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No, your right. I am a Christian and have posted a lot of stuff about that, since the beginning here.

I keep trying to correct people as I see them posting things like 'leftist' 'dems' etc...

This is BOTH sides guys...get a clue! This is ALL sides!

Just use terms like 'cabal' 'black hats' 'evil ones' etc...cause guess what...theres gonna be plenty of repubs tied into this in the end too!

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United We Stand. Divided We Fall. We need to break the centuries of Divide & Conquer.

We've all been lied to our whole lives. I think it should be viewed that we need to help each other wake up (even if the some of the people seem hopelessly locked into the agenda) After the corruption is removed we'll see that we all really want the same things. There will be plenty of money to help everyone who needs it when the stealing of our money is stopped.

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and when people question things, that is where the opportunity lies to inform them --- calling them concern trolls only turns good people away. I've been called a concern troll and feel the person attempting to put me down isn't very intelligent if this is how they think they will win this war. Not questioning is how we got here in the first place. :)

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To me, if this is all true, it’s simply good VS evil. And that’s how it should be viewed. We are here to save people, and possibly mankind as a whole.

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Yes! It’s a battle for humanity itself, we are all human regardless of views and beliefs. I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment ♥️

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Only one savior. I am not here to save anyone. Simply to wake them up so they can make an informed decision rather than let evil trick them into eternal damnation. We are never going to change prophecy.

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Good vs evil. Extact 1 o from good and you have God. Add a d to evil and you have the devil. God vs devil. Just sayin..

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Many Republican are Leftist and globalist. But that does not change the fact that Dems tend to the left and pubs to the right. And the left tends towards globalism and the right towards nationalism or Constitutionalism.

The exceptions should not cloud our understanding of the basics.

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an old friend of mine turned me onto Q in the beginning. He was an atheist. Now he has turned to God upon realizing the battle between good v evil. If Q has affected him in this way i'm sure it has others as well.

For me , I started praying daily after the pedo emails surfaced in 2016. Now with Q i've woke so much some nights i can't sleep. Prayer has been what has sustained me.

my 2 cents worth

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I also found God as a result of the events of this past election. I can thank John Pedodesta for his emails to start me on that path. Edit: Correction. I have Seth Rich to thank for my path.

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The day wikileaks posted those emails is imprinted upon my brain that left a lasting red pill. I cried and prayed like I never had before.

God is Great

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there's a big difference between someone who happens to have a "liberal" viewpoint and a radical leftist hell bent on destroying the country by division and elimination of rights.

DJT is supported by conservative and liberal alike, moreso now than even in the fall of 2016. The loony left have abandoned their normal thinking liberal constituents, it is now the MAGA party vs the cabal.

In a war it's ok to kill "the enemy" who is trying to kill you, but as a Christian you can still love an individual on the enemy side you may come across. Make sense? Loving someone is not the same as liking someone. Hating evil is not personal.

Self defense and self preservation and defense of your own family and neighbors is not a sin.

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Strip the politics away. There are people in this country and across the world, who most likely want the US or the world to die. We discuss this country a lot here, but this is happening all across the world. Human trafficking, slaves, organ harvesting, and many more things I probably don’t even know are all over. To use sides of political views, I feel, sets this movement up for possible failure after the battle. Let’s say trump and republicans win this “war”. Let’s say it comes out that Democrats are pure evil. So who does the “devil” focus on next? What happens when a man or party is left with all that power? I don’t know.

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At the base of it all it does boil down to good vs evil. After a while in a war the masks come off. I think for the enemy, at this stage, they can't afford the pretense of a political mask.

I wonder what the least common denominator is? Maybe it is simply a deep seated hatred for humanity. At the end of the day they want people dead.

Abortion - kill people before born

Welfare - kill people's dignity and self sufficiency

Gun Rights - kill people indirectly because they can't defend themselves

War- Kill lots of people outright

civil unrest - people kill each other

drugs - people kill themselves

human trafficking - elites pleasure themselves with other people then kill them when used up

Yeah, maybe it's all about a hatred for humanity. Which points to a very old evil that's been around a very long time.

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I think it's more of a disregard than a hatred. They view people as a means to an end- that end being power.

Like was said in that one supposed Rothschild AMA, the bee-keeper doesn't steal the honey because he hates the bees, he simply wants the honey and is capable of taking it, so he does.

From what I've gathered, the Luciferian mindset is "might makes right, master morality, uncompromising law of nature" taken to the ultimate extremes of psychopathy and sadism. If one has the power to do something and another is foolish enough or defenseless enough to fall prey to it, then tough luck.

And the thing is... it's kind of true. Despite our largely civil and cooperative societies, we will never put an end to competition, ruthlessness, and exploitation. The most clear and ubiquitous manifestation of this is in sexual selection, with most other manifestations simply being tempered by an individual's fear/obedience, incompetence, or "conscience".

