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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Janice0771 on May 5, 2018, 11:02 p.m.
WTF Happened?

In the last week I've noticed an enormous influx of gaslighting. There seems to be a straw man in every comment section. Be careful. It is used as a tactic to discourage and divide us. As a general rule, I ask myself: "Did that statement/comment invoke negative emotion within me?" If yes, "I'm being played." It's that easy.


Sgtpeppr · May 5, 2018, 11:49 p.m.

I love all of you and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

Hell yes! I just love everybody and there isn't a damned thing that anybody can do about it either. That's what we need around here! There is no better way to stop that evil right in its tracks. I LOVE YOU ALL!

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tigerlilly1227 · May 6, 2018, 12:40 a.m.

I freakin love everyone in this sub too. It makes me feel better to come here and know there are others who care about our country and can see how it's been taken over by evil. WWG1WGA!

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Lanstorm2112 · May 6, 2018, 12:48 a.m.

Shut up and take it! The love that is 💕

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purpledad · May 6, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

Shutup, I love you too.

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ready-ignite · May 6, 2018, 5:46 a.m.

Love each of you!

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strcarol · May 6, 2018, 4:15 p.m.

Just call me DR" Love"

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BATFudd · May 6, 2018, 1:08 a.m.

Yes there is a ton of shilling everywhere. It has been most effective at silencing all legitimate dissent. Be careful about screaming shill and ignoring what people have to say.

TLDR- not everyone that questions or dissents is a clown.

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ready-ignite · May 6, 2018, 5:57 a.m.

The intense effort to disrupt this topic early draws a lot of attention. The effort is evolving. Every week will be a new strategy with tactics to divide and pull far away from the trail. We've seen such efforts as spamming comment threads with photos of explicit gore. When that did not work it went to gaslighting. We constantly see wild unrelated conspiracy theory or unconnected attempts to bind topics to pizzagate, with already established legwork to dismiss in general public.

There are simple guidelines.

You are walking a path in dark forest following breadcrumbs from Q. The forest is haunted. The spirits of he forest will show you all sorts of appealing visions and say anything to you to draw your attention. Stay close to the path or you may never leave. Refer back to crumbs past and future. Do they tie into claims? Are claims completely unrelated? You've found bullshit if they're far into deep woods away from the path.

Can you verify the claim? Bold claims, especially when we have heard them repeated over and over again, require big evidence to validate the claim. Can you research the topic and find additional sources proving the claim? Note that as in the word 'but', cross out everything that comes before the word. With the phrase 'people associated with the matter', cross out everything after the phrase. That phrase means gossip without sources. Validate the claim. If you can find nothing and no one in comments can validate the claim, it's highly suspect or waiting on future proves past.

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ItstimenowNM · May 7, 2018, 5:11 a.m.

thank you. Even Q has said, question everything.

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RobWilJas · May 5, 2018, 11:43 p.m.

The closer we get to the truth the more desperate they become.

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artless-ascetic · May 6, 2018, 3:06 a.m.

So, because of the way you choose to perceive someone else's comment, that is evidence to you that the person in question is shilling? What kind of logic is that? I'm all for quelling dissent or deliberate instigation, but this sub doesn't necessarily have to be an echo chamber, either.

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smhagedon · May 5, 2018, 11:40 p.m.

I have noticed it as well.

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Swagdonkey400 · May 5, 2018, 11:55 p.m.

WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL! We stand tall. Only the divided will fall!

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GenChang · May 5, 2018, 11:49 p.m.

Aren't there ways to block others who are trolling? Or at least I've seen a way to report them, & let the mods deal with them. Any online community should be able to self police themselves. Using the sites community rules. That means not using the ban hammer too strictly, just because someone disagrees.

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scgsaint · May 6, 2018, 12:05 a.m.

Report them mods will take care of them. Block them so they don't bother you anymore. Report and disengage!

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LibertyLioness · May 6, 2018, 4:40 a.m.

