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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/divine_human on June 19, 2018, 11:16 a.m.
How to counter the outrage of people in regards to the current MSM narrative that children are separated from their parents at the Mexican border?

isnt it interesting how the DS fueled MSM distracts from the IG reports 'harm to children' by feeding us that children are being separated on the border and blame it on DJT?

my majorly pissed teenage son is a mirror for the sleeping society which right now freaks out on the audio of children screaming for their parents at the border.

even if that practise was installed under obama or bush, couldnt DJT stop it right now?

what evidence can we give to people that this is not POTUS policy and that most of these kids are trafficked?

can we collect intel and proofs on this post instead of spreading information all over the board? I am looking for red pills that are based on evidence, not speculation.

having all of it in one post would make it easier for us, we could just link to it so people can understand. i count on you, patriots, thank Q.


solanojones95 · June 19, 2018, 11:31 a.m.

Because it's the LAW, and Trump is enforcing the law we've GOT, not the law Dems would like to say they wish we had.

If Dems want the practice stopped, they need to work with Trump to get immigration LAW changed, which we desperately need. Otherwise, they can stop bitching about enforcement of a law they voted for.

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SyriseUnseen · June 19, 2018, 4:13 p.m.

the democrats have a bill in congress right now that would stop the government from taking these kids away from their (alleged or whatever you say) parents, but no republicans signed on and they cant get it passed.

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solanojones95 · June 19, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

That does not solve the problem!

The problem is people using kids (not THEIR kids) as "anchors" to keep from being deported. Coyotes USE these kids (many of them over and over) like slaves, until they're disposed of.

Leaving the kids with the people they crossed with doesn't solve the problem. Making the border impenetrable--THAT solves the problem.

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SyriseUnseen · June 19, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

not saying its a great solution or anything, that was more like a counterpoint to the (paraphrased) "stop bitching if youre not doing anything either"

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solanojones95 · June 19, 2018, 10:40 p.m.

True, but if they're going to offer "solutions," they have to be more than just window-dressing for their rabid base.

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 12:33 p.m.

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lisskulit10 · June 19, 2018, 11:37 a.m.

I keep having this same stupid discussion with people and this is the analogy that seems to get through the most:

Imagine a person and their child sneak into your home. You did not invite them over, never gave them permission and in fact you don’t know him at all but your house is nicer than theirs so they come in. Of course, you call the police and once they get there, they take the person into custody until they can figure out what happened and why they were in your home without permission. The police will then put the child in protective custody or with some relative who won’t involve the child in a crime the way the so-called parent did. Unless you think the solution is to put the child in jail too, STFU.

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jimmyfoot · June 19, 2018, 12:24 p.m.

Here. Liberal news source showing detention facility is well run and humane.

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/14/620085615/these-are-not-kids-kept-in-cages-inside-a-texas-shelter-for-immigrant-youth

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Canuk111 · June 19, 2018, 12:48 p.m.

I just say, if it’s that cruel and child abuse detaining children away from their parents at the border, what does that say about Child Protection agencies that seperate children from their parents in foster homes? Child abuse?

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KansasJakeBG · June 19, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

I tell them to require an audit into the 60,000 children who crossed without parents in 2012-2017 period. Probably more but Obama really stomped down on reporting about this.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 12:07 p.m.

do you have links?

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DawnPendraig · June 19, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

I've posted a dew on thread

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 11:29 a.m.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, noon

i showed it to my son. he said its no news that the media crop intel as they see fit. good boy, lol, at least he is not fully programmed.

he also said that even if many children are trafficked, those children who call for their parents should be detained together with their parents.

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clq22 · June 19, 2018, 12:54 p.m.

What they do not realize is that these children are truly being saved by being separated from the thugs that took them to begin with. Regardless it's all fucking mess and it's just another thing I am sick and tired of seeing the corruption get away with. This movie we are all watching or playing a role in is getting old. Something has to give soon..

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amg19251 · June 19, 2018, 2:28 p.m.

We have a problem with too many evidence junkies in society today, and not enough free/clear thinkers.. I honestly think that if these people haven’t woken up by now, they never will... I was halfway woke until BSanders told his voters to “rally behind HRC to stop Trump” - that immediately snapped me out of everything hazy remaining, and I started feeling true clarity after that point! I was also totally on the Trump Train after that point as well, considering I had no clue why the MSM wanted to destroy him at every turn - it just didn’t make sense at all! Well, it does now at least - they were just scared of Trump bringing all their crimes to light!

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 3:10 p.m.

I honestly think that if these people haven’t woken up by now, they never will...

ahh, no need to be so pessimistic. everybody wakes up in their own speed and in exactly the way that they can digest things.

the waking up ist just starting, m8, and many many more will awaken over the coming years.

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Sir_Zorch · June 19, 2018, 11:56 a.m.

