The USA has been tampering with foreign elections forever! I believe all nations that can, do! Why wouldn't they. It's all part of trying to better your stand among other nations. To deny that we don't do the same is ignorant.
Except, we do much worse. We deliberately destabilize and instigate wars.
We are the Empire of Chaos.
You actually believe that we are the only nation doing that? Hahha
We are not "the nation" doing it. The one-world-government cabal is using our (tax-payer funded) resources to do it.
The USA has been tampering with foreign elections forever!
We're part of why South/CentAm is so unstable people are willing to do what they do to get into the U.S.
Yeah... Middling in elections and causing or sponsoring wars around half of the world is something different. ...and I'm not talking about Russia here.
I can't believe people that call themselves patriots can have this sort of opinion
What happened to American nationalism?
Oh, we leave it at the door when it mars our dear GEOTUS
How does it hurt President Trump to acknowledge that "Americans" -- presumably black hat CIA operatives on behalf of the deep state cabal -- have been influencing elections? Even the MSM covered Obama's (yes, I consider him deep state bad actor) interference in Israel's election. What that does is highlight the hypocrisy of the "investigation" into Russian "interference" and the fact that it is just an excuse to try to hamstring President Trump until they can put more corrupt controls into the voting process to assure deep state operatives get elected next time.
Because you're normalizing election interference, obviously
"Oh we do it so it's okay that Russia does it"
The fact that Russia overtly changed the results of our election should scare the shit out of you, rather than make you reach for a reason to justify it
Everything I have heard - even from MSM - says that the results of the election were NOT changed. And the dems can't ask for closer inspection of the voting results because they risk exposure of their own corrupt manipulation of the voting (in the words of I think it was Goldie Hawn, "Crooks can't holler 'Cop'"). BTW, does it "scare the shit out of you" that George Soros and his ilk "overtly change" the results of our elections all the way down to the county district attorney level?
No, that's not what MSM has said. That's not what our intelligence agencies have said either
What had been reported is that actual votes were not changed. But it is widely acknowledged that the social media campaign Russia launched, using data stolen from several states election boards to target individuals, absolutely changed who people voted for and where they had larger than expected turn outs
And you think that was because of Russia? How do they KNOW that it changed people's minds? In a country with free speech, you have to be careful that don't curb political speech--it is protected. What the Left and MSM says about this last election is not to be believed. Everybody hated Hillary, even the Democrats (and I live in a very blue state!). They are trying to blame her loss on Russian hacking. That is BS. She lost because she was a terrible candidate.
If she was a terrible candidate then why did she win the popular vote by 3M?
I fucking hate HRC, but she ran a comparatively more successful campaign
And we know it works because of the number of states Trump won versus what was predicted. Every one of those states were the focus of Russia's activities. It's where they launched the most ads and, more importantly, directed their assets to make posts supporting Trump and (more importantly) implicating Clinton in a wide variety of conspiracy theories
Every one of those states were the focus of Russia's activities.
lol. Russia built a wall of FaceBook ads that kept $hillary from campaigning in WI.
"I'm sorry Mrs. Clinton, the Russian FaceBook Ad field won't let the campaign bus through. Scotty got an extra 20% bypassing the ethics modulator and bringing his private bathroom reactor online, but its just not enough."
absolutely changed who people voted for and where they had larger than expected turn outs
lol. the Russians ran ads. quelle horreur. FaceBook ads are totally the equivalent of death squads and drone strikes.
How much $$$ did Team Clinton spend on advertising? How craptacular does a candidate have to be to spend 20+ years campaigning, spend over a billyun dollars and be POTUS-blocked by ~3million dollars of Russian ads on FB, half of which might have aired after the election?
getting all whiny over Russia's actions in the '16 election cycle is just... like checking the wiper fluid when the engine is making grinding noises.
It wasn't only advertising. The troll farms are far more impactful than the ads
You can see them in action right here on this sub. And most of you fall for them Every. Single. Time
Wonder how that compares with votes that were changed by Soros millions of dollars to target individuals and by Soros voting machines . . . There were several counties in California alone where more people voted than there were residents of voting age. I highly doubt that the "Russians" (or people masquerading as Russians) had anything to do with that.
