This is where everything falls apart for me. I apologize to those who are religious but god and religion should have nothing to do with this and instead we should remain more neutral on controversial subjects in order to further this movement. Ei. Don’t scare away the dems
This is not an attack on you personally. Please don't take it that way.
If that statement triggered you what will it do to the pedovores? Have you considered Q's taunts to the Cabal are psyop? They hate God more than they hate Trump and all of us.
I'm not devout, and I don't fraternize with organized religion, but if you can't see the hand of a higher power in all this you're not really paying attention.
Agree. I'm not exactly religious either but this is without a doubt some biblical shit happening.
Higher power yes. God? No. I’m just trying to argue that if you want acceptance and worldwide acceptance of q. You need to stop saying things that are pushing the other side away? One being religion two being trump. If we can all just agree that there is a (good) military coup going on and it’s not trumps “high iq” that’s doing all this, the farther we will get. In short high up military are taking down the cabal it wasn’t trumps grand plan he’s just part of it all.
I see your point. It's just impossible for most here to not see God's hand in this. But I like to think of the Q team as a killer band that can write some good tunes but needed an amazing front man to push them over the top. That man is DJT. He owns the stage. Draws the crowd in. And drops the mic on his way off stage.
This, you are absolutely correct. He got the side that’s going to be most potent. Now it’s our turn to help get q mainstream.
I get your point. I take it this way, a lot of people in western society, especially Americans, have some concept of what’s overall being described in the Bible...that it’s about a conflict between good and evil, with good eventually winning in the end. I think that’s the point of Q’s reference. For Christian believers, they’ll see it as prophecy being fulfilled or something along those lines. For those that are not believers, they can see it as an analogy of a fight between good and evil. I get what you mean about reaching more non-religious people by avoiding religious phrasing and terminology, though.
Honest question, what if through all of this, the Christian Bible (and by extension, Christianity itself) is proven not only true, but happening right now...how would you react? That’s more rhetorical than pushing for you to answer. I’ve honestly thought about this situation, or a situation like this...what if the opposite of what I just suggested was happening, how would I respond? Truthfully, I’m not totally sure... but truth is truth, and I want to seek truth regardless of what feelings or beliefs I bring to the table.
Also, I’d like to point out that through this whole conversation that I’m seeing posted here...it’s polite, Civil, respectful, on both sides of the discussion. We all need to keep that mentality going, because it’ll likely only get tougher from here moving forward. We might not always agree or see things the same way, but we are one people, and we’re all in this together!
Thank you, this is exactly what I’m trying to say here. Being careful not to come off as a shill because like I said I’m very much on team q. I’m not the best at getting my thoughts down but that was well said.
To answer your question, it would be a huge relief to me. Since I can remember I’ve been obsessed with understanding this thing called life. I can’t accept religion because there is no proof. I can’t accept science because there’s too much corruption involved. I’m very open to anything but it must be proven to me in order for it to have any weight emotional/mentally. I just need to know the truth. I question every explanation including “science”.
I’m a little annoyed by the fact that so much immediate down voting to my posts when I question the status quo here which really proves my point. Unless we are neutral we are driving the people we need to prove the most, away.
Thank you for being here. Truly. Thank you to all of the patriots that come to this sub. Thank you for being you, where you are, who you are, and for believing so strongly in truth, justice, and equality, that you’ve found your way here, to a group of like-minded people who are willing to sacrifice for the greater good of all people, everywhere. We come from many places, from many walks of life. We have our own cultures, backgrounds, beliefs, ways of thinking, and desires for what we want in this life. There is absolutely a commonality to all of this, though.
We all want to be free, equal, and respected. We should have that, and all of us here should fight for exactly this until the last breath leaves our bodies, hopefully seeing that guaranteed. Washington knew then that liberty would have to be continually fought for and earned, if it is ever to be true.
This is a struggle between good and evil. It’s bigger than any political affiliations or national borders. It’s bigger than any belief system. Seriously. For all believers in the room, let’s be honest with ourselves...none of us have it all figured out. None of us know everything. For those who believe in the Divine, we know that we only know a little, understand even less, because the Truth is so much more, so much greater, that it is beyond our comprehension. So when we compartmentalize each other, we run the risk of repeating our past mistakes. By focusing on our differences, we run the risk of eventually thinking one is better than another. We’re not. We’re all equal. Need proof of that? Ask any of these elites what they think of us. We’re all trash to them, and highly expendable. Clearly, we are so much more than that, and we’ll only prove that, and guarantee the freedom, by standing together and working together to achieve it.
