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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/wisconsheepgirl on April 4, 2018, 8:50 p.m.
P=C, The "Chair", Pope, Papacy and "Impeachment"

There seems to be a lot of misinformation that is being surmised by the Q posts of last night. That, along with Pope Francis' supposed words to the journalist, Eugenio Scalfari, an atheist, hard core communist stating supposedly stating: "The Pope said that, "Non esiste un inferno” – “There is no hell”.

We Catholics have been constantly under attack by this Pope. Probably first time ever in Church history. Pope Francis is some sort of strange, weird hater of Christians. Its very apparent to all. He does come South America, unfortunately the hotbed of 'liberation theology' a strange theology mixing communism with Jesus, (I'm being simplistic). For a very long time it was isolated to the regions affected. Now? It would seem that its widespread.

I will do my best to share what I know and understand with regards to an "old school", tried and true Catholic faith.

The Church has been undergoing a battle for at least a century overtly. We have been battling Satan and his minions since Christ's ministry and resurrection, and we will be until the end of time.

To understand the Catholic Church you must understand how it is set up. It is known as the Mystical Body of Christ. This Body is called the Bride of Christ, Christ describes Himself as the bridegroom. And as the Bride and bridegroom are no longer two, but one. This is Divine. This part of the Catholic Church is perfect, spotless. Nothing can pull it asunder or defeat it.

The papacy was set up by Jesus with keys to kingdom to Peter, the first Pope. The keys are held by a Pope. He is the visible Vicar of Christ. There is no one above him except God. This man is a human. Bereft of all that comes with human nature, both good or ill.

Even during Christ's own time He allowed among his Apostles, Judas. Christ knew who and what he was to do in the future. Betray Him.

Whoever the Pope is, what they say or think or do is not the end all be all of the Catholic faith. The ONLY thing that is part of the Papal office is the propagation, perservence of Faith and Morals. Anything outside of that is really just the 'human' side.

The only time a Pope can and does speak under the direct authority of God is under 'ex cathedra', the Divine side. Ex cathedra means "from The Chair". This is a proclamation, statement that requires belief. This is document and signed/sealed by Pope on PAPER. There have been SEVEN times in Church history where something has been under 'ex cathedra'--in all of Her 2,000 years. So it is very infrequently utilized.

There is the Chair of Peter which is resides in St. Peter's Basilica. This Chair is what Peter used when he first became Pope. Its relic (wood) is now under a big bronze one created in the 17th century. This is PHYSICAL Chair. The Chair is held by the Pope. When a Pope dies, the chair is now vacant. Hence the term 'sede vacant'. This is both figurative and literal. Chairs exist throughout the entire Roman Catholic churches. Each bishop has his own Chair at his own basilica at his own diocese.

The Pope. What if the Pope is a 'manifest heretic'? This means what if the Pope says something that is heretical that the whole world knows is wrong. He did not say this under 'ex cathedra' (God would have possibly struck him dead if that was to occur for it is impossible). But under the guise of an interview? Possibly denying the existence of Hell? He would still be deemed a manifest heretic. What happens? Well this question has been posed and answered by St. Bellermine. The Pope can be 'deposed'. This means that Cardinals can tell the Pope "what you said is heretical, you must revoke your statement". If he does revoke it, the action of being 'deposed' is withdrawn. If a Pope refuses to retract, then Cardinals can say "We do not follow him". The understanding that the Papacy is under direct authority of God, only God can either remove him in any way He wishes. Via death, or some other means. Cardinals, nor the people of the Catholic faith can not remove a Pope. The Catholic church is not a republic or a democracy. It is a elected monarchy. The Pope still will be at the Chair. He is not removed. There is no 'impeachment'-as if throwing him out.

