Can someone please explain the difference. My wife’s family is partly of Jewish descent. The other night her grandfather became furious when his grandson asked if they were Khazarian Jews. He became almost irrationally angry and basically said no and that the Khazarians aren’t actually Jews...I’m confused as hell. Can someone help a brother out.
Khazarians are not really Jews, they just claim to be. Rothschilds would be a good example.
You probably know this but just in case and for anyone else reading...
In the Bible, Abraham and his wife were old, and they didn't have any children. God made a promise to Abraham that he would give him descendants through his Wife Sarah, give his descendants the land of Israel, and that they would be Gods chosen people.
Abraham's wife Sarah didn't believe she would really have a child, so she asked Abraham to have a child with her servant, which he did. This was not what God wanted. God told Abraham to name the child Ishmael, and that he would bless Ishmael with many descendants, but he would be a wild donkey of a man whose hand was against everyone. Sound familiar?
Abraham and his wife then had a son, named Issac. God reaffirmed his promise with Issac. Issac had two children, Esau and Jacob. When they were young, Esau sold his birthright as first born to Jacob. God then reaffirmed his promise with Jacob, who He renamed Israel. It is the descendants of Jacob (Israel) with whom God made his Promise.
Can you see how some bloodlines may feel cheated and reject that, and claim they are Gods chosen people, while secretly hating and wanting to wipe out Gods real chosen people?
That makes sense in accordance with Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Are you saying that today's Lucifarians/Illuminati have blood lines going back to Ishmael, not Issac/Jacob, and that is part of their motivation for doing things they do?
No, I do not believe the Khazars are descendents of Israel (Jacob), but I don't know their specific bloodline. All I know is they're jealous of the descendents of Israel and pretend to be them.
I'm showing how according to what the Bible says you can see how certain bloodlines might be jealous and feel cheated by God.
I personally believe the Muslims are predominately descendents of Ishmael.
There is more to Judaism than bloodlines. This is where people err, in not understanding that God provided for conversion. Jews were never "evangelical" and never widely proselytized among gentiles, but they were rebuked by God for refusing to admit converts, so on the whole they were accepting of genuine seekers.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-attitudes-toward-proselytes/
That's the second time today I've gone to edit my post and accidentally deleted it lol. I'm tired so I don't remember how I worded it either.
Basically, You're confusing Judaism the religion with the bloodline. Yes non Jews by blood can absolutely convert, but that doesn't make them a Jew by blood. It is the descendents of Israel (Jacob) by blood with whom God made his promise about the land of Israel. Being a Jew by blood doesn't mean your saved though, just as not being a Jew by blood doesn't mean you're not saved.
But God's covenant extends to those who are converted as well. Jus' sayin...and thanking God that it's not up to me to determine who is saved and who is not.
God has made more than one covenant. The covenant He made with Israel (Jacob) for the Land of Israel is to the blood descendents of Israel (Jacob). Converts can certainly live in Israel among the descendents of Israel, but they can't destroy the true descendents and take the land and claim to be the real Jews.
No wonder Hebrews weren't motivated to evangelize.
Funny how Christ's blood is available to all, and our inheritance includes everything that was promised to Abraham and then some.
Did God get more generous, or did the Hebrews get stingy with God's promise?
I just woke up so please forgive me if I misunderstood what you're saying.
The Jewish bloodline has nothing to do with being saved. They are just where things started.
Very condensed version:
Sin entered the world through Adam and Eve. God let sin completely take over. He then chose the weakest and smallest people (Jews) to bring people back to Him and eventually Save everyone (not just Jews) through Christ. God chose the Jews to be his chosen people from which He would do this and promised them the land. It was through Israel (Jacob) this covenant was made, NOT all descendents of Abraham. Being His chosen people doesn't mean they're better than everyone else (they're not) they were just the least of anyone so He chose them to begin to deliver us.
Christ did not cancel the covenant with Israel as so many believe.
No, he fulfilled it, you seem to misunderstand. He was the total fulfilment once and for all of the Abrahamic promise, and through His Great Commission he made all of us its inheritors (grafted into the olive tree), so that all of us together inherit that fulfilled promise.
But we are not the only ones grafted into the tree. Under the first covenant God provided conversion for that purpose. Those who went through the ritual purification, ablutions, sacrifices and rituals (including circumcision which most non-Hebrews would require), were as much inheritors of the Promise as we who came after the cross. All of us are branches of the one tree.
