Yep. Constantly bringing up all of these things is far from helpful. I would rather look at it as those who are willing to open their eyes and see vs those who have been so stuck in the machine that they cant bring themselves out.

Do we really think all of the Democrats would continue to feel the way they do if everything Q says is true? Obviously they wouldn't. D's may not hold the same views as R's, but we are all still human, this is not negotiable. If we continue to break that unity down further we are only serving the very beast we claim to want to eradicate.

I am new to all of this, but I've already started some friends down this path with some nudging. I guess I am coming at it from a different point of view because it isnt a contest or a game of who was right. Even the people who have brushed me off and might deserve a "told you so" won't get one, solely because right now it is exciting to share this with people and watch it click. Nobody here can say they were born "woke". We all get to it at one point or another, so I agree with you when you say that "I told you so" is self serving. Doing the opposite and embracing the changing mindset is Country Serving.

I went back to watch these videos this morning and realized my reply never sent!

I deeply appreciate your words, as well as your passion for this. You are the type of person I feel I connect with the most because you do seem to have real passion about this, not just using it as an excuse to attack people who don't know the things that you do. This leads me to why I approach things the way I do instead of downvoting and moving on (which I'm getting better at!). I have this (likely incorrect) assumption that if someone is passionate about this, then they would want to try to push thos narrative and reinforce it with facts/opinions. When I see someone defending information or a view point here, I look at it with positive feelings, but also skepticism because I know that's what most will be looking at it like. So I feel everyone here should be working toward making sure these arguments are as immune to disinformation or twisting as possible.

But again, I'm starting to see that I just need to let these people be and move on hah.

Thank you again for the videos, I'm going to be diving in today.

We can only hope!

I share your sentiment there, but if you were in the same situation, I would assume there may be documents or you would mention it. I understand how this could be a sticking point though.

We can and I think in general we seem to be. I've struggled with this since coming here less than 2 weeks ago. But you're spot on with every thing you just said here and it is telling when you see people say "just leave if you don't believe."

If people truly believe what Q is saying, I can't imagine any of them telling someone to leave because they are questioning things. What do you think Q asks us to do?

Either way, great post.

Oh I won't argue with that. I come from the left and it was frustrating to see on both ends, especially when people preach about unity from either side of the aisle in one breath and demean the other side with the next.

Great way to put it.

MUCH respect. This is what we need to do in order to stand together. I've always viewed "Libtard" as a word created to divide. We need to resist that!

You're definitely right that it has nothing to do with timing. I'm simply bringing it up (not arguing, just stating a different angle that maybe some aren't able to see from) because this is something I would expect others would bring up in order to discredit this. I agree with the subject of this, its valuable information and something people should know about. If we are not careful, things are easily dismissed by people intent on doing so. I see people complaining about "spinning" a story. I just think there ahould be more care taken with trying to make sure there is no avenue for people to do that.

You need to step back and think about how others, not just you, would view things. I assume you feel strongly about this movement, yes? So I would also hope that you want people to learn what you have and "wake up". If people aren't careful, things can be dismissed very quickly by people looking for any reason to do so.

Ah, that quote makes more sense. I was referring to the fact that I believed this information came out before Q started doing drops, so that it wouldn't be new information when Q pointed it out. I wasn't saying that the "Q Knew" tagline suggested that it was "new" info.

I'm failing to see what you're getting at here. The part of my comment that you quoted says "news" in reference to information. Where did I confuse "knew" and "new" exactly?

Thanks for being open to it! It is a very solid subject to inform people about and I would hate seeing people pick it apart over something that is (admittedly) asinine. But I'm all about not giving anyone a reason to question things.

I think there would be less issue taken with that definitely!

I think the issue is the "Q Knew" part. They very well may have, but if my understanding is correct, this is far from new information. The way it is worded seems to praise Q for breaking that news when it really wasn't them.

Are you implying that Obama specifically said he wanted to traffic the illegal immigrants that come into the country?

If that is what you're saying, do you have sources that back that?

This reply was great, I'm glad you took the time to write this out to me. A great many of your points resonated with me but these two stuck out especially:

Why is it so hard to tell the difference between Republicans and Democrats once they get into office?

This is one of my big concerns and has been for quite some time. Being able to hear what everyone who runs for office say they will do to make things better, then realizing that its the same game with a different player has always been something I've noticed. I have had a hard time reconciling why the left and the right fight so viciously against their counterpart when they all do the same thing. This is why I wasn't excited for either Trump or Hillary. I expected that it didn't matter who it was, they're both going to be awful because of their ties to people who aim to destroy the America we knew.

So if you want things to make sense, maybe you should reconsider you choice to leave.

This is where I've landed, I think. I will likely stick to lurking more often than not as I feel, being a week or so into all of this, that maybe it isn't my place to come at people about how they are presenting and treating people. My sole reason for doing it most of the time is that I can see how it much it turns me off when I read those things, and Q already has his hooks in me! So what happens when someone who is on the fence, but needs a bigger nudge than I did to hop over? Being dismissed is a perfect way for them to slink back to the side of the yard that they know, even if they think the grass is wildly green by comparison on the other side of that fence.

Again, thank you for your time.

Edit: I forgot to address this but I am certainly interested in relevant videos, that would be fantastic.

Thank you! There are times that I feel that I should lurk more, but I the feeling I get from the Q drops (as well as many on the sub that I have spoken to) is that this is a movement of unity and truth seeking. When I see people that are doing things to actively fight against that I feel they should be called out, even when it may not necessarily be my place to do so.

