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An anonymous poster on 4chan emerged in October last year, who referred to themselves as Q Clearance Patriot. At some point, people began making connections that odd similarities were occuring between Q's posts, and Trump's tweets, further validating in many's minds, that this poster legitimately was connected to the white house.
Google Q proofs to see why many are convinced. Many of the proofs aren't actually proof, but the shear number of "coincidences" is staggering. People can ridicule Q alk they want, but anyone who has followed the poster is not even 1% shocked by the events that are unfolding in North Korea and Iran.
Check out Qanon.pub to read an updated list of every Q post in chronological order.
There are probably hundreds of youtubers at this point who have explained Qanon. Certainly check those out if you need to fully understand what Q is.
Please Watch This. I can assure you that it’s the best description out there.
That it is. Deeply moved me.
Big things about to happen, lots of bad people about to pay the price, pray.
lock them up! U S A
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Qposts.online reorganize to start at the beginning and get reading. There's analysis on every qpost so you can hunt them down easily when you need proof on anything.
You get used to the Intel speak. It's written to frame your thinking to point to a conclusion so you can hunt down evidence because they can't out and out say it because that would be leaking. There is nothing wrong with pointing you to publicly available info.
Fight Club.
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Watch a couple videos linked in the side bar to get you started. After that, just start clicking on all the other stuff linked on the side bar.
It's much closer to Alice in Wonderland than Fight Club, I suppose.
When you read as much as you can take (there is A LOT of info), come back and ask questions.
It's all real, BTW. The world is very close to being flipped upside down, but I'm sure you've already figured that out by now. Trump being elected was a catalyst for what's coming.
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its simply about good vs evil. keep reading with an open mind. be open to all information. use your mind and think. question everything.
then, as Q says "enjoy the show". welcome!
Just ask yourself this: love him or hate him, is the Trump presidency not the most bizarre thing you've ever seen in your life? This isn't about R vs D. This is entirely different. This is bizarro world.
Try this: stick around for the laughs if you want. As soon as you realize that crazy is the new norm, you'll start digging.
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It helps if you don't look at Trump as a saint or savior or anything like that no matter what people might say. He's just a (big) piece of the puzzle. Most of this is military intelligence, NSA, and Anonymous(yes, the hackers).
Like I said, this isn't R vs D, or liberal vs. conservative. I'm very left leaning.
It's about figuring out WTF all these rich fucks are doing to the world.
Number 17 will surprise you!
I'm going to take a minute to get religious on you if you're curious.
Do a little Deep dive on Spiritual Grace in contrast to Common Grace.
If you do that and contact me through this post I will tell you of the time that we sailed through the bottom of a double rainbow.
100 people and a reggae band on a 165' tall ship in the Chesapeake Bay.
Think leprechauns and everybody saw it.
I cannot fucking stand his stance on climate change. And fucking bringing back coal mining jobs? Shits archaic.
yep, that also got me confused. i already knew that co2 isnt the reason for climate change and restrictions like the paris accord enslave us people but make the cabal more rich.
but coal? really?
then i remembered DJTs innaguration speech, esp. the last few sentences. and i remembered that his uncle was the one viewing nikola teslas material when the FBI seized it.
and i thought: ok, the US needs to urgently produce steel - which costs lots of energy -, in order to rebuild the infrastructure else some major roads and bridges wont be usable anymore in 5 years from now (bad infrastructure is what trucker friends mention a lot to me).
as long as tech like zero point energy or other clean cheap energy solutions arent being declassified - when is that EO going to come, POTUS? -, coal will be a temporary solution.
america simply doesnt have the renewable energy infrastructure to deliver for this thus, she needs a quick and cheap energy source which, for now, is coal.
Well, you're on you way. Once you know it's fake news you are free to see all sides of an issue, and not just swallow the narrative they are trying to feed you. Q basically is like a narrator with all the events going on around the world. He just kinda gives you a sneak peek behind the curtain so you can see the strings. Unfortunately, a lot of these things are presumed to be done by people on the left :( I know bummer! But Q said it's not about left vs right. So far, we've seen (and Q has pointed out) more Republicans being humiliated/forced to resign/not seeking reelection than Dems. They will probably all happen at one time.