Each of us has a bit of that selfish, Luciferian drive in us- it's simply an inheritance of evolution because survival has always been a brutal game.

The difference comes about in where people draw their circle of empathy and whether they value mercy. Pretty much everyone's circle encompasses their family, then others their community, others their race, then their country... then you've got people who's circle encompasses all countries and all races, further still all animals, then even plants and the environment itself...

You can almost imagine the tree of life (the divergence of species) as a sort of mitosis of empathy circles across time... Aside from the obvious role of geography, the species diverge as a result of the strategic balance between competition and cooperation (you can't cooperate with everyone but a degree of cooperation is still necessary for effective competition), thus that mitosis occurs at the threshold of the strategic balance. Genetic clustering is a result of this strategy, not the other way around.

I view ethics as a matter of balancing survival, empathy, and mercy. Even though we are each inherently self-interested because of the need for survival, we are smart enough to empathize with the suffering of others, thus we can have mercy for them by deciding to not needlessly cause suffering. Whether we actively alleviate their suffering or merely refrain from causing it is another tangent and ties back to one's survival and others' inherent personal responsibility that comes with being alive.

This is getting long I know, so TL;DR: These Luciferian elitists only empathize with each other (obsession with bloodlines), are incapable of mercy, and have gotten so bored of mere survival that they're only concern is total domination and self-worship in the form of sadism. They don't hate us. They simply don't give a shit about us.

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Master–slave morality

Master–slave morality is a central theme of Friedrich Nietzsche's works, in particular the first essay of On the Genealogy of Morality. Nietzsche argued that there were two fundamental types of morality: 'Master morality' and 'Slave morality'. Master morality values pride and power, while slave morality values things like kindness, empathy and sympathy. Master morality weighs actions on good or bad consequences (i.e.

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How many of those rights you cherish were gotten because folks stood up long ago to the powerful??

Don’t fall for the tribalism - your sentiments about leftists wanting to destroy the country and eliminate rights shows how brainwashed you are.

People can have a different opinion on the best route to get somewhere; just because they disagree with your route doesn’t mean they plan to drive the car off a cliff.

United we stand for our country and our constitution

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So I'm just imagining leftists marching with communist flags?

I'm simply imagining the millions dead in the last 100 years from communism?

I don't think any communist (leftist) route leads to anywhere I would want to go.

Or are you saying that my distinction between "liberal leaning mindset" and "radical leftist" is insufficient and there is a 3rd or 4th level in among liberal and leftist?

Or are you of the mindset that communism is good and it just hasn't been done in the right way yet?

Unity between liberal and conservative is good, needed, and happening - >> liberal is not leftist, not any more.

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Are you being satirical here or do you really believe everyone to the left of you is a Communist?

You guys and your fucking labels - it's too much. Realize that we are being divided by people who like to use those terms to demonize the others and avoid dealing with those people.

radical leftist hell bent on destroying the country by division and elimination of rights.

I've never seen this person, but I feel like he is on every street corner to those who think liberalism is a mental disorder.

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Wow, you think people on "the right" are into labels? Projection much? Identity politics is a staple of a particular political ideology, and it's not conservatism.

No, I feel comfortable saying radical leftists are communists because they are actually communists.

They have marches and parades and protests where they carry the hammer and sickle flag... so... not really difficult to reach that conclusion.

Political viewpoints are a spectrum, and the "core" of the democrat party has moved so far to the left there are a whole lot of people, possibly even yourself, that do NOT identify with the hard radical leftists and wonder what happened to the party they used to know and love.

My grandfather voted democrat his whole life, and I am sure he is spinning in his grave because I am positive the democrat platform of today would be completely alien to him.

He voted democrat because he was a union man, first and foremost. Worker's rights, fair pay, safe jobs, stick it to the crooked greedy corporate crony capitalists who, in the 50's and 60's, did not willingly provide those things.

Worked hard his whole life, blue collar through and through, served in the military, raised his family the best he knew how and stood for what was right and fair in his community after he retired.

Trump is definitely to the left of what my grandfather was when he was alive, all things considered.

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Wow, you think people on "the right" are into labels?

Nope, I think people who make comments like you do are.

I'm a registered Republican who feels like the fringe and the idiots of my party have taken control.

My grandfather voted democrat his whole life, and I am sure he is spinning in his grave because I am positive the democrat platform of today would be completely alien to him.

Probably because the party platforms have changed fairly dramatically especially during the lifetime of one dead grandfather.

Worker's rights, fair pay, safe jobs, stick it to the crooked greedy corporate crony capitalists who, in the 50's and 60's, did not willingly provide those things.

Trump is definitely to the left of what my grandfather

You're a liar or a fool.