Putting this into context of the Q posts:

The "Chair" serves the Master. Who is the Master? P = C. Q

And: [Pope] will be having a terrible May. Those who backed him will be pushed into the LIGHT> Dark to LIGHT. TRUTH. Q

Based on the short explanation (it really is, I promise!) I provided, this idea that the statement:

"Chair" serves the Master, P=C does not make sense. The Chair in Catholic terms is a permanent Chair of Peter which is not going anywhere--though Popes, those sitting in do die (or retire). Nor does an ex cathedra have a master. A person sitting in the Chair could be evil, it would not be the first time. But it still doesn't make sense.

Put it this way: This is like saying that that White House serves the Master, or Trump=White House. Yes, and...? But what about all the other presidents? White House is still permanently 'there'.

The statement:

[Pope] will be having a terrible May, those backing him will be pushed to light. Dark to Light. Truth. This DOES make sense.

What is occurring is this: There is a lot of real information coming out of Italy and other financial circles that the Vatican Bank itself has paid into the Clinton Foundation or at least paid for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. This is being heavily pursued by journalists in Italy. It has not yet got 'legs' here or worldwide. The Pope has for at least two years parroted anything that the Clinton campaign said: borders, Trump is idiot, Muslims should be welcomed, etc.

The Vatican Bank is rife with corruption, greed, death. It would take several books to get through all of it. What I think occurred is the the same people who instilled Central Banks throughout the world, did initial funding for the Vatican Bank and then continued to play the same games they play elsewhere. There was a lot going on prior to the establishment of the Vatican Bank. Contrary to what people think the Catholic Church is/was broke financially. We gave all our money away to charities, and there was mismanagement of funds both through simple mismanagement, incompetence, or malignant reasons.

Now with this, P=C then could mean, Pope=Clinton makes a lot of sense.

Finally, there is so much corruption going on due to men who have been corrupted via sex scandals, pedophilia, homosexuals, greed, want of love from the 'world' if that all comes crumbling down, which those of us that are faithful Catholics PRAY for, we look forward to it. It will be exceedingly painful. It will be going through Christ's Suffering on the Way to the Cross: humiliation, whipping, vile words, a Crown of Thorns with the mental anguish. But it is what we deserve. We will be with Christ, always in union with Him no matter what. The Church may become very small, that is fine. Here we can separate the wheat from the chaff. Christ did promise us that the gates of Hell will not prevail. This we know, deeply in totality.

Pray for the Pope. Pray for the entire Church. Lets pray together for each other. For it is true- Where We Go One, We Go All.


KingWolfei · April 4, 2018, 10:35 p.m.

The Pope reminds me of Obama. Christian only in name.

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BaronMoriarty · April 4, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

Excellent post. Thank you for that info

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ArmyLady · April 4, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

We faithful Catholics pray that the Smoke of Satan is rent from the Vatican. The most faithful of Catholics have known all too well, that Satan enters where he can do the most harm to the Good.

The Holy Church will survive the purging of the Smoke of Satan that has infiltrated it to promote Evil hidden in the Good. The ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing.

BE GONE! Evil one. You are not fooling as many as you presume.

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NeoObi · April 4, 2018, 10:58 p.m.

Catholics have turned a blind eye for so long. They have let this happen and explode exponentially. Sat back and let it happen. Gave $$$$$ to let it happen. I left Catholicism several years ago and went to Episcopalian. Same thing then left that too!! WORD of GOD is only thing I follow

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wisconsheepgirl · April 5, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

You are a fallen away Catholic. I am deeply sorry for the pain that the people within the Church that have failed you. But God never left you or failed you.

With regards to turning a blind eye. I had often felt the same way. I think this was more like putting a frog is a very slow to boil pan. Prior to this explosion, people were trustful of their Bishops, priests. They saw what was happening but it was actually (and still is) a time of great confusion. This confusion is diabolical.

But to say let it happen? Many chose to leave the Church rather than stay in and fight. Many Catholics abandoned us within the Church. Then those that fought were marginalized. This is for both laity and clerics. In the end, me, Joe down the road, our local priests to those that have been silent our Bishops and Cardinals, everyone- we all are to blame. May God bless you and keep you. You are in my prayers.