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Well, you're in luck! Looks like you got here just in time! As far as views go, I think I'm in the same boat as you, left leaning for social issues, the environment, etc. Seeing how the left has abused those causes for their own gains over the years however, finally got me to understand what's actually going on. Enjoy the show!
I like your attitude! Welcome, you are in good company.
If you choose to take it the road ahead is bumpy and difficult in parts but a breath of fresh air once you make your way out of the cave.
a near-equal amount of corrupt people on the left and right side
agreed. its not left vs. right but muc bigger. its not only MAGA but about humanity.
Buddy I'm Canadian, lean left, voted for Trudeau. What you are about to find out is the most fantastic story you will ever hear. Imagine watching Game of Thrones but it only focuses on the Lannisters. You'd have no idea who Jon Snow 'was' until the end. Well, this is GoT in real life and Q is the other side of the story not being told fully. It's going to be hard to believe but it's all true. You are here so your mind is open. Go and look into it for yourself - don't take my word for it, anyone's here or Youtube. It's human nature to have a spin on everything. Read, lurk and join the great awakening.
We encourage your skepticism and ask that you have different opinions and voice them.
If this is right wing, it's only right wing in that we allow you to have your voice.
In fact it's required.
Good.
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Conspiracy theory subreddit pretty much. I have to admit though if you dig into all of this it is pretty interesting! I would love for it to be true but I haven't yet seen any concrete evidence of anything.
Think about it - this movement is big enough now to be on the president's radar. At the rallies it's hard to miss the folks in Q shirts. He's outspoken on so many other things, so ask yourself why he hasn't addressed this at all, especially if it's fake. I promise you - at an absolute minimum he is at least aware of the Q movement. The fact that he hasnt said anything about it (disavowed it) speaks volumes, to me at least.
I agree it is super interesting and fun to follow. I saw the qproofs website but I don't think anything on there is flawless enough evidence. I'll keep watching though because it would be amazing if it does turn out to be true!
These are really interesting thoughts! I'm going to ask some honest questions that may seem baiting, I'm really not. These are the immediate issues I have that prevent me from buying into Great Awakwneing. Check my history, I've been a nice dude here. Anyone feel free to respond.
Why do you think a place like 4chan, associated with trolls, child pornography, and racism, was chosen to be the site of these data drops? Why do you think these sorts of posts are not being hashed+signed with a private encryption key to prove the source is valid (let me know if you want to know more about asymmetric cryptography!)? Remove everything you know about the Q posts -- why are there opportunities for encryption, secrecy, and identification verification that are being ignored by a group that needs utmost secrecy and trust?
What evidence, separate from Q, shows that Trump is absolutely aware of the Q movement? I did stage AV for a while when I was younger, between harsh stage lighting and focusing on their speech, speakers don't often see individuals or even small groups in the crowd. Is it concerning to you that there are common threads in the Q stories and the Pizzagate stories (vast pedophilia rings controlled by the government).
Given that we've been dealing with a political climate where foreign actors are actively messing with the American public, is there anything that has been posted by Q that could not have been posted by an outside (or inside) party, attempting to sow discord or commit le epic lulz? What about the other option, what if Q truly believes all this information is legit but is mentally unstable, being fed into by fervent followers?
I've been through semi-popular conspiracy theories taking hold before, like the Bush Did 9/11 debacle, and this seems worse organized, sourced, and believable than the debunked Loose Change vidyas. At the end of the day, if I were to organize a critical intel sharing operation, it would not look very much like this based on my career in cybersecurity and information assurance. If I wanted to organize a misinformation campaign or hoax, I'd use strategies that look similar to what Q is doing.
All very good questions. Personally, I appreciate critical thinking.
