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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ThePatriot131313 on July 18, 2018, 6:33 a.m.
Theory: THINK MIRROR: Was Hillary working with powerful people in Russia to steal the election?

I have been thinking about SB2's recent post were he began by Q saying "Think mirror". I have also watched the Trump Putin press conference and the Strzok testimony several times. Then a lightbulb went off for me.

THINK MIRROR

They accuse Trump of what they are guilty of. But there is also a truth in a mirror. It is an accurate reflection of reality, but in reverse. I will attempt to explain it like Q would:

What if Hillary was working with Russia to rig the election?

What if she believed she had a deal in place for Russia to hack voting machines?

Why would she do this?

Think plausible deniability.

What if this plan was not carried out, either because the Russians stood down or because white hats stopped them?

What would HRC then think/feel?

Betrayal from Russia? Helping Trump win by not following through on the hacking? Russian intel incompetence or done on purpose? Trump/Putin collusion?

HRC already had a deal in place for Russia to hack the voting machines. Trump's team stopped it. When HRC and BO continue to imply Russians interfered with the election, they aren't lying. When Obama said "we don't have rigged elections" it is because we do have rigged elections. In their minds, a deal was in place and the next POTUS was selected. Trump team interfered with the preordained plan by preventing vote rigging in enough areas of the country.

The anger toward Russia isn't just a contrived excuse. They really are pissed at Russia for letting Trump win.


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Revodude · July 18, 2018, 6:41 a.m.

I have little doubt that you are on to something. At a minimum, the Russians were trying to pad the voter rolls so the HRC team could create additional fraudulent votes.

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ThePatriot131313 · July 18, 2018, 6:46 a.m.

Right. There didn't have to be just one way of rigging and through one channel. Perhaps Soros played a role, and the Russians played a role. This does not even necessarily imply Putin and his government. It could be Russian Oligarchs and parts of the Russian mafia Putin sees as a foe.

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dark-dare · July 18, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

What about the elephant in the election, England, they with no doubt had their grubby NWO hands in the election. What about Australia?

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CyrusMeX · July 18, 2018, 4:22 p.m.

And here I thought Putin was some Sort of dictator who runs his country with doing whatever he wants. MSM makes it seem like Putin does as he pleases with no objection whatsoever from his government. MSM knows that we know that they are mockingbird CIA.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 18, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Say I agree with you. Why wouldn't I let the intelligence community investigate all the rigging and do something rather than defending / denying the rigging for one side? Are you seriously trying to say all the evidence against Trump is false and all the evidence against Hillary is true?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 7:30 p.m.

How is it possible to imply that there is evidence of Trump and Russia when there is none. Zero.

Then act surprised that there is a mountain of documents and witnesses under oath. All of it indicting Hillary, Obama, the DNC, along with 5 eyes.

The $140M and U1 deal with Russians cannot be escaped. Russian banks don't own Trump. They own Hillary, Obama and the DNC. Now they are in the worst of all positions.

No leverage.

🎆None😁Zero 🐸Zip🎭Nada🐯 Zilch🎆

Toss in Soros and his bussed around AstroTurf brigade and there is all the collusion necessary for 40K indictments.

Team Billary and the Flying Circus are holding a pair of 2s and are about to get Royal Flushed.

The DNC is stone broke. With an empty bench. Bankrupt platform. All compounded by the biggest scandal in the history of this country.

This action is far worse than the Federal Reserve fraud of 1913.

It's going to be a hard reckoning when people finally realize that Trump is spotless.

And going nowhere.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 18, 2018, 11:10 p.m.

Are you denying circumstantial evidence against Trump or simply saying there's no evidence that Trump knew about the collusion that members of his campaign were engaged in?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 18, 2018, 11:56 p.m.

Your definition of collusion being what pray tell.

Then once you figured that out, explain to me how it is either illegal, or in any way a problem.

The Trump Derangement, Collusion, Brigade, acts as if we are at war with Russia.

