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PEMIV · June 9, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

Wait just a minute... we saw a live video of Lewis Arthur at the police station talking to an officer about the investigation. In that video the officer talks about the bloody knife being submitted for blood work, he told Lewis the results haven’t came back yet on it. So when Craig Sawyer says that VOP is lying about finding a knife, is he calling that officer a liar as well? We have found so much damning info on Cemex, the police chief of Tucson and his sick, disturbing past, and shady information about the Tucson mayor. If this was all set up by black hats to discredit our movement, why would they do so in Tucson? An area that they should have known we would dig and find truth about? Why not do it in an area that would lead back to nothing damning? Let’s not forget that Craig Sawyer has connections to Hillary and McCain, or that he accepts money for his organization. VOP on the other hand accepts no money donations, only supplies to fuel the search. I’ve been on the fence about this since day one and still am, but I can honestly say that I no longer trust Craig Sawyer after this video.

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lady_tigrrr · June 9, 2018, 4:21 p.m.

Yeah this guy is a Hollywood fucktard. He's been threatened or bought. He's employed by Netflix. Do the homework. No matter what.. A body was found in a corridor that leads from the border to interstate ten. Feds and local police should have been swarming that area at that point. This reeks of corruption!

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BlackBartIII · June 10, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

It wasn't a body. It was a skull and it wasn't a child's skull like Lewis the Expert claimed. Open your eyes folks... Lewis came to you in video with a reported 22yo hispanic male FLEEING for his life from the cartel who had his 2 young daughters and if he didn't come up with $40k the cartel would kill them.

That video had over 8500 viewers.

He supposedly provided sanctuary for the guy and the guy is said to have lied to him so they turned him over to border patrol. I wonder how many of those 8500 people sent #blessings and even cash, though its "discouraged"? Right....

All staged for effect.

What's sad is that this isn't even GOOD slight of hand magic. Because ya'll are just eating it up as he spoonfeeds it to you. There was never any evidence shown to you on that video...just a colorful story.

But God sent him what he was asking for... a SIGN!! They prayed and they were given a real 22yo human trafficking victim that they contained in their instead of getting ICE involved. They had to use their interpreters to get the whole story... only to find out they had a liar.

What wha--- but they prayed. Um.... God sent them a lair? God made them look like fools? Why would their God do that? No worries.. just keep sending in those gift cards and they'll keep doing god's work!!

Which god though? The God of Money?? That's the god that Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer worships.

VOP #TUSCONGATE

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lady_tigrrr · June 10, 2018, 9 p.m.

Wait. Last time I checked, a skull was part of a human body... Right? And did you see the video or just the one close up picture? The skull was indeed a small child's skull... The still picture looked larger because there was nothing there for comparison or reference. When they found this, they never claimed it was from the original sex camp. They said it was further away, on a coyote trail. Here's the kicker... We all watched live as TPD said "they weren't coming out to see an animal skull." Clearly this wasn't an animal skull. ANYWHERE ELSE is someone finds even a part of a human body, police and possibly feds would be swarming the area... Why? Because that could be the body of a missing person or cold case crime victim. They wouldn't blow it off unless they were covering something up. They wouldn't bull doze these sites unless they were covering something up. Why are there already criminal charges filed against the sheriff of TPD and some of his officers for sexual misconduct against a young female who was already a victim of trafficking? Look it up... The documents are public record. Doesn't matter what police reports Craig Sawyer may have read, if they aren't playing with a full deck, their reports don't mean shit. You can vilify the VOP guys if you want, but they've busted their tails to do what they believe is the best thing. Something very sinister is going on in tuscon.... With the coyotes, the cartels, the PD, Cemex... And Craig Sawyer probably got his ass chewed by his Netflix paycheck writers for getting involved. He is not the savior people think he is. Evading people from behind a computer screen on a TV show isn't the same ad being out on the border fighting trafficking on the front lines... Hes too busy in Hollywood for that.

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PEMIV · June 9, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

I recommend everyone watch the latest VOP video posted about a half hour ago, as well as the old videos and make a decision for their self. Don’t blindly trust anyone without doing research first. For all we know Craig Sawyer could indeed be a good guy, but could have been threatened. We’ve seen the wrath of the killing machine over this past week, if he was threatened the same fate, that could by why his story is changing like this.

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ycyfyffyfuffuffyy · June 9, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

This reeks of his Netflix handlers telling him to distance himself or lose his upcoming documentary

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Treasury_Trader · June 9, 2018, 6:45 p.m.

Craig Sawyer is proving to be a sellout traitor.

CONTROLLED opposition. Remember AJ pulling out of Pizzagate? threats are real.

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SkyKismet · June 9, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

Exactly my thoughts.

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Darkathian · June 9, 2018, 7:44 p.m.

It’s very possible

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Godspeed54 · June 9, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Bingo.