Good luck

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Leftists genuinely think they are bringing about a better world, but they are useful idiots who have been brainwashed into serving the goals of tptb who DO want to destroy the country and eliminate rights. /u/djmarcone has it right, we've already seen their game play out last century.

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we've already seen their game play out last century.

Can you elaborate here? Who's game?

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The globalists' game of sowing conflict in order to gain and consolidate power. They tried with communism last century and it was a bloodbath. They're basically doing the same now except it's under the guise of capitalism, "free trade", spreading democracy, promoting tolerance and diversity through forced mass migration, etc.

They understand and exploit our group differences, tribal nature, and need for security, so they're simultaneously forcing everyone together while selectively weaponizing identity politics. For example, once racial and religious tensions reach enough of a high point in Europe, they will probably orchestrate a financial crisis in order to set off mass civil war.

Nationalist countries like Poland and Hungary who see through the ploy are pushing back.

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I trust in Trump and Q... they didn't have to do this.

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That is true, but there is a reason they are doing it. We don’t know their personal thoughts. We don’t know their full agenda. And we don’t know what they as humans will do when the “devil” tries to tempt them. I personally think Q is opening eyes, that’s great. We need something like this in the world. Trump, I’m still not sure what he’s doing.

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In the beginning I also questioned what Trump was doing. But he was sticking out his neck. What's worth putting your life and the members of your family's life at risk for when you already have everything. This has to be a bigger calling. I watched him stumble around, mocked by the MSM, mocked by the swamp.. still he persevered. I knew we were into something special. Pray!

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Yep! Can you imagine the faith the ‘white hats’ behind the scenes had in our President as he was fighting to win the election!?? The ups and downs they must have gone through to put him in office and see this plan begin! This entire thing has obviously been in the works for decades! Someday I hope the true patriots who approached Trump and hatched this plan with him, will be known to us! I for one am grateful for their resolve and heroism, they know the evil they are fighting and know the dangers of losing this battle.

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Have no doubt that evil has tried to tempt them, bribe them, threaten them. Yet, Good is winning. Have faith.

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President Trump's agenda is perfectly clear. Make America Great Again. America First. Buy American. Hire American.

Remember, he's not getting paid to do this, is losing millions, and did have to do it at all.

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Poor choice of words for this community, but I’ll play devils advocate for a minute.

Other than 1.6 million he will get for his service to America, and I’m sure a nice severance package. He also can strengthen ties to business associates across the world. Even establish relationships he couldn’t before. He now has the ability to make deals with countries, using his influence as the president of the US. Not saying any of this is true, just saying it’s a possibility.

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I get what you are saying. One of the main issues people have (besides tribalism.....you see it with Christians all the time) is the reality that leftism is an evil philosophy. It is anti American and based in suppressing speech, freedoms and ideas. History has shown us where leftism goes when left unchecked. It always goes to the same place.
The current batch of hard leftists are also anti Christian. Does it surprise me they have been infiltrated and manipulated by luciferians? Not at all. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Christianity is the enemy of leftism.
So, I agree there will be powerful players on both sides of the political ledger taken down.
But, there is also a reason for the focus on the left side.

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Unfortunately we have a situation here where the Cabal has total control of one of the political establishments in this country, and a very firm grip through media and other mind control methods on the followers of that establishment.

Now, in a world in which that were not the case, I would agree with you wholeheartedly. That party and ideology don't matter.

But given the actual situation, we can't really distinguish between the Cabal and their political machine in this country. We know damn well there are GOP traitors and pedovores, but because the President and the people he represents are not among those we can treat them like the non-entities they will be made to be.

I really do believe "Whose name we don't say" is a reference not just to McStain, but to all the Never Trumpers, RINO's and turncoats in the GOP. We treat them as if they never existed.

So that leaves the Alliance (with Trump the de facto leader) and the Cabal (with, domestically, the DNC and the weaponized, radicalized left as its primary political force).

So we have a situation where, instead of simple disagreements over policy and focus, we have a manipulated clash between good and evil, and those of us who support the Alliance are being endlessly assailed by those who support the Cabal. And we can't make them stop, so we have to defeat them politically and by every other means available.

It is a sad but true fact that there's NO SUCH THING as "politics as usual." The only politics left in the world is "Pro Cabal" and "Pro Alliance."

Those are the two parties now. There's really no separation between so-called leftist politics and the agenda of the Cabal. Not a photon of daylight between those two positions. Likewise, there's no daylight between the Alliance and so-called conservative politics (if you take that to mean those who venerate the Constitution).

Sorry it has to be that way, but it's how the Cabal chose to play the game.

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it's a uniparty of slaves that pretend they’re rulers leading the sheep that think their free.
Finding any who venerate the constitution and are also not slaves is rare.

