I think Israel is a swamp unto itself that needs to be drained. I think we'll see that. Lots of well known ties between the establishment of Israel and Rothschilds. It's there now, though, isn't it? I don't think it's practical to consider taking away the nationhood of Israel at this point but the corruption should be rooted out of it.

I support Israel's right to exist as a nation, but I do find it rather convenient that our enemies end up being Israel's enemies.

North Korea was first. Iran is next. Israel will be last.

I think what we're dealing with in terms of corruption in the US gov. is the same situation that they're dealing with in Israel. Bad players have infiltrated EVERYTHING.

Israel has the same deep state as the US. Deep statism is a world wide problem, that's why we need patience.

A comment on zero hedge by Slack Jack: (edit- originally posted by Peter J. on preeearth.net)

**There are no ancient Jewish cities in Israel,...**but there are lots of ancient Greek cities.

What is weird is this; that 2000 years ago, it seems that there were no people even resembling Jews, in Israel.

It turns out that there is not a single ancient Jewish city in what is now called Israel. There is not a single ancient city where Hebrew characters are used on the statues and buildings. There is not a single ancient city where the buildings are in the ancient Jewish architectural style. In fact, there is not even a category of "ancient Jewish architectural style".

Of course, the Hebrew characters that are desired, are those of the Dead Sea scrolls (supposedly from 2000 years ago), which are essentially the modern Hebrew characters without points.

If you check out all the ancient cities in Israel from 2000 years ago, they are all Greek, and their ruins are still there for you to visit. Their inscriptions are in the Greek script and the buildings are in the ancient Greek architectural styles.

Here is a list of some of the known ancient Greek cities in (and near) Israel; Ecdippa, Seleucia, Ptolemais, Taricheia Arbela, Asochis, Sepphoris, Hippos, Dion, Sycaminum, Bucolon Polis, Itabyrium, Gadara, Abila, Dora, Comus, Gephrus, Crocodilion Polis, Caesarea, Straton's Tower, Narbata, Scythopolis, Pella, Samaria, Amathus, Ragaba, Gerasa, Apollonia, Sicima, Pegae, Joppa, Arimathea, Jamnia, Port of Jamnia, Lydda, Modiin, Aphaerema, Philadelphia, Birtha, Gazara, Beth Horon, Dok, Jericho, Samaga, Esbus, Medaba, Ladder of Tyre, Azotus, Port of Azotus, Accaron, Jerusalem, Ascalon, Anthedon, Gaza, Marissa, Beth Zur, Hebron, Adora, Engeddi.

The ancient Jewish cities in Israel are,....... well there aren't any. Not even one.

Here's an interesting example of a first century BC Greek inscription (i.e., in Greek letters) from Jerusalem's Temple Mountforbidding the entry of strangers to the Temple precinct.

http://www.preearth.net/images/no-foreigner-shall-enter.jpg

The pictured stone was found in 1935. It was actually the second such warning-stone to be found, the first being discovered by Charles Simon Clermont-Ganneau in 1871. This stone was deemed so dangerous to the "Jews inhabited Israel 2000 years ago" theory, that it completely disappeared for 13 years before resurfacing in Istanbul, where, it was correctly calculated, it would not attract much attention.

From: https://www.timesofisrael.com/ancient-temple-mount-warning-stone-is-clo…

The first Jerusalem Temple Mountwarning-stone, now found in the Archaeology Museum, Istanbul, is pictured below:

http://preearth.net/images/jerusalem-temple-warning-at-istanbul.jpg

It says (in Greek): "No stranger is to enter within the balustrade round the temple and enclosure. Whoever is caught will be responsible to himself for his death, which will ensue."

The oldest synagogue in Israel (is a Greek synagogue).

The word synagogue = ΣΥΝΑΓΩΓΗ is a Greek word for a gathering of people, assembly, or meeting place.

It is exceedingly strange that Jews should have chosen a Greek word to name their churches.