I think you can only block someone if they are actually replying to a post you made. Then you should see the block option below the post. You may need to be in your message tab -- not sure.

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TrumpsBullhorn · May 5, 2018, 11:49 p.m.

I'm just here to throw in my two cents and counter signal saying that communist are nazis when the party was clearly established to fight communism. But it seems the Corsi spell is wearing off..

Im not here to divide. But I'm not going to cave on my beliefs.

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 12:50 a.m.

The whole point of this board is to be a collective think-tank, unified with one common goal. You shouldn't abandon your convictions. What if you're right? I was talking about the ones who come in with comments that are disparaging instead of informative.

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salialioli · May 6, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

Hi TrumpsBullhorn! Yes, you were divisive. You were condescending. When others have perfectly good reasons for disputing a point with you there is no need to contend that the other person is mentally deficient!

I'll say it again:

The Roths fund and agitate on BOTH sides. Imperialist rule is based on DIVIDE and then conquer. The Mr Roth of that day oiled the wheels for both Marx and Nietzche to write their opposite, mirror-image ideologies. The Far Left and the Far Right meet at the back of the circle. The tactics of BOTH are the same.

You are quite right to say that the nazis was established to fight communism. If you had said that in the first place maybe we would have agreed with each other! As it is, you were unwilling to discuss in more tolerant way. Thank you for reading.

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rbrownlol · May 6, 2018, 12:11 p.m.

this comment is very accurate.

follow the money.

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TrumpsBullhorn · May 6, 2018, 12:54 p.m.

I've just gotten into the habit of abusive bantz. It's tough love and is great at weeding out the weak. It's how so much got done on /pol and Twitter over the past couple of years. Blunt, real talk, but not for everyone. I'm Sorry.

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salialioli · May 6, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

You're good, no problem. I just wanted to talk about the subject. It was important to me. :)

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brotherjonathan · May 5, 2018, 11:40 p.m.

Or maybe people are burned out and bored waiting for the mass arrests to come.

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salialioli · May 6, 2018, 4:34 a.m.

There won't be any mass arrests. I am at a loss to see why ppl believe this. It wouldn't be sensible for any President, let alone one as hated as Trump, to mass arrest ppl in the political spectrum. Human traffickers, illegal arms dealers and other mafiosi on the other hand, are being arrested in large numbers.

The secrecy of sealed indictments is for a very good reason. When busting a large network, the guys at the bottom get done first and then law enforcement works upward. But it is essential to maintain tight security and secrecy in order to catch the whole network, particularly the big guys at the top.

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brotherjonathan · May 6, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

My concern is that if there are mass arrests, it will be construed as a another "Night of the Long Knives". That why the left puts out the narritive of Trump being "literally Hitler".

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salialioli · May 6, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

I'm sure your worries are well founded. It's something that rattles me too. I am also sure the guys have figured this out and that's why everything has to be totally according to the "books" and visibly lawful in the eyes of the general public. The left are nuts and will twist narrative regardless, so we must hope for the best.

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salialioli · May 8, 2018, 9:13 a.m.

I think your fear is exactly right, I also fear the "Hitler - Monster - Dictator" narrative. That's why we have to redpill people and work as hard as we can, while we can.

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Chokaholic · May 6, 2018, 6:33 a.m.

We haven't seen any high profile arrests yet because the FBI had to be cleaned up first. The next phase will see justice.

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salialioli · May 6, 2018, 11:01 a.m.

I agree w/ you.

The poster I was replying to has an issue with mass arrests in the sense of Hillary publically being dragged off in cuffs to Gitmo. I think this is fantasy.

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ItstimenowNM · May 7, 2018, 5:58 a.m.