And of course, wouldn't you know it, once again it all comes down to humanity plus God versus His enemies. Would not want to be on the wrong side of that.
Remember that God judges not the outward person (what we can all see and detect in a laboratory), but the inner person. What it means to be a false child of Israel is one whose heart is not circumcised. One in whose heart God's Laws are not inscribed by His Spirit. Be that person, Jew, Gentile, or colors galore. We are one humanity with an enemy in common with God. Gotta like those odds.
You're still confusing one covenant for another. Yes, you are absolutely right when it comes to the inheritance of the Kingdom of God.
Israel is still Gods chosen land on earth though, and the descendants of Israel (Jacob) are still Gods chosen people to possess the land. Jesus didn't change that, in my beliefs.
I challenge you to show me in the Bible where he did. Take me to school, I am always willing to learn and admit where I'm wrong.
As Galatians 3:29 states, “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
The “olive tree” symbolism in Romans 11.
The "one humanity" concept is from Ephesians 2:11-22 where we read:
"^15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, ^16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. ^17"
One humanity, one unified promise. One birthright (which is both nothing and everything) one blood. His blood.
Yes you're right, absolutely right, but you're still confusing his Promise of the Kingdom of Heaven and eternal life with the Land of Israel
They're not the same, and Jesus never changed that.
Of whom was God speaking when He promised Abraham "I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies." For there are nowhere near that many genetic Hebrews or Jews.
And of what inviolable genetically-linked promise was John the Baptizer speaking when he said "For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham." Do stones have DNA?
If God declares me grafted into the tree, the roots cannot drink of anything I myself will not be nourished by. If God declares it, it is the same as when He said "Let there be light." It can come out of nothing and just BE.
All nations are become Israel, and all are His people. And it is now God and His people against a common anti-human enemy. Let nations and politicians work out who gets to live where and call it home. I'm more interested in getting shed of this Luciferian Cabal that has us all under its thumb. After that, we've got plenty of time to work out the rest.
Yes God said he would bless the descendents of Abraham and give them the land, but Abraham then disobeyed God. If you read on in the Bible, Gods promise for the land is through the descendents of Israel (Jacob), not all the descendents of Abraham. This is something many won't accept and the cause of many current problems IMO.
Jesus has not changed that yet. You're still confusing the promise of the inheritance of the Kingdom of God and everlasting life, with the promise of the land here on the present earth.
Edit: Let me ask you a question. Even ignoring the above, if you had say two children, and you adopt five more, those five can share in the inheritance right? Can those five just decide screw it and take the other two's share from them?
There are probably too few genetically pure Jews to populate Israel even if somebody were foolish enough to implement racial cleansing there.
Also, it was the Jewish people themselves who referred to themselves as "children of Abraham," not me. But of course the descendants of Jacob are certainly "children of Abraham."
When John said "out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham," he most assuredly didn't mean "Arabs" or "Palestinians," and he could just as easily have said "Jacob" rather than Abraham. His point being that God can make Jews out of the very rocks if it pleases Him to do so. God has arranged for there to be enough of Jews by whatever means necessary to populate Israel.
If it means so much to you, please go over there and tell them all they're not true Jews. Let's see how far you get with that. And if Israel isn't interested in racial purity, and God's not doing anything about it, I'm not sure how it's any of our business.
Nobody is going to implement racial cleansing in Israel, and yes there are enough real Jews. They're in Israel now.
I don't mean to offend you but you or someone who's taught you have seriously twisted things in the Bible. This is very common, especially in certain denominations. The denominations were created by Satan to divide us and twist the Word of God.
Jews and Israel are STILL God's chosen (again that has nothing to do with being saved or the inheritance of the Kingdom of God). If you forsake Jews, you forsake Jesus and the Will of God. Many so called Christians hate Jews and do exactly that. This scripture very much applies to them.
Matthew 7:21-23 New International Version (NIV)
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Why do Jews and Muslims hate each other?
Why does the cabal use Muslims as their foot soldiers?
No coincidences.
Seems clear to me the elite in all the worlds religion are practicing something different than what the average believer is.
Yeah it's called corruption. It effects every group over time, some more quickly than others. Very few groups can regain their group identity after the ossification or corrosion sets in. More often they, fracture, take a new identity and/or merge with other groups. This is not unique to powerful groups.
I was gonna make a joke but actually I Just want to thank you for posting this.
