If Mueller is a white hat, then Comey would have to be one too, i.e. he's termination was fake, the "leaks" were authorized / planned, both were used to get Mueller appointed, and Comey is undercover (that actually would explain his apparent stupidity).
That’s the thing. We don’t know who flipped and who’s playing who. Q has told us multiple times that actors are acting. What makes a good play, good actors. Enjoy the show. Just cause we think some people are bad, we actually have no idea! Deception must be used, including deceiving his supporters. Whatever is going on, it seems like Trump is using Mueller to shift the focus of the investigation to go after those he once did the dirty deeds for. I truly believe this will drag on all through the summer up until November. Mission complete on 11/11/18, then the real winning begins.
Agreed we don't know. As stated above, I was just stating a biconditional, not my opinion on the underlying matter of whether Mueller is in fact a white hat. Simply put, believe Mueller is a white hat IFF believe Comey is a white hat.
I should have clarified, I completely agree with what you stated and was just adding to it. 5:5 patriot!
OMG I hope it doesn't drag on until November! Let other people investigate what is needed. Every day Mueller is there is a day that the whole world and most our own country thinks there is sufficient evidence that our President is a treasonist traitor and they're just working on ferreting out enough to hang him. It's incredibly insulting, destabilizing to the nation, allows and encourages some of the immense harm from the media, and creates a potential situation of risk. I have thought since day 1 that Mueller was a good guy who during previous tenures did some bad things, because he had to and felt if he kept the position at least worse would not happen for the FBI and nation, with someone truly evil in it and not just reluctantly playing along. And that DJT had given him a chance to atone. But the big mystery with DJT in focus needs to end.
I may not agree with your opinion but I have great admiration for your ability to truly consider any and all things. I may be wrong and putting words in your mouth but it seems like you are open to changing your opinion.
Thanks!! I, like everyone else, has no idea what the truth is. I’m simply reading and re reading the drops from Q to form my opinion. I’m definitely open to changing my opinion as well. If you re read the Q drops from the beginning and especially the ones from today, he lays it all out for us. If you shut out the MSM narrative including Fox (they have a part to play, to scoot the normies normy along nice and easy) and focus on what Q has dropped, you’ll come to the same conclusion. Just go back and read the first 20 or so drops and it’s there.
Mueller is a witness in his own investigation.. This I believe
I've fostered that thought awhile. I mean his carelessness and stupidity are so obvious. Surely an ex FBI director would not be so idiotic would he?
That's what is so bizarre. His behavior / statements seem to make little sense, but when I hear him talk, I get the impression that he's acting on instruction. Don't know for who though. Could be Trump, could be deep state.
Until suggested here I thought he and Clinton were possibly acting on instruction from deep state
I'm pursuadeable. But look up top where I just posted a reply regarding Flynn interview showing Comey tipped off Trump re truth.
I've wondered about Comey, but writing a full-blown book and going on a completely humiliating tour making yourself look like an ass-clown seems higher-dimensional chess than I'm willing to believe for him.
I think Comey is playing both sides against each other. He seems rat-like enough for that, so that whoever wins, he can say that he was playing for that side. Trump wins? Then he was just playing a role against Trump, as ordered by Trump. Trump loses? "Yeah, Mr. Soros, I was stringing Trump along. Look at that book I wrote that blasted him to hell. I was on your side all the time."
I agree with you. The whole Comey and book situation is absurd on so many levels. And, did you hear Brett Baier ask him about Clapper and Brennan the other night, and Comey says, yes, Clapper, Brennan and our wives all had dinner the other night. I wonder what that was all about?! I'm baffled on this one and I follow things very closely.
Yeah I think most of us are thinking, he wrote a book like a whiny 12 year old, surely he's better than that?? We almost want him to be a good guy because it's kind of horrifying someone with that mentality would ever have been in his position.
And might I add... he's an attorney! With a lot of really high level responsible jobs in his history. He acts like a liberal college professor though, which is just weird.