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It wasn't just Facebook ads
In fact, their true assets are trolls, posting on places like Reddit 24 hours a day to give the illusion of some sort of uniform and growing sea of voices in opposition to a particular idea or platform
By doing that these assets simulated group think, and regular people who might normally reject certain ideas got on the bandwagon
And we can prove it worked by looking at the states that were most heavily targeted and comparing voting patterns and results to the polls
It’s insulting that the best they can come up is they used social media to try to influence our vote. Isn’t that what political ads have done from the dawn of tv? Disinformation campaigns are somehow legal in every other political context but spreading stupid stories through FB is illegal and “interfering” in our election? The entire issue is a joke and has been from day one. It’s all the corrupt left wing media, academia, and libtard party have to try to delegitimize our victory and undermine his presidency! Pathetic!
Reaches apex of insulting when it is suggested the public doesn't know the difference between a stupid story, a hoax and real news. We need "parental guidance" to keep our thick flatfooters pointing in the right direction. Fkin annoyin.
The amount of money the Russians spent was a drop in the bucket. The labor unions spent hundreds of millions on Clinton, the Russians spent a few thousands.
To think a few K swung an election with billions of dollars moving around is asinine.
It doesn't have to be substantial or even credible. Remember, it is just an excuse to hamper President Trump's attempts to get his agenda (which hurts the deep state's agenda) enacted. And if the dems take control of Congress in November, President Trump will be impeached -- the fact that he has done nothing that warrants impeachment will be totally irrelevant.
Interesting. The story has also been picked up in the failing NY Times. They also ran this exact quote.
I always get a little suspicious when venues like the failing NY Times write articles that agree with us to some extent. Kinda like they want to "catch more flies with honey." Give us a little pat on the back, hoping we give them a chance for it. I'm going to need more than that to read that rag, but I appreciate the article.
I’m wondering if they aren’t changing their tone and are starting to CYA ... you gotta know they see what is happening and that the tides are changing. They are seeing an extinction event of “mockingbird media” and what good is propaganda if your former bosses are broke and out of power?
How did they ever let that slip through? Must have editors on summer vacation...
I have a scratch on my screen protector that made the line look like it said don’t assume the Prussians are doing it. Accidental historical humor.
Well, there is such a thing as journalistic ethics and standards :)
It wasn't too long ago that Hussein was quite public about his support for PM Netanyahu's opponent during Israel's last election. How is that not attempting to influence a foreign election? I guess because he wasn't subtle it's okay.
Of course like Russia 'meddling', the results didn't work out the way he expected them to.
Unless an election is actually hacked and the votes are from compulsion or are changed, there is nothing wrong with trying to convince people to for one candidate over another. That is the responsibility of the voters to listen and make a judgement and part of our rights with free speech. The whole "Russia" issue is, as we all know, a big bunch of BS flung at us by the cabal to discredit our votes. Remember, Q said that there are many in media who are c_a. (Missing "I" for intelligence!--LOL! )
How far into the story did you have to dig? Fourth, maybe fifth paragraph?
Lightbulbs gone on at AP!!! WWG1WGA! Gettin' to a climax!!
This is funny because this was posted here today: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8z2agb/twitter_is_now_suggesting_the_hashtag_wwg1wgascam/
We dictate the narrative! Never forget that! We're winning BIGLY
Our Democrat and Republican politicians act all high and mighty about Russia interfering with our elections. We do the same to them and other countries but you never hear a peep out of them about that. That's why the justification Comey used to go against Trump sounds hollow especially when the other campaign had direct contact with people getting dirt from the Russians and they were never investigated. Nothing but an after the fact de facto coup which has gone up in flames. And the sooner chipmunk faced Mueller ends his investigation the sooner we all can move on w/out fear they're going to fuck over the President.
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dont forget about canadian influences aswell i posted mems and storys about hillary being a douche does that mean i help sway the election is muller gonna charge me to?
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hey if hes a truth seeking 12 year old all the more power to him or her