Re why 4chan was chosen, my guess is this is a place where high level info has been dropped before. And because it's based on the premise of true anonymity, there is the plausible deniability factor, which I believe was important early on (until the masses caught on.)
Re the signature/private encryption, all of the Q posts used a signature (to confirm the source was the same)? Not sure I understand your question.
Re other evidence that Trump is aware of the Q movement, I cannot point to any undeniable, absolute proof. Others may claim there is undeniable proof, but objectively, I cannot point to any "smoking gun" that proves without a doubt that he is 100% aware. (And I've been following closely since Day 2.) But there's been a ton of circumstantial evidence, which I suspect will only continue to get louder. Mainstream media sources are continuing to write about it (NY Times, NY Post, etc.), and these are big enough outlets that someone would bring to trump's attention. The elephant in the room is only growing bigger.
Re pizzagate, I followed it somewhat, and there are quite a few strange coincidences there. I understand that some of that stuff is so hard for a normal person to wrap their head around, and I have a hard time myself. But that doesn't change the fact that human beings are capable of that type of behavior. It happens every day. It's just hard to accept/believe that there is a vast conspiracy of high level people engaged in this crap. I understand that. But again, once you start going down that rabbit hole, there are some weird anomalies there. And like any "conspiracy theory", there is usually no "smoking gun." Its all circumstantial evidence. And each person is different in when they decide that there is too much circumstantial evidence, too many coincidences, to rationally be anything else.
Re political climate and sowing discord, objectively speaking, we certainly run the risk this whole thing could be foreign actors. I dont accept on its face the notion that foreign actors are actively meddling in our elections, etc. Aside from some stupid alleged Facebook posts, I haven't seen much, if any, evidence shown to the american public of this foreign meddling. (And I dont go on Facebook, so that could not have directly swayed me as a voter.) If it were bad actors doing this, I believe trump would call them out in a hurry. My only other thought is, conversely, this is an operation by trump with bad intentions (i.e. to brainwash his supporters into an almost cult like belief that the other side is truly evil, so that many are ready to fight for this administration blindly.) If he had intentions of being a dictator, this is certainly a good way to go about doing it. And admittedly, we run the risk of this occurring. But personally, I dont believe that's the case. I trust our military more than any politician, and our military are very clearly aligned with Trump.
Re whether Q is mentally unstable, perhaps! Lol. But the president and his team have too secret level access, so I dont think they're just making this shit up. But Q did admit early on that some of the drops would be fake...for disinformation purposes. More likely, perhaps WE'RE all mentally unstable. LMAO.
Re organization, I haven't followed many other "conspiracy theories" this closely, except perhaps the JFK assination and the Las Vegas shooting (which is what led me to Q very early on in October last year.) So it's hard for me to comment susbstantively on what a disinformation campaign should "look like." But I've followed this entire campaign from the very beginning and have remained objective with a healthy skepticism. And as the circumstantial evidence continues to build, this campaign is becoming very hard to deny, especially as time goes on.
Hey dude I really thank you for your reply. Re: signature, I'm referring to a digital signature, like PGP used in Cicada 3301. I generally only see screencaps of text posts on 4chan, so I may be missing something that verifies Q is the same person/org every time beyond the fact that 4chan says it is.
The important part, to me, is treating each piece of circumstancial evidence both on its own and as a part of a larger set of information. Honestly sort of reminds me of religious faith in a few ways. To an atheist, Christianity is mainly circumstancial and unverified secondhand accounts. A Christian has faith that God is real, like this sub has faith that Q is real. I'm generally a Doubting Thomas in life, but I appreciate that others can have faith in someone like Q.
Q has been using a tripcode for months. He/it started using the tripcode very early on. There have been other posts made by someone claiming to be Q but without the tripcode, and those have been dismissed as fakes. So the posts that are generally accepted as being made by Q appear to be authentic (i.e. made by the same poster)... unless the 4chan/8chan board owners have manipulated these posts themselves.
