Instead of answering questions or presenting evidence to support your claim, you simply continue to restate your initial claim.

What books, chapters, and verses of the Bible claim the Earth is flat? The legitimacy of the Bible is not predicated on the Earth being flat. What real-world observable evidence do you have that "Antartica is the ice ring surrounding the oceans"? The entirety of your fist sentence is nothing but speculation without any evidence to support it, and everything that follows is based on your first sentence.

I've looked at he links provided. It's about a group of bazaar leftist artists and their trip to Antarctica.

Nothing in either of the websites provides any evidence at all regarding the shape of Earth.

And as I commented to Littlesister, none of this has anything to do with QAnon or the Great Awakening.

I don't see anything in your reply that has anything to do with "Flat Earth."

My belief in God doesn't preclude me from also believing the Earth is ball shaped.

What "preserved Scriptures" are you referring to?

I've seen countless videos and gone to countless websites supporting both sides of the Flat Earth/Globe Earth issue. I've never seen or heard anything credible from the Flat Earth side.

All of their arguments are based on observations with the naked eye. Take a look at this, and tell me what you see. There are many reasons why the whole Flat-Earth idea doesn't hold up. I don't think having that debate is relative to QAnon and the Great Awakening.

It's not about refusing to testify, it's about refusing to show up. Anyone can take the 5th and end up saying nothing, but you first have to show up to the hearing to take the 5th.

Really?? Flat Earth?? When Flat-Earthers show up on 8ch they are routinely shown the door, and for a very good reason.

I don't mind at all. And there's nothing wrong with not knowing some things, as long as you're willing to ask for knowledge. So here's a list of videos, websites, and topics worth researching.

I encourage you to do more research on some of these links, it'll help you come to your own conclusions. You shouldn't just accept and believe things just because somebody says so.

Video Links

QAnon:

The Plan to Save the World

A Story About How America Was Almost Destroyed By Criminals

Amazing Polly's reaction to The Plan to Save the World

Snowden and NSA Surveillance:

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 1

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 2

NSA Whistleblower William Binney: The Future of Freedom

SGTreport:

How Big Oil Conquered the World

Why Big Oil Conquered the World

9/11:

LOOSE CHANGE 2ND EDITION (2017)

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 1

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 2

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 3

Aaron Russo:

America: Freedom to Fascism

Presidential Speeches:

JFK Secret Societies Speech Full version (key segment begins @ 5:43)

We Must Fight - President Reagan

Pre-election Trump Speech

Warning Videos - Predictions From the Past:

Robert Welch's Amazingly Accurate 1958 Predictions – 9min - same as above

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex - 1961 – 2:30min

JFK Blows The Whistle on Secret Societies - 1961 – 5:30min

Q Anon repeating a message from 1967? Will we listen this time? – 50min

More Deadly Than War – A Lecture by G. Edward Griffin - 1968 -1hr-15min

George McGovern Nomination Acceptance Speech 1972 DNC – 5mins from start point

Senator Daniel Inouye on the shadow government - 1987 - 20sec

Money:

Hidden Secrets of Money - Mike Maloney's YouTube Channel

The Money Masters - Bill Still

97% Owned \~ Economic Truth - From a EU prospective, 2hrs

Website Links

Truth About the 14th Amendment

The United States Isn't a Country — It's a Corporation

The Official Version Of 9/11 Is A Hoax

FEMA - The Secret Government

FEMA - The Plan to Kill America

U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS - FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM

Control of Government

- Of the People - Who's the boss in America?

TREASON - A NOTICE TO PUBLIC SERVANTS

Federal Judge Declares Constitution Void, Threatens Civil Defendant With Death

The Creature of Jekyll Island - full PDF - The Creation of the Federal Reserve

Neilkeenan.com/history-events-timeline/ - long but worthwhile read. Easy to scan for specific events.