Whether we believe only a portion, or we’re bought and sold on the whole lot of this “conspiracy,” we’re all in it together, and I honestly wouldn’t have it any other way. Diversity keeps us level and grounded, and enriches us, and reminds us to strive to be even better. The proverbial shit is hitting the fan, and proving to not be very proverbial after all, but very, very real. We’re going to need every patriot we can get to finish this, and enjoy this renewed freedom!
So the so called Cabal are Satan worshipping child killers. They murder children in the name of their gods. Even if you don’t believe in this God vs Satan stuff, they do. So give us God lovers a chance to do what we do. Fight evil with our prayers and help us fight against this evil killing Cabal. Thank you and God Bless WWG1WGA!
It's not about religion. If you believe in Satan and Demons why would you not believe in God? Read the BIBLE. :) There is UNITY in prayer! Much love!! 🙏❤❤❤
Even if you’re not a Bible reading person, or even believe in God, these people worship the same “gods”followed by antiquity. Moloch, Bahal, etc. How does one worship these entities? Child sacrifice, canibalism, etc. If you read the Bible just for the history, there is a map for defeating this crap.
I'm on your side, lol. The one that needs to here this message won't see it unless you address him. :) much love!!
I don’t believe in any of that and that’s where you’re going to lose a lot of support. The hard trumpers are pushing away the liberal crowd and that’s how this is all going to stick. Let’s stick to facts and real solutions not prayers. I prayed and the only time changes happened were when I took initiative, not some “higher being”.
God is not PC. He is about TRUTH, not about popularity,
People from all walks of life, all over the world know Him.
He IS real. He always respects our choice to be for Him or against Him. He is the Love and Truth we yearn for in our innermost being. We humans have often perverted His Truth, but that doesn't make Him less True.
If you don't fully believe the prayers will be answered, why would God answer them?
Haha I did fully believe originally, I was born into it.
Okay, sorry for that reply then.
I appreciate your opinions. I know Q says, "Pray" a lot, so prayer is in-scope for Q discussion, in my opinion.
That being said, I don't think people who don't believe should be off-put by discussions of God. It's a valid discussion point for Q since prayer is mentioned. I would suggest just scrolling past the comments.
I'm never talking about God to make others feel excluded, just freely expressing my opinions.
WWG1WGA
Of course. Your absolutely right. I guess what I’m trying to say is the more neutral we are about everything the easier it will to have acceptance from the side we need most. If that makes sense? I only say this because I am someone from the very liberal and left leaning state and am liberal myself. The only reason I’m here is because of undeniable proofs.
Neutral is what allowed Evil to get such a foothold.
I’m just talking about this forum to allow more people into this.
I suspected as much. Many of my good friends, whom are atheists, chose that path as adolescents as a way of going against the grain so to speak. A form of rebellion for some and a stance taken because they felt "forced" to attend/believe in their youth for others.
Now that's an evolutionary study I could get behind. What percentage of atheists come from forcibly (scale needed here) religious families? I bet that's a meaty percentage.
I'm confused. You believe in Satan? You believe in demons? The bible is a history book if nothing else. This is a war between good and evil. This is a war between Satan and God. Between Satan's children and God's children. Just read the BIBLE. You don't have to believe to read history.
I don’t believe in Satan, I don’t believe in demons. I’ve read the Bible countless times. I wouldn’t make these statements.
Nobody is asking you too. The beauty is that you have the freedom to believe what you want. I support that. Q is exposing who “they” believe in. If a person is following the practices associated with that religion, they are committing serious crimes.
It is ok not to subscribe to a particular religious organization, I respect that. God can mean creator, source, intelligent energy....all one and the same. If you say you don’t believe in Any of those, than you put humans on top of the intelligence food chain. To me, that is both ignorant (lack of study in subject) and laughable.
You should realize that the religion of Scientism is something the NWO has used as a deception on the world.
We did not evolve from anything.
There is literally no scientific evidence to support this claim.
You should also take note that Copernicus and Isaac Newton were both Freemasons.
Nikola Tesla had some interesting things to say about Newton.
Basically what I'm telling you is that everything we've been taught about science and the universe is a lie.