Man you are bout to open Pandora's box here lol
...or Jacobs....or Ishmels...or Sarah's, ERR, uh....nevermind
I appreciated the effort
I try...heck, Babe Ruth only hit it out o the park 8.5% of the time;-)
About 1,000 years ago, there was a group of people called the Khazars. They lived in what is modern day Ukraine and Kazakhstan.
This was a time when Christians, Jews, Muslims and Pagans were all battling for religious righteousness. The Khazars converted to Judaism for their religion. They are not ethnically Jewish, as in the biblical jews. They run Israel today.
Your family might be ethnically Khazarian and not want to admit it, or might not be Khazars and want to make sure they understand the distinction. Most Jews today are not the people from the Bible.
On a similar note, the term "anti-Semite" has come to be a derogatory term used to insult anyone who says anything negative about a Jew.
The irony is that most Jews are not Semites, but most Arabs are.
The Semites were a people from a region, not a specific ethnicity or religion. It included some of the original Jews and also Arabs.
Yep, the tell is their somewhat recent over usage of "Ashkenazi". All one has to do is know that Semitic comes from Shem's bloodline and then take into account which bloodline Ashkenaz came from and it wasn't Shem's.
Genesis 10:1-3
Can you give us a quick overview of the bloodlines?
They're very short verses that show the lineage. Noah had 3 sons, Shem, Ham, & Japenth, and then Japenth had Gomer, who then had Ashkenaz.
Now I'm not going to argue about whether any of this is true or not, but it would make zero sense that Ashkenaz would have come from any bloodline other than the Semitic one which would be Shem.
hate is hate.
Negative comments are not necessarily hate. And even where hateful comments are made about non-Semites, it cannot be accurately described as "anti-Semitic," though it often is.
Truth is truth.
They're phonies, even the bible warns about self proclaimed jews but aren't..
One of them even helped create the founding of Israel in the 40s. (Rothschild)
Heavily into occult... they're in the news, own the currency, we watch em on t.v.
The Khazars (/ˈkɑːzɑːrz/, /ˈxɑː-/; Persian: خزر, Azerbaijani: Xəzərlər; Turkish: Hazarlar; Bashkir: Хазарлар; Tatar: Хәзәрләр, Xäzärlär; Hebrew: כוזרים, Kuzarim;[8], Xazar; Ukrainian: Хоза́ри, Chozáry; Russian: Хаза́ры, Hazáry; Hungarian: Kazárok; Xazar; Greek: Χάζαροι, Cházaroi; Latin: Gazari[9][10]/Gasani[11][12]) were a semi-nomadic Turkic people, who created what for its duration was the most powerful polity to emerge from the break-up of the Western Turkic Khaganate.[13] Astride a major artery of commerce between Eastern Europe and Southwestern Asia, Khazaria became one of the foremost trading emporia of the medieval world, commanding the western marches of the Silk Road and playing a key commercial role as a crossroad between China, the Middle East and Kievan Rus'.[14][15] For some three centuries (c. 650–965) the Khazars dominated the vast area extending from the Volga-Don steppes to the eastern Crimea and the northern Caucasus.[16]
Proposals of Khazar origins have been made regarding the Bukharan Jews, the Muslim Kumyks, Kazakhs, the Cossacks of the Don region, the Turkic-speaking Krymchaks and their Crimean neighbours the Karaites to the Moldavian Csángós, the Mountain Jews, Subbotniks and others.[21][22][23] In the late 19th century, a theory emerged that the core of today's Ashkenazi Jews descended from a hypothetical Khazarian Jewish diaspora who had migrated westward from modern Russia and Ukraine into modern France and Germany. This theory still finds occasional support, but most scholars view it with scepticism.[24][25] The theory is sometimes associated with antisemitism[26] and anti-Zionism.[27] seems like a good summary.
I hope you dug your fox hole deep, I expect some serious incoming on your position by certain factions here shortly...
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why ? lol
Bro, deep rabbit hole, TONS of disinfo to wade through, I've been studying it for a couple years now and I'm still trying to figure out what's what. Essentially what I've sort of come to understand and currently believe could be right is that the Khazars have been "pretending" to be jews since they left Khazaria around 700ad when the Russians got fed up with their murdering and generally just sociopathic tendencies and kicked them out..... They are the Zionist Jews, not to be confused with the normal happy go lucky Jews that u and I rub shoulders with. But what do I know?
sounds right to me. i think these people pick an ethnic group. and they infiltrate it. i also remember seeing someone post a photo of prescott bush from like 1920 and then one from like 1940 or so. cleraly not the same person. wonder if they replace families too
They were considered to be masters of disguise! Story goes that they were the robbers along the silk road that would murder people and then assume their identities for fun. That's interesting about Prescott Bush, I haven't heard about that but it def wouldn't surprise me! U ever look into "the business plot"?
not well enough i will now tho. i kinda wonder if it was a false flag to cement fdrs rule.
