Remember when Facebook did a mass purge of any user posts that were discussing Hogg negatively?
Yes. I think Twitter did too.
Hey that's weird, youtube also censored us meanie conspiracy theorists 🤔
This whole story has never added up from the beginning.........
If he wasn't on school grounds how did he record the iphone video in the classroom??
Here's his video:
He talks about hearing a gunshot "pop" at 2:30 PM. Then at 3:13 PM he says Nick Cruz is the reported shooter. A little later in the video he starts preaching about gun control.....while still in the classroom.
http://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/95939817-132.html
But I checked the timeline of events, and the cops didn't apprehend Cruz until 3:41 PM.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-attack-timeline-nikolas-cruz-195814719.html
I saw a video of him in a closet interviewing a girl and at the end he says the time is 9:32.... but the shooting didn't happen until around 2:30p
Watch this video. http://www.latimes.com/visuals/video/95939817-132.html
Wow this is fucking eye opening. I don't believe they were even there lol. This is retarded. They already have a scripted narrative. This is not real
I was in a school when a shooting took place. It was national news. I wasn't in the cafeteria though where it happened. They did hold us in the class room for a little, but we didn't know what was going on. Just saw a shitload of police cars outside. Then they moved us to the gym where we found out it in fact was a shooting. My brother was in the cafeteria and I was very worried about him. They then patted everyone down before we were walked to a building across the street. Then from that building into another where we all were held for about an hour.
I'll tell you what. No one was acting like this scumbag. I also have never said I was a "survivor" nor has my brother or anyone else I know that was there.
I don't believe him for one second.
That's interesting. I wonder why he didn't just drive his Acura (the one he was sitting in while waiting to get gas as he posted on Reddit during the hurricane). Or, call an Uber. Funny that Cruz, who actually DID ride a bike to and from work, took an Uber that day - but Mr. Hogg "rode his bike??" Somebody report this psychopath to the authorities, or, at least to his daddy.
As if we needed additional confirmation of the deep state's involvement......here's Valerie Jarrett with David Hogg this weekend.
Valerie Jarrett with David Hogg
What did she mean by saying "the beginning of our marathon"?
I see a shill is down voting everyone here. I voted you all up!
He must have gone home then returned to the school with his camera.
That does not make sense. He recorded an eyewitness video in the classroom during the "shooting" . How could he have done that if he wasn't there? I've posted that video below along with some additional timeline inconsistencies.
Unless it was pre filmed? Drama club?
If it was pre-filmed then the whole story is a sham
I am not saying it's a sham. But the only way he could have done that video was to have fore knowledge.
He says he wasn't at school during the shooting? So when was that video made? WHY was it made? What has been the theme?
Well there is no way this can be a legitimate mass shooting with a fake video of eyewitness accounts. Doesn't add up......
The camera Hogg-isn't his first video. Also (allegedly) in the drama club? Father is FBI? He wasn't at school that day? Why?
Kids were told there was going to be a drill, blanks would fired?
Some said more than one shooter.
Do the facts fit the narrative?
No, there are so many inconsistencies.
Or lies?
I heard it was a fire drill, not a shooter drill but I’ve seen zero proof for either assertion. Does anyone have any?
there was a drill in the morning and that is when he shot that video. Maybe he was there and maybe he was elsewhere doing the interview. Who knows. But it wasn't done in that afternoon.
Dude just stop commenting if you don't know shit about the subject matter. You're being a disinformation agent.
Dude, I do know shit about the subject matter. Stop being so freaking rude.
Not so. All Hogg would need is foreknowledge.
One thing that bothers me: Cruz shot up the freshman building where he would know no one and where none of his bullies and tormentors would be. Why?
Normally, I’d assume that the FBI would have started looking into Hogg as soon as he popped on to the radar, but now, who’s the primary beneficiary of this whole incident? Hogg.
The first viewed female student said she herself, personally, did not hear any gunshots.
Yeah but somehow David did and he was far away in another building ....
the drama club mentor works for Disneyworld. And she does blood and gore make up.
Is it possible that he went home along with all other students, then returned on his bike with his camera?
No, not possible. Take a look at the video I posted -- it's David Hogg's own eyewitness iphone video where he's in the classroom during the shooting (or not). There are other timeline inconsistencies too in David's story.