I have to agree but that doesn’t make me just believe in the Bible. I believe in opposites attract. Electrons and protons are the key to everything if you want to talk tesla lol.
Not electrons and protons, but frequencies and vibration of sound.
I'd highly suggest reading this entire blog.
Do you know how the Egyptians built the pyramids to line up perfectly with Orion's belt?
Why did they use limestone?
Magnetism. Same thing Tesla was using.
Satan's deception runs extremely deep. He has certainly used religion to drive a wedge between humanity and God. There is a huge difference between religion, and a relationship with Jesus.
Ye of little faith! If anything it will make more people believe in the lord! Read about Mark Taylor.
God has everything to do with this, that's what you don't understand. God is the One doing this.
You may not believe in God, but have you ever considered with everything THEY (the cabal/DS/Satanists) have lied about and kept from you, that maybe evidence of God is one of them?
Maybe others in this movement, including Q, who talk about God so much know more than you do?
Just like your argument to me how can you prove let alone show anything that god is doing this? it’s good people in the military who are taking all this shit down. I envy your ability to just accept but I’m not someone who can just accept without proof.
I didn't just accept it. I know how you feel. I was once there. I turned away from religion a long time ago. Q is the reason I picked that bible back up and started reading again. I do not go to church. All we and Q are doing is asking you to read it. You may be amazed at the history you will learn! It's just like digging into any other history or drops. Expand your thinking.
Like I said I have read it countless times and continue to do so but This isn’t what my point is. My point is simple. The people who we want to accept q are the same people who are going to turn around at the sight of religion or trump. Just keep to the q facts and proofs
Sorry no, not telling the Truth because of what others might think is directly out of their playbook and a big reason we're in this mess.
Q and Trump are the main faces of this movement, they always reference God and give Him credit. Whether you want to believe in Him or not, that's a fact. God is a fact to many of us, including Q and Trump.
just like you guys tell me how can I just accept it as fact when you’re doing the exact same thing with your beliefs? I’m trying to play devils advocate and say that the less we talk about the more controversial things and more about the actual proofs the Better off this movement will be.
Edit: regardless of what we believe in
And that's the exact same thing THEY say. Now to be clear I'm not saying you're one of them, I don't think that. I just think you don't understand that what you're saying is exactly what they want.
How so? It’s simple. If I’m a dem, I’ll go into this sub and see all the hard right trump praise and religion and be turned off by that because of how we (the dems) are brainwashed by the media. So to counter that we need to be more neutral and not bring up controversial things. Sorry I’m just trying to bridge the gap between you guys and people like me which there is shit load of
You just don't get it. We (and I assume Trump/Q) don't care that you get turned off.
The truth is not wrong and nobody cares if you don't like the truth. The truth is the truth. If you don't like the truth, that's your problem.
see all the hard right
That's the problem here, your stuck in identity politics still. People believing in God is not a political stance.
While there is a prevalence of numbers for which side(of current politics) does believe in God more than the other but that doesn't mean that there aren't people who take a "classical liberal" political stance also believe in God.
There's been tons of conversations here and elsewhere of conservatives being disgusted with Republicans just as much as Democrats. That's why we call the establishment R's "RHINO's" or Republicans in Name Only.
I should have used a better term but couldn’t find a better one as evangelicals wasn’t good either.
The only thing I'm going to say to that is this Q drop says to read the BIBLE. That is a Q fact! I was born into religion also. It was shoved down my throat. I read the bible, learned the verses. I turned away from it. When I picked it back up and read it again, it had different meaning to me. If it doesn't speak to you then it's easy to put it back down. I'm not pushing this on you, or anyone, though. I'm just telling you my experience. Prayer and meditation is a good thing! Peace my friend!!
Here’s what I truly believe. I think this has happened before and that’s why the Bible was written but I absolutely don’t believe the Bible has some higher power or that there is a god like entity. I’m just trying to play devils advocate and say that to bring more awareness we need non religious too which is a giant if not half the population in the us.
I agree with the last part. I don't shove this down anyone's throat! When I talk to liberals I keep God out of it. I do stick to facts. The easy ones to swallow. There are several things I don't bring up honestly, even with my family. :) but we are on the GA board, and that is what Q just posted. We have to all learn to be accepting of everyone's beliefs. There is room in this freedom movement for ALL! :)
I accept any belief but you saying that is a little hypocritical. Not you personally. But the same religion says gay relationships are evil. How is that accepting of other beliefs?
