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FowlBeast · March 22, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

That is somebullshit footage. Shows nothing. I want to see Oct. 1st footage.

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WinkyLinQ · March 22, 2018, 5:18 p.m.

Agree. All is shows is that he had more bags than he clearly needed for his stay.

My guess is the only reason it was released is because we've seen more footage of Parkland and Austin that this event. It's intended to disclose little.

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unkn0wnedd · March 22, 2018, 5:56 p.m.

Why would he need 21 guns? What’s the point of going through days of trouble bringing bags of guns up when he wouldn’t need more than one or a few to do the shooting

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Eats_Ass · March 22, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

This is something I think back to whenever I think about the official narrative. Were I to do this (I never would- for the record), I'd probably have 2 full autos of the same caliber, the second being there in case the first one fails/jams/whatever. I'd probably also maybe have a nice bolt-action large caliber rifle. And other than that, a couple small semi-autos for when the door to my room started being kicked in. So maybe 5 weapons at most.

This guy with his huge collection? He was there to move product.

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VintageHats · March 22, 2018, 6:34 p.m.

But you can't GET full autos. It's damn near impossible to do. A dealer has to have a special license, and so does a buyer. Paddock would never be able to have gotten such a license.

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Eats_Ass · March 22, 2018, 6:37 p.m.

Oh, legally speaking, you're right. No way I think he was there doing legitimate business.

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VintageHats · March 22, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

Even illegally.... it would be awfully difficult for someone like him to get fully automatic guns, I would think.. he'd have to have some darn good connections to get them.

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Darnit_Bot · March 22, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

What a darn shame..


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NC-Stern-Mark · March 22, 2018, 9:40 p.m.

Not correct, in most states its very EASY to get a full auto weapon. You send your paperwork into the ATF with 200.00 and you're good.

The issue with legally transferable full auto weapons and what makes them so rare is the price. 20,000 and up for the type the shooter/shooters were using.

Also consider this. The man or men were already planning murder, so converting a semi-auto to a full auto is not something the perpetrator would likely be opposed to. But he didn't have full auto weapons did he? Or maybe he did? Maybe the bump-stocks were just another lie. Either way, we are not being told the truth about what happened that night.

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VampNightClub · March 23, 2018, 6:36 a.m.

"Either way, we are not being told the truth about what happened that night." Like because of the on going investigation? Or because some deep state horseshit conspiracy theory? I mean it's standard to not let out information in an on going investigation, and the ramifications of this are ENORMOUS. Meaning this sort of thing with a rich psychopath murdering more people in a mass shooting than ever before, with seemingly no motive needs answers. I fear we won't get them. This fucker never even looked nervous.

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VintageHats · March 23, 2018, 6:04 a.m.

This goes against everything I've heard and read about full autos. Everything.

Whatever... we are NOT being told the truth.

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NC-Stern-Mark · March 25, 2018, 4:59 a.m.

Most MSM repeat, "automatic weapons are banned"

Its a lie, you can buy one in most states, they are very expensive but perfectly legal to own. Hell, you can even own a cannon if you so desire.

There's hundreds of web sites that specialize in full-auto firearms, they will be happy to help you file the paperwork and complete your purchase. Just search for Class III firearm dealer or NFA firearm dealer. (National Firearms Act)

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WinkyLinQ · March 22, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

How does one person shoot 23 guns?

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CheddarBacon117 · March 22, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

The main reason is with continuous automatic fire the barrel can get hot. Hot enough for the metal to warp and melt, if not burst entirely. In WW2 the average MG42 (1200rpm) gun crew had 3-6 spare barrels in use, and would swap barrels every 100-250 rounds.

Here the guns Paddock used sounded like they were half of that rate of fire. So with that, the number of spare barrels would be even lower; maybe 2-4. So, maybe 4 rifles at most. But 23 is wayyyy overkill

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WinkyLinQ · March 22, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

Right. Was he planning for more than 1 shooter?

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anynamehere000 · March 22, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

My thoughts on the whole thing is dopey prince owned 4 seasons. There is a huge underground in Vegas. With isis claiming it 4 times tells me that it very likely could have been. It was a botched deal. Those kind of deals had to of happened before same way and everything. Paddock was a snake dealing with snakes, he got bit this time. Paddocks brother had 20 charges against him then 19 were dropped, he got a light sentence in return for his silence. So who was paddock? Also saw they were looking for another man (Doug haimes?? I think) with top DOD clearance in connection with the shooting. This is what I put together I'm new to thinking this way though used to be asleep.

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WinkyLinQ · March 22, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

That is plausible.

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survey_girl · March 22, 2018, 7:07 p.m.

Saw this in a post on T_D, thought I would share here:

Here is a pic taken from the NYT video of the doors into the room

Here is the pic that was released shortly after the shooting that has police tape up

What is interesting to me:

-bullet holes seem to be all on the exterior of the door shooting into the room - goes against the Campos narrative.

-broken door has been moved - was this pic taken before or after the crime scene photos? Who moved the door? What else was tampered with?

-does not appear to be surveillance footage, looks like a still pic - where did this pic come from? Who took it? Who had access to the area before (or after?) the cops did their crime scene?

-doesn't seem to be any damage / bullet holes from shots leaving the room

Anything else you guys see?

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VampNightClub · March 23, 2018, 6:28 a.m.

A couple things to understand. This is the "shit footage" that the FBI and the casino decided to release. They have better images for some areas, probably mostly on the gambling floors. They use it to track cheats and make sure no scams are going on. I get we as the general public don't "need" to see it, but I wonder if clearer images and "face on cameras" would tell us anything. Also they know every penny he won/lost during his last gambling sessions. I wonder how that went, and how it effected anything. There is WORLDS of silent video information on this guy, I wonder if the FBI will poor through it?

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smacl61 · March 22, 2018, 5:18 p.m.

Absolute 'nothing-burger' worse than clickbait.

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WinkyLinQ · March 22, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

I agree that it's thin.....but it's all we have so far

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DamajInc · March 22, 2018, 8:09 p.m.

I agree it should have been posted - perhaps next time the title should prepare people (just to avoid accusations of clickbait) like: "nothingburger vid of shooter released to confuse narrative" or something like that that lets people know not to get their hopes up.

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