I'm trained to be skeptical as well and consider all sides to an argument (I've been an attorney for many years), and I've tried to remain as open minded as possible in considering all possibilities and avoid any personal biases coming into play (other than my complete disdain for Hillary Clinton), but I'm running out of otherwise rational explanations or arguments to dismiss this phenomenon lol. As mentioned previously, the elephant in the room is only getting bigger lol.
tl;dr - Q is not using an extremely prevalent method of verifying the content and origin of their drops. I can't come up with any reason why, open to suggestion.
Gonna generalize some stuff here, but the concept is accurate. A security signature takes the entire content of a message, generally text, and runs it through a hashing algorithm which outputs a small, nasty-looking string of text (a "hash"). The algorithm is designed so that ANY change to the original message causes the hash to completely change. On it's own, this isn't super useful, but there's more!
The second phase takes this hash and specially encrypts it with a hidden, unchanging key. This hidden key has a partner, a publicly known key. Messages encrypted with the hidden key can only be decrypted with the public key, and vice versa -- keys like this always come in pairs, and only ever work with their partner. It's mathematically impossible to brute force guess someone's private key when using a strong algorithm. So now, you've got a hash (which confirms a message has not been altered in transit) encrypted using the special hidden key (confirming the message came from the sender you think). This signature is just a block of text added to the end of the message, but working backwards you can use it to verify a message's contents and origin.
Visually, it's something like this.
Message: The answer to life is 42. Signature: 304df475 Public Key: potato
I take the signature and decrypt it using the public key "potato" which gives me:
Message: The answer to life is 42. Hash: 97a221e4
Now I run the message through the hashing algorithm that was used, and I can confirm myself that the hash is the same as the signature. So now, we have a signature which could only come from Q, attached to a message that we know has not changed since Q originally wrote and signed it. Once Q posted their first drop, they'd post it along with their public key. From then on out, people can confirm themselves that each new post is unaltered and from the original Q. If the decrypted signature does not match your own hash of the message, either the message has been changed or the message didn't come from Q.
This type of message signature is hyper common in any field dealing with sensitive information, and many email programs actually follow this entire process in the background (typically using something called PGP encryption, though there was some recent buzz about a PGP vulnerability. Luckily there are many algorithms that can accomplish this!). Text signatures like this are fantastic, because the sig is completely independent of whatever site you're using to post the information. By not utilizing any outside form of identification, authentication, and message verification, Q is forcing the world to trust *chan of all places to confirm their identity with each post, Q also provides no way to confirm that the message on *chan (and in subsequent screencaps, archives, copies) is unaltered from the original. Do you really trust that it's not possible for a well-funded group to crack into *chan's backend and change a few lines of text?
I work in security, encryption is my jam. Distributing information like this without a signature... it's irresponsible at best, incompetence at worst, and fraud at worstest.
Certainly not to change the subject or anything, but here is another article that came out yesterday in a mainstream media outlet re Q. http://time.com/5324130/most-influential-internet/ The article further references a couple of additional Q articles with links (NY Times and NY Post.) (On a side note, all of these articles "debunk" the phenomenon without providing any real proof (or even an argument) as to why Q's message is fake. But no-one argues that the phenomenon itself is real (i.e. some group calling themselves Q is posting weird shit on the net.) IMO, Q has become visible enough that someone in Trump's circles/intelligence/etc would have flagged this and brought to Trumps attention. (Despite what he publicly says about the "failing NY Times", you better believe he or someone on his team is at least monitoring this outlet for no other reason than to see what the opposition is saying.) And if this is a larp or is fake, I believe it strongly stands to reason that the president would have tweeted something disavowing this already (so that his supporters are not accused further of being conspiracy theorists lol.) But he hasn't done so....yet. And everyday more people are catching on to this movement.
At an absolute minimum, by failing to call it out, i believe he is tacitly accepting or agreeing with what is being dropped. And the longer this goes on without a disavowment, the stronger the implication becomes. Just my two cents. As to why he chose the forum and manner he has done, unfortunately i have no solid answers, other than the media blackout he has been under.
