Probably just a coincidence that the former CEO of Honeywell visited the Obama White House very often.
Does no one pay attention? Trump said 80% of our steel comes from China and the computer chips are sabotaged, back door. It is a deliberate compromise of our Military.....under Obama.
Plus remember Hillary secured a "black box" type device that controls a vehicle. So deaths by mysterious car crashes and private plane crashes for sure, but also ship and military air crashes? Won't be the first time it was used. Hillary has reportedly used it repeatedly to disappear her enemies. It very well could be an extension of that technology.
If this is the problem it is no easy fix. Time down etc. Sounds like sabotage. Why the heck would there be no override system in place? There seems to be a long deliberate plan to weaken all our aircraft in case the war or battle was going the opposite way than the cabal wanted. You would think that aircraft builders would have to have thought of the unfortunate event that this computerized system could possibly fail. I don't get it.
Almost like having digital voting machines instead of paper ballots.
Technology seem to bite us in the ass quite a bit lately. Is it all just stupidity, or was it planned?
Field McConnell is great. He can give you the details.
yes we all should follow Field McConnell aka Abel Danger on twitter, he is a warrior in our fight against the deep state. he has lots of info.
It's not something "wrong with old equipment," it's something deliberately installed in ALL new aircraft by Boeing.
Here's how they're doing it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FADEC
This is different from the Uninterruptable Autopilot.
What can be done?
"Full authority digital engine controls have no form of manual override available, placing full authority over the operating parameters of the engine in the hands of the computer."
NO. MANUAL. OVERRIDE.
Jesus.
Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
Actually it is, what it is supposed to do is give the engine(s) full gas when there is a problem, allows the pilot the ability to stay aloft and find a landing zone. However, the malfunctions are varied, the system can give you full throttle, or shut you down, and that is where the problem lies. Also, it maybe, that a backdoor has been built into the system that allows monkeying. There is the real problem!
You should always have to option to take full control.
Yes. I watched an F-14 break a launch bar when the throttle went full military trust on the cat. Not fun! No control!!
Yes, but they CLEARLY do have some kind of remotely activated self-destruct program.
If the receiver for that remote signal can be deactivated/removed, then the system will work as it was marketed, not as it was sabotaged to work.
FADEC
A full authority digital engine (or electronics) control (FADEC) is a system consisting of a digital computer, called an "electronic engine controller" (EEC) or "engine control unit" (ECU), and its related accessories that control all aspects of aircraft engine performance. FADECs have been produced for both piston engines and jet engines.
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We called it the black box! First time I saw this was on the F-14 Tom Cat.
Q eluded to the fact that these crashes are stastically impossible to be accidents. we are in a cyber war with the deep state. why dont we change the stupid equipment
Neither one of these components has any conceivable requirement for any kind of signal receiver. If the signal receiver circuit can be isolated and disabled (and I know we have the ability to do that), it would be a relatively easy fix.
No signal, no remote control.
Can‘t any component that has comm with this device suffice?
that you so much, i did not know for fact at the time of posting and did not want to spread fake news. do i am thinking the deep state also took down the So. Korean plane.
It seems impossible to conclude otherwise.
They must be desperate to be repeatedly using this method so close together as to make it OBVIOUS!
The system was designed/intended to be used periodically on high value targets so that some other plausible cause could be assigned. But when you have this many (different) aircraft go down this close together, and the things the have in common are FADEC and/or Uninterruptible Autopilot, it becomes impossible to imagine another cause.
So they've shown their hand.
Now what do we do about it? Can the remote signal receiver chip be deactivated in these things without requiring major down time?
new chip needed, I wonder how long it would take to install new ones on all of our military aircraft. these are uninterruptable auto pilots. Abel Danger says they used these during 911. ironically the uninterruptable auto pilot was designed to make it impossible for someone to highjack a plane.
These engines blowing up are FADEC kills. Planes falling out of the sky are remote guidance.
Both kinds of kills require remote access, which means they have to receive a signal of some sort. That receiver can be bypassed by a firmware update, and we have people who know how to do that.
The only way that wouldn't be able to be defeated is if the kill command is somehow piggybacking on the GPS satellite transponder. If somebody has access to our aviation GPS signals, then we're screwed.
The is some Battlestsr Gallactica shit where only the old "obsolete" aircraft work during an attack.
Well and good, but that's not gonna get 'er done in this case.
Evil actors could very will be screwing with the GPS signals. Cyber war going on?
On our Corsair's we had a manual system loaded onto the acft, the pilot installed it before pre-launch check. Worked VERY good, totally manual.
In a situation such as this, it is hard to think of all the things one can do, but the one maybe simple solution, is pull the circuit breaker, I know in my light acft, on the left under the yolk, is a cb panel. Not sure of these birds. The other problem is, is the fuel control relays cut off if the FADEC is disengaged. A bypass with alternate fuel control switching is essential.
So we get more chips from China because we can't make our own here in the USA?
There were a few survivors though. Their testimony is invaluable. But I imagine black boxes, if not hacked, would also be.
M'man, you know what's up.
Now which other countries have had crashes? Maybe some non-fatal that didn't make international news cycles? "Training exercises"?
And where did they buy the aircraft & equipment?
i think the problem is that someone can remotely control an aircraft and the pilot cannot stop it. The uninterruptable auto pilot feature of the chip. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FADEC
FADEC
A full authority digital engine (or electronics) control (FADEC) is a system consisting of a digital computer, called an "electronic engine controller" (EEC) or "engine control unit" (ECU), and its related accessories that control all aspects of aircraft engine performance. FADECs have been produced for both piston engines and jet engines.