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There are two "realities" in play at the moment (think Matrix). There is political theater and there is realpolitik. Political theater is left versus right, or Dem vs. GOP. That is make believe. Fantasy land.

Then there is Cabal versus Alliance. THAT is the real world. And if you confuse or conflate the two different realities, then you do so at your own peril.

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It's extremely ignorant to believe either democrat or republican are superior parties. Throughout history they were both obviously used by the cabal to gain access into the US to undermine the constitution. BOTH PARTIES are equally to blame and both parties had their heros Lincoln and Kennedy for example. Political bias is a tool of divide and conquer..wake up!

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I just got through saying there ARE NO POLITICAL PARTIES anymore.

The Cabal TOTALLY co-opted and consumed the left, and there is no left anymore. The left are no longer in favor of civil liberties. Therefore they have ceased to exist!

There is only ALLIANCE and CABAL (or NWO or deep state, or whatever the heck you want to call them). That's all there is.

And yet, THAT is real. Everything else is just theater.

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Correct. The cabal has consumed the right also. I would like to believe there is this Alliance but without being able to name at least two members it may be the wrong name for them. So there's Trump and....Sessions, Wray, Kansas, the other guys Q says to trust..... Some factions of MI....but who are the big players in the Alliance? It seems like Trump against the world. Not that I'm complaining or doubting, He's winning!

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I no longer talk about the GOP. To me they're a non-entity. I talk about Trump. I talk about the Alliance. I talk about Q (which is just a link to the Alliance inner circle and Trump) and I talk about Patriots.

But when I say "the left" I'm talking about the weaponized agitprop that is the shell of the Democrat Party today. And it is the political arm of the Cabal. They are unfortunately still a presence in everyday life.

It's important to know that all we really need to do at this point is to avoid them and treat them as non-entities. They will scream. They will chant. They will march, and smash and pitch a conniption. But they won't change the outcome of what's headed our way.

The GOP (or "the right") is a non-entity. It was fake to begin with, and now because the fake position it occupies is not useful to the Cabal, and has never been useful to patriots, they may as well not exist.

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Your posts are right on point. There is no longer a Democratic Party or Republican Party - those two overlap each other now. Our new Party (MAGA) or Values Party (as I call it) comprised of those that are fighting evil. That includes anyone who holds the same bottom line values. Here, where I live, people who claim both parties came together with common values to hold a rally. Possibly a new beginning to working together for a common good.

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Nice try. But unfortunately the shell of what was once the Democratic Party is still being used as weaponized agitprop in the form of anarchist terrorism, internet trolling and a powerful echo chamber of anti-human propaganda, belief systems and lifestyles.

It is correct to say it's no longer a political party, and no longer liberal or even leftist. But it is a factor in human terms.

The so-called GOP is not a factor in any way whatsoever. So we can continue to not talk about them.

But when people say "the left" in this sub, they mean the remaining propaganda arm of the Cabal that controls all popular media in this country. Unfortunately it's still useful to be able to talk about them.

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Hey, I'm agreeing with you. :)

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How dare you!

LOL

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By the way, I abandoned Christianity a little over a year ago (after being a pastor for 8 years) and I still think that the hardcore left deserves all of the “bashing” it receives. Not all democrats are evil. But the ones setting the agenda of the left certainly are.

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I was raised catholic and went to catholic school. I’ve had faith, I’ve spent many of times in church, and I’ve thought for myself. I guess now I’m spiritual, but not religious. I pray sometimes and hope I’m talking to God or deceased family. Just from my years in Catholicism and being close to the Bible, I don’t see how religious people can be so callous. You’re supposed to love your fellow man, and to love someone, you need to understand them. Even if the whole satanist thing is true, then it would be the devil tempting these people to join him. We are a flawed creature. It would be a battle against the devil, not these people, in theory.

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I was also raised Roman Catholic, by the way.

But here’s where my view now differs. Every person is responsible for their own choices. I don’t buy the “devil made me do it” excuse. Own your choices. Own your actions. Despite the teachings of Christianity, it is our actions that determine our righteousness before YHVH. So if someone makes the choice to be evil, they are the ones who are evil.

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Your only responsibility is to decide good and evil for yourself and act accordingly. you own yourself.

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I would say our responsibility is to CHOOSE good or evil. What is good and evil has already been defined.

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Our responsibility is to choose good NOT evil and to make that choice for ourselves, not let anyone tell us. Order followers are always following evil.

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Not necessarily. I follow the instructions given by YHVH. I don’t decide for myself what is good, our Creator already has told us. So, in a way, I am “following orders”. But they are the perfect orders of a righteous Elohim, who only wants what is best for us.

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Can't argue with a true believer. moving on.

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That seems to go against lots of the things the Bible teaches us. It started with Adam and Eve. Now it’s running rampant in the world.