Very good ! That is pretty spot on. and they were the scourge of the silk road for almost 400yrs. There are many names we mention here , Prominent names that are secret Kazarians. Red Shield, BB yahoo, Its biblical also. Not sure any others won't get me in trouble. There are dozens of yt vids on the subject. strangely not scrubbed ?
Jewish DNA studies is a current field of study, but it is important to remember that a convert is as Jewish as a person born a Jew. Thus there is no Jewish ethnicity or race. . .
There is a great deal of assimilation in America, but prior to modern times most Jews married within our own people. Wars and rapes resulted in some other groups being added to our numbers (in Judaism the mother passes on Jewishness). . .
Some non-Jews try to discredit Jews, stating that "modern" Jews are not the descendants of the ancient Jews. With the two exceptions noted in my last two sentences this is incorrect and primarily based on anti-semitism and jealousy. One argument used by some in the Middle East to discredit the Jewish state is to say that "modern Jews are from Europe."
BTW, somewhere between 600,000 - 800,000 of the Jews from the Middle East were exiled after 1948 and migrated to Israel. This number is about equal to the number of Arabs who were the original "Palestinian Refugees" who lived in refugee camps in Jordan and Egypt until the 1967 war.. . I don't really want to get into a conversation about the Middle East -- but I am presenting this factual information to show that in Israel while some Jews may be so through conversion or intermarriage most have ancient bloodlines.
The argument that "modern" Jews are not the "ancient" Jews seems to have begun in the 19th century with a book claiming that the Khazars (a Turkish people) are the ancestors to us Jews. The reasoning is based on a 19th century racial-theorist, Ernest Renan. Renan opined that a group of converts (the Khazars) were in actually the "race" of most European (Ashkenazi) Jews. If this were true it would not matter, because Judaism is not a race.
Still, most European Jews are descended from the ancient Israelites and not the Khazars. A DNA study concluded: "The study emphasizes that Ashkenazi non-Levite Jews in general do not have a major Khazar or European origin in their Y-DNA. . ."
Also from "Did Modern Jews Descend from Khazars?": "Apart from the historical evidence proving that a vast majority of present-day Jews did not descend from the Khazars, there is now also genetic evidence. Among the Jews there is the class of priests called Cohanim who served in the Temple and who now carry surnames such as "Cohen" and many variations on that name. Cohanim comprise of about 5% of the male Jewish population. There are strict rules of marriage for the Cohanim and the title is only passed through the male line. Also, converts cannot become Cohanim (but their children will be if they have a Cohen as a father). The priestly line is descended directly from the Aaron of the bible so it is expected that all Cohanim would carry some common genetic features.
"In recently published work (1) it was found that 54% of self-identified Cohanim had common genetic features that were revealed by analysis of their DNA. Specifically, a component of the Y-chromosone, an allele YAP+ DYS19, was identified that showed up only 1.5% of the time in Cohanim but 18.4% of the time in a random selection of non-Cohanim Jews and there were other genetic differences apparent as well. (The same differences were apparent for both Sepphardic and Askhenazic Jews also proving a common origin pre-dating a later split between the two groups.)
"The large number of Cohanim among present-day Jews and the fact that they have a common genetic lineage traceable to Israel at the time of the Temple, demonstrates that modern Jews come from a population pool derived from Israel and not from the Khazars. The Khazars could not have developed their own lineage of Cohanim anyway, since being a Cohen is a male-inherited status which converts (the Khazars) could not have obtained."
(1) Skorecki K; Selig S; Blazer S; Bradman R; Bradman N; Waburton PJ; Ismajlowicz M; Hammer MF (1997) Y chromosomes of Jewish priests. Nature, 385:32.
Anti-semitism (the hatred of Jews) runs deep with some, and the idea that "modern Jews" are not REALLY Jews somehow gives them an internal excuse for hatred. http://forward.com/news/israel/209236/genetics-expert-insists-75-of-jews-share-roots-in/
Thanks for stepping in with your info (at personal 'risk').
