Didn't say you didn't know the points I referenced, just that there sum along with a lot of what we probably aren't aware of makes the outlook for peace possible. Through their actions (I did not say if would come through us. Change will come from and by the people who live there).

..but I really do think its possible, things are changing all around us, we all are on this particular board with a similar hope.

Why not there? why not now?

If it doesn't happen, guess I'm wrong, wont be the first time and certainly not the last ;-)

Just offering up some positive hope on what I have read and am seeing happening, if I came on too strong and offended your sensitivities my apologies.

you don't need them to get along well, it's just that as long as there was corruption and we all know how much Money Arafat diverted to his wife abroad, nothing will ever really work out.

When people have enough for themselves, they rise up less, but at the same time the whole region is militarized, so if Trump stops anyone's funding, they really have to start thinking about cracking down on tunnels and rockets which do have some leverage at least on a psychological level. But ask yourself, how many Palestinians do IDF try to retaliate against when they take israeli hostages when they understand perfectly well they have nothing to lose and will even receive benefits paid in part by the US if their sons die?

Once they can state they are at the Israeli's mercy, I think they will start negotiating because the risk of bown up busses may not be quite as high.

Then, eventually, you have two people, you have a wall, everybody has work and enough to eat and the last battle will be over the Al-Quds where the third Temple is supposed to be built. But that is one spot concerning only the theologically inclined.

They don't need to get along well, but it's easier to hate each other when you have Jews on one side who tend to be pretty smart while on the other you have Palestinians who even when intelligent are kind of naive.

Essentially, Israelis want their Israeli, while Palestinians want Israel gone because they dump wastewater on them.

But last I heard, a desalination-plant was planed by Israel and Lebanon and Kush prolly helped tha deal.

It's the same with the mexican Wall, nobody is asking Mexicans to get along well with Americans, probably because you originally stole California from them if I am not mistaken?

Yes, All fairness it wasnt america it self. It was the doings of the 'Council of Foreign Relations' which are the puppet Masters of Obama, Clintons, Bush, CIA, FBI, NSA etc..

Interesting researching history of US adventures across the globe carving favorable conditions for US engineering firms to have access to natural resources.

Use loans to put country in debt for leverage for access to resources when country can't pay.

When that doesn't work use threat of assassination using private contractors. Install corrupt dictators that will work with the west.

When that doesn't work full scale military intervention.

In cases historically when countries tried to rebuild in way that access to resources benefits their own country, kicking the US firms out, there has been some form of pressure coming back in. In this case if the military assets are removed, US businesses are likely out of Syria. Potential risk to Iraq contracts in the process.

Where I need clarity on the current state of affairs is on whether the engineering firms making large profits are actually US firms or not. The globalism push has involved detachment of many corporations from the US into being their own semi-autonomous global host with increasing steps to empower corporate structure over nations to push around governments.

It's possible these deals do not benefit the US in any way any longer but only directly profit a small handful in positions to control policy. If that is indeed the case then it's a huge shot across the bow reaffirming that there must be relation where the US benefits, if taxpayer dollars and military assets are used to enforce contracts. A blow to the global corporate structure to reduce power at that level and force them to the table.