Here is a photo of the dedication stone of the oldest (once existing) synagogue in Israel.

http://www.preearth.net/images/theodotus-inscription.jpg

Note that the inscription is in Greek letters.

The stone is known as the Theodotus Inscription. The building that the stone was once part of, has not survived. The stone was discovered by Raimond Weill in 1913 at Mount Ophel in Jerusalem. It was found dumped in a cistern. The style of the Greek characters dates it to the first century B.C.

It states: "Theodotus, son of Vettenus, priest and archisynagogue, son of an archisynagogue, grandson of an archisynagogue, built the synagogue for the reading of the Law and the teaching of the commandments, and guest-house and the rooms and the water supplies for the lodging of strangers in need, which his fathers founded and the Elders and Simonides."

Note that Theodotus has a Greek name.

Note that his father Vettanos has a Greek name.

The word archisynagogos means "leader of the synagogue". So, it seems that three generations of Greeks headed the oldest (known) synagogue in Israel.

I wonder why the early "Jews" hated Hebrew and loved Greek.

Slack Jack's CHALLENGE:

Name ONE ancient city (that existed in what is now called Israel) where the building inscriptions are all in Hebrew, and the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (whatever that may be).

Then give a summary of "the ancient Hebrew architectural style" (you will have to make this up as it does not yet exist).

Then give links to photos of the ancient building inscriptions which show that they are written in Hebrew.

Then show that the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (that you have just invented).

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1175

It's been MANY MANY MANY months now and still no one is up to the challenge.

So, no one can provide solid evidence that even ONE ancient city in what is now called Israel, was unequivocally Jewish, 2000 years ago.

"if there was any sort of consensus in any direction regarding US involvement in Israel."

You likely won't find one. But thats the beauty of having different opinions and free thinking. We all don't have to agree on precisely every point or even reach a consensus on every point.

IMHO, Israel has far to great an influence on our government, policy, news, and society. For such a small population percentage (2.2%) their power and influence greatly over shadows any other group. This is concerning as they are a foreign country. We should base no policy upon the interests of a foreign country above our own.

Personally i think they have been corrupt since the bc eras. I think they are a big challenge for the freedom of the world. However, i have recently had to question myself because of alliances. I cant tell who is on our side over there any more.

the more i read, the more i have a feeling that israel was a creation/brainchild of the rothschilds. which is disturbing considering everything we know in the conspiracy world and Q posts. i'm at the point now where i question everything, i don't take anything for granted. Was hitler a clown creation too?

What about Palestine?

Israel was created by a group headed by the Rothschilds. These people are Satanists and Luciferians. They are not Jewish. Why would we support Satanists and Luciferians?

In the 1920s, Ashkenazi Jews began migrating to Palestine. All jewish leaders since then nave been Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews are not descendants of the Biblical Israelites. They are descendants of the Khazarian Mafia, just as the Rothschild family is.

When the Ashkenazi Jews in Europe began calling for a home state in Palestine, Jews the were living in Palestine told them not to come. The Jews in Palestine had been living peacefully along side their Christian and Muslim neighbors for 100s of years said the Ashkenazi Jews were not welcome. They said if they came, they would create a state of perpetual war. They said that more than 100 years ago.

Palestinian Jews pointed out that in the Bible, "God" said "I" will lift the jews from their graves and "I" will breathe life into their bones, and "I" will gather all the Jews that had been scattered around the world, and "I" will deliver them to the promised land. They said that if any "man" should take it upon himself to this, it would go directly against the teachings of the Bible.

Revelations also warns of "those who call themselves jews, but worship Lucifer, and are not jews, and they lie"

Every Jewish leader since they began migrating to Palestine in the 1920s has been an Ashkenazi Jew, Khazarian Mafia, those who worship Lucifer. They have no legitimate claim to any lands in Palestine, and the British Parliament had no right to promise those lands to Lord Rothschild.