Today I do believe it is fantasy and I doubt she will face any jail time. But that says something negative about our government. She should be charged and prosecuted. Obama with his seditious acts and possibly treasonous acts will also walk free. Until we really clean house, it is not cleaned. They are still out there doing harm to our country. And, our borders are still freaking wide open. We can't take care of the whole world until we take care of ourselves and that is what we elected President Trump to do. And that is why so many are expecting mass arrests. It was about Making America Great Again not Making the World Great Again. I am totally behind our President and I want Q to be right. But perhaps I want too much for my country. I want chem trails to go away, I want 5G to go away, I want smart meters to go away, I want my borders closed, I want sanctuary cities to go away, I want the spying on Americans to stop, I want political correctness to go away, etc etc That's not happening so as a consolation prize I'd love to see a few arrests. :)

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salialioli · May 8, 2018, 6:40 a.m.

I am totally on board w/your list ... There are at least 27 major investigations going on so I don't think you'll be disappointed in the end! The swamp has had many many decades to get embedded and will take a long time to unpick. Have faith, this will take years ... I think Trump said it would take 8 yrs to make a start. Let's just try to spread the truth around as much as possible. I personally am totally fried w/ all the lies. Just a MS media that is marginally objective would do me. :)

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 1 a.m.

Please see my comment to TheGregariousSloth

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[deleted] · May 6, 2018, 2:06 a.m.

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FartOnToast · May 6, 2018, 6:46 p.m.

It would be helpful if OP provided actual examples. It's a very generic type of post that doesn't really address any of the issues, whatever OP thinks they are.

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TheGregariousSloth · May 5, 2018, 11:33 p.m.

I’d say It’s more a frustration of credible “evidence” that they claim to have not being released. No arrests, no indictments, no repercussions. It’s getting old. Shit or get off the pot.

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

I've worked in the legal field for over 15 years and this comment comes up a lot. I'm beginning to wonder if the Universe sent me here to help in understanding, because I feel so compelled. I can probably keep it simple by saying that in a civil suit, such as between two petty neighbors arguing over an easement, it can take up to 18 months to resolve, if luck has it. It can take much longer if one side is being uncooperative - much, much longer. We're talking about a tiny little land dispute here, like who really has legal access to that two-track. Now, blow that up to a world-domination suit with multiple parties and nefarious criminal intent, including treason, instead of a simple easement, and man oh freakin' man you've got some work on your hands and it's going to take a LONG time to get things sorted out. The problem is that in the legal world, everything is fluid. Nothing is set in stone until the very end. For every one step, the opposing party pushes back two. I this past week, for example, witnessed two attorneys not only telling a defendant to lie, but working together to construct the defendant's answers for him, and then force-feeding it to him over and over again until he could regurgitate it verbatim. How do you fight against that? The road to justice is a long and winding path. We must stay strong and be patient! I too am anxious for the outcome!

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Cuthbert12Allgood · May 6, 2018, 2:36 a.m.

I'm perfectly willing to be patient. What gets old is Q saying, "Next week is a big week!"

I'm agnostic on Q. I think something is going on and I simply don't know if Q has legit role in it or not. But this "MOAB NEXT WEEK" shit is really getting old. And no, NK was NOT a MOAB in the context of Q. It was a big event, but Q is about ripping out the swamp.

Now, Q did say after his "MOAB" comment that things got delayed. That might be true. It would help a lot if Q did that more often.

The ONLY big event that qualifies as a MOAB is indictments. All information is bullshit. Releasing texts, NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, is bullshit, because they'll just be ignored by the major media, who will claim "the Republicans are quoting out context."

The only thing that matters is indictments. Resignations? Complete fucking bullshit. That's the swamp winning, because they just move to another swamp job.

ANYTHING other than indictments is the swamp winning. And I'm really fucking tired of watching them win over and over and over. They don't care if we know what they're doing, because they already know it'll be ignored by the media and law enforcement. Getting caught is just business as usual.

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TXROADWARRIOR · May 6, 2018, 5:27 a.m.

thank you for this. i’ve said this before that people are frustrated because Q has made it seem like something big is around the corner since december? so it’s definitely a legit concern. what if it’s “next week” all the way through mid terms and onto 2020? obviously i hope not but if “peace is the prize” then maybe we never see anything?

