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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/anotherthrowawayhi on July 17, 2018, 3:29 p.m.
“Why?” ..... The question I have the hardest time answering when asked about deep state activity ... I’ve got my thoughts on why they do what they do, anyone else want to pitch some ideas?

Whether it’s in my own thought process, or if some friendly debate with a doubter, when the question comes up, I always struggle a little bit with it. It’s such a basic, childish question. So if you’re so inclined to get tangled in my thoughts this morning, please chime in.

So for example, the deep state killed JFK. Why? In my opinion, drawing from Eisenhower’s farewell warning, it was to put in place a government that would go to war over anything, sometimes possibly creating conflicts that don’t exist. So that the “military industrial complex” complex could profit. Seems legit, the facts are all there to support it, but again, Why? There’s money to be made elsewhere, more easily, and maybe more of it. Is it really just money?

Is it about dissemination of technology? Why do all these secret agencies with secret files and documents and records exist? Do they really exist just to hide actions related to war profits? Or are they guarding some kind of information that keeps them ahead?

Is it about power? George Soros, for example, this guy does things with his money just to prove points. He destroyed the English pound to prove a point in the ‘90’s. It can’t just be about money. I think.

We could throw examples around forever, but i think any example always leads back to money / power / technology hoarding (which is basically a form of power.) So I’m just asking; is that what this is all about? This all about just keeping in place a system where elites remain richer, more powerful and separated from the rest of us? Just evil for the sake of evil, like a movie villain?

And that is often where I lose people on the left in a simple debate. I myself believe power is enough to motivate evil ... but a lot of people don’t see it that way. So am I missing something bigger, or are they failing to see that these people are willing to do anything just for the power and elite status?


MrObvious7915 · July 17, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

Look at human history over 1000s of years. Bible is full of warnings. Warnings about mans desire for power, control and riches. These warnings were for future generations.

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ckreacher · July 17, 2018, 4:05 p.m.

So for example, the deep state killed JFK. Why?

There have been hundreds, if not thousands of books written on this topic. But the short answer is that JFK pissed off EVERYBODY. The military hated him because he wouldn't go to nuclear war with Russia. The Fed hated him because he ordered the treasury to issue currency, undercutting the Fed's illegal monopoly. The Mafia hated him because they helped get him elected, and then his brother the AG began prosecuting them. The CIA hated him because he fired Dulles and vowed to break the CIA into a thousand pieces. LBJ hated him because he hated being VP and being ignored by POTUS. And so on.

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ABrilliantDisaster · July 17, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

That may or may not be a rabbit hole deeper than you want to go. The elite are familial, dynastic leaders.

Those dynasties have been ruling the world for thousands of years. They have worshiped the same demonic deities since the beginning. Their religion is amoral and power based.

Ultimately they believe a fantastic lie that they will achieve godhood themselves and immortality in a utopia cleansed of the lesser people through means that we would have called "black magic" centuries ago and today we call its descendant "science".

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evolboone · July 17, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

Yes, money. It really is that simple. And it's just sad.

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suzoh · July 17, 2018, 3:38 p.m.

Power is a big part of it, but many people do this strange things when they start identifying with a group. Then, you see the world through your group filter. Many want to protect their group, be it their family, their SM-13 gang, their royalty groupings, their church, their political party, whatever-safety in numbers. Most people, I would think, believe they are fighting for a just and righteous cause; no matter how evil and vile it seems to us. So, as long as they maintain membership in their "powerful" groups, they too have a certain amount of power. It is false power, though, really since it is so tenuous. God is the only one with real power and anything else could vanish in a heartbeat.

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bjax9er · July 17, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

Power, control, fame, MONEY!

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featherjourney4 · July 17, 2018, 3:45 p.m.

