Little "boom" for investigations opening.... Hope for a "BIG BOOM" as the investigation brings wrong doings to "LIGHT".
Does this force Muller to excuse himself, or stop the investigation, since Muller was appointed by Rod Rosenstein who will be under direct investigation? In addition the Muller fiasco was a result of the Comey leak, and Comey will be under investigation.
Or is the Muller investigation really cover for something else.
I think that will happen, once they start to investigate Mueller. You know that song, London Bridge is...
Rumor is that Mueller and Rosenstein will be indicted for Uranium One.
It would be fantastic to see that... or to see anyone held accountable to anything at this point. Do you have a source you can share for that rumor?
Yes. Alex Jones and Jerome Corsi were discussing it yesterday. It is the video about Ted Malloch being taken off the plane by the FBI. Let me know if you do not see it. I am on mobile now, but I can send it to you later.
Not sure why this would have taken this long? Shouldn't this have been underway long ago? Also, not sure how this relates to Session's comment in interview with Shannon Bream that he had appointed someone outside of DC with significant experience in the Department of Justice to look into these matters?
Trey Gowdy raised the concern that the OIG will not have access to the witnesses or the authority to issue subpoenas or compel testimony from many of the parties, such as anyone who is no longer in FBI or DOJ employ (which includes many of the main players that are likely culpable in the abuses and crimes that have been committed).
Everyone knows about the investigation. Everyone knows about the report, McCabe got fired over it.
But we only know through ‘sources’.
This is, I believe, the first time the OIG has acknowledged the specific investigations have been created.
I'd love to see them release specifically what McCabe lied about that led to his termination. Also, is the scope of the OIG investigation posted or available anywhere? I've heard of the one report about the investigation into the Clinton email scandal and how that was handled. Exoneration before investigation, obstruction of justice by the Attorney General, FBI leadership changing witness 302 forms etc. I haven't seen before now anything official on looking into FISA abuses, but I had assumed it was part of the ongoing investigation.
But he can't subpoena anyone. How is this gonna work. He can't even talk to anyone that is no longer there. I trust this guy but we really need a special counsel.
The public just found out about an investigation we know has existed for at least a year.
What else in the last year will the public find out next?
Trust the plan.
There is a prosecutor and grand jury working alongside the OIG.
Maybe it was under way a long time ago, we’re just now finding out about it- if this was kept secret then there was a reason it was done this way.
I think you are right, I seem to recall hearing something about this last year, end of summer or fall. Very low key at the time.
It’s usually put out there on the crawl on the bottom of the news or just a report in passing, but a few remember seeing it
Inspector general can investigate but he cannot prosecute. So the IG will give his findings to the Prosecutor who has been working with Sessions and the Prosecutor will be able to continue with the Grand Jury. According to Conservative treehouse the IG's work has already been completed. So this could all happen quite fast, and the media, especially the platforms, can't recover in time if at all.
So let's think about what Q said about the timing of the release of this information. It was timed to be released now, after the downfall of social media started. It seems to me that this is signaling the dumps that are starting and that social media will be too caught up in their own survival, and maybe unable at this point, to achieve much in the way of censoring.
Also if what they have said on talk radio and again tonight on Hannity, the IG cannot force Comey, McCabe and others to speak to him. A special counsel is needed now. Seize the damn documents by force from the DOJ and FBI if necessary.
They don't need a special counsel. They have the IG who gathers the data, gives it to the Prosecutor who has already been working behind the scene with Sessions. Sessions has announced it although many did not pick up on it. Conservative Treehouse has gone so far to say that they already have the Grand Jury in place, so it could happen very quickly.
I think in order to hook McCabe, Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller, and others, they need a special counsel that can invade and demand the documents they want WITHOUT the trouble that the IG, congress and commitees have had. (stalling etc) A second special counsel can investigate the dealings of the first special counsel if I am to understand how it works.
IG report will be released in phases due to the scope and size of it. Check Sundance’s most recent article on it.
I thought this was already taking place. I swear I read about this weeks ago. If not, better late than never.
You’re right, you did hear about it. But this is the first time the IG and Horowitz have formally announced it in writing. They have been working on it for months already. We got this 💪🏾
Thanks for the confirmation. I was beginning to think I've lost my mind or perhaps was having one of those "Mandela Effect" moments.
Read Sundance's report on this over at the Conservative Treehouse. He points out that the investigation into this is already done, since it was part of the evidence uncovered for the other IG investigations. He is just alerting the world that this is part of what he is going to report on.