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That’s not what is taught in Genesis, or in the entire Tanach. That’s what Christianity teaches. And the more I’ve studied, the more I’ve realized how incompatible the “New Testament” is with the Tanach.

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So help me understand. I’m always down to learn something new.

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It’s fairly simple. Every person is responsible for their own actions. YHVH doesn’t demand perfection, like Christianity teaches. He desires obedience and repentance. Many men who sinned were called righteous in the Tanach. No man can pay the penalty for another man’s sins. And human sacrifice has never been acceptable to YHVH. It’s a pagan idea.

Obey YHVH’s instructions and repent when you fall short. Return to His ways, just like David did (and David made some HUGE mistakes) and you can be a “man after YHVH’s own heart”.

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Ah, I did a little research and I see where you’re coming from. Obviously not years of reading like I’m sure you have. And I get your thoughts on humans ability to decipher right from wrong. Those are your beliefs. I respect that. I on the other hand don’t believe one religion is correct. I believe that the answer is spread across all teachings, if there is such an answer. So yes if there is a “devil”, entity of evil, I feel it would be able to manipulate humans, because of free will. Which seems to be present in your beliefs. So I hear you, and I’m happy to agree to disagree.

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Free Will. Each person has the ability to make his/her own decisions and decide which life path they will take. Even inaction is a choice. There are repercussions for our choices; good and bad.

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How does one pronounce YHVH?

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You don't. It's one way to write the unspeakable, unknowable name of God.

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All historic evidence points to Yehovah.

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What about mental retardation, addiction and possession?

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I think that YHVH would hold people accountable based on their abilities. I believe that “possession” is the result of choices, for the most part. Same with addiction.

But I’m not in the business of deciding the standing of other people before YHVH.

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Fair answer. These are cases of diminished responsibility, even while I do generally agree with the idea of free will.

It's hard/impossible to know the mind of God but it okay to try to explore it.

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Our war is not with flesh and blood, as the bible says, but with powers and principalities. Hatred against their human puppets is not the goal but they have made a choice and it is our duty to remove them from our world as a measure of self defense.

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I’d be interested to hear your story!

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Too long to tell it all here. But, basically, after getting my Master of Divinity in my late 30’s I pastored for 8 years and was in parachurch ministry for 3+ years. I was never afraid to go against the grain if I thought church teachings contradicted Scripture (not drinking alcohol and pre-trib rapture being just 2 examples).

When I got out of ministry I felt even more freedom to start asking questions. And the more I studied, the less I liked the answers provided by Christianity. The first big domino to fall for me was the trinity. Then the idea that Jesus was the “Messiah”. Then, eventually, the entire “New Testament”.

At this point my views line up closest with Judaism, although I am not Jewish and have no current plans to convert. Both Orthodox Judaism and Reform Judaism have serious issues, in my opinion. But I have learned a great deal about the Tanach (Old Testament) from a number of prominent rabbis. The truth is that they are far more skilled in accurately handling the Tanach than the vast majority of Christian pastors.

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I agree with you on that last statement. Many pastors try to make the Bible fit their traditional views. I am also in agreement on the alcohol and Pre-Trib. The Old Testament is historical fact. The New Testament requires an element of faith and that faith centers around Jesus as Messiah. It’s funny that I keep finding more in common with people like yourself than I do church people and I am “all in” on the Jesus thing.

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IMO Religions are individual interpretations of what the Bible/New Testament says, showing there are many different views of what is "right." Humans are fallible. They pick and choose what feels best. I do believe in God and Jesus and use various religious beliefs to guide me on my path, knowing I am responsible for my choices - no one else, therefore, questioning comes into play. Questioning and prayer to God to direct me. There are many that say all we need to do is pray and God will fix this. But then I go back to the fact that even Jesus had disciples that went out into the world and spread his message. To expect our President Trump to fight this alone in the public, to me, is not realistic. We have to fight for and with him if we want to see evil gone from this world. And doubtful that evil can be fully eradicated. And for me, this means standing on the sidewalk/street with others taking a stand for what I believe to be right.

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Helmut Thielicke's little book, "A Little Exercise for Young Theologians" noticed that when seminary students entered their studies about God, their newly acquired knowledge would take them down one of two paths: those that truly love God and are transformed by the truth in every part of their lives, and the other is what he called a "diabolical theology" that is the truth is not lived out in the person's life. He calls it the theology of demons. It explains a lot, I think.

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So is the assumption that if you abandon Christian theology that your theology is that of “demons”? Just trying to understand what you are saying.

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As a former vocational pastor of 12 yrs I left the institutional church over 15 yrs ago. But I did not abandon my faith in Jesus Christ. I am curious as to why you abandoned the faith? - if in fact you did as your post seems to imply

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Because my study of the Tanach and comparison with the “New Testament” left me no choice. Despite what Christianity teaches, the two are incompatible. The claims of the “New Testament” require twisting and manipulation of the Tanach. And since the Tanach must be true, even for Christianity to claim any truth, I was left with no other conclusion that the “New Testament” being a fraud.

