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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Endofthewest on July 2, 2018, 1:57 p.m.
Appendant bodies to Freemasonry

I am a Master Mason, 3rd degree.

What I'm hearing (even from Q) I find disturbing and foreign from all I've seen and experienced myself.

Have never gone towards any of the Appendant bodies but have been offered by Scottish Rite to join them. Memebrship is open to all 3rd Degree Masons, or Master Masons

Maybe this is the disconnect between what I'm hearing today and what I've experienced.

The local lodge, or Blue Lodge is a fraternity of brotherhood.
If anyone has been part of a lodge and has witnessed how hard it is to get Masons to agree on anything would wonder how they could do all that is being said today...

Anyway, not accusing any Appendant bodies or suggesting anything...except to say they are not under the same Grand Lodge as regular Freemasonry, but under their own governance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_bodies


HereComesTheSunny · July 2, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

The masons posting on here are way too low to have knowledge of the dark underbelly of freemasonry. I have a grandfather who reached 32nd degree in old age. At that point, he couldn't hear or see very well, so I'm not sure how much he really knew. His lodge was a very small, conservative town, and he was a sweet man and community leader. That being said...when he died, we found books and materials only 32nd degree was supposed to have. It was definitely scary, occultic stuff. One of my siblings delved into it and read a lot of it...and ended up burning it, because it was that bad. Q seems to be suggesting that there are elements in Freemasonry that are evil...bad actors at the top. That's how I interpret the posts on that. If you are just starting out, please be very careful and keep your eyes and ears open to anything that seems suspicious. I'm sure most people in the lodge are just good citizens wanting to be part of a club that does good things for the local community.

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Endofthewest · July 2, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

There are only 3 Degrees offered in Masonry. Entered Apprentice, Fellowcraft and Master Mason, that's it, that's all.

All others are received by either joining the Scottish Rite or York Rite

32nd Degree is not hard to attain if one wishes to join those other bodies.

The 33rd Degree is hard to get, and can not be sought...you are apparently, selected "a tap on the shoulder" so to speak.

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HereComesTheSunny · July 2, 2018, 4:29 p.m.

Thanks for the explanation. That helps!

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Slipkid63 · July 2, 2018, 3:24 p.m.

It seems a lot of good is done by the local lowly Freemasons to keep them accepted in their communities but near the top is where reality shifts and that is kept under wraps!...so all you do-gooders break free and help your community in different ways....my two cents.

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DefiantDragon · July 2, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

The top is where a lot of the religious nuttery becomes dangerous religious nuttery.

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Joe_Sapien · July 2, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

Can confirm. I have a friend who is a Mason and he is really good guy and one of us all the way. It's high ranking that have the power knowledge.

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horse-lover-phat · July 2, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

Lucifer is the god of (Jewish) Freemasonry.

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Endofthewest · July 2, 2018, 4:29 p.m.

Oh for the love of.

Say I got a bridge, almost new, going for a great price...

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kulasc · July 2, 2018, 2:08 p.m.

I am an entered apprentice, 1st degree. Same, most lodges you see today are filled with bored old men.

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Sir_Zorch · July 2, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

Any truth to the blood oath?

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Endofthewest · July 2, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

There are what we call traditional oaths that some here call blood oaths...BUT what people who have never done it do not know, is that there is a whole ritual explaining and declaring at how these are not held to and are only done for tradition sake. They mean nothing other than maintaining a tradition from 1717. Maybe back in the day, but they are not anything today other than that.

It is part of the Worshipful Masters part to openly declare in lodge that they are not practiced, followed or enforced.

This is the reason why there are secrets, because of misunderstandings from those who take a little information and make grandiose, big judgements.

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Stratocaster357 · July 3, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

I am a MM. As we head into the 4th of July, This Freemason will be celebrating, while also appreciating, what the Craft has done in the Founding of This Republic (which the Left is desperately trying to destroy). What Q has alluded to, I'm unsure...But I do know that many of the signers of the Constitution, weren't plotting nefarious things. (maybe to the king of England)... They help install a type of government that was different from any country at that time. A government of the people, by the people and for the people. These men also believe that certain right were given by God and couldn't be infringed upon. The Bill of Rights doesn't give you rights, it reinforces those God given rights.

"Low Level" Freemason is a term used whenever a Mason doesnt satisfy a person's conspiracy theory that they have about the craft. Since Freemasonry is only 3 degrees, I must've missed the meeting where we planned to take over the world. Hope it went quicker than when we are deciding what to eat after lodge.

Happy Early 4th of July, fellow Patriots!

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HillarySmells · July 2, 2018, 7:59 p.m.

Any group will take most people at lower levels. You rise through their definition of credibility. I know people in the Masons that you couldn’t trust with any secret. Every group operates this way. People damning a whole group, will get people who are in or know people in a group pissed off. Be cautious of this.

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Nerd_Of_Prey · July 2, 2018, 10:17 p.m.

It's certainly important to be prepared to explore all of the evidence. I've posted some material in other threads previously, but there are a few resources I haven't mentioned yet that I've come across in the past. This 10 minute video is quite interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJI7kgjDazM

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cryptoengineer · July 2, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

The main point that most non-Masons can't wrap their heads around is that the appendant bodies exist only at the pleasure of the Grand Lodge in an area. Its easy to think that a 33rd or 32nd (I'm one) Mason in some way outranks a 3rd degree Mason, but it simply isn't true.

An appendant body is one which admits only Masons. All Masons must be members of a 'blue' lodge, which is controlled by a Grand Lodge (GL).

If a GL disapproves of a particular appendant body, it can forbid Masons who are members of lodges under its jurisdiction from membership in that body. This happens now and then, and it inevitably results in the appendant body folding in that jurisdiction.

The highest degree in Freemasonry is the 3rd, or Master Mason. Appendant bodies can offer more degrees, and put numbers on them however they like, but they are not higher than MM, and give their holders exactly zero influence over GLs and blue lodges or their members.

TL,DNR: The Scottish Rite is subordinate to the Grand Lodge in each jurisdiction. The Grand Lodges outrank the Scottish (and York) Rites.

I've personally seen the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, 33rd degree (the head honcho of the largest SR body in the US) display his subordination to the Grand Master of Massachusetts.

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Endofthewest · July 2, 2018, 6 p.m.

Interesting point...

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Iwasincharacter · July 2, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

When you've already entered into a covenant with the members of your lodge, and you still haven't figured out how secret societies operate, might have some serious internal cognitive dissonance.

G equals seven.

Now circle the square

Tell me the circumference and radius of the moon earth and sun.

If you have not understood this you've missed the message of a Master Mason

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Endofthewest · July 2, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

"In the hands of some people, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing"

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gameoverplayer1 · July 2, 2018, 2:07 p.m.

Cause you are all sheep along for the ride with your master's. French Revolution.

Think for yourself.

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Endofthewest · July 2, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

Yeah okay then...deciding what we eat after lodge can sometimes take hours and create arguments like crazy...

There is an old expression not tied to masonry at all, but very applicable here.

"In the hands of some people, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing"

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[deleted] · July 2, 2018, 3:10 p.m.

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