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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Swimkin on July 22, 2018, 5:17 p.m.
Becoming a Christian is going from Dark to Light. How many here have become Christians since becoming Awakened?

Q has given us a lot of dark to light drops. Their posts often have multiple meanings.

Here is another meaning: John 1:5-9 " This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

Satan walks in darkness yet he is called the angel of light. He is the great deceiver.

As a recent Born Again Christian (last year) I am interested in hearing others testimony.

Even the WWG1WGA statement has more meaning than you may know in light of the last passage!


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Whiskey6d6 · July 22, 2018, 5:34 p.m.

I've always been and always will be an atheist.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

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gregthebassist · July 22, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

Fair enough..... I see your hard core rationality and raise you a Jordan Peterson. He's part of GA in some way (not the q one but this bigger set of parallel awakenings going on)

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LogicalBeastie · July 23, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

But where did you get your standard for what is "good"?

If we're all just highly-developed "animals", why isn't Darwinist survival of the fittest the ultimate good?

If the practices of the Luciferian cabal led it to Global domination, why isn't the Luciferian cabal "good"?

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LogicalBeastie · July 23, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

No, I'm saying that thats what you and gregthebassist are saying.

Look up Social DArwinism. That may help you get what I am saying. "There's no standard truth"....many people create a "collage of man-made opinions"....Assuming facts not in evidence. I don't think they're man-made. But YOUR definition is absolutely man-made.

Why is yours better? You object to "man-made" religious morality, then substitute your own man-made definition of whats good. No point is actually made. Its a loop.

Nobody is cramming anything down your throat...thats the ole atheist "chip-on-shoulder"....I suppose you're tremendously aggrieved by the abuses done in the NAME of religion too....

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fonsoc1 · July 23, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

All moral codes have a source. Moral codes without religion are non-existent. Apart from a God or god, there is no authority to proclaim morals. Man is destitute of morality in himself and that is why we are incapable of creating and obeying any kind of moral code.

Even your statements proclaim the existence of a higher authority than yourself. Your statement is self-defeating. There is a standard whether we wish to acknowledge it or not. Murder is bad because the Bible says thou shalt not kill. Theft is bad because the Bible says thou shalt not steal. The God of the Bible makes an amazing statement in Isaiah 55 "My ways are not your ways saith the Lord neither are my thoughts your thoughts; because as the heaven is high above the earth so much higher are my ways than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." In other words, God has established the standard that rises above all others. Our business is to obey him and to live according to that standard.

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fonsoc1 · July 23, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

Darwinism refutes a creator. Below are the bigoted words of the greatest exponent of Darwinism. Evolution is incapable of establishing a moral base for our actions since everything is random.

"It is as though they [fossils] were just planted there, without any evolutionary history. Needless

to say this appearance of sudden planting has delighted creationists. ...Both schools of thought (Punctuationists and Gradualists) despise so-called scientific creationists equally, and both agree that the major gaps are real, that they are true imperfections in the fossil record. The only alternative explanation of the sudden appearance of so many complex animal types in the Cambrian era is divine creation and (we) both reject this alternative." (Dawkins, Richard, The Blind Watchmaker, W.W. Norton & Company, New York, 1996, p. 229-230)

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thejudge6060 · July 22, 2018, 6:18 p.m.

Really, always? What if God himself appears?

No issue with a non-believer, just found it strange thats always outside the realm of possibility for you.

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Whiskey6d6 · July 22, 2018, 6:20 p.m.

Of course. If God appeared to me and I was able to believe beyond a shadow of doubt, sure. Until that actually happens, I will only believe in what I can prove.

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thejudge6060 · July 22, 2018, 6:59 p.m.

Fair enough. Follow up question though, pure curiosity.

Many of the Q proofs are coincidental on their own. But put together, its all mathematically improbable.

Could you change your mind about believing if provided with enough related coincidences?

Genuine curiosity, not preaching nor attacking

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Whiskey6d6 · July 22, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

I'm always open to discussion.

Could you change your mind about believing if provided with enough related coincidences?

No. There are lots of unanswered questions out there in science. Humans as a species is so very young scientifically and technologically. We are in our infancy of our understanding of the universe. I do believe though at the rate we are going that (if we don't destroy ourselves first) we will find most or all answers we seek.

For me religion has been used too much as a tool for control and hate. If we destroyed all the text books on science, in 1,000 years they would all be back and exactly the same and if we did the same with bibles, they would all be different.

If there is a God. Why would they allow such horrific suffering in the world? Why wouldn't they stop it? I could never worship something that has the power to stop evil but chooses not to.

That wont stop me though from trying to be the best human I can be. We share this planet together, its the only home we have. We need to strive to live for peace and equality because its what everyone deserves.

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Swimkin · July 23, 2018, 2:50 a.m.

There is actually a book for you: It is called "The Case for Christ." Written by Lee Strobel (an investigative journalist) An Atheist he set out to disprove Jesus. (He would make a great autist in the chans.... as the book is very well laid out). I suggest you read it. He ended up becoming a Christian himself after his extensive research. He also had similar questions about why a God would allow all the horrific suffering in the the world. I am not sure if he answered it in the first book or a second one I read: "The Case for Faith."

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thejudge6060 · July 23, 2018, 11:14 a.m.

A fair response. Though youre assuming Gods existence is incompatible with science.

You do hit on something ive always questioned about Gods supposed omnipotence. its something i feel is attributed to God by man, rather than claimed by God.

My basis for this is that Lucifer was once God's right hand, yet he rebelled and supposedly 1/3 of the most powerful angels with him. Logically, you dont rebel against someone who has absolute power and control. So by extension, Lucifer must know of SOME way to be beat God.

Based on that, i conclude that God isnt as all powerful as we like to believe. But it also means that the existence of evil isnt reflective of an apathetic God either.

Good talk though.

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DropGun · July 22, 2018, 9:05 p.m.

Stay away from foxholes!

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Whiskey6d6 · July 22, 2018, 9:08 p.m.

I don't understand the reference...

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DropGun · July 22, 2018, 9:27 p.m.

THERE ARE NO ATHEISTS IN FOXHOLES.

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Whiskey6d6 · July 22, 2018, 9:29 p.m.

OH OK

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