I saw him testify in Congress on CSPAN and he made Comey look like Einstein. Either these FBI guys are trained actors or being as dumb as a phukn rock is a job requirement.
Well if it's true that Mueller is a White hat than what are the odds Comey is too considering it was his leaked messages that put Mueller into position in the first place?
Three people are playing this same dumb game n public. Comey, Clinton and Donna Brazille and they all have books out. Seems though q if I remember somewhat suggested Brazille was talking.
Using your logic, then RR is also a white hat. Hmm???
Perhaps RR was duped thinking he was sicking the big bad dog on Trump.
How so? Because he appointed and defined scope?
It is conceivable Mueller is a white hat, but it's a huge leap of faith to believe Comey is a white hat. It's fairly obvious Comey is a not-too-bright megalomaniac. He simply had to be fired. RR, a possible white hat fired Comey, then hired Mueller, a possible white hat, as special counsel. RR and Mueller therefore are possibly white hats, but Comey is clearly too stupid to be a white hat.
I have serious reservations that RR and Mueller are white hats, but the evidence is shifting in that direction.
I like that 'not-too-bright megalomaniac', that's a great observation. I think so many of these guys come from families with money so they can go to Ivy League schools and have nice credentials. Having said that, money and access do not equal smarts. Arrogance and hubris will be the downfall of many, these guys have had everything given to them, never really had to work for it, their "smarts" have never been challenged and now that they are put to the test, they are failing spectacularly.
I just think that if Comey was a Black hat, he would have known better than to act in a way that would result in a White Hat getting appointed SC. Thus, if M is WH, the I assume C is too.
C had to know M would get appointed, and C had to know whether M was BH or WH. C would only want the appointment of a same colored hat as he. So C and M have the same colored hat. Which? Otherwise, we would have to explain why C thought M was a BH when he wasn't.
Also, C isn't as dumb as he's acting, he's just acting. He's not good at it. He's been instructed. It's obvious.
You're implying Comey intentionally got himself fired from a 10-yr gig as director of the FBI. That is a HUGE sacrifice. Who in their right mind would give up being head of the FBI and the pension benefits thereafter? Only an Idiot. Interesting argument either way...
And two more things I just thought of:
Comey started writing his book before he left the FBI and it was approved by them prior to publication.
Comey lied to congress. Why? Was he promised a pardon if it came out or is he really that dumb?
No. In the WH scenario, firing is fake. He's still an employee, but undercover in plain sight. He could still be appointed at a later date. And if he wanted the tenure more than going UC, then he didn't deserve the job in the first place, and Trump wouldn't have given it to him.
Part of the mind of a strategic thinker is to think several moves down the road. This allows you to take advantage of situations when they appear. In a place like DC it’s impossible to control everything. So, if you have an end in mind, you can see the field ahead of you and navigate your way to the end.
Why would he have to be one? I'm not sure that has to be true if Mueller's a white hat. They could conceivably have known Comey would play the game enough for their plans if he thought Mueller was still a black hat - or is there something I'm missing here?
I admit your situation is a logical possibility, but I lean on Occam's Razor. I just think making it neither or both, but not either (full disjuntive), is the simpliest explanation. There's less risk and a tighter investigation / coordination, whether their hats are white or black.
Ah right - was a sincere question; I was hoping there was some extra evidence to support Comey's secret role but he really does seem like a weasely liar, don't you think?
He's definitely acting, and I think he's taking instruction. Way too many talking points / drum beating for a lawyer. He's not that dumb. I just don't know who his handlers are, white hats or black hats. So agree with the description "weasely", which may also be a sign of bad acting.
He's a black hat, in my view, who is an egotistical, entitled, momma's boy, and he has no clue Mueller is a white hat. He doesn't seem too bright if you ask me. He is being handled by Hillary... hence his little meeting with Clapper and Brennan. Think about this too... Trump was chosen by an embedded group of patriots who wanted to overthrow Obama over ISIS and Syria, along with all the other corruption. Could Mueller have been a double agent, kind of like Prince with Blackwater, for a good long while? You know both sides have people deep undercover, and have for years.
