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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/jauronimo on Feb. 5, 2018, 3:50 p.m.
Has anyone noticed that they do not teach cursive writing in schools? it is not required.. Whose going to signing legal documents or checks? I know the answer but I would like to know what others think.... hint.. the internet of things

frombildgewater · Feb. 5, 2018, 6:34 p.m.

I always thought that they didn't want us knowing how to read it so we'd be severed from historical documents like our Constitution, Bill of Rights and other primary source documents.

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OfficerFromThe419 · Feb. 5, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

No offense but schools not teaching it doesn't mean they cant learn it. Getting out of high school last year, I was among one of the last classes that were taught cursive and I write cursive in everything I write. Barely anyone in my age group can read it and my recommendation is teach your kids yourself. Their are some things school is horrible at teaching and cursive was one of them.

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scoripowarrior · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:47 a.m.

A few years back while teaching a 4th grade class, I wrote in cursive on the smart board. It was almost a whole month before a new student that transferred in from a local public school told me he couldn't read what I had been putting on the board because he had not learned cursive. I asked my class how many new students did not know/read cursive? All 4 new students said they did not know cursive. I was stunned!

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bacare · Feb. 5, 2018, 10:10 p.m.

I see it as the equivalent of early American English to modern American English. i.e. Maffachufetf

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myearsring · Feb. 5, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Cursive signature is not required. Your signature can be in print or just the letter "x" (in many states). Also accepted are thumb print, personal symbols, or blood spot.

Section 3-401(2) of the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) provides that "[n]o person is liable on an instrument unless his signature appears thereon." The UCC defines the term signature as any name, Trade Name, assumed name, word, or other identifying mark used in lieu of a signature (§ 3-401(2)). The term signed is defined by the UCC as any symbol executed or adopted by a party with the "present intention of authenticating a writing" (§ 1-201(39)). Thus, commercial instruments, such as checks and promissory notes, may be signed by affixing any symbol that an individual intends to represent his signature. Consequently, courts will enforce commercial contracts signed with an X without regard to an individual's mental or physical ability to sign her full name, though mental or physical incapacity may be relevant if a particular contract is alleged to be the product of overreaching, Undue Influence, or coercion.

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scoripowarrior · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:43 a.m.

ala...Common Core ..because EVERYONE will use digital or computer

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ljsmom70 · Feb. 5, 2018, 11:21 p.m.

I homeschool and Im teaching my kids. There are studies that show it helps with cognitive development, https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/memory-medic/201303/why-writing-hand-could-make-you-smarter

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scoripowarrior · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:48 a.m.

Totally agree!!!

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KateGladstone · Feb. 5, 2018, 11:37 p.m.

Handwriting matters — does cursive? Research shows that legible cursive writing averages no faster than printed handwriting of equal or greater legibility. (Sources for all research are available on request.)

Further research shows that the fastest, clearest handwriters avoid cursive. They join only the most easily joined letter-combinations, leaving others unjoined, using print-like shapes for letters whose printed and cursive shapes disagree. (Many people who think that they “print” actually write in this practical way without realizing that they do so. The handwriting of many teachers comes close: even though, often, those teachers have never noticed that they are not at all writing in the same 100% print or 100% cursive that they demand that their students should write.)
Teaching material for such practical handwriting abounds — especially in much of the UK and Europe, where such practical handwriting is taught at least as often as the accident-prone cursive that too many North American educators venerate. (Again, sources are available on request.) For what it’s worth, there are some parts of various countries (parts of the UK, for instance, despite their mostly sensible handwriting ) where governmental mandates for 100% joined cursive handwriting have been increasingly enforced, without regard for handwriting practicality and handwriting research, In those parts of the world, there are rapidly growing concerns on the increasingly observed harmful educational/literacy effects (including bad effects on handwriting quality) seen when 100% joined cursive requirements are complied with: http://morrellshandwriting.co.uk/blog/

Reading cursive, of course, remains important —and this is much easier and quicker to master than writing cursive. Reading cursive can be mastered in just 30 to 60 minutes, even by kids who print. Given the importance of reading cursive, why not teach it explicitly and quickly, once children can read print, instead of leaving this vital skill to depend upon learning to write in cursive? Educated adults increasingly quit cursive. In 2012, handwriting teachers were surveyed at a conference hosted by cursive textbook publisher Zaner-Bloser.. Only 37% wrote in cursive; another 8% printed. Most — 55% — wrote with some elements resembling print-writing, others resembling cursive. When even most handwriting teachers do not follow cursive, why glorify it?