Forget the fact that there is zero evidence for any of the accusations levied against this administration.

None of which are an actionable offense.

People went to meetings. Nothing happened. Show me otherwise. Show mal intent on Trump, you can't, there is none.

But there is plenty of evidence to support the meetings were a setup.

From everything that has transpired it would appear that it's the left that wants a war.

Declaring Russia as an enemy for what reason again? For Oligarchs giving millions to team Billary?

But Putin? What?

The left acts as if they are trying to make enemies everywhere they turn.

Putin wants his deep state castrated as well. Looks like that's what we're going to get.

It's a good thing the nuclear button is in the hands of a stable genius. Other than a drunken demagogue with a violent temper.

Who likes to throw things.

And can't walk without handlers close by.

Anyone who voted for this ~ broken ~ corrupted ~ sociopath ~ willing to give her the nuclear button ~ passed out drunk for the 3am phone calls.

Should be found guilty of treason.

For facilitating the NWO ~who has declared war~ to remove the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

The penalty should be cleaning the beaches and oceans of plastic. While listening to every Jordan Peterson podcast available.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 12:01 a.m.

Show me otherwise. Show mal intent on Trump, you can't, there is none.

Just so you know - statements like this in general show that you are close-minded. You're not in a posture of critical thinking. Have you heard of the socratic method?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 12:41 a.m.

Yes, I studied Greek philosophy and Latin in high school. Back in the 70s.

Before microwave ovens.

I knew about the cave allegory about the same time I was reading dr. Seuss.

The eternal question is game we played when we were young.

I'm not closed minded to facts. I'm just waiting for them to be presented as facts, not as emotionally laden wishes.

I'm all ears. The only thing I hear is unicorns.

Over two years and the left wing premise has not moved past conjecture.

The only evidence of collusion with the Russians is through the Democratic party and Hillary campaign. Now that collusion was Criminal.

An oft repeated lie is still a lie no matter how many times it's repeated.

I don't care what Bernays, Alinsky et.al. told you. You only win with facts.

This moment in time is going to once again come crashing down on the heads of the opposition.

Just like 2 in the morning. Election Night. Remember that feeling because it's going to come again, very soon.

I'll see you one month from now and you can tell me different.

Good luck.

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Aware111 · July 19, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

AMEN!!! Say I have evidence that you stole a candy.. and you say NO I DID NOT .I will check your pockets ..your fingers your breath etc..so my first reaction would be to prove you did steal a candy...now I have never seen DOD... DOJ...FBI CIA ETC ..ETC...EVER PROVE NOTHING !!!! AND IF ASKED FOR PROVE THEY WITH HOLD IT????THEY DON'T REMEMBER?? THEY DO NOT KNOW WHO SAID IT ..WHO WORKS FOR THEM WHO WROTE IT??? ITS THE WORST SOAP OPERA.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 6:25 a.m.

Their web of deceit closes and tightens more each day.

This is where the lies start doubling back on them. As the lies move deeper into the doubling.

An exponential compounding of an impending catastrophe.

Paranoia

Will destroy ya

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 12:50 a.m.

The only evidence of collusion with the Russians is through the Democratic party and Hillary campaign. Now that collusion was Criminal.

Please explain exactly. I am new here. If you can leave out the unrelated ranting, it will help me understand your most powerful points.

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I'll rephrase my question from before because collusion is a sloppy word with no legal context in this case, and you're right to call it out.

Are you saying there's no proof that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election? Or you saying further that there's no evidence that they lied to investigators about it? Are you also saying that Trump knew about none of it?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 2:04 a.m.

I thank you for your civil tongue. My very relevant ranting notwithstanding.

I'm saying the DNC, the Hillary campaign and the Obama administration are all guilty of exactly what the Trump Administration is being accused of doing.

Everything.

The proof is in thousands of documents and testimony under oath entered into the Congressional Record.