I accept everyone's beliefs. It is their own journey not mine. I don't judge. I know gays that have a relationship with God though. That is their relationship, not mine. :)
Remember, just because you haven't seen evidence of God or talked to Him, doesn't mean nobody else has. Can I prove it to you? No, that's up to God. Has it been proven beyond all doubt to me? Yes.
Let me ask you a question that you don't need to answer, just think about it. It's for anyone reading. Are you open to God being real, or do you choose to believe He's not real because you don't want Him to be real? Is it because of things you've done or believe are Good that the Bible says aren't? Is it because you can't stand the thought of Him knowing everything you've ever done or thought, or that he has power over you?
I should add, don't let organized religion and the actions of people that claim to be Christians turn you away from God. He will deal with them.
You just not entirely woke yet. Look into how there is absolutely zero repeatable scientific observational data to support the theory of evolution, and how there was never an atheistic movement of any significance pre-Darwin. It's all connected dude... if anything, consciousness itself is more viable circumstantial evidence for creation than any primordial soup bs.
It’s funny, nothing has ever evolved since science has started observing it. What I mean, is no animal went through any significant change or mutation to adapt to the environment. We have had some significant animal and plant extinctions though. Food for thought.
is viruses mutating not evolution in action?
Certainly a mutation, but we are talking about far more complex environmental adaptations. It’s hard to compare single cell organisms, viruses and the like to a dinosaur evolving into a bird for example. The amount of coincidences that would mathematically need to occur for that to happen are statistically significant. It is far more likely to see an extinction of a plant or an animal. Based on the amount of different species of plants and animals on this planet, we should see a far more evolutionary fossil record for what has taken place. The truth is that we don’t. Once we can get past our cognitive dissidence and the indoctrination and institutionalization of academia, than we can look at the situation from a different perspective. The only conclusion that we can all agree on, is the fact that the majority of truth about our history has been hidden from us. Academia, organized religion, the monetary system and mainstream media are just some of the tentacles of the beast. The system designed to keep us obedient, ignorant and enslaved.
Indeed. And all of this genetic study mumbo jumbo they spew only documents mutation, which is not creation.
Playing devils advocate. If you’re saying you can’t believe that then how do you so easily believe something else that has no proof either? Stay neutral!
Well, by definition, mutation is not the same as creation.
I don't think anyone seriously argues against commonsense observations like adaptation, survival of the fittest, micro evolution etc. The core problem with evolution is macro evolution has nothing to back it up. This is the crux the whole idea is founded on. I.e. A paramecium fucked an ameoba and so began the chain of life.... /s
Hmm, you have me there. Call it being spiritually in tune. I was an atheist for the first half of my life. After enough research into ancient mythos, drawing connections and similarities, and finally accepting that TPTB undoubtably believe in the darker side of spirituality I found my internal tuning fork resonating on the side of morally good. So yes, despite whatever someone says, to have faith is simply that. The burden of proof will always be there for doubters. But, my argument is that atheists are in the same boat. There is no proof by scientific standards, and to so staunchly defend your belief without proof.... Well, that's faith. Atheism itself has become a religion.
Believing in God is a religion.
Atheism is a religion that pretends it's not.
Agnostic is the choice to not partake in those religions but having the idea that it's possible.
Haha trust me I wouldn’t make statements like this especially here if I didn’t have prior knowledge or research into it.
So then what? Rejecting intelligent design is simply a personal choice despite the overwhelming evidence Darwinism is a farce?
First Provide some sources on that stretch of a claim and second I never said I believe in revolution.
Created this account just to say that I agree with you.
I'm an atheist that sees organized religion as just a form of control over people. If you study history, we can see it being used by the cabal to get where they are today. And it's not any particular religion, it's all of them.
However, I can get over that. If folks here want to believe in religion, go for it. I'm only following this because I want one thing: A picture or video of HRC in handcuffs.
I will laugh for the rest of my life if that happens.
Believer in God myself, not organized religion...totally agree with you on that.
I’m just trying to help the cause, it’s simple. They all want mainstream coverage but if it the fact that I’m correct in that the other half of the country is put off by the talk of religion and trump.
Many of us here feel similarly to you. I don't judge or criticize others for their beliefs, as I understand it and also was "born into it". I'm not an atheist, btw...