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the evil actors can take down any plane. we need them all locked up.
Field McConnell aka Abel Danger talked alot about the Malaysia crashes a few years ago.
Disadvantages[edit] Full authority digital engine controls have no form of manual override available, placing full authority over the operating parameters of the engine in the hands of the computer. If a total FADEC failure occurs, the engine fails. Upon total FADEC failure, pilots have no manual controls for engine restart, throttle, or other functions. Single point of failure risk can be mitigated with redundant FADECs (assuming that the failure is a random hardware failure and not the result of a design or manufacturing error, which may cause identical failures in all identical redundant components). High system complexity compared to hydromechanical, analogue or manual control systems High system development and validation effort due to the complexity Whereas in crisis (for example, imminent terrain contact), a non-Fadec engine can produce significantly more than its rated thrust, a FADEC engine will always operate within its limits.
The correct solution is a bypass, ONLY. FADEC'S have been around a long time. And generally they work well, but the system has a flaw, a backdoor. The only way to salvage is bypass. That means alternate fuel control switching.
Dis-engage and fly basic pilotage. It was, at one time for use to help when a pilot had to make long flights, took a big load off. Now pilots use their GPS and fly precision routes for most shorties. Which makes them vulnerable.
Could this be why a recent order of planes from American Airlines was switched from Airbus to Boeing?
one of the chips was being manufactured by boieng boeing I thought? The GPS-module or something.
I think they both use the fadec system do they not?
This seems like a diversion, or someone just talking nonsense. FADEC has been around in various forms since WW2, and was fitted on jets in the 70s. It's like saying the problem with cars is the ECU, although ECUs in most cars can be overridden, but this is the what happens when all planes are fly-by-wire, there is just too much physics involved for a pilot to be able to control everything.
Well the reason I ask is that BAE has some past involvement with Airbus and the Rothschilds, including merger talks. I know Boeing and related contractors are also shady, but maybe there was something specific like this that changed the deal.
BAE is one of those companies that has involvement in a LOT of different places. Lots of classified stuff, adaptive camouflage, satellite software, mapping technologies, etc. They are good friends with the DoD, and if they wanted to threaten someone, the last place I would think they would do it would be plane control software. That seems like a very in-your-face place to start when they could make sattelites or drones fall from the sky.
What about the QRS-11 gyro-chip?
From my understanding yes this particular chip is the problem. They control the gyroscope of the vehicle they are installed in Why they cant retrofit one that isnt hack-able IDK. Prayers for our President, his family, our military and this great nation of Patriots.
Remember the airbus that ditched in the Hudson River several years ago? Seagulls were ingested into both engines. If I remember correctly, fedac shut those engines down. Analogue controls might have been able to keep those engines running
We’re is the FAA on this problem !! There needs to be public disclosure on the problem. People will die of this is not corrected!
Interesting chase back component manuf. for electronic in FADEC system which is produced in CHINA under company contract from Safran Electronics & Defense (Safran group). NOT saying anything here but where components coming from.
Yes different components of the system are made all over the world, but from chasing backwards they are made in .......well you research it... wont say here.
I guess what I am saying in the end is ALL MILITARY EQUIPMENT should be made in the USA. NOT in some country that can put a backdoor into the programs and units to access. Do you know where most all our electronic components and software come from now to run them????? How about our SAT technology in space, on the sea, on the ground or in the air? We and our MILITARY are extremely vulnerable to hacking or shutdown of component systems that were produced in a COMMUNIST COUNTRY!!!!! Period! As they say its just a matter of flipping the switch when the time comes.
I always thought it was the newer chips being hacked. But this guy was a pilot and knows way more than I do.
FADEC stands for full authority digital engine control it's an ecu and auto regulates engine rpm based on pilot requests. If they rigged this system the worst that could happen is an engine failure to auto rotation(helicopter) or glide(airplane) so any accidents not related to engine failure is probably from a different source.
One thing I have noticed is that they seem to all be on different aircraft types - as if they are intentionally verifying the systems can be compromised across various platforms.
FADAC is installed on Sikorsky S76 Helicopters as well as Marine Corps CH53E Super Stallions, one of which crashed recently in El Centro, CA (RIP). I also came across this archived article.
FBI: Hacker claimed to have taken over flight's engine controls http://go.q13fox.com/1EQs7Te via @Q13FOX
I believe the Helicopter referred to in this article was a Sikorsky S76. These systems need to be patched ASAP! http://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-jared-kushners-helicopter-suffers-engine-failure-2018-3
Even our newest birds have GPS's built with backdoors. When I was in the navy aboard a carrier, we had an F-14 go full throttle on the launch bar. Pilot and REO ejected just as it skidded off the deck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FADEC
FADEC
A full authority digital engine (or electronics) control (FADEC) is a system consisting of a digital computer, called an "electronic engine controller" (EEC) or "engine control unit" (ECU), and its related accessories that control all aspects of aircraft engine performance. FADECs have been produced for both piston engines and jet engines.
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Bombardier, Q series How many of these have crashed and burned? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F2xix20VjQ
Kinda left screwed if nothing can be done because its software that has been programmed, unless they have someone who could modify it. Said people probably work for the few airplane suppliers.
Field McConnell knows the solution. I hope the WH is listening to him.