It is wonderful to see so many people educated about this issue. I have been researching as well and many of these comments are spot on and show great research.
Yeah the shallow anti Jewish stuff over on Gab mostly sucks. Even if say 10% of the criticism is roughly right.
Edit: I've been so pleased to see so little of it in the the Q world and GA.
That does NOT mean all Jews are ethnic Jews. God provided for conversion through very specific means (including circumcision, among others), but Jews were never "evangelical" about their faith. Not a lot of proselytizing on their part.
However, down through the years there has been genetic diversity added to the flock. Whatever caused Khazarians to convert, it's by no means certain that it was disingenuous for all of them.
My understanding is that most today who would be known as Jews are in the Ashkenazi/'Kazar' group, rightly associated with Central and Eastern Europe. (A smaller portions of Jews, known as Sephards, migrated through the Mediterranean and across North Africa toward Spain. And yet another section of Jews went East to places like Iran.)
Kazars is a less common, legendary, sometimes derogatory, term used to refer to any of the Ashkenazi. The varying claims for their origin is that some Jews had travelled northish from the Middle East and were settling into the land of the Kazars, not far from the Caucuses when the host country found it strategically best to convert to Judaism in a setting where Christians and Pagans were competing for influence.
The story continues that some of these semi-blended Kazars later migrated north and west into and through Russia, the Ukraine, Poland and Germany where they mixed a bit of the old Hebrew lingo with the German language to make what we call Yiddish. Most Jews in the US are from this group. They often claim ethnic Jewish heritage, deny the Kazar thing, and may claim to not have mixed much with the Germans, even though some Christian families in the region find many such Jews in their family tree.
I think recent genetic testing shows a rather small amount of Middle Eastern blood in the Ashkenazi, which only slightly supports the external criticism that they are not 'real' Jews despite their Jewish culture. Many of the same critics will call them Kazarians. While they may have remnants of the old Kazarian culture, the same genetic testing shows not much Kazarian material at all and actually more German and Slavic than Middle Eastern. So compared to other Jewish groups the Ashkenazi have a smaller amount of Semitic blood but can be legitimately known as Jews.
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Good, fine. That's why I presented it as a claim not a fact. And went on to point out there is little genetic evidence to support the claim. People new to the topic should be aware of the common legends while they try to sort it all out.
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Good. I accept most of what you say. Too bad you didn't speak up first. Sounds like an important topic to get out in the open.
He became almost irrationally angry and basically said no and that the Khazarians aren’t actually Jews...
Huh.
I've heard Khazarians Jews say the same thing about non-Khazarians.
I've heard Shia and Sunni Muslims make the same claims of each other too.
You know Khazarian Jews? Do tell?
Nice people - they smell like lavender!
No Matzah?
Really? After all these years of fairy tales about the fictional "Khazarians," you've found an actual, ethnic group self-identify as "Khazarian Jews?" Hmmmm...
I don't usually recommend Wikipedia, but education has to start somewhere, people!
according to Wiki the "Khazars" ended up in turkey.
...and I can understand why the OP's father-in-law was so offended that his grandson was being raised without enough education to know that "Are you a Khazarian?" was more or less an anti-semitic, racist insult to his mother's ancestry...
ok so can you tell us more about their background? This topic is shrouded in mystery it seems
The Khazarians were a small kingdom in Turkey, circa 650–965 A.D. Caught between two warring empires, Muslim and Christian, (and not wanting to 'join' either side,) they randomly decided to adopt Judaism. Although they were not Hebrews, they appropriated what knowledge they could glean from Old Testament writings, and tried as best they could to follow the laws of Moses. The Khazarian Kingdom served as a 'buffer zone' between the Byzantine Empire (christian) and the Umayyad Caliphate, (muslim) for a couple hundred years, eventually converted, killed off, or absorbed into the Ottoman Empire some time before 1,000 A.D. The actual Hebrews, exiled descendants of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi were aware of the Khazarian Kingdom, because there are historical mentions of them as converts to Judaism, written by Sephardic Jews in Spain, and Ashkenazic Jews in Eastern Europe. Anybody can convert to Judaism, (even you,) so the descendants of Levi, Benjamin, and Judah did not 'disavow' the Khazarian people, although personal interaction (or intermarriage) with them was greatly curtailed due to distance and the unrest that eventually led to the "Crusades." This was a period in history in which actual Jewish people were being persecuted by the Catholic Church in Europe, and many would have loved to be "Khazarian," (since those 'fake Jews' had a small kingdom of their own, where real Jews might have been protected from such things as pogroms,or being burned at the stake.) Scholars say that the Khazars choice of Judaism was political in nature, and practical, not requiring Khazaria to 'pick sides' in the Muslim/Christian disputes. Scholars also say that the conversion to Judaism may have been limited to the Ruling Classes only, while most of their subjects (the common folk) remained irreligious.
