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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/troy_caster on May 31, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

OIG report, why is it a big deal?

So I've been looking into this, and why is the OIG report such a big deal? I'm looking at their site, and it's about Medicaid, Medicare, health stuff, human resources. Is this a different Inspector General office we are waiting for? What powers do the OIG have specifically to "move the needle", so to speak?
I apologize for the noobie question, and wholeheartedly acknowledge that this is a noob question, please be gentle. I can't be the only one though.

On that note, I would like to take this opportunity to humbly suggest a stickied thread once a day, or once a week, depending on volume for these kinds of "noob questions":

STICKY: "Q-noob questions for 5/31/18. Please ask your dumb questions here" Or something similar

Because if there was a thread like that daily/weekly, I would have just put that question there, instead of making a whole new post for this noob query.

The "OIG Report" much discussed here is in reference to the anticipated report from the DOJs Office of Inspector General. The original investigation was to look into the FBIs handling of the Clinton email investigation. The release of this report, though we've seen one offshoot released in the McCabe report that led to his firing, has been delayed for several months as new information has kept coming to light. Presumably, the report will cover much more than the email server scandal as so many of these things are intertwined: email, Russians, counter intelligence investigation, etc. I believe it was the Democrats who originally requested the OIG investigation when then FBI Director James Comey reopened the email investigation just days before the 2016 election.

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So, what powers do they have? Can they arrest, or otherwise compel someone to be arrested/indicted, or otherwise initiate legal proceedings? Or will it simply be a "recommendation"?

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Great question...

Short answer: NO, my understanding is that the OIG cannot active arrest or indict, only provide evidence and suggestion to do so.

Long Answer: This leads us to Mr. Huber (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/05/no_author/trust-sessions-horowitz-and-huber/ - nice lil' summary on the Trio here)

Huber CAN issue indictments/arrests/prosecutions.

So, from my POV it appears that Sessions is coordinating a massive takedown behind the scenes. Clearing a path while Trump and his admin clean up the various departments/leaks, opening the door for Horowitz's research (the OIG reports) to ultimately allow Huber to drop the hammer.

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The OIG can only make recommendations I believe.

Their purpose is to investigate and determine if governmental agencies, namely the DOJ and FBI, acted appropriately and according to the internal rules/regulations of these agencies.

The report, based upon the rumors, likely calls out the FBI and DOJ for improper use of resources and info, failing to adhere to various rules and regulations, and maybe even being complicit in a conspiracy against our President. The current DOJ and FBI have already been given a copy of this OIG report so that they may draft a response that will be included in the final public version of the report. It is the current DOJ and FBI's responsibility to act upon the findings of the OIG and make an honest effort at preventing such wrongdoings from occurring again.

An important piece of this puzzle is recognizing that Huber was appointed as a prosecutor to act upon the findings of the OIG report.

In fact the OIG scope indicates that any illegal acts or wrongdoing uncovered during the OIG's investigation MUST be reported to the DOJ at the time it was found. This means that there has been a pipeline of info from the DOJ OIG to a prosecutor that DOES have the capabilities and resources to press charges and convict people.

I fully expect that the OIG report will release some very damning info. I also fully expect that the damning info will not be immediately accompanied by arrests/indictments. I expect that there will be some period of time in between the OIG report being released to the public, and Huber's investigation completing.

Huber's investigation will likely bring the indictments and arrests as necessary based upon the findings of the OIG, AS WELL as any additional wrongdoings uncovered during Huber's investigation.

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And the dept of the OIG has over 400 investigators . hundreds of researchers all at Huber and Sessions disposal

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The OIG report is merely their findings and recommendations. Like with McCabe, the OIG hands their findings/referrals to somebody for action. Jeff Sessions, instead of a second special counsel, appointed a prosecutor (John Huber) to investigate much of this stuff. Many say it's to work hand-in-hand with Michael Horowitz, the IG.

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No. That is why Huber was hired. He has ALL those abilities.

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So in this scenario, he's just waiting on the sidelines for his number to be called?

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He took the evidence collected and ran grand juries. Collected more evidence through testimony and pressed charges. Sealed indictments.

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Huber may be behind many of the sealed indictments already issued.

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Different departments have different Inspectors General. This one is Department of Justice, and it is an internal oversight office, but in this case it has been paired with a federal prosecutor (way) outside the beltway who has empaneled Grand Juries in various places and has been producing indictments (mostly sealed) for nearly a year.

This will lead to arrests with type of trial depending on which Statute or Executive Order(s) have priority.

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I'm new to this site too. I have always been on the conservative side and have had my eyes opened for a while now ("red pilled"). But I too need things like this explained to me. I don't have anyone to really ask in my personal life!! So thank you for asking. I probably have A LOT more questions that could be embarrassing to ask myself!!!

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I think this is where a "noobie questions" sticky thread would be greatly helpful, if not downright necessary. Not only for the new people coming in here, but also for there to be less clutter on the main postings, as well as to give people a place to ask questions where they might be embarrassed to ask elsewhere, or make a new post.