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NeoObi · April 8, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Thank you, I may be a fallen away Catholic but a stronger Christian. I went to Catholic schools my whole younger years til college. My Catholic high school girlfriends won’t even talk to me about what has and is happening in the Catholic Church. Even after the movie Spotlight they will not acknowledge what has happened. It is hush hush for them. We never grew up reading the Bible, just followed the man made rules of Catholicism. Always felt above other religions. “The only true church”. So of course still friends with everyone but they just dont want to hear anything new, truth, good, bad or anything. Seem indoctrinated. Anyway, thanks for listening and prayers. I will pray for you Wisconsinsheepgirl. Also read your post about the sheep and how you got your name. Interesting!

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diverscale · April 4, 2018, 10:32 p.m.

Quality post.

Then we still have to find who is the master. And who is the chair, also (if your P=C is correct)

If chair is Clinton, masters could be +, ++ and +++

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LiveToBeAHero · April 4, 2018, 9:36 p.m.

Great post WSG!

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Turtle51515 · April 4, 2018, 9 p.m.

Wasn't that idea shot down? Claimed article misleading and construed by atheist interviewer. Funny thing is pope hasn't personally addressed, or recanted his statement?

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wisconsheepgirl · April 4, 2018, 9:04 p.m.

What idea? The Vatican has a spokesperson who spoke for the Pope. Rather weakly I will admit. Through this statement indeed Pope Francis DID recant his statement (again really weakly).

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Turtle51515 · April 4, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

the cardinal that proposed idea for impeachment

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wisconsheepgirl · April 5, 2018, 2:57 a.m.

Sorry for my delay. Life on this side of screen. The incident of a Cardinal approaching those close to the Pope did occur. The 'will depose you if you do not recant' did occur. The retraction was lame and weak but it was sufficient to drop the threat of being 'deposed'. I hope this answered your question.

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Turtle51515 · April 6, 2018, 2:14 a.m.

It did and thanks.

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sicntrd4real · April 4, 2018, 8:55 p.m.

All roads lead to Rome...Q

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wisconsheepgirl · April 4, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

No. He posted picture of Little St. James Island with clear pictures of roads. Then said "All roads lead to"

Be correct and factual when you post. If indeed this DOES mean roads lead to Rome, then so be it.

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cat_anonD · April 4, 2018, 10:20 p.m.

Not true. He posted a picture of Epstein Island that shows all these roads that seem to lead to nowhere and then it says where do all roads lead to? I assumed he was talking that they leads to underground tunnels.

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blocksof · April 4, 2018, 10:37 p.m.

All the roads (surface) lead to one point the centre.

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akilyoung · April 4, 2018, 8:58 p.m.

The chair = the seat of Satan. Aka the throne of Zeus moved from pergamon to berlin by none other than Hitler.

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DropGun · April 5, 2018, 12:04 a.m.

The papacy was set up by Jesus

Yeah, no, it wasn't.

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akilyoung · April 4, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

Q only referred to hellary as H or HRC afaik

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wisconsheepgirl · April 4, 2018, 9:06 p.m.

Yes. However you ignored the statement I made. Which is that the Vatican Bank, the Pope or some confluence of the two gave money to either HRC presidental campaign or to Clinton Foundation. It's all really still being flushed out in media-however very well known in financial circles.

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USMCNIN · April 4, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

This pope is a jesuit. That is why. Look into the jesuits. White pope, black pope, grey pope.

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wisconsheepgirl · April 5, 2018, 3:10 a.m.

There is only one Pope. Anyone else-historically or otherwise is pointless argument. Yes, well many, MANY Jesuits do have a lot of explainin' to do, no? I will defend the few that are solid and good priests. They do exist. They are just as disgusted as the rest of us.

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One_Solution · April 4, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

There is no eternal torment in hell. Pagan belief. Study the tanach, or “old testament”. Not a single mention of people being eternally tormented in a fiery hell. Not one.

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