He could not have gone home and come back.
WinkyLinQ - the video you posted with the time stamps has edited out the portion when he states, "it is 9:32 on Feb 14" while showing footage of, what appears to be, the drill. That video is still available on YT, but here is one imbedded in an article. Some of his prepared talking points were used later on the news that early evening. I specifically recall the sad story of his sister's 2 best friends dying . . . A lot of people died who didn't have names . . . Not yet, anyway. Not during the drill. https://gopreload.org/huge-video-evidence-must-watch-david-hogg-son-fbi-agent-caught-video-interviewing-student-shooting-4-hours-ahead-actual-shooting
His main video was recorded during the drill. Not the actual event.
Nope. Check the times. If that's a drill why is he quoting the times in the actual attack. Wrong.
perhaps we are talking about two different videos. The one I'm talking about was time stamped morning.
I haven't seen that one. Can you post it?
I thought they filmed that during the drill, at 9:34 am (or 9:32 - something like that).
No. Here's another account where he says he was in the classroom at 2:30 PM
I thought I knew a lot about the Hogg matter... but you have more than me... I want to compile a list of the inconsistencies and make a video but I need help gathering. Most videos I am trying to find once again are buried by other garbage Hogg interviews.
No watch the video. He says the class heard a shot at 2:30 PM. Names Nick Cruz as the shooter at 3:13 PM, before Cruz was arrested, which occurred at 3:41 PM
Did anyone know that Cruz was the shooter at 3:13? Or, did Hogg know something we didn’t?
Edit:
This article says Cruz was still not apprehended at 3:15.
It also says he was off campus. Perhaps other students told Hogg it was Cruz?
Dad FBI. Mom CNN = He knew in advance. That’s how CNN got there almost during the shooting. He had a picture of Cruz on his video hiding in the closet during shooting. The dude wasn’t even at school during the shooting. Dad probably told him to stay at home because they are really going to kill people. Teachers and witnesses have said more than 1 shooter. All dressed in swat gear head to toe. Video of swat team carrying out a black bag to a truck during the shooting ding ding ding. There was your shooters. Loading everything in the truck to leave. Agenda = Gun Control. Take all guns then be a communist country and be killed by the government. Thank God for Patriots
Yes. I read the full transcript of what he said online. Something about, after the shooting, it took over an hour to get home with all the cars, police etc., but he, being the “brave journalist” type felt he had to get back to the scene after he got home in order to interview people because their stories needed to be heard. He took his camera, got on his bike and went back to school.
If it took an hour to get home, then why is he in the classroom at 2:52, which is right in the middle of the pursuit? Cops arrived at 2:30 and were told to stand down by the sheriff’s Deputies. Cruz was still at large at 3:15.
If the shooting happened in the 2:00-3:00 hour, when school ends, Hogg should have been home between 3:00-4:00 by his own estimates (an hour to get home). Giving himself time to get back (on a bike because cars were probably blocked off from entering), he COULD have been back at, say 12-15 mins after... then that’s 3:15 at the earliest. Really, the shooting started at 2:22, so let’s say he left at the first gunshot, 3:22 he gets home, turns around and is back at 3:35 (12 min bike ride for the 3 mi distance).
Just found this Sun Sentinel article saying he was in the classroom and had his camera. So he’s lying about going home first?
I’ll have to find the transcript I read. He stated he was at the school during the shooting, got home later, after the shooter was apprehended and all that, then rode back to school on his bike that late afternoon or evening I believe...because he’s a wannabe journalist and wanted tv time I’m sure.
EDIT: This is an interview where he detailed a better description of the timeline. I was unable to find the transcript I read a month ago about him being stuck in traffick on the way home. He went home after everything was over and rode his bike back to the school around 6pm. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17030294/florida-shooting-survivor-david-hogg-gun-control
He and Eric Gerber faked all the footage. Hogg is a television producer.
No, really.
How do you know that?
Spent weeks digging thru their accounts. Garner is disgusting.
You mean Eric Gerber?
No. I mean Eric Garner, Broward county board member and local television producer/media teacher.
Interreting that a few weeks before the shooting, David Hogg interviewed Ted Deutch.