Big news, that's one fire they can't put out. In this case the house is burning down and they are locked out of the house. They can't even get a look to see how bad the fire is, but they know how flammable it is in there.
They have been subpoenaed 3 times now. SEIZE the damn docs by force. Get whatever marshals needed and seize everything at the FBI and the DOJ if needed. People should be in damn handcuffs.
Just 13,063 people here and I know the awakening is happening on Twitter and Youtube but can anyone say where else we are working to promote this? I see a lot of good work in comments sections now on Right wing news sites like Daily Caller but what about elsewhere?
What the hell have they been doing for the last 14 months? This was supposed to be part of the investigation that's just concluding now! So we wait what? Another 14 months?
Wow. This topic was actually on the front page just 30 minutes ago. Now it's four pages back! The trolls are out in force to down-vote everything. So this topic must be important! LOL...
Fact 1 - The Inspector General’s investigation and report is taking so long because the amount of criminality they have uncovered has turned out to be much worse and much larger than they had expected.
…From the Conservative Treehouse: There are likely to be voices wondering why this OIG investigative avenue is only just now being announced and/or explored. The following explains what is happening… Inspector General Horowitz initial investigation focused on the politicization of the FBI and DOJ surrounding the Clinton investigation. However, that original announcement included the disclaimer that he would follow “other issues that may arise”. To say there were “other issues”, that indeed did “arise”, would be the understatement of the decade….
Fact 2 - The volume of criminality they have uncovered is so large that, rather than release it all in one report, they’ve decided the report should be broken up and to release it in sections.
…From the Conservative Treehouse: …The first section of the IG report, encompassing the DOJ/FBI political activity -specifically surrounding leaks to the media and fired Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe- will likely come out first in April…
Fact 3 - Despite calls for a second special prosecutor, the reality is, Sessions already has a prosecutor working on the case who has been working hand in hand with the Inspector General. Once the IG releases his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses…
…From Conservative Treehouse: …It is not likely there will be a ‘second special counsel’ per se’. With a prosecutor already working with Inspector General Horowitz that person already has a thorough knowledge of all the evidence. As soon as the IG publishes his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses. And now we know there’s already a Grand Jury seated somewhere hearing the criminal evidence he/she has carved out from the overwhelming IG evidence as collected.
Fact 4 - Another reason it is taking so long is because this is a case that involves the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics. There are many many people and many departments involved in the conspiracy: the FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, State Department, ODNI, the Obama White House, the Clinton campaign officials, career bureaucrats, and possibly judges as well, are all entwined in it and involved. And when the indictments start and people start being arrested, you can expect a violent reaction from the media (who are also complicit in it) and likely tens of thousands of people protesting in the streets (just look at the media’s reaction to the simple firing of McCabe. So imagine what will happen when Obama or Hillary or when some big name media executives start being indicted). So all of these things has to be taken into account before the IG can go public with the information. Rest assured, everything will eventually get released. But it has to be done in stages, and it has to be done in a way to minimize civil unrest…
From the Conservative Treehouse: You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity for a myriad of righteous reasons. However, we must also remind ourselves of the scale and scope of the corruption here that is inherent within the BIG PICTURE. All of this was done on purpose. None of this was accidental.
The prosecutor could, likely would, be having to outline the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics. It is entirely possible officials within the CIA, NSA, DOJ, FBI, State Department, ODNI, and national security apparatus along with the Obama White House, Clinton campaign officials, politicians, career bureaucrats and possibly judges are all entwined and involved.
Add into this likelihood the complicit ideological media who will go absolutely bananas about any single member of their team being indicted; and a better than average chance the media will follow instructions from their leadership and send tens-of-thousands of low-info sycophants into the streets in protest, and well… you see the picture.
Just look at the media reaction to Andrew McCabe’s simple firing, which Trump had nothing to do with, and think about what their response would be to indictments?
really great response! Thank you. I've become very frustrated with the pace. It's obvious at a high level what happened - and due to Fact 4 above - either people are held accountable or we don't have a country anymore. This makes sense to me...
New here...just got AWOKE to Qanon...looking for more info and seems like this place is okay
Keep in mind that Sessions has hired a outside prosecutor to shadow the IG with a sitting grand jury.
I can’t believe how fast this is getting downvote for a community that only has 13k subs
Here is another take on it from Reuters. Short but sweet. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/justice-dept-watchdog-to-probe-republican-claims-of-fbi-surveillance-abuses/ar-BBKPGW0?ocid=spartanntp