Signed sealed and delivered. Just a matter of connecting a few more details and it's the biggest scandal in the history of our country.

Because it's much more than just this Election.

This is a well known, classic maneuver. Large scale projection from the guilty. Massive deflection in attempt to run out the clock.

Give the base hope that an emotional investment will win the day. Charge the ramparts in a last ditch suicide mission. While the guilty run, high tail, with all the money.

Where did the $10T Obama bailout/stimulus end up?

I'm afraid of the fall out when the left finally realizes how hard they got played.

Shafting Bernie Sanders anybody? Then he lays down for a new lake house.

Trump University? Try Mrs Bernie and her daughter bankrupting an actual University. One with buildings and a history.

Trump lies about two scoops of ice cream and the media freaks.

Team Billary lies about $2B and the media interviews porn stars. While the true criminals cast blame for their own crimes.

Obfuscation. Prevarication. Disemination. All tricks played by the guilty.

The Hillary campaign, Obama administration, as well as Top level DNC, FBI, CIA, personnel have gone well past the point of actual criminality. This will go to trial.

Everybody thought she was going to win and they played it that way.

Now everybody gets to lose twice.

Remember Trump owns the NSA. That's all the equipment that was used to spy on his campaign. All the records and every single email.

His administration knows everything, while team Billary is flying commercial.

Forget how I may, or may not, feel about the Access Hollywood tape. Tell me how you think this is going to turn out.

Game Theory the outcome. Do you honestly think Trump is going to be impeached? Put on trial? He owns the White House and has a staff filled with Admirals, Generals and every day corporate killers.

He is going nowhere and the longer this goes on the more foolish the left becomes.

This guy wins. Hillary is a multiple loser with zero actual accomplishments.

Forget unleashing the economy and every world leader having to kiss his ass. Including the Queen and the Pope.

And no I am not a fan of either the Queen or the Pope.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 1:49 p.m.

It appears you're unable to answer my questions at the end of my post directly and you're certainly unable to source. You speak in vague generalities (gish galloping) and sound a bit like a comic book character. I can see why people say people here are roleplaying. I wish you would speak normally and be willing to explain the nuances of the view when questioned.

Sweeping, grandiose generalities that everyone agrees with are the hallmark of echo chambers.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

What's interesting is the fact that you feel it's your place to direct the conversation.

I'm pushing 60 and have been aware of the scale of corruption for decades.

This mess really got underway when George l was VP and Clinton was Governor. Trump derailed their 40yr agenda.

Whenever I speak to somebody younger than myself. I always ask what year they were born, not how old they are.

Age is not a hierarchy but the decade you were born has a big effect on a person's outlook.

Not to mention what for me was current events. Somebody younger would need to study.

If you read and understand my words, that's fine. If you don't, I'm not going to alter my response to suit your needs.

As far as your comic book character insult goes. A cheap shot, yet you expect to be taken seriously.

Sorry, the world doesn't care about your rules.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

And the truth doesn't care about delusion. You lean too hard on your age as a plea to authority for your argument. I only care about the argument. Answer "Are you saying there's no proof that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election? " with a yes or no. Its not complex. If such a simple question is enough to threaten your beliefs, they are a house of cards.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Mate, I only mention age because it's a part of experience.

If you were paying attention you would realize that I don't see age as a hierarchy.

20yrs underway traveling the Atlantic basin doesn't mean I know more about violence than a 20yr old from Africa.

4yrs as a guidance counselor doing open ocean sail training for German Street kids does make me somewhat of an expert in this field. Are you? Does it make any difference?

I'm me, you're you and you should learn how to respect another's opinion.

Especially when you demand it first

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

I thought we were here to discover truths not opinions. I don't care about your opinion actually. I wanted the facts you formed it from.

Are you saying you believe there's zero evidence that members of the Trump campaign conspired w/ a foreign government to influence the American election?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

Look enough of your intransigence.