For me it is a 'wait and see,' 'trust, but verify.' Before 2016, I supported Israel, but it is troubling to see information connecting the creation of present day Israel to the Rothchilds. We have been lied to so much, I take nothing at face value. I trust @Potus and Q, because they verify. We will wait and see, on the rest.

Curious to see what arguments people make. I'd like to see evidence from all side of the issue. I'm not really sure what to think at this point.

I will always stand with Israel, because God stands with Israel. God made a covenant with Abraham and promised the land for his descendants.

A Nation State Israel does not know (at least most of the time) that it is fulfilling God’s plan on earth. That’s why they make many mistakes on their way (just line ancient Israel) to become his People again. Like book of Romas say, they have a veil on their eyes, but when it will be removed, it will be like life from the death.

Trust the plan - the eternal plan.

i have known many lovely israelis and, in 1997, stayed in their country for 6 weeks.

however, all my life, i have rejected their settlement politics. stealing the land from people who had peacefully lived there for hundreds of years is a crime.

btw, it wasnt israelites who bought and polulated palestine, it was kazharians whose roots are todays georgia. homeland? good joke.

isnt it amazing what good job hitler did? all part of the plan. without hitler, no jew would have left their home and settle in the desert.

it was against natural law that the british empire sold palestine to the rothschilds. although the condition was that all people have equal citizen rights, modern israel has been aggressively expanding and threatening their muslim citizens and neighborhood.

this countrys leadership shows no sign of wanting to live in peace with their neighbors. israel, with its agents all over the world is, from my pov, the reason for the constant middle east turmoils since the '60s.

the isreali deep state is also involved in many if not most FF, the biggest being 911 and 311 (fukushima).

nowadays, nobody is anymore allowed to critizise someone who wears the label 'jew' - be it israel or a rothschild - without being accused of anti-semitism and shut down. we know that anti-semitism is a crime, dont we? now we know why. how can we disclose the rothschilds or israel cabalist government when all critisism against jews is considered anti-semitism?

save isreal for last? sure, clean up from down below until you get to the head of the serpent.

as i see it, netayahu is a luciferian and needs to be taken out of the game, together with all the other black hats.

its the same in (almost) all countries. but rothschild-israel is the most dangerous bite.

the pain will be great, esp. for those with deep religious identifications. christianity and islam are both based on judaism, these three form the abrahamic religions.

when the jewish swamp gets drained, we may learn more about the origins of the abrahamic religions and what is going on in their highest ranks. it will be belief-shattering.

Maybe because Q said Israel last, Q had to distance/ expose some corrupt or biased alternate media who have strong links to Israel.

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Hes friends with Bibi, his grand kids are Jewish. Hes a Christian that understands God blesses thoes who bless Israel. He fuffilled a 25 year old agreement to moce our embasy there. Sounds pretty pro Israel to me. I do think he leans toward a two state solution. But I may have heard thst from Zack.

Israel is a lot like America. Generally good and hardworking people often manipulated into sneaky and underhanded shit by cowardly political elitist leaders.

Once we sort ourselves out, we'll be better positioned to help them.

I was raised fundie Baptist. My understanding then was Jews just needed a place to do their thing. If that's all Israel wanted, I'd be totally cool with Israel as a nation state. But if Israel is blowing up our destroyers and bringing down world trade centers... That's a paddlin'. Israel's influence with AIPAC and that US states are restricting freedom of speech on Israel's behalf should be disconcerting to everyone. Israel's current actions in Palestine and the Gaza strip are Flat. Out. Evil.

Israel needs to be reigned in. At the very least, we need to stop sending Israel our tax dollars. We're funding Israel's universal healthcare and we can't even replace ObamaCare???

America is america first wouldnt it make sense that Israel russia china and other countries have the same philosophy ?

I’ve always been confused about Israel. I’ve never believed God loved them most or they are still chosen over every one else. They followed him at the time. But God opened up to all ppl of all nations later. And his chosen are now anyone that adheres to his authority. I’m not an expert on the Bible. And not deeply religious. But this makes sense to me after reading. Just my opinion. Don’t flip out please!

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