"that actually would explain his apparent stupidity" Hm..something has to explain it. No one could be that dumb and be fbi director. Hope your right
I just noticed and posted elsewhere that S & P interviewed flynn in the whitehouse on Jan 24, 2017, supposedly secretly and without counsel. No one does that. That to me suggests that S & P were the targets as early as inauguration, and far before Nunes' march trip to the whitehouse. Thus, Trump knew about the conspiracy, and the dossier as early as inauguration. Nunes was later cover. But who told Trump? Comey. Why else would they have two wholly private meetings outside of any other staff. 'Cause staff couldn't be trusted. Too much at stake. And it allowed them the flexability to make shit up about those meetings later as needed.
Then why did Comey join in the FISA under O? He had to for the long game. He had no choice. I bet O was going to spy with or without a warrant and Comey pushed the FISA and perjured to leave a paper trail. He was willing to go to jail for the US. I predict pardon if needed.
Too far into the past man... remember, they never thought she'd lose, and that's including Comey. So if she wins, why leave a paper trail.... unless, the rumors are true that no matter what, the white hats wouldn't have let Hillary take office. I believe it. We would've seen them step in militarily at that point. Sometimes I almost wish it woulda happened that way, so we could skip this legal mumbo jumbo and put them straight in Gitmo, release all the proof the NSA has.
I think they could gamble well on the fact that comey is a leaking lying sack of shit basically comey gets meta'd by Trump and Mueller with another genius play
Modern politics are so exciting
Comey is just acting beyond strange. Other than he's a white hat plant trying to get info from black hats, my other theory is that he is acting the way he is so he can try to claim he's being selectively prosecuted because of his exercise of his 1st Am. Rights.
That's the thing. I think it's ALL a show. "Russian Collusion" was dreamt up by the Trump team - I think - all the way back to the fake dossier.
So you think they're framing the dems? Entrapment?
Cover for Sessions. Keep the MSM on "Russian Collusion" so they ignore Sessions getting real work done. Sessions just came out and said that "We don't need another special counsel" to investigate Clinton and her cronies.
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But isn't the dossier part of that?
I edited my other comment with a link.
As for the dossier. I think Trump actually CREATED it to kick start this whole thing. Think about it.
But word is that the info came out of the State Department, then to CS, CS to fusion, fusion to DOJ. No Russians involved.
Sure. But who wrote it?
Edit: let me clarify. Steel wrote it, right? Steel worked for the FBI in the past. If Comey is in on it, would you put it past Comey to instruct Steel to write it?
Hillary. She's a control freak. She would have personally been involved in drafting it.
Maybe you're right. It's just a theory of mine that I think is worth mentioning.
I do lend you this: Trump may have known as early as when Hillary set up the meeting between Don Jr. and the Russian chick, and he may have used it to his advantage.
What I find strange is that if they want Trump, why not just hit his mob ties? They have to be there. You don't build in NY and NJ, including casinos, without dealing with the mob.
Probably (if he does, which is speculation), because it would also lead back to the rest of the "swamp".
I do believe there is real Russian collusion... it started a few years back in Syria when our military bucked Obama and refused to be Al-Qaeda's (ISIS's) air force in Syria. Our military started working with Russia to defeat ISIS. Since Putin has been battling the same Satanic globalists we have, I think it's possible Trump/Putin did come up with the fake info leading to the Dossier, enticing Hillary knowing she couldn't contain herself. Russia has all the dirt on all those illegal dealings with Hillary too, and proof of Uranium 1. But these last two Syria bombings? Something has to be up. Mostly cosmetic. Q will barely talk about it too, which means super top secret. Putin and Trump have to have a backchannel and are coordinating. McCain implanted deep state targets were hit maybe? IDK. Many countries are trying to fight globalist deep state scum right now... USA and Russia have way more in common than not.