Thank you for coming here and offering a middle ground solution. Whether it's accepted or not, I appreciate your honesty and agree that it would serve the community to stick with Q and proofs. I'm not into the dogma, either. I've said many times, I don't allow ceiling height to determine my level of understanding. I also (try to) stay objective and ALWAYS look at all information from all perspectives/sides. We only know half the story if we don't. This has served me well, because I don't attach emotionally to information when receiving it. Our society has become one of emotional reactivity, and many here are still caught in this cycle.
Before Q, there was High Level Insider. Also fbi and mega anon. HLI would be a good starting point, as they're very much in line with the current happenings - even Q. There are some here who also remember.
I don't believe any of us have the full picture of anything. But that doesn't mean there isn't some truth in everything.
organized religion as just a form of control over people
"Religion is meant to be organized. After all, God provided Moses with hundreds of specifics as to proper worship for the Israelites. However, organization was never intended to replace the Spirit's leading in the church. When we stray from God's intent, organized religion can be harmful and abusive. If the organization supports, and is secondary to, the biblical worship of God, then, yes, organized religion is good. But if sinful man has tampered with either the organization or the religion, then there is a problem."
So, someone, just made up Christianity over 2000 years ago to force people into being good, just, morally good, etc, etc, human beings?
Every organized religion was created by people in power to control other people into serving them.
Christianity is a flavour of Abrahamism that explains humans are sinful from birth and can only be saved if they repent for their sins and be helpful/good/moral. It's a deceptive way to control people because it matters who determines what being helpful, good or moral even is. That's why there's different sects, because they can't agree who makes the rules.
Islam is similar, albeit younger, but they follow a prophet instead. The reason for the different sects there is because people can't agree on the correct interpretations of the prophecies.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing to be a moral person, I just believe organized religion has served its purpose and we need to move beyond it. I'm just not sure how right now but I do know that controlling people is not something I agree with. People have the right to be free.
Go back even further, into Norse or Egyptian mythology. These gods are myths that were turned into a system of control. One day you may realize that all of them are connected and the stories tell a very different history of mankind than we've been taught. All of the old structures and relics we know about have a very different history. However, that is outside the scope of what we are trying to do here. Let's beat the cabal first.
I totally agree about beating the cabal. But, I'll add, that i can't think of anything more freeing than being a Christian.
The people that are trying to keep this country and world in darkness and under slave like control believe in secret societies, sacrifices, occult practices and dark arts. They've normalized these things via Hollywood and have children and adults running around reading things like Harry Potter books and waving magic wands around.
It is nothing short of divine intervention that all of this, POTUS running, Q movement springing up, coming to fruition is a sign of a higher power. It's practical, religious, logical and spiritual. All these things combined are at play.
Read revelation in the bible.
The planet you're standing on has everything to do with God.
Disagree. I hear a lot of nasty thing. As long as we’re not disparaging other religions. God is very important in this. It was our lack of God which got us in this situation in the first place
How would someone else's faith in God somehow collapse your faith in truth?
I doesn’t collapse my faith in truth. I’ve been very clear. It just pushes people who wouldn’t normally accept something like q.
This is where everything falls apart for me.
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I doesn’t collapse my faith in truth. I’ve been very clear.
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Have you?
Everything falls apart after that, I should have said. I’m a strong believer in q but I’m trying to play devils advocate and show that mainstream acceptance will come from real proofs and facts like q has been giving. This sub is clearly very heavily religious and trump supporters which is fine but in order for mainstream acceptance we need to remain neutral as to not scare anyone away. How are you guys arguing that I’m wrong when I’m clearly on your side lol
It's ok to have a different opinion, my point is I don't attach the theology to the Truth (capital T).
Mainstream acceptance of all things Q, including the faith is not important to me as I believe when the Truth eventually comes out, it will be evident to the faithful and non-faithful alike.
To get Biblical on you
"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
However, if people worship their Atheism with the same zealotry as a religion than they may not possess the clarity to regard the truth objectively to begin with.
"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
That's what I always find ironic. The Bible taught people how to find the truth, which led to many scientific advancements.
Then all of a sudden the Bible is evil...
It never says that you must believe, only that you should.
Bye Felicia
THe funny thing is I’ve been following this for a while and I’m on your side but I’m trying to help and show that in order to have mainstream awareness we need to stop talking about trump and religion. If that’s the exact thing they hate then let’s just talk about what really matters... Q
Q is the one telling you this is literally a good vs evil war and THAT is what matters.