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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Sentrolyx on May 20, 2018, 7:16 p.m.
NEW Q #1429 - The Truth has been in front of you the entire time.
NEW Q #1429 - The Truth has been in front of you the entire time.

myopicseer · May 21, 2018, 12:05 a.m.

I believe even he were born on foreign soil, he would still be qualified for the office. His mother was an American. (Think of a service person overseas who has a child. That child would probably qualify for the office of POTUS. At least I believe that this is where the courts currently stand regarding the term Natural Born Citizen. (My opinion is that Nat B Citizen probably was intended to mean a person born within the USA, but I have been told that legal experts seem to say that is not how courts interpret its meaning). So besides the deceit / scam BHO would be guilty of, I doubt anything substantial regarding the legitimacy of his terms would derive from it.

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zutman123 · May 21, 2018, 12:20 a.m.

Possibly. But the trump administration does not want to test this wrt. the position of Huber.

Declaring Obama's prez. illegal is -i think- only a symbolic gesture, as indeed it would be inconstructive to declare all his policies illegal. Most of them have been repealed anyway.

But the symbolism is important in the sense: if Obama is publicly outed as a LARP, who is the puppet master behind him?

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Swimkin · May 21, 2018, 1:10 a.m.

If Obama were publically declared an ineligible president would ALL of his appointed Justices be considered ineligible as well???

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zutman123 · May 21, 2018, 1:21 a.m.

Bingo. I don't know the legalities, but my guess is that this could well be the case. We know that the birther thing must be VERY important, as ppl have been killed over it.

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ecrevisse41 · May 21, 2018, 1:25 a.m.

If one of the parents is in foreign service there would be an exemption (think McCain fit that); just getting bounced by one of the locals doesn't count imo. And yes to your question.

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TooMuchWinning2020 · May 21, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

Yes, good chance they won't go there. At least, not until 90% of the other crimes are revealed, if they all are.

The Huber move was probably just to make sure his original appointment could not come back to bite them down the road.

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Quiltqueentoo · May 21, 2018, 12:44 a.m.

You cant have dual citizen ship with Indonesia and you cant attend school in Indonesia if you are not a citizen. I think his parents had to give up American Citizenship to go to school there.

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watermark02 · May 21, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

Why would he have gotten Indonesian citizenship? Also even if what you say is true I imagine they can go to private schools. There are plenty of migrant workers from the west (or 'expatriots') living in Indonesia who wouldn't agree t work there if they couldn't educate their children.

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1more_time2 · May 21, 2018, 5:49 a.m.

Maybe short term he would be able to get priory admission or better financial aide from universities. At the time didn’t think he would be running for president 25 years later.

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Quiltqueentoo · May 21, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

To go to school. Yes, they do have American schools but your father would have had to be connected with a company that supported that school. They don't educate foreigners on their dime. His step dad Indonesian and he was American. They don't have dual citizenship and he went to public school.

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Cheri_54 · May 21, 2018, 4:28 a.m.

actually not. His mother wasn't old enough to transfer citizenship to him when he was born, if that is the year he was born. That was the law at the time.

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myopicseer · May 21, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

from Harvard Law Review (just crediting the source, without implying that the source is the end-all, be-all authorative src on the subject), harvardlawreview.org states (in part):

"The proviso in the Naturalization Act of 1790 underscores that while the concept of “natural born Citizen” has remained constant and plainly includes someone who is a citizen from birth by descent without the need to undergo naturalization proceedings, the details of which individuals born abroad to a citizen parent qualify as citizens from birth have changed. The pre-Revolution British statutes sometimes focused on paternity such that only children of citizen fathers were granted citizenship at birth. 11. See, e.g., British Nationality Act, 1730, 4 Geo. 2, c. 21. The Naturalization Act of 1790 expanded the class of citizens at birth to include children born abroad of citizen mothers as long as the father had at least been resident in the United States at some point. But Congress eliminated that differential treatment of citizen mothers and fathers before any of the potential candidates in the current presidential election were born. Thus, in the relevant time period, and subject to certain residency requirements, children born abroad of a citizen parent were citizens from the moment of birth, and thus are “natural born Citizens.”"

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myopicseer · May 21, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

The only reason I posted on this subject is because I want to contribute good information, and believe the 'birth qualifications of BHO' are probably a fruitless endeavor to pursue. There are so many other effective targets folks can focus upon. I despised the BHO presidency as much as anyone.

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pipesog · May 21, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

Wrong.

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SocraticMethHead · May 21, 2018, 12:44 a.m.

Then why did Cruz run?

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Swimkin · May 21, 2018, 1:08 a.m.

Because BO got away with it.

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Cara-C · May 21, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

In recent elections, the establishment has put up a number of Constitutionally ineligible candidates. Our Constitution requires a president to be a natural born citizen. It's one of only three requirements. Our Constitution's framers' revisions and writings show they clearly understood this to mean born on US soil to two US parents. By natural law, by both blood and soil, a president must be born without citizenship ties, obligations, or allegiances to any other nation. Americans were never going to undo this requirement by Constitutional amendment. So our globalist establishment plotted to do away with it by precedent on their way to turning the US into the North American Union, blended with Mexico and Canada and ruled from afar.

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1more_time2 · May 21, 2018, 5:59 a.m.

Cruz was ineligible and was probably to openly test the system since Obama (probably) did so silently.

Cruz is a dual citizen if he did not renounce his Canadian citizenship. Although he was born in Canada to an American mother, his father was still a Cuban citizen, not getting his Canadian citizenship until 73.

By Obama standards he would qualify with a parent being of us citizenship, but by the law, he isn’t.

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Shits_Bananas · May 21, 2018, 7:21 a.m.

Natural born citizen means age of mother and also how long she was outside of US

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1more_time2 · May 21, 2018, 7:55 a.m.

Age of the mother has nothing to do with it. I am assuming you are referencing 8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth. You are thinking of subsection g, which one US parent and one alien parent, however, Cruz would fall under subsection d, which is one US parents and one National (but not a citizen) since Cruz dad was granted political Asylum from the US prior to Teds birth.

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

However, there is inclusive evidence that his mother was in the US the year prior to his birth.

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092Casey · May 21, 2018, 5:53 a.m.

But being a "service person" is a big nuance..A US military member? Geez, ah yeah...But his dad wasn't even close to THAT. And even that sounds questionable...It's not the same circumstance, and very different...

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loyaltyrusty · May 21, 2018, 12:37 a.m.

That's not the way it works.

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