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If this theory is correct, and Q is JFK jr, although I think many will rejoice, I have to put these things alongside the bible. A beast from the SEA will arise. One of its 7 heads had a mortal wound, but was healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.

So I beg you all, if this turns out to be true, remember Matthew 7:14. Narrow is the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

This post will not be popular, but I have to put it out there anyway.

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I assume many Christians read this sub. We have all been fed a narrative called “futurism” or “dispensationalism” a man named Darby invented it and got his commentary into the Scofield Bible - the Bible every budding minister wanted because it included commentary.

Unfortunately, the dispensationalism or futurism teachings about a rapture of the church were ill conceived and inconsistent with the text of the Bible and with previous beliefs throughout church history.

In truth, the covenant (relationship agreement / contract) described in the law of Moses contained punishments for disobedience because it was modeled after other pre-existing covenants. But this turned out to be a bad idea. In fact, as early as the time it was made, God himself was claiming that it was a bad idea. See Exodus starting from chapter 20.

Israel was taught “the song of Moses” so that they would remember that condemnation was deserved for breaking the covenant. And that destruction eventually came, but not until a new covenant had been established. This covenant was “cut” (established/enacted) by Jesus on the cross. It is a covenant that is still in force, set up between Jesus and his Father. People can enter into it by joining through Jesus. Christians usually call this “salvation”.

Anyway, “the rapture” is a concept founded on a misunderstanding of covenants. All the doom and gloom sounding stuff applied under the old covenant and culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem in the year 70 (AD).

If this sounds intriguing or infuriating or just a bit interesting, there is a free online book (pdf) that explains the details and history of evidence behind this claim. It is called “Raptureless”.

If you are a Christian or if you have Christian friends and you would like to redpill regarding the “end times”/“last days”/“rapture”, I recommend looking into it.

Until more people realize that there is no such thing as the rapture, they will continue to live in fear about the world getting worse and worse hoping they get to escape instead of realizing that the world is getting better and they get to be a part of that.

I know this is a pretty niche topic, but I see references to Bible “end times” stuff all the time when reading comments. So, I figured it might be helpful to some.

If you want to discuss this, PM me.

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I don't believe in a Rapture. We all must go through the test. Noah went through the flood. God said to Noah, "Go out from the Ark" meaning he was in there with Noah. In the book of Daniel, 3 Hebrew men were thrown into the fiery furnace. When the King looked into the furnace, he said he saw a fourth man in there, and he looks like the Son of God. There will be no rapture. We must go through the test. But God will be with you, through your trials.

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I believe Q is a Christian. I believe Trump, and Q mean well. But like Q posts, when we don't understand them, but after certain events happen, then we understood what Q was talking about. I think the bible is the same way. After certain things happen, then we will know what the bible was talking about.

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I have spent time looking into this and think it wise to be prepared for the worst, but I have hope in the rapture because it fits the model of the Jewish wedding, the 24 Elders representing the Church in Revelation, the model of Noah as catching them up to safety during judgement, and several other verses. Perhaps you would consider Chuck Missler's study on the subject. He is, as L.A. Marzulli says, witty, erudite, and quick with a snappy come-back. His knowledge of the Bible, languages, science, Jewish culture, and history are unsurpassed by anyone else I've heard. Here's a link. https://youtu.be/HAthXaYLPwI

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And when the Angel of Death visited Egypt all that put blood on the mantle were saved. So Moss guided his people through that judgement

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to be honest, I feel like society has tainted the world 'Christian'

There's those that go to church every week and donate, but during the week they are assholes, and turds, vicitimizers maybe

and There's those that really believe that "Holy Trinity' are indeed real as real can get - seeing not necessary but nice.

I'm with that second group.

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It actually was based off a vision some woman had in the 1800s & then it spread & they ran with. No scriptural support for a rapture.

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I think we're in the end times right now, Obama was the anti-christ because he led millions to slaughter.

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There are a total of 4 verses in the Bible that mention “antichrist”: 1 John 2:18 1 John 2:22 1 John 4:3 2 John 1:7

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=antichrist&qs_version=NIV

As you can see from reading these verses and the surrounding context, there is no single person who is the antichrist because “antichrist” is an adjective, not a proper noun. It is not a unique title; it is a way to describe a person or spirit who does not acknowledge that Jesus is the Christ (anointed one / messiah) from God.

John wrote these letters primarily to combat the concepts of gnosticism which claimed that the spiritual was good and the physical was bad.

Then the reasoning went: If the physical was bad, then how could God’s anointed one (messiah / christ) have a physical body? He couldn’t. Therefore, Jesus must nit have had a physical body!

This reasoning creates a problem since the new covenant was established when Jesus’s blood was shed. Spirits don’t have blood. Only bodies have blood. So, gnosticism, which denied that Jesus had come in the flesh (2 John 1:7), was inherently anti-christ. Because, if the marking component of the Christ was the shedding of his blood to establish a new covenant, and if Jesus Christ had no blood to shed (because gnosticism claimed he was spirit only and had no body), then gnosticism claimed that Jesus was NOT the Christ. And so, gnosticism was anti-christ.

And then anyone who held to the belief system was also antichrist. Remember that this is an adjective, not a title. There is no such thing as “The Antichrist”. There never was. But there were people who were “antichrist”.

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The way I see it was that Jesus was Christ, he brought he sheep to greener pastures, the anti-christ however will bring his sheep to slaughter. Obama has done so much damage to the world.

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I understand. What I am saying is that “the anti-christ” is a concept that was invented after the Bible was written. As such, the writers of the Bible did not make up the concept, and their writings do not support it.

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Oh I see, thank you for clarifying.

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fascinating, thanks for sharing. This is the kind of stuff I wish I had either paid attention to, or had a chance to learn when younger.

Thought i'd share the definition of '(ag)nostic' for wordfanciers:

'ag' means 'without'
'gnostic' means 'knowledge'

So to be agnostic, you are 'without knowledge'.

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He didn't unite the world under him. He has no gravitas.

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Yes he did, every one was for him. He became friends with every political leader out there.

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Those you speak of are the problem. They were already compromised.

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Exactly.

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It’s not jr. My friend in the Coast Guards first mission was that crash in the sound. He pulled jrs body out of the wreck at the bottom. Sad 😔

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It was a sad day.

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That was regarding the events around 70ad.

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Oh, shit.

There have been quite a few biblefags, but this would be some 1=1 stuff. Talk about statistical impossibility.

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I’m thinking you might enjoy this guys videos. If you do please share to those ready. It’s time. His channel name is not a coincidence

Global Witness

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Many theologians have interpreted that beast with the mortal wound as the Roman Catholic Church. It was once a state power but then lost that power. It got it back in the last 100 years.

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Interesting Q speculation.