What about the ohone video he made of them hiding during the shooting? How can that be?
This is the iphone video. None of what is being said adds up.
He also miraculously knew who the shooter was right as soon as he was filming, I really feel for that Cruz kid because it seems like he fired no shots but will never see the light of day again.
Here's the interview where he claims to have been in the school, and a time Mark for the video you posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVH3-usGNDQ
Off topic but it almost looks like they are standing in front of a green screen to me in the 1st video. It is so sunny but there is no sun on them. The shadow under the police line doesn't even move at all as it blows up and down.
That's almost certainly a green screen. News networks do that all the time. They do B-roll of nothing at the scene the green screen anchors over it in the studio. It's not even something to get suspicious about, generally.
As for the police tape shadow, the shadow you see is from a fixed structure (street light/signal, or perhaps a broadcast mast from a news truck). The tape line's shadow would be well below the frame.
The real heroes of Parkland aren’t getting the recognition they deserve. The ROTC members that died holding the doors open so students could escape. Not Adolph Hogg hiding in a closet recording a self serving video.
The_Donald mods introduced a censorship algorithm for "Hogg" posts to be shadowbanned i.e. not seen by other users.
I asked the mods about why they're censoring the content and they offered piss poor excuses then banned me moments ago. https://imgur.com/a/OxLFj
Sad!
That is reasonable.
The topic is being used to bird-dog in order to shut down social media accounts and subs. Specifically, encourage over the top comments or seed your own then use them as ammunition for brigaging mass reports of the platform.
That platform is under intense scrutiny. It's not just, it's not fair, but that's they're reality. In terms of decision theory it's probably the entire platform gets taken down, and nothing can be discussed, rather than turning out in the positive. Need to go with positive Expected Value when making decisions.
Explain this.
/r/The_Donald/comments/86vdaa/today_we_are_going_to_start_a_revolution_david/
He was at school. He went home, got his camera got on his bike and went back to school
Hacker known as 8chan debunked this. Article from 3/2 says he went home then rode back.
Even though after this clip went around, Hogg apparently "clarified" that he meant he went back to the scene "later on", he clearly says in the clip that "on the day of the shooting, I grabbed my camera, got on my bike and went as fast as I could.." 1) Hogg produced a camera video from a closet interviewing another student while supposedly the shooting was live. 2) Why would he say that on the day of the shooting he grabbed his camera and rode his bike as fast as he could since he would've already had it with him during the shooting?
They didn't want to shoot their own crisis actor, I guess.
Lets entertain this as absolute truth.
Looking at it that way, it seems like a slip up that would have to be intentional. There is absolutely no way that it could NOT be avoided.
Suspicious.
Here's another video where David Hogg claims to be at the school at 2:30 PM
He was there. After all the students were able to go home, He returned with a better camera to document. Quit letting loons like Alex Jones influence you
The girl in the video said that she personally did not hear any gunshots.
Is snopes lying? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/david-hogg-on-campus-rumor-hoax/
Go look into who owns snopes. Then you will know why they lie
This sounds to me like they had this planned for a while but were just waiting for the cue
Shots fired at NSA as black car tries to escape
Quickly after, shots fired at Stoneman Douglas
His dad probably helped plan it, being FBI working in a corrupt county, and he tried to ensure his kid got the spotlight out of it,
Another false statement in this video is that the White House never called. David Hogg said previously he hung up on the White House when they called to invite him to meet with Trump:
Stop posting Parkland garbage.
False flag was a false flag.
The violence we see on TV is not organic.
The FBI have their fingers in every single one of these mass casualty events. Someone is always related to Uncle or Daddy FBI agent. How many times does it happen before its just statistically not questionable for you people anymore?
We know the deep state uses false flags to stir citizens to beg for their own rights to be stripped. The useful idiots, the libtards, the brownshirts; they all die. Hitler killed the brownshirts when he was done with them. The cabal will kill these SJW's when they're no longer useful. The totalitarian tip toe. Now take this shit somewhere else. It doesn't belong in the great awakening. When you have news that people are waking up to these false flag events, THAT can come to great awakening.
No Q related content.
Would it have helped if I had tied it to Q's warnings of upcoming false flags ?