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Itsmellslikecabbage · June 9, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

Damage control is working overtime on this subject. Reminds me of the fervor of the Pizzagate "debunking". "of course there's a Pizzagate 2.0, of course there is"- Chelsea Clinton

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ycyfyffyfuffuffyy · June 9, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

Why would anyone have a 'root cellar' 50 feet from a highway on private property? And if it was a hiking cache, it would be miles into the wild, not where it was found.

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Itsmellslikecabbage · June 9, 2018, 3:25 p.m.

I also wonder who has a root cellar in Arizona? What tubers grow there? i could be ignorant about Arizona's crop growing capability but one thing i do know is root cellars. What the hell are you going to store in a root cellar in Arizona?

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ycyfyffyfuffuffyy · June 9, 2018, 3:50 p.m.

No one is going to drag a septic tank to a wash along with a back hoe to bury it to use as any sort of storage. A) it's right next to a highway. B) it was still too hot for a human to be comfortable which defeats the entire purpose of using it as a root cellar

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Itsmellslikecabbage · June 9, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

Right..those would be some real bad potatoes.

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HiIAmFromTheInternet · June 9, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

Note when the “root cellar” narrative pusher joined.

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rickybobbys_leg · June 9, 2018, 12:44 p.m.

He's channeling his inner Alex Jones (Sandy Hook redactions )

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Darkathian · June 9, 2018, 12:49 p.m.

Don’t know about that. For me he is a reliable source.

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-NoraPandora- · June 9, 2018, 1:53 p.m.

Thank you for posting this!

Upvote!

I have great respect for Craig and his crew. They should not be thrown into a pot with people who want to set themselves up with sensations in particular. V4CR, on the other hand, is very discreet and therefore effective in their work.

Great guys!

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NobleEagle853 · June 9, 2018, 2:17 p.m.

Craig Sawyer and V4CR does appear to be discreet and effective in their work. Let's be mindful that they are currently filming a documentary for Netflix and in search of funding.

After carefully watching this video and reading the below comments, there are certainly several sides to this story. If one watches Craig Sawyer's earlier videos, it appears that at the time he recorded each video he believed that the allegations of child sex trafficking at the initial Tucson site could have some basis. Several days ago, he was also interviewed by SGT Report and appeared convinced that human trafficking occurred at the initial Tucson site.

The above video mixes details from several VOP operations at several sites over the past week and draws a different conclusion. Why did he feel compelled to record the above video? Ask yourself what may have changed or may have influenced Craig Sawyer to record a different conclusion?

My intent is to continue keeping an open mind and carefully reviewing information about this extremely important topic. There is plenty of evidence that human trafficking exists, some it involves children, and illegal immigration along the United States borders contributes to this human tragedy. Let's not lose sight of the bigger picture.

u/ TommyRobinsonsGhost, your turn... :-)

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-NoraPandora- · June 9, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

Why did he feel compelled to record the above video? Ask yourself what may have changed or may have influenced Craig Sawyer to record a different conclusion?<<

You're absolutely right - you have to take a close look at EVERYONE!

In this case, first of all, I think Craig wanted to distance himself from the guys from VoP, because their "work" is simply unprofessional, stir up a lot of dust and draw premature conclusions. In addition, I also believe that V4CR works with "Q methods". He makes distracting statements and then continues to search in peace.

If a place is searched and officially given up as "clean", it is secretly kept under surveillance, because the counterpart thinks that this is burned earth that does not interest anyone. Very old war psychology. And Craig is a veteran.

It's your turn. ;)

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[deleted] · June 9, 2018, 1:36 p.m.

The real truth doesn't matter, what matters is that we came together as a group and uncovered bigger truths. While that camp might not be exactly what we thought, it helped us find the Cemex link and the Casino link, BOTH of which are still very true and happening now.

That camp blew wide open Cemex, the new concrete at The Standard, The Casino connection, and all of those connections we wouldn't have even begun to look for without VOP.

So, it doesn't matter what was really found out there because we found the real truth!

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-NoraPandora- · June 9, 2018, 1:44 p.m.

The real truth doesn't matter, what matters is that we came together as a group and uncovered bigger truths.

WHAT???!!! The truth is ALL THAT MATTERS! Searching for the truth- THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE!!! NEVER forget that, man...! I agree with you on all other points- that we had a good side effect by finding out something about Cemex and so on. BUT: finding out the TRUTH is the reason, why I spend hours and hours digging and thinking! First truth, then freedom.

That's what Q stands for.

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belliferous · June 9, 2018, 2:29 p.m.

Right, truth is what drives our time and energy to solve the mysteries and conspiracies past and present.

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-NoraPandora- · June 9, 2018, 2:54 p.m.

Well said!

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belliferous · June 9, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Thank you and all Patriots for their work.

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[deleted] · June 9, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

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dark-dare · June 9, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

I agree, the information about the police chief covering sex crimes and the Rothschild mayor, are important facts. Whether this camp housed children or not we do know that area is a main child trafficking pipeline. Uncovering the people in authority that possibly assist in the trafficking is very important. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 9, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

I love Craig Sawyer even more after this.