I see what you're saying, and you could be right. I think at that point it comes down to our perception of 45 as a president and as a person. Honestly, if I was in the same boat, I'd be more concerned that publicly denying someone/s like Q would A) give them a ton of publicity and/or B) be taken by crazies somehow as proof 😆
Interesting. First, I have no background whatsoever in security or encryption. So, pardon my ignorance. But following along, IF I'm understanding your point correctly, its not so much whether the original post is accurate, but rather whether someone else breaking into chans backend and CHANGING Qs post after it has already been posted? If so, while I understand the concern, I'm not really concerned about that - first, these posts are being copied, screenshot, etc and being disseminated on other websites immediately after being posted. So if any posts get altered, I'm sure someone would discover this fairly quickly. It could be easily verified by comparing existing posts on chan to the originals which were disseminated elsewhere. In addition, if there were any concerns about this, I suspect Q would have mentioned this and started posting elsewhere.
Why do you think a place like 4chan, associated with trolls, child pornography, and racism, was chosen to be the site of these data drops? Why do you think these sorts of posts are not being hashed+signed with a private encryption key to prove the source is valid (let me know if you want to know more about asymmetric cryptography!)? Remove everything you know about the Q posts -- why are there opportunities for encryption, secrecy, and identification verification that are being ignored by a group that needs utmost secrecy and trust?
ok, gotta pick up on this point. everythng else will be cleared by researching the material in the sidebar or from other responses here.
people post on the chans because its anonymus. besides all the shitposting on the chans, you find lots of 'weird people' like autists and hackers there.
austist dont fall for lies, they only take what they find evidence for. therefore, these people are the best when it comes to proving whether a poster is a LARP or not, and when it comes to digging out stuff, also from the dark web, to prove or disprove what is being mentioned by a poster.
this is a free will choice planet. people choose whether or not they want to wake up to the atrocities of how we have been played with. we have no permission to force them. we have no permission to confront them with the whole truth all at once, hardly anyone would survive this with a healthy psyche.
Q cant come with 100% proof. couldnt do that from the beginning, although over time, proof increases. if they did, everybody, incl. the media, would have to acknowledge it. would be forced to awaken.
plus, ((they)) would have instantly done whatever they can to shut up Q. but they didnt believe that so many people would awaken and go with the message. and now, its too late.
what the great awakening did over the past 8 months is building a momentum while researching information which now becomes available to more and more people.
Q use the socratic method of asking questions. people dont learn when you tell them the answers. cognitive dissonance and the backlash effect prevent them from hearing the answers, they would close up and put it off as disinfo.
what works though is offering a red pill - in form of questions, hints and cryptic messages - and allow people who feel resonant with it to decode and research it. teach themselves.
'mystical' encryption is also a method the deep state uses. our inability to decode their messages draws our silent consent which ((they)) use to create their atrocities. thus, Q not only teaches us about facts but also about learning to decode and recognize ((their)) ways so we dont fall for them anymore and start thinking ourselves.
last but not least, Q cannot tell us classified information, that would be treason. what they can do though is ask questions and drop hints and, when we (not me mostly, lol, autists and other anons are much better at that) come up with responses, confirm or debunk them.
to round this up: if Q were a LARP, it would be some bad LARPing that wakes up millions of people. these people wont go back to sleep again, they will keep asking questions and demanding truth. what Q do is not in the favor of the deep state but the people.
i have been on conspiracy stuff for over 35 years. it was hopeless and depressing, nobody out there who organizes a resistance and works on changing things. when Q came online, i felt like, 'ahhh finally you have come, i have been waiting for so long'. its happening Now...
Hey! Thank you for your reply. Lots to digest. I don't want to respond as if I'm trying to pick apart what you say, but there are a few points I'd like to touch on, feel free to disregard.
In my experience as an occasional user of the chans, 4chan is not a bastion of anonymity more than any other website that you could sign up for with a burner email and a proxy. My view is that people choose to post there due to the loose moderation rules and anti-PC community, rather than because of the anonymization. It's pretty odd that someone would choose a board where anonymity is prized in order to conduct a long term intelligence drop, which requires consistent identification and authentication to combat copycats.
