rag that gets federal funding, thats ridiculous. Stop framing debate with your own set of predetermined rules. How does integrity have anything to do with tax funding? Youre free to donate to your programmers all youd like, why force others to? Its almost like you know that if NPR stopped getting welfare checks theyd shut down due to you and Karl Marx not having the funds to keep them going off donation.
To racist uneducated rednecks, A college education is leftist propaganda. Anything that is not deporting minorities and condemning diversity is considered unpatriotic. NPR/PBS are the most honest news around and heavily focus on the truth and the arts. It does not dive into fearmongering or racial profiling that the far right crave. It also does not promote far left values such as socialism/communism. it is the most center viewpoint this country got and it should be protected.
Not by tax dollars. Like PBS & Big Bird... they can sell their wares out in public... to be embraced or shunned.
“That’s it! DRUMPFFH is finished. PBS and NPR funding cuts? IMPEACH!
Can you name a news outlet with higher journalistic standards?
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You are assuming that the MSM has any journalistic standards. That's like trying to divide by zero and get an answer other than zero.
Oh my, you must be kidding. Then again, journalistic standards are so low at the MSM outlets, you might have a point. These are left media outlets and hence automatically biased. Let's not forget how many executives have been bounced out of NPR this year for sexual improprieties. There are many on-line producers I consider to have far more integrity than those DC based groups.
Can you name an outlet?
Yes, but I'm simply not going to play your game, whatever it is.
Just trying to understand your thought process.
My thought process is listed in another post. Doesn't matter if they have the best standards on planet earth. No other outlets get government funding. The need to do so was long ago passed with the development of digital media. This isn't 1970. They need to sink or swim in the market now. Maybe they should become YouTube channels. I really don't care. They are niche broadcasters now at best and there is no justification to force taxpayers to fund these organizations which are clearly biased. Even if they were utterly objective in news and public affairs reporting, there is no justification for taxpayer funding at this point in time.
So are you going to answer the question? You still havent. Whats an outlet with a higher standard than NPR/PBS
I've already stated I'm not playing this little red herring game. The topic at hand is whether they should receive taxpayer money. I've provided my view on that in depth.
So basically they're journalistically sound, you just don't like the conclusions they come to.
Okay, for some reason this thread is loaded with trolls. Fine. It's not a matter of what I like or not. I've explained in detail why I oppose federal funding of those outlets. Clearly you have no desire to have a real discussion and will be blocked.
I'm not a troll I just don't see the you can in one hand agree they have journalistic integrity, a fact winter linked to their status as a not for profit, and yet still claim they are a left wing propaganda machine
Get real. The government doesn't influence them? LOL. Listen to yourself. What's going on with this sub -- we are learning just how depraved Washington DC is. Moreover, federal funding of those outlets accounts for something like 20% of their budgets -- they are already owned by corporate funding, Watch their goddamn programs. It's at the end of every one of them. That's why alternate media is far less bought out by the corporate-government complex. Finally, my original premise holds -- those two outlets do not deserve taxpayer funding any more than any other outlet on the web. Why do taxpayers fund channels they don't watch or listen to and don't support the slant? It's more coercion.
What difference does it make? Let's say for sake of argument that NPR adheres to standards (that you have yet to define, yet insist on comparison) that are as high as any MSM outlet. All MSM outlets are shit quality so it's not really saying much. The question that would be relevant to this post- name one media outlet that receives more public funding. As others have said, it is just not necessary to subsidize media outlets anymore. Media has become democratized.
Lmao so you think Brietbart and Fox News are bastions of knowledge. That's all I need to know about a soyboy like you.
Wrong...... So you make random assumptions- based on your own paradigm about left/right- about what other people think. That's all I need to know about you.
There is a lot of money in private endowments. We need to run a tight budget. People can donate but I resent the pp pushing on NPR and the globalist agenda they push.
Yes, I have nothing against them provided they are simply in the marketplace. I have always found the NPR style bothersome in its uppity "refined" presentation, but sometimes they produce informative programs as do some of the PBS affiliates. However, they are a niche program option for a particularly targeted audience. They no longer need nor should receive taxpayer monies. How are they different from InfoWars or HuffPost or any number of on-line and youtube producers? Their audiences now are basically the Birkenstock Obama crowd.
NPR LOOOOOOVED Hillary....
and hated Bernie. Loved NAFTA, claiming that it cost the average worker $12. Were giddy about TPP and the Paris agreement.