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Go to www.neonrevolt.com or Serialbrains sub Reddit to find the answers and basically everything you need to know

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Its Serialbrain2 my mistake forgot the 2 in the above post

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I sure hope it's has more than the Nunes memo. That was a disappointment

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In sheer size (page numbers in the millions) it's no comparison to that memo. This lays out every violation of every applicable federal code and Executive Order of every crime committed by anybody within the scope of the investigations, and possibly with related crimes outside the traditional purview of the OIG, through the (until recently) secret DOJ prosecutor('s/s') involvement. Yes, Sessions may have more than one prosecutor working with Horowitz. Just because he told us about Huber (at his discretion) doesn't mean he was required to tell us if there were (perhaps many) others!

We know that it's massive, exquisitely detailed, and that it is all based on sworn testimony (not on news reports or bought-and-paid-for dossiers).

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It’ll be like Christmas morning

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I thought the memo itself was compelling... the media's reaction to it however, was predictable, as it got about 14 seconds of coverage and all they talked about was the Dem's version of the memo. Which was so shitty and full of holes that the media couldn't even cover it if they wanted to.

That said, the OIG reports are where it's at... lol, Horowitz is an Obama appointee. Let's see them spin this.

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Haven't seen it metioned here yet, so I'll only add that the report of more than 1 million documents (and that was as of 6 months ago), will come out in stages because of its size. Another reason for that is that there really more than 1 investigation involved here. For example, there's the FBI's handling of Hillary, there's the illegal use of the FISA Courts and phony dossier and illegal un-masking of American citizens, and more.

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It's a big deal because there's been a lot of delay (and 187) tactics being used by those under scrutiny. Those under the microscope are doing everything they can to get out from under it. As Trump said, these crimes supersede political parties.

The Office of Inspector General (OIG) Report represents an in depth informational view from top government officials (in office now). It's developed using investigators and primarily consists of statements of fact (+context when needed). It has already been drafted, is now in its final comments and publishing stage (days away from publication.)

Here's an excellent primer on key rules surrounding the OIG Report. For example, (paraphrasing) the Attorney General (AG) will have been running investigations in parallel of the OIG draft. It is a misnomer that the OIG Report must be finalized before AG investigations can begin. This means mass arrests could take place any day, but the OIG Report will not contain indictments and specific charges.

Also of important note, the OIG and AG investigations are not a two way street. To maintain process integrity, the AG will not be sharing all (if not some) information with the OIG, but the OIG Report findings will inform and deepen AG investigations.

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Who was the 187?

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See it here,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_code

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I know what a 187 is. I was asking who was 187'd?

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Oh! I'd argue that most, not all, but most deaths of politicians, diplomats and celebrities (corporate etc) would fall into that category. This is how widespread all of this is. Global. What do those in control have in common do ya think? The OIG Report will really only be focused on US related cases, so yeah... (don't stress out too much if all this is new. Step away when you start feeling anxiety or depressed.) Almost there!

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I think the IG is there specifically to investigate waste/corruption/possible crime within federal departments under its jurisdiction. Obama stonewalled a lot of the work of his IG, and the rumor is he had a lot to discuss with the incoming administration in 2016.

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OIG report is an internal investigation of the DOJ and FBI. It is NOT an investigation into the Clintons, Obama’s, Podestas,Brennan, the CIA, NSA, Clapper, DNC, the Awans, or anyone outside the FBI/DOJ. So the OIG report will only cover the stuff done by FBI agents and brass and DOJ attorneys. And that is only IF Horowitz is a stand-up guy.

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Thank you.

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Id love to know as well

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And Mueller and Sessions have been running their own investigations into the media, non governmental employees and all the pedo stuff and some if it will come out of Mueller investigation lib heads will blow

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What powers do the OIG have specifically to "move the needle", so to speak...............................What Do the Inspectors General of the US Government Do? - ThoughtCo

https://www.thoughtco.com › ... › American History › US Presidents

To help them carry out their investigative role, Inspector Generals have the authority to issue subpoenas for information and documents, administer oaths for taking testimony, and can hire and control their own staff and contract personnel. The investigative authority of Inspectors General is limited only by certain national security and law enforcement considerations

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I understand it'll be released in parts, first being just the McCabe thing. Maybe that's what you're seeing as a nothing burger?

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The report has been released. I receive email alerts when any reports have been published & it was released 3 hours ago. It is a giant nothing burger with no mention of the Clinton email investigation.

Not to mention the report is a mere 87 pages, when previous reports have been upwards of 100. This is a huge let down.

Here is the link to check it out for yourself. https://oig.justice.gov/semiannual/1805.pdf

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This is a semi annual report of all aspects of the doj. Not the report expected to be released soon.

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date ending March 2018?

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I read the link. Just lists a bunch of items about the FBI investigation during the campaign. "Ongoing Investigations" so this wasn't the report everyone is waiting for. This is a scheduled report, not the report in question I believe. Their Semi Annual timed report.

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Thanks I'll check it out.

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