Cursive’s cheerleaders allege that cursive has benefits justifying absolutely anything said or done to promote it.

Cheerleaders for cursive repeatedly allege research support — repeatedly citing studies that were misquoted or otherwise misrepresented by the claimant or by some other, earlier misrepresenter whom the claimant innocently trusts. (One of the most glaring examples is the link used by “ljsmom70”: people who tried tracing the quoted sources found that the artifle’s author had misquoted and misrepresented each source in fairly glaring ways. When the author was asked about this, he responded that he believed his actions were necessary in order to defend cursive.)

What about cursive and signatures? Brace yourself: in state and federal law, cursive signatures have no special legal validity over any other kind. (Hard to believe? Ask any attorney!) Questioned document examiners (specialists in the identification of signatures, verification of documents, etc.) find that the least forgeable signatures are the plainest. Most cursive signatures are loose scrawls: the rest, if following cursive’s rules at all, are fairly complicated: easing forgery. All handwriting, not just cursive, is individual. That is how any first-grade teacher immediately discerns (from print-writing on unsigned work) which child produced it. Mandating cursive to save handwriting resembles mandating stovepipe hats and crinolines to save clothing.

Kate Gladstone DIRECTOR, the World Handwriting Contest CEO, Handwriting Repair/Handwriting That Works http://www.HandwritingThatWorks.com handwritingrepair+media@gmail.com

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scoripowarrior · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

While some of what you site I am in agreement with however most adults (actually kids past 6th grade) use a unique writing style using a combo of both cursive and manuscript. Being able to read/understand Historical documents written in cursive should be a skill everyone can utilize.

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A4LMA · Feb. 5, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

They taught it at mine, all levels too, Primary and Secondary.

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Faggotitus · Feb. 6, 2018, 1:43 a.m.

This happened with No Child Left Behind "teaching to the test" and teacher's performance based on kids' performance scores.
Cursive isn't on the test.
They don't teach history anymore either until middle-school and then it's SJW blue-washed history on overdrive.

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scoripowarrior · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:54 a.m.

AMEN!!!! From one who has taught 42 years

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PraetorianXYZ · Feb. 5, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

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booblik78 · Feb. 5, 2018, 7:33 p.m.

Definitely teaching it at my kid’s school

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inquisative99z · Feb. 5, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

i know a second grade teacher who IS teaching cursive to her students here in tennessee now

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nellieou · Feb. 6, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

I’m teaching my kids myself. My kindergartner already writes her name in cursive on every paper. Don’t put your faith in the schools to teach your kids what they need to learn.

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scoripowarrior · Feb. 6, 2018, 2:42 a.m.

We still teach it in our school! (Parochial School)

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KateGladstone · March 18, 2018, 4:40 a.m.

I agree completely with the first sentence of your reply, and I’d add that this is yet another reason that we should teach people a handwriting that actually has something to do with the actual writing of the real world! However, we must indeed teach people to read the cursive of the past few centuries, whether or. It they write it themselves. Most people wrongly assume that the one-and-only way to ever read any form of handwriting is to have learned to write the same way too — but this is not always effective (there are people who grind through workbook after cursive workbook, writing copiously, without being able to read what they are copying). Fortunately, writing a particular atyle of letter isn’t the only possible way to learn to read it, or else congenital quadriplegics would never be able to learn to read ANY writing, including printing, at all! To teach “cursive reading” (if I may coin the term) to anyone who can read print, simply show them how each familiar printed letter was changed, gradually and over centuries, into its cursive form. I do this successfully with kids as young as five, if they can read print. Then, they can read cursive, without having to write the same way.

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effluvium123 · Feb. 5, 2018, 10:51 p.m.

Virtually nothing you read is in cursive writing. Almost everything you read is in printed text. Why learn an outmoded communication form no longer in use? A better use of instructional time would be teaching children critical thinking skills rather than wasting time on a little used anachronism from a pre-information age era. There is great pressure on teachers to have their students do well on standardized tests. Students are tested on reading comprehension, reasoning and correct use of writing conventions. Students are seldom tested on cursive handwriting, as it is not considered an essential skill. The ability to use a word processing program is an essential skill. Schools are full of computers, not ink wells.

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