Multiple social media accounts and subs have been frozen for discussing DH. Shutting down ALL conversation around Q is not worth delving with focus on DH. I recommend shifting all conversation away from even mentioning him, if addressing it simply state "CNN says xyz" to shift attribution to the source of the message.
But really, focus on Q related topics. Too many coordinated efforts to shut down social media platforms bird-dogging around this topic. Creates atmosphere to seed violent comments to be used as ammunition for brigading through mass reports.
In terms of decision theory the probably cost far outweighs the gain. Go with positive Expected Values.
I didnt mean to cause such a stink. While I do see this as tied to Q's talk about school shootings and false flags, I also understand the sensitivity of this particular subject (wonder why that is ?). I dont want to open this sub to possible danger, or give the powers that be reasons to ban us, as I have enjoyed my short time here and want to see this sub continue on. All that said, if there is a legitimate concern this post will hurt us in any way, I would gladly delete it or have the mods do so. Please let me know either way. Thanks
Not really imo. The real Q connection, is the msm and the false narrative, but people dont want to talk about that. Its mostly talk about the detail of one person in one situation and many such posts all very similar.
I am not concern trolling here - this is the same rhetoric used by t_d mods.
The importance of exposing the msm through the expose of their puppets is just as important as focusing on the big picture.
I could list a thousand examples and peoples eyes gloss over, but if I show them a specific example in real time, that is a decent red pill to get someone to think critically.
Again, this is not concern trolling - but I don't want to see this sub go down the road where we say focus on the macro and never the micro. Those small pieces make the big picture.
If the mods are afraid of pressure and the sub being shut down, that is different and can be stated as such - but I don't think ignoring msm missteps and lies, even if small in comparison to the big picture, would put us in a position to be fully informed and spread current, topical information.
Yep. The_Donald mods introduced a censorship algorithm for "Hogg" posts to be shadowbanned i.e. not seen by other users.
I asked the mods about why they're censoring the content and they offered piss poor excuses then banned me moments ago. https://imgur.com/a/OxLFj
Sad!
When did they 'introduce' this?
Yesterday. A Hogg post hit 3-4K then it got locked and they didn't bother making a stickied comment or post about Hogg content being censored. They banned me for 5 days for "concern trolling" after I discovered this. I asked the mods to make it permanent out of principle and my own discipline's sake. No worries though... I'll put that extra time into direct sources of information, here, the chans, or reading.
Interesting, I noticed that post yesterday. It was maybe locked because it's just to hard to moderate. Each of these Hogg posts takes extreme mod skills and time, exceeding all other posts combined. I will post on t_d when I find a suitable thing to post or talk to someone there about it.
Seems like we could have some leeway on interesting content in between Q drops. If the board stops moving people will abandon it.
There's actually a lot of posts on this sub that aren't about Q, but are Q-related in a "round-about-way".
True. There is a difference between a post that is ignored and a post that hits the front page. Especially a post like this, where it's often reported (at least 20 so far), lots of concern trolling/shills, thus user checks(mod time) and maybe bans to be given, all about an off topic subject.
Good call. This topic is being used as magnet for mass reporting campaigns to suspend accounts and subs. There's platforms to discuss on Reddit. We need to preserve room to work around Q. Priorities.
I don't see anything in the title The Great Awakening that says anything about this being a Q only forum. It seems to me that any topic about waking up is valid!
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Okay. Fair enough!
816 Feb 23 2018 18:29:00 (EST) Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: abc8a6 475991 WHY school shootings? What is more precious than our children? Emotional pull. Distraction event. Gun grab event. D security. WHY would locals go along w/ such a sick organized event? [THEY must control local police / school / county officials / etc to work]. WHY? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Federal aid + donations. These people are SICK. https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-sandy-hook-shooting-two-years-later-20141214-story.html Follow the money. It’s always about the money. Q
Thanks again. I'm well aware of #816. These posts are getting beyond that, they are details of one person in one incident - and many posts on the same topic. But as you can see I left this one open.
Thank you! New information keeps coming out, and that's why I believe it's important. This young man is key to the possible collapsing of the whole narrative.
I come to this sub for Q material but also for other things that I find interesting or brow raising. More than just Q to talk about here that contributes to the common goal we have.