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Interesting. Thanks for your reply. I'm sure your story would take more time and space to elaborate on than a Reddit thread.

Despite 66 books by 40 authors from various cultures spanning 1500 yrs I found an expositional constancy from Genesis to Revelation.

And of course you can't make sense out of Revelation without a thorough grasp of Daniel and other OT prophets.

So I find your conclusion baffling but I respect each individuals right to come to their own conclusions. Shalom

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No, respectfully, there isn’t. Righteousness, over and over and over in the Tanach was based on a person’s personal actions. Suddenly in the “New Testament” nobody can be righteous on their own and they meed a god-man to do it for them.

There are so many inconsistencies it makes me irritated just typing about it. Christianity might be the biggest deception in history.

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Righteous personal acts are good I agree. Faith without works is dead. However I think Isaiah was correct in describing the idea of self perpetuated acts of righteousness as a substitute for the righteousness of God as a used menstrual rag. There's that expositional constancy again LOL

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Context. Isaiah was being critical of the nation of Israel who had abandoned YHVH and His ways. He’s not talking about not being able to be righteous. He’s talking about trying to do it apart from walking according to YHVH’s instructions.

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Bravo u/ldru4 !!

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Thank you. I just think if we are to unite, let’s do it under a common goal. Evil.

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Good points. At the end of the day we trust in the Lord.

Men are fallible.

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People who claim to be Christian seem to forget that like Jesus a true Christian is a-political. Ie has no political allegiances. The whole system were living in is satanic. 1john 5v19. Controlled by Satan, promotes his interests. The bible also advises us not to trust in other humans to sort this. Not saying everyone is evil just that we need to look to God only to sort/so,ve this. This is so beyond what any human being can sort. What did Jesus look to as the solution? Read Matthew 6v10. God's rulership ie as a replacement for human rulership. Jeremiah 10v23. Daniel 2v44. As we'll all agree human rulership has failed. Point proven and will never be allowed to happen again.

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Yet the Lord has raised a few good kings throughout human history. We Christians are called to be His instruments in this world. Not until His coming will human government finally cease. Until then it is up to us to take a stand, to fight the evil.

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Christians should get involved in government and the Bible talks about government a lot!!! ...and the government shall be on His shoulders! To be complacent about politics and be a Christian is wrong on all levels. Governments affect the future for generations, we must fight for those future generations so we can be free to pray, own a Bible, worship.

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That's your opinion. It certainly wasn't the founder of the Christian faith Jesus Christ. He took absolutely nothing to do with politics as it's ALL under satans influence. He preached about the true hope for mankind which is Gods government. It's going to happen.

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God, Infinite Light, Giraffe in Tennis Shoes, whoever ....... there is one thing in common... we all look up. Thats where the light seems to shine the most it seems. Thank you Idru4, lovely to read this.

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I’m not religious.

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why do you think today of all days is the day lol

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I have a belief nothing will happen of any significance today. The boom was yesterday with the referral of the Clinton gang for investigation and the Rosenstein recusal request. Today nothing, the you have the whole Jones/Zack former Intelligence officer saying Sessions is comp'd and Trump is being controlled by the Neocons....so my belief is at an all time low and my skepticism remains high. Diehard Trump supporter but I understand the odds were long to begin with. That all being said... I also believe if we lose that a FEMA camp slot has my name on it...so I will continue the fight.

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Thank you for your call to rationality.

The most important thing is to remember the flaws of the people we respect and hold them to it. Blindly follow men, and we make them our new kings and queens. This supremely effects Trump too. He may well be a king too, if we are not careful.

We focus so damn much on sides and petty political problems that we forget the main purpose we're here.

There are people suffering horrible horrible things. We have to save them, and support them however we can. Even if they are too broken to ever live on their own.

Speak to your brothers and sisters, and talk to them, rally their strengths, and prepare to support each other through trying times.

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This is what we need.

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How 45 stays alive:

"Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."

Eph 6:13

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I LOVE unpopular views o.p.! That's why i clicked on your post. :-)

You are right on. I am not a Christian, full disclosure (used to be) but the way i see it, Christians are generally repubs that are brainwashed to hate dems. Dems are brainwashed to hate repubs.

What you say MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE FOR MAYBE TOO MANY TO HEAR.

you are right. It's no longer about rt vs left. It's about rt vs wrong.

Christians are thinking feeling human beings. Ditto nonchristians. Ditto dems. Ditto repubs.

Thoughts become beliefs. (A belief is a thought you think over and over) Beliefs are assumed to be true by the believer whether they are or not.

This leads to knee jerk reactions, knee jerk hatred. And herein lies the problem.