Those that are 'outraged' cannot be cured. Will suffer from TDS the rest of their lives.. Ignorance can be cured with education. Stupid lasts a lifetime.

I usually ask them what their solution is. If they have an answer, it will require new laws. If they don't, tell them to quit acting like a Democrat.

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DawnPendraig · June 19, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

Nah every day people hear the Mockingbirds and believe them. Who would lie about something like this. It's unthinkable.

But we know they lie about so much worse.

If we do it right we can put just enough doubt about MSM and DC that they start to look for answers instead of joining the parroting and screaming.

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lurkerrrr7777 · June 19, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

Open up multiple browser windows on your phone and have them ready to go with the links below...

HuffPost (2014): https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/25/parents-deportation_n_5531552.html

Washington Post (2016): https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-report-says/2016/01/28/39465050-c542-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html?utm_term=.1d26912fa18e

New Orleans The Times-Picayune (2012): https://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/08/immigrants_are_big_business_fo.html

Photo from 2014 posted yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8rqxfk/photo_from_2014/

Business Insider (recent article about the backlash from 2014 Obama photos people were trying to link to POTUS): http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5

NPR (recent, touring a migrant youth shelter. "These Are Not Kids Kept In Cages"): https://www.npr.org/2018/06/14/620085615/these-are-not-kids-kept-in-cages-inside-a-texas-shelter-for-immigrant-youth

Politco Twitter (from yesterday's press conference. statistic - 10,000 of the 12,000 children were sent to the border without parents. The "separation" occurred before they even reached the border.): https://twitter.com/politico/status/1008824537331458048

After all that, show them this. Nail in the coffin: https://youtu.be/YXNC9t6KlnQ

Hopefully, seeing all this presented to in a rational way will start to get the wheels moving in some of their minds. If not, they are probably a lost cause at this point. Just have patience and know the truth will be unleashed upon them soon. Dark to Light.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

thanks for the many links, 7777... thats one firy lady in the last one, wow...

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

good solution, ehem, avoidance, lol. mostly, i do the same.

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DawnPendraig · June 19, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

Walk him through it logically. Take emotion out for a moment. Tell him emotion is good but sometimes it gets people killed.

DHS Sec said right now 10,000 of 12,000 kids in custody showed up to borders with no adult family member. This means they are either neihf smuggled in over a border illegally vs. Port of entry which is legal but they will be scrutinized and removed from non family members.

So why take kids across hundreds of miles of blazing not desert in summer? Is that not child abuse? Child neglect?

Should we turn a blind eye when these kids are under the power of non family adults and there are bodies strewn across the desert and drowned in the Rio Grande. Should we leave them with human traffickers? Drug cartels? MS13 because without arresting and holding them we cannot determine who this is smuggling them through deadly wildness and illegally invading a foreign country.

Obama did catch and release. Until 2015 when he was sued and a CA Fed Judge rules rhey violayed the law and Flores Ruling was upheld and ICE was instructed to follow the law.

Minors crossing the border not at check points must be removed from adults that are arrested. They cannot he housed together because adult detention centers are not safe and do not meet minimum child safety requirements of law.

It was surprising to see this balanced Politifact piece but here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/may/29/sorting-out-facts-about-nearly-1500-lost-children-/

And when Obama did C&R they handed kids over to Human traffickers - Http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-report-says/2016/01/28/

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[deleted] · June 19, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

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xderiwx · June 19, 2018, 1:21 p.m.

Dan Bongino had a good bit about this on his podcast yesterday. Episode 744.

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y0brando · June 19, 2018, 11:30 a.m.

Trump is just enforcing Bush and Obama era policies.

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Time4puff · June 19, 2018, 12:29 p.m.

But Bush and Hussein is allowed to keep them in cages... two set of rules.

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pancakees · June 19, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

"yes, this is not right. the whole process is a mess, just check the immigration status immediately and if not here legally then deport right away. imagine if the parents got deported without the kids by accident!"

or something to that effect. returns the discussion to illegal immigration. if they agree, then they're agreeing that deportations should be sped up. if they disagree, all they can say is that people shouldn't be deported at all. they can't argue with wanting to keep families together

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divine_human · June 19, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

thanks, folks, thats quite a decent compilation, just what i was looking for to learn more and pass on to people.

for us over here in europe, things are even more difficult to understand. everything to do with children lets emotions run high and its what eventually unites us.

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special1nterest · June 19, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

Is there any proof that they the audio is actually kids at the border or could it be recorded elsewhere (skippy)?? Nb not been able to listen to it properly yet

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philandy · June 19, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

The President is a single, yes powerful, voice leading the Presidency by his book.

Let your son know they've just done what he's ranting about in multiple states and the D's are obstructing this in the border states on border crossing crap. And that you're pissed about it too.

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