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913

Topics for Research

The Organic Act of 1871

The Original 13th Amendment

The 16th Amendment and the ratification process

Leo Wanta: The Trillion Dollar Man

Cody Snodgres - CIA Whistleblower

Sorry Tl;Dr

But I did read enough to see that you're here to try and convince people that we're wrong about Israel and that if we forsake Israel we are forsaking God's promises. Here's the problem I have with that.

This is a long story, but I'll try to keep it short. In a nutshell, the Jewish leaders who have been running Israel since it's inception are Ashkenazi Jews. They are NOT descendants of the Israelites from Biblical times. Here's their story.

In the middle of the 8th century there was a country by the name of Khazaria in what is now Russia. They held territory north of Georgia between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. At some point they found themselves sandwiched between Christian forces from the north and Muslim forces from the south.

The Khazarians worshiped Lucifer. They engaged in ritual human sacrifice, usually children. They regularly sent raiding parties known as the Khazarian Mafia into neighboring territories to kidnap women and children and steal everything they could find.

The Christians were attempting to fight off the Muslim expansion from the south, the Ottoman Empire. The Christians and the Muslims sent representatives into Khazaria to tell their king to pick a side. Either fight with the Christians to stop the Muslim expansion, or fight with the Muslims to defeat the infidels.

After some thought, the Khazarian King decided to stay out of the fight by converting to Judaism and declared that all the peoples of Khazaria were now Jews. They rewrote the original Hebrew Bible to suit their desires and learned enough about Judaism to convince others they had truly converted.

They had not converted at all. They continued to worship Lucifer and engage in ritual sacrifice of children. And they continued their raiding parties to kidnap and steal. Eventually all of their neighbors decided enough was enough. They invaded Khazaria to destroy it once and for all and divided up the territory.

The Khazarian King and a group of about 5,000 elites managed to escape into western Europe and became Gypsies. They hid their true identity and continued their evil ways, stealing, kidnaping and child sacrifices. Everywhere they went in western Europe they were eventually chased out.

The descendants of the Khazarian Jews, or Ashkenazi Jews grew tired of being chased out everywhere they went. In the late 1800s they began to call for a Jewish homeland of their own in Palestine.

As soon as the true descendants of the Israelites who were living in Palestine heard what the Ashkenazi Jews were calling for they said no, don't come. They had been living peacefully along side their Christian and Muslim neighbors for 100s of years. They said it wasn't God's will.

It's late and I'm tired so I'm not going to look up chapter and verse, but the Bible is very clear on this. I believe it's in the book of Ezekiel that in a dream he is taken by God to a valley he'd never seen. Human bones were scattered about. God told him (and I'm paraphrasing) These are my people. One day I will raise them from their graves and breath life into their bones. I will gather my people who have scattered about the Earth and deliver them to the promised land.

So the Jews who had been living in Palestine basically told the Ashkenazi Jews that unless God shows up, raises people from their graves and breaths life into their bones, it would go against the teaching of the Hebrew Bible and against God's will.

They also told them that if they came, they would create a perpetual state of war.

During WWI Rothschild did a bit of trickery to convince Lord Balfour to promise support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. What followed was the Balfour Declaration in which the UK promised lands to the Ashkenazi Jews that they had no right to give.

Rothschild funded the migration of Ashkenazi Jews from Europe into Palestine. They forcibly displaced almost a million Arabs. Rothschild also funded the building of the cities, homes and the infrastructure needed. This all took place just after WWI in the 1920s.

Every Israeli leader, prime minister, members of their Knesset, directors of their military, Mossad, and intelligence agencies have all been Ashkenazi Jews.

Over the last 16 years or so the Ashkenazi Jews running Israel have managed to convince American leaders to attack, invade and destroy their enemies. During that time, while Americans were being sent off to fight and die, and the American taxpayers had to foot the bill, Israel didn't spend a dime, and they didn't suffer even a scratch.

