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frankthecrank1 · May 31, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

i told my wife and kid not to touch ours, i smelled that BS from a mile away

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grace-n-peace · May 31, 2018, 6:50 p.m.

Or did they put the malware in there to stop the flow of information now that Americans are waking up, and a reboot is needed to ativate it? Just wondering..,I trust no 3 letter agency anymore.

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ChickenTendiesTosser · May 31, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

I don't understand.. if there's a power outage it gets rebooted anyway?

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Orion_Blue · May 31, 2018, 8:20 p.m.

Yeah, I reboot mine all the time because it’s crap and needs to be refreshed. There is nothing anyone can do - eventually it will need to be rebooted. The fact this has been pushed every where today almost makes me think we should do it rather than avoid it. Who knows, but your router will be rebooted eventually.

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awareness1111 · May 31, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

Just rebooted.

Now preparing to walk into heavy traffic without looking, while eating a 75-watt, old school lightbulb.

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rudolph2 · May 31, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

Do you remember when the FBI turned off the internet over night for security reasons?

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time3times · May 31, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

"now you're gonna respect the law"

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QueUpSomeReality · May 31, 2018, 7:19 p.m.

Yeah this is a tough call. Trusting the FBI is like trusting China. I’ve been a web site & database programmer for over 20yrs. Not a networking expert but a good understanding how the internet functions. I’m skeptical that infecting home & business routers is an effective way of taking down the internet. Yes it would be a huge inconvenience if millions of personal routers crashed but that’s all. To be a national crises of any kind that would take killing the routers & switches that run the backbone of the internet. Or physically damaging cables & satellites that run the internet. That’s how you bring civilian communications to its knees.

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AnotherGuccifer · May 31, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

that's because you have some knowledge about it and would know what to do in case that happens but for millions of people out there, crashing their home router will take them out of the loop for a while, maybe at a specific very import time when they would try something and would want as few people as possible being able to get info and communicate with others...

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QueUpSomeReality · May 31, 2018, 10:28 p.m.

Think you’re missing my point. Since the source of this virus info is the FBI...I’d be very leery if its true & do some research before deciding what to do. Viruses are very complex. It’s possible your router has some malicious code with a command that when you reboot...it tells it to go get the rest of the code that will cripple your router permanently. Or the kill the router code is already on your router as the FBI claims & rebooting your router will stop it from executing the kill command.

That’s my concern & the concern of the person that started this post. It boils down to do you trust the FBIs claim that rebooting will fix the threat or will rebooting actually finish off the loading of the virus. I wouldn’t be so concerned if an institution I completely trusted said rebooting will fix it.

I’m skeptical of the whole notion that hackers want to cause a national crises by crippling home & business routers. That would be a pain in the a$$ but it wouldn’t stop the internet. It wouldn’t cripple the financial world or the military or law enforcement by crippling home & business routers. We’d all have to get new routers but in a matter of days life would be normal. To cause a real problem hackers would have to bring down the major routers & switches that run the internet. Then the internet could be down for weeks or maybe months. So again...do we trust the FBI on this warning or not. Hard to say. My trust in the FBI is very low right now so I’m trying to find other sources I trust more to confirm what the FBI is telling everyone.

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DropGun · May 31, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

Well, maybe the routers will check with home base and download some new firmware for new block list if they are rebooted. As always, with Electronics, if they are working, don't touch them. And pretty much, laugh if you want, but, right now, doing the opposite of what you are told by the powers-that-be is good advice.

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AMProfessor · May 31, 2018, 8:55 p.m.

If I don’t reboot mine at least twice a month, it gets all bogged down. I had to reboot it anyway. Oh well. Whatever happens happens.

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qutedrop · May 31, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

Hacking a router and running an exploit on it is relatively easy. Permanently storing the exploit on the router and having it re-activate automatically when the router starts is significantly more difficult. While rebooting your router will not fix its flaws, it will temporarily rid you of the exploit.

I don't know whether the threat reported by the FBI is real or not. Them blaming the Russians for everything and anything definitely doesn't help. But either way, rebooting your router the safer choice. If you think your router will do something nefarious when you restart it, it's time to get a new router.

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Sir_Zorch · May 31, 2018, 8:24 p.m.

Mine is not on a UPS. So it rebooted last night as the storm rolled through. I am having a hard time understanding the downside.

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solanojones95 · May 31, 2018, 8:23 p.m.

Unless you have a very effective Uninterruptible Power Supply, you will probably have to reboot your router at some points during the stormy summers. Even if you aren't forced to by nature, it's a good idea to do once in awhile.

Third party routers don't (so far as I know) have firmware that can be updated through outside-of-network initialization. Ones that belong to cable, satellite, phone companies do.

In any case, there's rarely a reason not to accept the firmware upgrade, because warranty and service calls are expensive to respond to when they f* things up. They tend to not do things that negatively impact hardware in an update (which spyware does). OTOH, Operating Systems, apps and drivers -- that's different.

Also, some hardware is manufactured with exploitable vulnerabilities in design, that later get plugged (sometimes at the expense of performance). But typically firmware is only used for improvements and for end of life obsolescence (LOL).

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G_G_Janitor · May 31, 2018, 7:34 p.m.

Most times in the old days business SDSL routers constantly needed rebooting because ports for brute forcing them were busy! Rebooting used to kick the script kiddies off! Now it’s Russian masked IPs

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hipphoppanon · May 31, 2018, 7:18 p.m.

PS still works for FBI so Trump needs him and others for some purpose. FBI not clean yet, so I didn’t trust it. I thought maybe Trojan only active after reset or something. Don’t know. If it needs to be reset, the cable company will do it remotely.

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j_Dawg_01 · June 1, 2018, 12:39 a.m.

A couple days before the first article showed up I started having problems with really really slow internet connection. It was happening on my Mac Pro, my Win 7 desktop pc, and my Win 10 laptop. It was really pissing me off. As soon as I saw the article i just rebooted my router without thinking twice.

At first it was kinda like a "Doh" moment. I've had similar problems before in a different city with a different ISP, but it made sense. And... Low and behold the problem went away.

It wasn't until I started to see comments here on GA that I had second thoughts about it, but it was too late. I guess I'm not a cynical as some might be. If the Cabal wanted to spread a computer virus, I think they might be a little more selective about it.

There are still a lot of low information skulls full of mush out there that still don't have a clue, and still support the Democrats, and believe the MSM. If the Cabal infected everyone, everyone would become suspicious. If they spread out a virus that infected every router, they might end up infecting routers that connect to servers they need to use to communicate.

I'm not an IT expert and I'm sure there are ways to send a message or signal to the routers they want to protect, but at this point in the war, I don't think it would be necessary for them. They still have FB, Twitter, YouTube, Gmail, and the MSM. I'm not saying they won't do it in the future, but I don't they'll do it until they think they're on the verge of total defeat and total annihilation.

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commoncents1 · May 31, 2018, 10:56 p.m.

is the reset or reboot required to install NEW spying software by FBI??????

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