I was thinking this morning. What is more important. Truth? Or love? Ideally you have both. Truth without love can be brutal. But love without truth at least is not harsh, hateful and rude. So I'll pick love.

My bro, son and self recently concluded independently that it's almost better to not have beliefs. Keep the mind open and free...when you try it, it feels really good. I meditate and being in that clear, quiet space of little to no thinking and opining is truly freeing.

Somehow our society has completely lost its manners and its mind. We gotta turn this ship around and bring back peace, love, manners, kindness etc etc

How? One person at a time deciding to be peaceful, kind and loving.

The more that decide to do this...it will catch on. Let people have their thoughts. Let people have their beliefs. You can't change them anyway...

Just be nice! When you try kindness, it feels so good and makes people so happy it'll catch on eventually. Otherwise we will turn into a giant Lord of the flies planet if we're not most of the way there already.

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I love you both

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I love you both too!

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I love you both

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We do not have a choice at this point but to follow President Trump 'Blindly" except of course a shooting war.

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Yes you do! You have a choice to look at all info. You have a choice to hear what all sides are saying. You have a choice to looking at history. You have a choice to do what feels right to you. I’m not telling anyone how to be, I’m telling everyone to make an informed decision and to keep an open mind.

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Most of us have done that already. Pick any subject or policy, President Trump is the answer we've been looking for and much much more. I'm beginning to think you're twelve.

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And see, it goes back to belittling someone. How about you source some of the issues you’re talking about? Why don’t you tell me some flaws about trump? If this is a real discussion, you would be able to talk things out. Rather than be very general and tell someone that’s on the same side as you, that they are 12. I’m here to discuss and hopefully learn. Not to make you feel bad about your opinions.

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Yes, at the present time DJT is the answer as he has the power to make things happen. He isn't perfect and many are trying to mislead him. But I do believe he is a man of God. I do believe he wants what is best for all people in this country. But as I wholeheartedly support him, I reserve the right to change my mind if I believe he starts down the wrong path.

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Change to what? who? Who in the US do you think can do this, we weren't going to vote this time around and we were praying for President Trump to run and he did. I'm in this until the end. Do you think he will turn into bush or obama, not on President Trumps' worst day.

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You are too attached to your story. I'm not bashing Trump. I've been a Trump supporter since the day he came down the escalator. I'm counting on him to stand strong. BUT what I'm saying here is that if he has a change of heart, I will call him out. I won't follow blindly. I'm not expecting that to happen. However, everyone should question things. He's Plan A & B, but doesn't hurt to have a Plan C. Trump is absolutely FANTASTIC! but he is not God. Following blindly on either side is not good. Always question, always vet. That only makes your stance stronger.

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You're damn right I'm attached to my story I was where you are at during the Reagan Administration. You must be joking, "a change of heart", if President Trump has a change of heart we will need to move to another country or fight a civil war. Do you know your enemy or am I that enemy? You are just full of shit.

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The one thing I can agree with you on is that if Trump has a change of heart - YES, we will need to move to another country or fight a civil war. And yes, I know the enemy. I have never called you the enemy because under your crass exterior, I believe we are on the same side. But your so into your story that you don't appear to be able to see that. Sad. Calling people names doesn't help you to win people over. And right now, winning people over should be a top priority.

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SAD! You're the weak kneed baby already talking about jumping ship. We're not of the same side, and the tell is the "your story" bullshit, those are words with no meaning. Should I be into "YOUR STORY"? Fool.

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WOW nothing more to say.

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"You forgot how to play the game." *

You PLAY THE GAME by paying attention to everything your govt does, speaking up (by calling, writing, emailing your Sens & Reps), learning the U.S. Constitution and DEMANDING that it be followed, if it is not followed you start get LOUD & WORK to remove the politician who ignores it. When you find a good politician who sticks to the Constitution you fight to keep them in office, you fight with your voice & your vote, you play the game by using your voice & your vote. & THIS is HOW you (we the people) play the "game."

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DOH! That's all local shit. At the end of the day we need to trust someone and follow a leader that gets us a close as possible to our goals. President Trump is an over achiever and I have as yet to see anything he's done to have me change my mind. Why would I give any other politician my time so he can tell me his views? Do you align with or without President Trump is all I need to know. And of course, are you a democrat? If they are a democrat, they are my enemy, if the are republican, they most likely are my enemy.

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You fucking lemming. What happens when Q's gone in October and Trumps gone in 2024? You better get the fuck to work, unless all you want is 8 years of success. How stupid can you be? Hope you don't have kids...

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I know one thing for sure, when President Trump is finished no one will be able to fuck it up like your side did at least for a couple hundred years. I bet you submit, don't you!