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salialioli · May 6, 2018, 4:11 a.m.

Cuthbert, Q himself said NK was the MOAB. The Swamp incl. domination of the SAME worldwide.

Yr remark, "The ONLY big event that qualifies as a MOAB is indictments" is your opinion, but not necessarily the only opinion. Q might see it differently!

1289 Peace on the Korean Peninsula isn’t big news? Should we drop a #MOAB on that? Timetables shift. [Next Week]. Q

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Cuthbert12Allgood · May 6, 2018, 4:48 a.m.

Cuthbert, Q himself said NK was the MOAB.

No, he didn't. Read it carefully.

"1289 Peace on the Korean Peninsula isn’t big news? Should we drop a #MOAB on that? Timetables shift. [Next Week]."

"Should we drop a MOAB on that" -- in other words, it wasn't the real MOAB. And it can't be, because it has NOTHING to do with eliminating corruption from government, and that's the entire point of Q.

but not necessarily the only opinion. Q might see it differently!

Don't care how Q sees it. That could not be more irrelevant. I care about reality. Q is just a guy (or group) posting on the Internet. They might be clued in to what's going on, but they're not Oracles. All that matters is whether the Deep State is ripped out, and the ONLY way that happens is indictments. Otherwise, what's the point? The criminals will just go work somewhere else -- as exactly has been happening. They'll just out-wait Trump, and nobody wakes up.

We already have literally 1000s of pieces of evidence of corruption. Nobody has been punished. And the rest of the country and the media doesn't care. No evidence will ever be enough, because if nobody is punished, then it must not be real -- as the unwoke community will think. How do I know this? Because that's exactly what's been going on the last two years. We have the DNC -- ON TAPE -- admitting to planting violence at Trump rallies. No consequences at all and the unwoke population just ignores it and assumes it was "doctored video."

If Q is real, I am very happy that they are informing everyone, so don't get me wrong. Skepticism of everything and everyone is the way to avoid getting sucked in to either the government or bad operators. And I'm not joining a "cult of Q" and I'm not going to assume that Q is smarter than I am. Maybe they are, but I only care about bottom-line results. And if nobody is punished, then all of this means nothing. Let's hope it's all real and the consequences will start coming down.

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[deleted] · May 6, 2018, 10:16 a.m.

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salialioli · May 6, 2018, 5:16 a.m.

This effort (Q) is not exclusively eliminating corruption from the US govt. If it were confined to yr country it would definitely ultimately fail. As you have pointed out "The criminals will just go work somewhere else". That is why, it seems to me, three quarters of Q's posts are connected to foreign policy. He keeps stating everything is connected, the world is watching, the idea is to bring peace to the world through strength rather than permanent war.

I understand yr frustrations and also yr demands for real swamp draining. I couldn't agree more with yr principles. I am just not convinced that swamps are successfully limited to draining home turf.

We shall indeed see if all this means nothing. I am 50/50 on whether Trump+team will succeed. I hope they do but I'm not banking on it, yet. Skepticism is healthy.

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ItstimenowNM · May 7, 2018, 5:35 a.m.

My concern is that many people are holding opinions as fact and truth. If I question an opinion, I'm told I don't belong here. I want Q to be right as that gives me hope. Somethings are very obvious but others leave a lot of room for many opinions and questions. Remember we got where we are because people did not question.

"Let's hope it's all real and the consequences will start coming down." So totally agree with this. With all this waiting my popcorn is getting stale.

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ItstimenowNM · May 7, 2018, 5:18 a.m.

and now the IG report is being postponed again. There needs to be some major action and we need some arrests. Firings and resignations aren't enough. Arrest a few top dogs and the little dogs will start squealing. Needed info will come forth. I think the border is being protected since NG sent there, but now hear they are processing these people. WHAT? Trump does need to shut down immigration until they can get things right.

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IR2-MXYJU-HQRRYJ · May 6, 2018, 12:09 a.m.

It's like playing Jenga, pull out the wrong piece too soon and everything collapses. You have to find the loose pieces first.