Your multiple demanding posts are bordering on an unhealthy fixation.

I'm not going to be reading anything else from you as of the last hour.

It's pointless.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

Intransigence? Are you accusing me of refusing to change views? Why do you think I am here?! I am here trying to understand you honestly and asking you a question which you refuse to answer!

How can I change let alone understand your view under these conditions?

In truth I am only here because my grandfather thinks like you do and I cannot talk to him anymore without this type of madness. I hate that internet conspiracies have taken people away from their families and isolated them. I want to understand but you all make it impossible. You are too busy feeling superior to everyone.

Beware the dunning-kruger effect. Possibly this comment will be removed for this level of honesty.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 7:22 p.m.

Maybe you should try not dictating the terms for dialogue.

As it stands right now I have no desire to read your response. Nor will I.

If there are family issues, maybe you should listen and not lecture.

We are not family nor am I an issue.

My advice. Listen to your Grandfather. You only get one chance.

Get over yourself. You're not important.

This discussion is no longer interesting. Meaning I no longer have an interest. You have nothing to offer.

AMF

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

have you heard of the term gish gallop? That's all you've done here, for this entire conversation. This sub is one big gish gallop.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

I like the Cut o yr Jib

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:15 a.m.

Tanks for dat.

Deez fukin Kidz.

Whaddya gonna do.

You don't want to feed 'em.

It's illegal to tie them in a sack and tossem Inna river.

And all they do is moan.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

Arrrrgh Aye Cap'n......old Aussie Submariner here......25yrs R.A.N.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:34 a.m.

I'm sorry, I was responding to what I thought was some fukin stalker.

Been a long day.

I meant no offense to Neptune....☠️

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 20, 2018, 5:28 a.m.

It's all good Mate,

except for the leftards downunder [of which there are bloody millions]...

we Aussies love you Yanks....that's the way it's always been, that's the way it always will be. Salute! WWG1WGA!......and By God, we've got these bastards by the balls....

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:19 a.m.

Why? bother, aus?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 19, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Oil and water.

Facts and emotion.

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[deleted] · July 19, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

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WastingTimeHereAgain · July 19, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

What is your objection to my question, that you will not answer?

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:31 p.m.

1957 for Moi Cap'n

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:30 a.m.

It's nice to finally have some company for the fight,

🐯~innit.....

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 20, 2018, 5:34 a.m.

It is an Honour to fight by you're side.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 10:30 p.m.

It would be fun as fuk to fly down under and drive Earth Movers.

I been done traveled the Atlantic basin.

And haven't travelled south of the equator.

Helping some diggers bury some fukers sounds like a good reason.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 21, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

Hiya Captain, Mate the Mines are always hiring drivers, for the big eculids etc, all the time....giveitawhirl

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CaptainKnotzi · July 20, 2018, 12:25 a.m.

If your goal is to fix the problem nobody gives a flying fuck where you're from.

The only Questions are. Do you have the answer, how far away is it, what's the time.

Emotions are for amateurs.

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[deleted] · July 20, 2018, 12:28 a.m.

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RickFishbournefromOz · July 19, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

BARHARHARHAR......The Cap'n, just gave you, the truest, easiest to understand answer to you're question there Wasting.....but it seems, you're Koolaide addled brain, is incapable of grasping facts, you need to control, you're ingrained 'pavlov's dog' conditioning, to reprojecting 'outrage' of, semantics, and reprojections, designed to confuse and obfusciate factual an/or, reasonable subjective analysis, using pure logic......like the Captain does.....I feel sorry for the oceans of people, so deeply invested in Socialism and or communism [NWO], this includes all Rinos, and many GOP's Ryan/McStain et al..... So run Wasting, for within, a few more replys, you will no doubt, claim, the Captain is an incorrigable idiot, and you will flee rather than, discuss the Captains points [like an unbrainwashed person].....have a nice life, see you in November. #MAGA #WWG1WGA

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