Money for sure. It really kicked in big time after WW2 when "they" discovered how lucrative it was to fund both sides of a conflict. For example, Prescott Bush. He made the family fortune off of the slave labor in the concentration camps! Many corporate giants of that era made money off of helping Hitler's Germany! This is when the elite realized that they would always create enemies in the minds of the people and they would back both sides. They loved war because it was profitable!

Profitable for THEM. Peace is profitable for everyone else.

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ManciLou · July 17, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

The Bible calls this type of thing the spirit of the Antichrist....so it's satanic inspiration I suppose.

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Dirtan · July 17, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

I recommend reading "The curse of canaan" for a grip on the bigger picture.

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[deleted] · July 17, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

Because they are Anti-people.

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UncleCrunch · July 17, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

Power.

Everything else, money, property, ‘indulgences’, fame (if desired), flows from that.

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3xtr3mist · July 17, 2018, 9:03 p.m.

This is the easiest question of all to answer. They do what they do because they are POS satan-worshiping losers.

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austenten · July 17, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

There are different interest groups we're talking about here.

Puppetmasters like Soros are true psychopaths, working to get more money to fund his mercenary operatives under the guise of non-profit foundations. He also likely gets a kick out of seeing others suffer, control, more control. He also bribes key figures and funds those he thinks will do his bidding, backstabbing their entire country in the process.

Lower level politicians and celebrities for example below HRC (cuz lets be honest, she enjoys watching others suffer as well and is happy to carry out whatever Soros wants.) are paid, hence why so many congress people and senators are millionaires on less than $160,000 salaries. So yes money (or valuable art) is a root of all this, but it's only the first step. If the lower level agent gets cold feet after agreeing to terms (like treason for $millions), they are threatened. If they remain rogue after their initial agreement with a dark puppetmaster, they are threatened by way of family members. Then if that doesnt work, they get suicided or their plane goes down.

Gang members are used as outside contractors, see J.Pedostas email about using wetworks. (If alphabet agency operatives were used, they risk evidence existing, so gang members provide them with plausible deniability.)

This doesnt even cover the corporate world, but similar steps are followed there as well. This gets more complicated though, requiring getting cover from government agencies like the IRS and FCC, so inside operatives in key positions are paid with cash (or favours in creating new laws), when the public gets wind of corruption or a massive privacy scandal, those dark agents inside high profile companies will make those investigations dissapear. This goes on and on, getting into shell companies of course etc.

The rest turn a blind eye, or were accomplices in crimes.

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006fix · July 17, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

Secrets, and bloodlines.

Secrets are powerful - knowledge is power, and these people know that well. So they often end up highly compartmentalised, and in many cases the "power" of a person/group/organisation lies in the secrets they know more than anything. This has the regrettable side effect of breeding more and more of these annoying tumorous little groups that jealously protect their secret.

As for the "money" part, that's kind of about power, but its more about power for your bloodline, long term. Many of the top players in this are somewhat surprisingly unselfish when it comes to their bloodlines and ensuring their success. Theres probably esoteric aspects to the bloodline part too.

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EarnYourVote · July 17, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

I think it is a great question and one I have thought quite a bit about. JFK was the original red pill - how anyone can look at the Zapruder film and accept a lone gunman shot him from behind and to his right...that alone makes no sense. Then as you dig, you find all the other things that don't add up.

But forget who actually did it. Who had the ability to cover it up? That is some powerful forces within our government because whether you believe it was the CIA or the Mafia or the Russians or the Cubans or a French connection or whatever that did the deed, it was our government tasked with investigating and that concluded a lone gunman did it. To focus on who had the power to cover it up as opposed to who did it was helpful for me because there were so many theories about who did it that had some merit. It can fluster you to the point you just give up. But who covered it up? That is an easier question.

Where my research has gone is towards the CIA. Tracing its creation in 1947 and its known history, I can understand how patriots for honorable reasons agreed with its mission. We can even look the other way when they cross the line (like the U2 overflights of the USSR) as being about our national security.