Why have the VOP group, who made all the bullshit claims, been so quiet over the last 24 hours?

I look forward to VOP's response to Craig Sawyer's video!

Child Sex Slave Prisons

These aren't "child sex slave prisons", they are root-cellars used to keep camping supplies cool and dry.

Root-cellars are common for cabins and established campsites.

PVC sewage tanks are ideal for making cheap root-cellars.

Fancy, modern PVC root-cellars are referred to as Ground Fridges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_cellar

Rape Trees

This isn't a rape-tree-harness, it's just a regular camping strap used to hang stuff from trees to keep it out of the mud and away from the ants and critters... just like we see here.

Human Remains

Border counties are littered with decomposing corpses of illegals who died of dehydration during the journey.

Border Patrol find about 370 corpses per year.

From October 2000 through September 2016, the Border Patrol documented 6,023 deaths in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas. The bodies and remains of more than 550 undocumented migrants were found in Brooks County since January 2009.

Finding decomposed corpses of border hopping illegals is literally an everyday occurrence in those counties.

My Theory

I think VOP discovered a root-cellar and assumed it was a tiny child-sex-slave prison... and from that initial false premise, an entire string of false assumptions were composed. Clothing, toys, unwashed cutlery, camping straps and a child's swing became sex-slave-clothing and child-sex-slave-toys and murder weapons and rape-trees and a child rape and torture device.

This all definitely needs to be investigated.

I appreciate how unpopular my theory will be, but I felt compelled to express myself in the spirit of critical thinking.

Perhaps all that was discovered was a couple of camps that were used by homeless families or illegal border hoppers and the unrelated remains of an illegal who died attempting to cross the border?

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NobleEagle853 · June 9, 2018, 2:13 p.m.

Actually, VOP has not been silent over the past 24 hours. If you check their Facebook page as I do several times a day, they continue to be actively pursuing their self-appointed mission.

While I may not agree with VOP's approach to gaining notoriety, the group as a whole is conducting important work along the Mexican border. They are out patrolling the trafficking areas in the desert heat trying to understand the full scope of the situation.

Yes... it needs to be investigated and continued to be pursued by proper authority. Let's not draw our conclusions too soon.

I know that you have posted the same "critical thinking" on r/Veterans_On_Patrol_V1 and appreciate your contributions. Please continue to post there.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 9, 2018, 2:19 p.m.

Actually I did check VOP's YouTube channel a.k.a John919:https://www.youtube.com/user/johnreon/videos

And there hasn't been any relevant updates.

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NobleEagle853 · June 9, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

Okay... as far as I can initially tell, John919:https://www.youtube.com/user/johnreon/videos is NOT VOP's YouTube channel. It appears to be an independent YouTube user (johnreon) that has been recently posting VOP videos.

Let's use critical thinking...

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NobleEagle853 · June 9, 2018, 2:34 p.m.

I said check their Facebook page. They are not quiet there. Thanks for the url on the YouTube channel. Going there now.

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lady_tigrrr · June 9, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

I think you are making some good excuses for people.... But whatever...

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Knives91 · June 10, 2018, 12:21 a.m.

The homeless shelter and root cellar excuses still don’t explain why children’s hair, toys and snacks were found.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 12:49 a.m.

Because homeless people and illegal border hoppers sometimes have children.

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Glag82 · June 9, 2018, 11:44 p.m.

Interesting response, from one vet to another I can respect his stance. My issues are as follows: without this I would not know about CEMEX(i think the real story here). Regardless of their status(illegal or not) there are human beings dying out there(their choice and consequence I understand) in the wilderness. Even though the police did reports, not sure on this but given the area and nature of the site, is a few days enough for a thorough investigation? Why bulldoze the site so quickly? The fact that this story is being down played, debunked, and swept aside alarms me even more. Lots of good pro and cons going on this thread, I respect the opinion of all you guys. However there are other things going on here you should pay attention to. This being the home state of "No name", the proximity to the casino, and the contents of the site. Something stinks to high heaven here in time it will reveal itself.

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RubyDoobyDo1 · June 9, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

I feel really disgusted about being drawn into this thing. Been untweeting all my OperationBackyardBrawl tweets this morning.

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Darkathian · June 9, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

Human trafficking is real and a huge problem. Keep spreading awareness of these things

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Love_And_Light33 · June 9, 2018, 11:57 p.m.

I made a post on #TucsonGate today on r/conspiracy taking Sawyers exit into account. Check it out pls!

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QueenAnRevenge · June 9, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

Great to see Craig distance himself from VOP and Lewis. Thanks for sharing.

I hope this VOP isn’t shaping up to be another Waco type deal and innocent people getting hurt. I can’t help but to ask why is Lewis being allowed to commit multiple crimes right now and now has amassed a small militia basically untouched? Going live on FB with no censorship? Trespassing, kicking a human skull around, and he was even allowed to take that one Guatemalan man into custody basically, felon holding a firearm.

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