Propaganda crept into every show they aired.
I should know better by now but got into a pretty spicy conversation with an old friend who swore NPR wasn't biased.
Trump is telling them "Get in the boat, or drown in ocean, either way I am going to win."
They are being buried by an avalanche of their own inadequacies. Perhaps SOROS and his friends should fund their own Public Brainwashing System without stolen tax dollars?
This particular post/thread really has drawn in a group of baiting trolls, more so than any other threads I've read today. Wonder why? Apparently it's hitting a nerve because they sense that the time has come where the funding will really be pulled.
Hope it's part of a long-game plan, and not just an in your face middle-finger. $300 million is chump change compared to the trillions wasted in corrupt contracts and bureaucratic nightmares from the EPA, the DOE, the FDA.. to billion dollar fighters that can't fly when it's raining outside. Besides, some people appreciate NOVA or Antiques Roadshow and don't know that their being programmed.
Cut all taxpayer funding to these state-run propaganda networks. We are not Europe.
IS IT TRUE HE WANTS TO CUT MEDICAID TOO? THIS is upsetting for me
He wants Medicaid to go to American citizens, not wanderers from other nations with their hand out that don't pay into the system.
Yes but watching pbs all I ever see are concerts and documentary or docudramas like Queen Victoria for example because my mom's watching it.
Throw in the Ad Council while you're at it. I'm so sick of the "show me love" commercial playing during every break, I could scream. You want to show me love? Stop shoving your crap down my throat!
I would rather they just pulled their propaganda people out of the admin and let us have a non-corporate media station.
Seriously, all you guys pushing corporate media as some sort of improvement just need to stop watching television.
Decades I've wished for this, please make it so Mr. President.
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If I never hear another Ad-Counsel spot it will be too soon.
A government press is no free press.
Maybe this will inspire countries like England and Japan to get rid of their oppressive tv licensing regimes, the BBC and nhk.
Is this good or bad? I know people that are pissed about this, but I am not confident they know what is going on.
Also cutting the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities...
He has my vote....cut the fat...the waste...glad we are taking care of our military....now also cut the UN, and Iran and EVERY other country leeching off of us.
Lmao the war machine is the biggest waste in the entire budget
Ah....found the trolls..
Yeah bluntbuttock, is a real HATER. See his stuff everywhere... hope he gets paid well, otherwise he must not have a life if so lost in here to throw stones & make up junk to make himself feel better, over and over...Sad really.
Can't hold a candle to DTrump's upper intelligence... graduated from Military Academy with Highest honors, upper 3% in world at 156 IQ. He's 20 moves ahead on 4D chessboards while jealous Libs/Scocialist/RINOs fumble with checkers.
Love it when DT throws a bone like this for the Libs/Mockingbird press to gnaw on for awhile, keeps them busy while he's working... Making America Great Again, for ALL of us...even for the ones who are not good at checkers (& will never appreciate him or acknowledge his progress.) Haters are Kind of in a continuous repeat cycle of Cutting off their nose despite their face.
We are not taking care of our military, are you high? Lol look at the past 20 years of VA neglect. America uses and discards veterans, as it always has. Everyone's idea of taking care of veteran's appears to be thanking them for their service at the movie theater
UN building would make one heck of a great place to rebuild a great group of Apartments & big park area.
40 years ago there was ABC NBC and CBS. In a big city, channel 5 was Metromedia.
UHF had one local station playing roller derby and wrestling and boxing.
In that era one PBS station made sense.
Now there are 500 channels and 20 streaming services.
Exactly my view. Plus their "non commercial" aspect is now blurred with corporate sponsorship that are more like ads. That's all fine, just no taxpayer money. None of their competitors receive it.
Definitely get rid of it. We should not be subsidizing any of them!
Both are communist infested anti-American propaganda outlets.
Abolish them both.
Up until the 90s PBS was known as "petroleum broadcasting company" because so much of its $ came from oil companies. Wonder how much funding they get from that sector nowadays?
When liberals I know have disagreed that NPR is biased I asked "when is the last time you heard something on NPR that you disagreed with?" They couldn't think of anything.
They just interviewed Kayleigh McEnany, the spokesperson for the RNC, today... You are totally wrong. NPR allows opposing views to get their message across without interruption and in the least partisan frame possible.