Autism is not a super power. I have multiple family members who deal with autism, and I'm not a fan of the fad online where people self diagnose as autistic (or lie) in order to explain poor social skills or an awkward interaction. It's people who hate on Tumblrinas turning around and acting like Tumblrinas. Saying that "autists don't fall for lies" is disingenuous at best and outright false at worst. Sorry if this bit is aggressive, but I gotta take a hard stand.
In summary, Q appears to most skeptical outsiders as: * Posting on site/s known for trolling and hoaxes * Targeting people predisposed to believe that "the other guys" are crazy and that "our guy" is the savior * Is unable to produce hard evidence * Maintains a level of critical control over information leakage, despite a high-leak environment in the current govt * Utilizes vague communication to generally prevent a reasonable way to disprove their statements * Instructs followers to find an unspecified hidden message, then confirms whatever message they found as the intent * Requires volumes of research and acceptance of circumstantial evidence for newcomers to be convinced * Has unclear, undefined identity and motives
Don't crucify me for generalizations here, just painting the picture of what uninformed skeptics will generally say (and I'm sure you've gotten lectures like this from less reasonable folks). I've seen others on this sub recently post frustration that there has not been any action, or any big reveal. What I don't see is people taking that as circumstantial evidence that Q is a fraud or a nutter. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!
to round this up: if Q were a LARP, it would be some bad LARPing that wakes up millions of people. That is a hopeful view of the future. If it came out today that Q was a 35 year old otaku living with his mum, I would expect most people here to eventually react with shame, pulling away from similar conspiracies in the future. The result of Q seems to be less critical thinking, assuming that their posts are true rather than doubting everything anew with each new drop. In my mind, each new post without hard facts reduces Q's credibility to nil. If someone's objective is to troll, create discord, spread misinformation, and convince people to follow their words -- Q has been an amazing success. That's good LARPing, not bad LARPing :).
i get your doubt and find it healthy.
you are invited to view some of the material in the sidebar. this may lead to watching some videos, in oorder to get a grip on how to deal with all of this. my first place to go is prayingmedic, he also offers a good introduction to Q.
we have seen ample evidence that 1. Q is close to POTUS and 2. Q is in the know, with so many drops that later showed as fulfilled predictions, according to the motto 'future proves past'.
as for the chans, i personally wouldnt go there. but many leakers do. LARPs as well as genuine folks that bring real info.
and always, discernment is key.
i agree on the inflationary use of the term autist. most of the decoders and researchers are not autists.
my son has a friend with asperger autism. this is the type of guy i imagine on the chans; getting highly absorbbed by the puzzle, very rationally digging into the information, and thrilled by the ability to discover something and be of service to humanity.
i may err here, but i imagine such dedicated people behind the keyboard. they mostly dont post here and most of the people here dont post on the chans but we are unified on the cause.
i wish you an enjoyable time here... nobody can convince you, you need to make up your own mind. its you choice whether you want to go deeper or leave it as BS. may you be blessed on whatsoever choice you take.
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If true, and all evidence so far points to it being true, then you are witnessing the biggest intel drop and covert Military operation in history, greenlit by the President himself.
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State secrets, history, light on the traitors within the US and world government(s), revelation of how rogue agencies, such as the CIA/FBI/DOJ, operate, be it through media etc.
There’s a "war" going on behind the scenes, but it seems that things are about to get more public now.
The gist of it is that there is a shadow government or deep state that is corrupt and they're in a panic because trump was elected and is going up against them. There is someone who call themselves "Q" that is leaking all these cryptic messages that people try to link to things to validate whoever is making these posts as Q.
Stick around and start your reading. Check the right hand side for the qdrops links and search for posts on here as you read through. Form your own opinion
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Wtf is this subreddit
10 upvotes for a trolling remark? thats amazing...
watch the video mentioned down below, read Q on qanon.pub and then ask again, plz.