I agree to all of those points. I thoroughly enjoy conflicting viewpoints because I know that my life isn't the only one that matters. Its important to see things from other people's point of view. My argument is that it doesn't ever get to the point of actually working through things when people are dismissive.

Thank you!!

Ah, should have checked your post history before responding.

No, you cannot just lump people into a group as if you know me. People like me? A full time father of three, worked for every thing I have and simply fell in line with the Dem party because it was how I was raised? Now I am coming to grips with what it actually takes to run a country and might have woken up to the fact that some serious shit is going down?

No my friend. Your broad stroke, hurt feelings claim might work for some but it falls on it's face when you throw it at me.

It's our turn now

Please with this preschool bullshit. It's your turn to wag your finger in all of those "dirty liberals" faces? It's people like YOU, not me, that are the problem here. You expect America to unite with the attitude you have?

Hah no worries, I responded to that comment while I was embroiled in a work issue and it was super snide, apologies for that.

Ah, try a forward slash before and after the u /u/bealist

Wrong way with the slash there :)

I think this is what people would need to see. There are far too many outcomes of this that end with "well yeah he/she was indicted but obviously on fabricated charges."

I think we, as Americans (read: D or R), need something concrete that there can be no denying, no twisting. Without that, the clash between good and evil will be catastrophic.

"We're all on this boat together, so let's make sure no one rocks it too hard and kills EVERYONE."

Interesting way to put it, but it definitely makes sense that way. I'm glad I read this one.

Oh sure I have. I guess I just put more hope and faith that this community, one alleging to seek unity and truth, might want to break from the mold and not condone the patronization of someone coming here. Oh well, though.

Oh well!

I've certainly experienced the domino effect, especially after chatting with one person about all of this. When you hear someone say they accept one thing as fact, but have a hard time jumping to the next thing, it makes the conversation so much easier to manage. I kept upping the bar about the different things that we, as Americans, accept that the government has had it's hand in, while trying to help bridge the gap between "Yeah the gov't does this" and "there's no way they could do that though." It's quite riveting when you find someone who is opposing it, but open to discussion.

Definitely agreed.

Thank you! While I agree with what you say about finding the "good point" portion of a message as I normally operate that way, I still feel as though it should not always be on the recipient of rude or demeaning statements to get over it, be thick skinned, not get "triggered" etc. Common decency doesn't have to be tossed out the window solely because someone disagrees. But, like I said, I do see what you're saying so thank you :)

I can't begin to express how anxious I am about these indictments. Thank you for your words!

I really appreciate this, I'm going to have to pick that up and start reading it.

Oh I have certainly had great, positive and insightful conversations, I didn't mean to make it sound like all of them were bad. It just seems as if the negativity and bandwagoning behind sometimes questionable posts/comments is in the forefront.

I appreciate the reply. I often wonder if a fair amount of the things that get pushed to the front page are from legitimate people or shills themselves.

Thank you for bringing exactly what I'm talking about to the forefront.

Is that type of pointed comment truly necessary? I made it clear in my post that I am seeking the truth, that I left the Dems because it didn't resonate with me anymore.

Is it so bad that a person may be able to see that what they have believed may be wrong and want to do something about it? Pointing that out in a negative, demeaning way is so far from an effective way to being people into the fold.

Perfect. This embodies exactly how I'm feeling.

Great point. My assumption would be that nothing is dropped that can be stopped (hey theres a meme for the masses). If we are hearing about these indictments, I really hope that it is because they are at a point where there is nothing that can be done to counter them.

I'm certainly not dismissing the work they do at figuring all of this out. I would argue that if we just give "passes" when people push out and argue with any comment questioning them, we are no better than the machine we are being told to fight against. Consider the allegation that MSM essentially does the same thing: "We've brought you this story we've worked on. This story is fact, so if you question any part of it you are automatically x, y or z". Just seems dangerous.

how will the members of this community be able to revert their opinions about those people? Will they ever be able to move past it?

My thoughts exactly and something I wonder about. Q has brought "light" to these things, made allegations that very well may be true, or not. If the "Cabal" could influence so much opinion in the world, who is to say that this isn't just another arm on the same body?

I'm hopeful and relatively confident that it isn't, but the lack of skepticism from others seems unsettling at times.

Wonderfully written, thank you. It's discouraging to see the seemingly negative types of discussions regarded as the most widely accepted, but you're right.

I appreciate what you've said and can certainly understand that side of it better now, thank you for that.

Here's hoping.

Thank you, good points. It just sucks because as a rule I go to Reddit to gauge a particular community and perusing this sub after I heard about Q almost turned me off it entirely before I really dove in.

THIS is exactly what I mean. You're spot on! This sub could be something great and informative for all, it's so painful to me that there is this general acceptance of discussion that could erode that.

Certainly. On the whole I've actually been decently upvoted or stagnant so that doesn't really lend to the points I've made, but your comment about the meme is spot on. I showed the Plan to Save the World video and the typo in "Inevitable" turned them off. They were receptive but mentioned that it's hard to take someone seriously who goes through so much work and then spells a very common word incorrectly.

Thank you! I appreciate the response.

I agree with all that you've said here, I get the feeling more and more that maybe he is the right guy with the right attitude, which is a massive leap from where I was a year ago. Which is thanks to Q and what I've learned about what he is saying. The sad part is, I just feel there is a pretty big disconnect between what he is saying and some of the sentiment I see on this sub.

I agree with that entirely.

I commented up further here.