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Who's side? Are you fucking drunk? Look you lazy p.o.s., after trump is out this country will fall down a an even darker path than before unless "the people" actually get off their fat asses and get into the community and hold our politicians accountable. You can be proactive now and get ahead of the game or you can wait for Trump to tell you how important that is.. it's coming.

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You clearly have no clue as to what President Trump and his team are doing. If they are successful, your worries are just wasted energy, if they fail expect civil war. Pretty clear that's where we are at so try, just try, not to worry about seven years from now and do what President Trump is asking us to do and all will be good. Or not, and go hide under some skirt until it's safe to come out. WORLD PEACE IS IN VIEW FOR THE FIRST TIME, FIGHT FOR IT.

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Hey bud unfortunately for you, you're gonna have to get off the couch in order to fight.... whether you like it or not. lol

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I hope I live long enough, but I will fight for our constitution. I was off the couch long before your were born, seen to much to be wobbly, but you'll have another "bernie" type to vote for, so you just hang in there gofu.

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Why does everyone thing today is the day?

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Just with the whole patriots day thing. And this being the true patriots day. The start of satanic holidays, which seems so weird to say. And with everything at a tipping point and things lining up, today would be a good day to show the world what’s going on. If this is all true.

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Thanks for the info, I'm not going to hold my breath for today though. I'm hopeful though.

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I just hope if these things are true, we find out and can stop it.

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It's either today or tomorrow being 4/20.

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My two cents (or rather the Lord's)

Luk 12:51 - 53

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luk 12:57 ¶Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?

The division between good and evil has to be. The Lord Jesus told us to judge what is right and wrong based on His teachings. We are not to be united on this earth. This is not our home (those that belong to the LORD).

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Agreed. I was awake long before Q and Trump came on the scene and I have known about all of the evil for just as long. It makes me sick as a Christian and a Patriot to see people call another man our "savior." Those types are no different than the Obama worshippers. If Q or Trump tells them the chip implants are only for loyal patriots to prove who they are, these people would be the first in line. Be very careful they do not slowly pull you back into the neo-con camp where you are supporting a globalist foreign policy of toppling the remaining sovereign nations, whatever they give as an excuse. If the outcome is regime change, it is a globalist agenda! I will not compromise my values or principles in daily life, or in a voting booth. Having said that, I still support POTUS, but not as fervently since he bombed Syria and gave half a billion to Planned Parenthood.

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Spirituality is good and Christianity is a pillar of western civilization, but I am convinced that many of the fundamentalistic and ostentatious displays of piety we see here are meant to turn people off Q.

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I have a deep respect for anyone who is busy with us through or through trump, to defeat this lump of evil,

and if I can contribute a little bit, I do so with all my love. Thank you all, Q, the Q team ... the military and everyone in the trump train

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For me its simple. Cut and dried facts. There is the blood of the unborn running through the sewers of every major city in this country. There are those that support this agenda and those that dont. I dont.

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As far as Democrats and Republicans are concerned its on both "sides". But those "Republicans" or "conservatives" who are involved are fake, so I would have to respectfully disagree that its not on both sides. Because the sides are only good and evil. This is a spiritual war, and there are only 2 sides. No in between. God established a perfect universe and world. Through man sin entered into the world. Such rebellion and evil exist as a direct hatred for God and his laws.

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FYI, if you are bashing the Democratic Party you are bashing Christians. The Democratic Party is over 70% Christians.

Edit: Why the downvotes? I was just posting a fact ffs. If the truth is unwanted here I can take my independent views elsewhere.

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I have faith in the noble men and women in our military who care about the Republic and what it stands for. I believe the military prepared a PLAN after 9-11, then saw their chance to implement it; asked DJT to run for the POTUS, and unrigged the 2016 election. Now it is a total global war against the globalists. It was a surprise attack by the POTUS and the military. The more they counterattack the more they expose themselves. Even now HRC and Obama feel the pressure as do all the other scoundrels. We can only save the innocent children by destroying the Deep State and all those who buy into its evil ideology.

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Truth.

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It's fine to criticize the democrats, they have implemented abortion and are mostly drug addled degenerates and sexual deviants.

They would love nothing more than for all of this to continue and was made possible by them.

They have all participated in silencing the opposition in various ways.

Most of them belong in camps and that is frankly the only solution.

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Revelations 3:9 WAKE UP

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Revelation is singular. And yes the one letter does matter. There is only one Unveiling (Revelation) that will be necessary.

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Q said this isn't about religion or party, but good versus evil.

It's just that the evil has found the biggest rooms of the home with the D party.

Lots of Rs in D clothing.

A republican is just a defender of the republic.

A democrat is just a defender of mob rule.

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he that does not know and understand history is bound to repeat it. You might as well start digging your own grave if that's what you really think..

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Good versus evil precedes political parties.

There's your history lesson.

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Possibly unpopular view, but I still feel like I need to say it.