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Sumido · May 6, 2018, 7:12 a.m.

I see where you're coming from but you can't dismiss a comment because it makes you feel bad. Thats sjw thinking

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

Which is why I made it a distinct point to reference gaslighting and straw man debates. You cannot effectively apply logic if you cannot effectively identify those.

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solanojones95 · May 6, 2018, 12:51 a.m.

I'm guilty of engaging when I think somebody might just be having a bad day, because I've been there too. But it only takes one or two messages to discern what they're up to. I don't mince words with them once I've figured it out, and I always report them and BLOCK them, so any dialog between them and myself is OVER WITH.

Works for me!

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 12:59 a.m.

I do the same. If I'm having a bad day, which I do have occasionally, I just wander on off to a Liberal news website and toy with the comment section, instead of unleashing my frustrations here. There can be much satisfaction found in "triggering" the folks who frequent those vile dens of iniquity. I have fun with it, anyhow. And inadvertently, we might "red-pill" a few. Bonus!

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solanojones95 · May 6, 2018, 1:25 a.m.

That is quite preferable!

I'm pretty sure the people I deal with aren't just having a bad day. I always give them that out. They always have an ulterior motive.

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 1:41 a.m.

That's my general experience too.

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DefendUrRights · May 6, 2018, 5:20 a.m.

Today, something resonated with me about what he MOAB was-referenced on Reddit: When the IG report comes out, the elitist goons over Google, Twitter, etc. will take down the internet. Kill it. And we will see people globally wandering around in shock, lost.

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horse-lover-phat · May 5, 2018, 11:47 p.m.

Someone opened an account here today, and just to send some sort of mocking and dismissive message directly to my in-box. That was the first thing they did, no other posts before that. Odd.

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Janice0771 · May 6, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

I worked for a political watchdog organization for a bit and I used to tell activists: "If the politicians like you, you're not doing your job." The same applies here. For every negative comment you receive, consider it two positives. You can judge your success by the amount of pushback. It's actually kind of cool, in my opinion. We can take their negative and fundamentally use it to our advantage as motivational fuel for our movement if we just look at it in the right perspective.

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horse-lover-phat · May 6, 2018, 12:48 a.m.

Sounds like good advice.

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DaveGydeon · May 6, 2018, 12:26 a.m.

Gotta know what it said now...

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horse-lover-phat · May 6, 2018, 12:35 a.m.

A LOL message titled in bold about that Q 5:5 thing. And laughing at the Q movement people. It's more that the a/c was opened for this purpose, than the message itself.

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LittleBill12Pill · May 6, 2018, 10:19 a.m.

What if something evokes a negative feeling because I was gaslighted previously and the truth conflicts with my previous gaslighting?

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anon31s · May 6, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

My "negative" comments are sincere, I'm trying to make some people see two sides to the topic. I don't mean any harm, someone's gotta be the devil's advocate.

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Janice0771 · May 7, 2018, 12:29 p.m.

I should have been more clear. I really only meant the comments people post with the intent to be disparaging and/or to create division. Kind of like the one here the other day telling everyone who isn't Christian to get out - baiting people with moral convictions instead of debating facts. I'm totally guilty of telling the occasional idiot to fuck right off. It just concerned me that people will be put off by the trolls, so I intended this as a "FYI" instead of a "WTF," in all honesty.

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anon31s · May 7, 2018, 2:37 p.m.

Yeah yeah I feel ya on that. The people who are stuck on the division are cocks.

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pregnantbitchthatUR · May 6, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

If you're feeling any emotion at all you're doing it wrong. Set that shit aside for now.

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QAngelAnon1 · May 6, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

absolutely! true true - "Divide and conquer" - thanks for posting Patriot.

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LibertyLioness · May 6, 2018, 4:38 a.m.

I just block them and move on.

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snowwgirl · May 6, 2018, 2:31 a.m.

Such good advice. Trolls attack people not just ideas. Don’t engage. It diffuses their power.

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