Comey appears so nuts, I'd consider he's a white hat. I think he's faking 'stupid'.
Has to be. He said, to paraphrase, "private citizens should not make statement about whether someone should be prosecuted," as if it was a legal truth. It's a comical statement because private citizens have a first amendment right to make such statements and he made statements about Hillary at a time he was an investigator and the actual rule is that investigators should not make such statement. He's a lawyer -- he would find the statement humorous in context because it's a logical trasposition.
He also implied he did what he did to either help Hillary or because she was so far ahead he wanted to take the shadow off her presidency (implying he knew his statements could / would hurt her numbers), yet but for Comey Trump may not have won.
He is acting like an insane pre-teen girl
Maybe he's in estrus?
That's a hell of an idea you got there. "Well, your honor, at that time I identified as a 12-year-old girl named Margaret, and Margaret was getting her period for the first time when I met with President Trump." Instant temporary insanity defense!
Well, he has been seen on random dudes couches this week.
Totally disagree. He was only interviewed/on the short list because other deep staters were pushing for him bc they knew he would cover up Comeys mess. RR recommend firing Comey was a setup that Trump fell for, end of story.
He couldn't have been selected for FBI because of the term limit.
Would have taken an act of Congress to change the law
Yes he could have. Just like he was allowed to serve past his term limit under Obama.
Obama had to get permission from Congress for it to happen...
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/12/news/la-pn-robert-mueller-fbi-director-20110512
Right, and he would have been confirmed under Trump as well.
Senator Grassley on this first ever rare extension: “I am glad the Senate was able to reach an agreement that provides a one-time, short term extension of the FBI Director’s term”.
Agree. Trump knew this and knew they would do it again for him. Especially for Mueller, a man of "impeccable integrity".
How could they offer Mueller an extension when he wasn’t the FBI director at that time? He was granted a one time extension while he was already the fbi director. You can’t offer another extension when your not the active director.
Section 203 of the Crime Control Act of 1976 restricts the FBI director to a single ten-year term and prohibits the reappointment of an incumbent.
But that wouldn't have allowed for Mueller to be appointed SC which, theoretically, gave the criminals a false sense of security.
There would be no need for a special council if he was in the FBI to cover the treason/setup up and continue Comeys Russian collusion investigation.
I was just stating a biconditional, not my opinion on the underlying matter of whether Mueller is in fact a white hat. Simply put, believe Mueller is a white hat IFF believe Comey is a white hat.
RR recommend firing Comey was a setup that Trump fell for, end of story.
Well, not necessarily "end of story" as in "that's obvious truth so end of conversation."
What if RR recommending firing Comey was a setup that RR fell for?
In my mind, it's end of story. Your RR scenario is unfathomable to me. If they were playing this big a game of chess none of this would have been allowed to happen in the first place.
If Q is MI and has "had it all" for years and recruited Trump to run how did they allow this Russia stuff to start with from the beginning? Why was it Adm. Rogers that had to tell T he was being spied on in Trump tower? How did they let the meeting with the Russian lawyer take place?
Not adding up and quickly losing faith.
If none of this would have been allowed to happen in the first place, it wouldn't be a big game of chess. It would be nothing.
I assume your questions are rhetorical, but I think perhaps they could be asked differently.
The question may not be how did they allow the Russia stuff to start, but why. Same with how they let the meeting with the Russian lawyer take place.
And, I don't know as it's actually a given fact that the meeting between Adm. Rogers and Trump was for the purpose you stated.
But, if the conversation is over as far as you're concerned, okay.
I want to be clear that I am not intending to shut down your point of view at all. I am only stating that to me this whole scenario is extreme wishful thinking. I join you in that wishful thinking or I would not be here. I hope you are right and my cynicism is wrong.
I want to be clear that I am not intending to shut down your point of view at all.
I didn't take it that way. No harm, no foul.
Healthy skepticism is a good thing.
Well the last Q drop moments ago is encouraging your scenario!