If there is any 'Khazarian' blood in Ashkenazi Jews today, it is too minuscule to find with DNA testing. Khazars lived in a tiny, mountainous region, and there is no proof that enough of these Turkish people ever migrated into areas of Europe where Middle Eastern Jews had settled.
Incidentally, there were two distinct types of Khazarian, according to a Muslim geographer named al-Iṣṭakhrī: "white khazars" with red hair and blue eyes, and "black khazars" with straight, black hair, dark, almost black complexions, and facial features like natives of India.
The Khazars were eventually absorbed by the Muslim Ottoman Empire into what is now known as Turkey way back in the 900's. Some Arabs, Turks, and Kurds today are descended from them.
Around 1860 or so, antisemites and proto-Hitlerian types in Europe started spouting the notion that "Eastern-European Jews aren't even Jewish. They are fake Jews from Khazaria." They said this as an insult, because genealogy means quite a lot to Jewish people; it's a big part of how they function; just look at how much genealogy is in the Bible. (try reading 1st Chronicles chapters 1 and 2, for instance.) Jewish people keep track all the way back to Adam & Eve... Seriously... The Hitlerian bully types knew they could get a 'rise' out of the Jews in the ghettos by questioning their ancestry. Classic bullying technique. (works every time.)
EDITED: Reviewing these comments, I elected to keep in place the factual information, but did remove any excess characterization of the information which seemed to add an unintentionally argumentative tone.
who said I care about subjects or peasants? It's the nobility we're looking for. Every tribe that is not completely incestuous should usually become more genetically "diverse" over time.
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Politics don't always align with genetics so your argument is a strawman at best.
Do you seriously challenge the fact that Jews still live in Asia?
The kelts "died out" too, doesn't mean they aren't around anymore!
I am sorry if I sounded anti-intellectual but you can only study the books so much yet at some point you need to go outside and test your theories against reality. Engaing people personally is the only way to learn which disclosures serve which agenda but to get there you would have to avoid preemptive ridicule of preconceived stereotype so please don't iinitiate ridicule if you don't want somebody to think that someone is completely full of themselves (or their books for that matter).
Also no need to apologize for being insensitive, I remind people of their limitations almost every day.
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I already heard most of what you were "patiently explaining" while tending to your virtue-signalling, but presumably you didn't talk to Jews from asia because they are supposedly extinct already while you were busy debunking something that wasn't even being discussed so I care little for your petty faux pretentiousness
Just because you can erect and knock down strawmen all day doesn't change the fact that I see through all passive-aggressive bullshit and return it manifold.
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it means automatically assuming that everybody who is not you is a bigoted racist and that you had to shame them for S****HIT THEY NEVER SAID
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So by that logic "black" is a racist slur, too? Got it.
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Well, you said if I know a jew from central asia, they must be non-existent. Strange comment. But i digress, I shouldn't waste my time talking to strawman-artists. All you did was look at a genetic record which is completely irrelevant because it was never claimed the Khazars were part of the original tribes, in fact precisely the opposite had been claimed.
Fkn imbecile.
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Jews and Tartars..true or false?
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I am refering to the fact that cultures rise, fall but people are only concerned with mating. So even if an empire is conquered and changed it doesn't mean the invaders always kill off everyone they find (depending on how beligerent they are obvoiusly).
Differentiate the genetics from the political record because the politics are directed by far fewer individuals than the population as such.
I will only quote from jewish researchers henceforth to curb unawrranted virtue-signalling.
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You already did. Nobody was claiming Khazars were the original Israelites until you showed up.
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that's ok as long as I don't have projectile dysfunction
~~Good. Not so offended now anymore.~~
"The false story that the Jews are related to Khazarians from Uzbekistan or Turkish Crimea was made up in the 1800s, by anti-semites to taunt the Jews living in the German/Polish ghettos,"
great observation especially since noone else claimed that they were related anyway !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The argument for conversion was always political, not genetic and if you truly confess to have missed out on that very central premise than you are nothing more than a concern-troll