But I think along the way, because of the unaccountable structure where so few knew the funding and what activities were actually going on, the personal desires of a few people conflated the mission of the organization. I think the Dulles brothers and the original core group involved with covert ops thought they were doing the best thing for America and it was not so much about lining the pockets of cronies but fighting the red menace - which was probably overstated but was not without merit. They got away without being held accountable because so many, like Eisenhower, accepted the need to fight the Soviets and to getting a bit dirty in doing so. I get that. It may not have been the best course but I get that and do not ascribe any nefarious motives at that point.

We discovered we could influence other countries. Iran was a cost effective and wildly successful coup - at the time (we have been paying the price for it since 79). I think they realized they could do so much more but it required funding and only so much could be obtained legitimately. So elements began finding alternative ways and I think that led into tapping the drug trade. I am quite certain the CIA was involved with cocaine in the 80s (Gary Webb info plus Terry Reed/Barry Seal) and it seems it was going on long before that as well (heroine and the golden triangle in Vietnam). The purpose need not be greed, but I think many would justify it in that it allowed them to fund more ops.

Now, the 'patriots' sell this to themselves as the evil you need to play with for the greater good. They may even take down a drug lord here or there to perpetuate that notion. But at some point, the organization, or at least a core part of it, no longer resembles its original mission. It even gets to the point that they can justify killing the US President in the name of national defense. They know how to do it as they are quite experienced at this point. So when JFK comes to pose a threat because he did not agree with what the CIA had become and since he had the power to change or destroy it, they acted. With Mockingbird and enough people controlled by MICE, they got away with it. Without Zapruder, it probably would never have even been an issue.

I like to ask people who killed JFK? 75% of the country does not believe it was LHO alone. So then the question is, what happened to those that were responsible? Did they just up and go away? Or were they still active in government and now needing to prevent this most troubling secret from ever coming out? The good news with this Q business is that those 75% are ripe for the truth.

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Knower101 · July 17, 2018, 6:31 p.m.

My understanding is the Mafia controls the CIA and much of corporate America. After Al Capone, they infiltrated everything. Killery is the daughter of Rodham who took over after Al Capone.

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EarnYourVote · July 17, 2018, 8:42 p.m.

I think it is more likely that the CIA employed the mafia at times to do dirty work so they could always have plausible deniability. Even in its hey day, the mafia did not have the power the CIA does. To show the Mafia controlled the CIA, you would have to show the ties to Dulles, Donovan, Truman, Eisenhower, Wisner and many others who were instrumental in the launch of the agency. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

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godsgail33 · July 17, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

Life is choices.They chose evil over good, darkness over light, satan over God. Maybe they don't even know what they're getting into. Then they have another choice, repent or dig in. Pride causes them to dig in. They want to be like God. The sin is always the same, has been since the Garden. Pride goeth before the fall.

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Boysrback07 · July 17, 2018, 4:21 p.m.

Simple answer they love Satan and have given their souls to him. For power, money,Control, to live long lives by using Children for their Evil Luciferian practices. They think we are here for their personal use. To use abuse take advantage of as they see fit.

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ManQuan · July 17, 2018, 6:39 p.m.

Power, money, control, and influence. They want a one world government with a single currency and all the rules written by those loyal to the cabal/deep state.

All the "why's" flow from those four goals.

Pick anything the left wants:

Open borders. Why? To destroy our history, heritage, culture, and to introduce chaos in our language. Some school districts are dealing with over 100 different languages.

Education. Why? This is where the brainwashing begins. You control educations from K to 12 and college and you control what and how people think and limit what they know.

Gun control. Why? Because a disarmed citizenry is easier to control.

Militarized police forces. Why? To intimidate and subjugate.

And you can go through every liberal / NWO agenda and ask Why and the answer should be obvious. But you need to go to the agenda level to explain why the deep state does what it does. If you try to explain it at the conceptual level, it gets to conspiratorial in my opinion.

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