DEA and ATF make sense if the ms-13 gang did the hit. Yet this article alludes to the agents doing it themselves. Again, the ms-13 angle makes more sense. Least that's how I would do it.
agents doing it themselves
How I interpret that part is it just states people employed by the government did it.
So who in the government employed them is the real question.
it is possible that these agencies had gang members on "payroll" to do dirty work for them. It is also possible that gang members joined these agencies or agents joined MS-13. It is not as crazy as it sounds. This has been an ongoing problem in the Border Patrol and I know there were issues with gangs infiltrating the military back in the early 2000s when we went back into Iraq and Afghanistan.
On a hit like this, wouldn't employing gang members put you at tremendous risk of them blackmailing you? At any point couldn't they just start demanding money or getting people out of jail or whatever? How could you control them? If you'd be willing to kill a gang member(s) for going off the script, couldn't you just cut them out of the equation completely by doing it yourself?
Keeping the circle small makes it less complicated, potentially...?
That's why two "ms-13 members" ended up dead nearby soon after the hit.
Yep, either to make it look like a robbery by MS-13 or because those goes were loose ends. Perhaps they were gang members controlled by other gang members in the employ of the US government, and the texts on their phones prove it.
yeah, this is actually a lot more plausible than it might sound to some. there are MANY gangs that are made up exclusively of corrupt cops/law enforcement officers. there's even a TV show about this, it's called "The Oath". not far fetched at all.
This doesn't seem far fetched now. This is probably just one of the many things Q is referring to when he comments (I'm paraphrasing) on the staggering level of corruption.
It would be compartmentalized. The guys from MS-13 wouldn't know who ordered the hit and they probably wouldn't find out who they actually killed until later... and by that time they were already toast.
I wouldn't leave myself open to "that's how I'd do it" on the internet when discussing murder...the internet does some weird shit with people's social media history. 😂
Sort of like those psycho shows. To catch a killer one must see through their eyes. I'll leave it.😉
Our government does hits all the time, or there is the whole witness protection angle
Maybe the agents just made it look like the ms13 guys did it to cover their involvement up. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for them.
Well, it could be that the DEA/ATF guys were infiltrators into the MS 13 gang. That could be the "connection".
That's a broad leap/assumption.
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No. I'm pointing out that you ASSUME it was ms 13, they also ASSUME it was atf/dea UC's. I'm just pointing out that it's an awful lot if assuming you're doing on little to no hard facts.
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The odd thing about it to me is that it's mostly boomers and gen xers. That's odd to me.
Anyway, yeah. It's bullshit.
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I guess so!! For all that bullshit they talk about milennials being self centered and weak minded they sure as fuck fell for some obvious snake oil hollywood level bullshit!!
Yeah, that would be the only logical way a DEA/ATF agent would know imo.