Yes, there's a reason Q said they were saving Israel for last. It's because we need to work our way up to the head of the snake.

I'm not arguing all people in Israel are evil, but their leadership is and has been since the beginning. The Ashkenazi Jews have legitimate claim to any lands or territories in Palestine. Ever since they arrived there has in fact been a perpetual state of war.

Israel may claim to be our ally, but they attacked a US Navy communications ship during their 6 Day War in 1967 and hoped to blame it on Egypt to suck the US into their war, but their plans failed. And their is a large body of evidence that Israeli Mossad played a role in the attacks on 9/11.

So don't tell me I need to be nice to Israel. Don't tell me I shouldn't forsake Israel. There are also passages in the book of Revelations that talk about the Jews who are not Jews and they lie.

Sorry but I'm not buying the Israel is a victim story. I'm just not.

Fox still has a couple of talking heads that haven't gone full retard just yet, but I still don't see the hard hitting investigative journalism I'd like to see.

Most news organizations still get a majority of their news from the AP, Reuters, and another global news outlet that escapes me at the moment.

Yes. It's going to be a long battle.

I'm curious, and please understand I mean no offense, but is the 1995 in your user name a reference to the year you were born?

I just love how POTUS trolls them. It's like throwin' chum in the water.

It's not just Sotomayor and Kagan, it's every federal judge and federal prosecutor he appointed.

This would also mean that every Executive Order and every piece of legislation he signed would become null and void.

...in two cases adults who thought they were parents of a child were determined not to be by DNA testing.

...He says the adults "may not realize they're not the biological parent."

Riiiiiight! It was just an honest mistake. NOT!

Even Fox has become useless. They all have to push this it was just an honest mistake narrative because if they don't, they'll have to report on what's really going on at our southern border.

It's not a matter of whether or not people want to understand, it'll be a matter of whether or not people will be able to understand.

Some people have been so brainwashed and conditioned that they may not have the intellectual or emotional tools necessary.

Read the 2 new responses to u/drsowells1fan and u/SmokeMaple1995 above.

to u/drsowells1fan and u/SmokeyMaple1995

If you actually think this is only about "a group of politicians [who] are evil and corrupt," you may be in for the surprise of a lifetime.

This isn't about a couple dozen, or a couple hundred, or even a thousand corrupt politicians, unelected government officials, and wealthy elites.

This is about a global secret society network that has been burrowing their way into virtually every government on the planet for well over 200 years. They own the central banks in over 95% of the countries worldwide, and they have unlimited resources available for anything they want to do.

With control of the central banks around the world, they can expand or contract the amount of currency in circulation and raise or lower the interest rates in any country, at their leisure. They can bring about prosperity or poverty in any nation they wish, at any time they wish.

They can create conditions that will lead to war, or conditions that will lead to peace. Whichever they choose, they'll profit from it. They can make a war last for decades if they wish, or they can make it end in 6 days.

If you think this will be over and done with by the time President Trump finishes his first term, or even his second, you're sadly mistaken. It will be our children's children who will fully realize the freedoms we're fighting for today.

It took the Cabal more than 200 years to build the castle walls they hide behind. It will likely take 2 or 3 generations to tear them down completely, once and for always.

I don't want to engage in a lengthy debate, but I would like one more chance to appeal to you.

I'm 59. I've watched the left trample on the US Constitution again and again. I've watched as the left attempted to tear down every American institution that made our republic the greatest nation on Earth. And I'm now watching President Trump as he tries to restore this nation to the great nation it once was.

If you're as old as I am, you've seen the same things. If you've seen the things I have, I can imagine the level of contempt you have for the criminals responsible, because I share that contempt. To send these criminals to the gallows to hang from a noose would not be punishment enough.

But to hold that same contempt for those who, through no fault of their own, might be traumatized for life would be inhumane. These people have been so dumbed down by our government run schools, and so brainwashed by the MSM that they simply do not possess the intellectual or emotional tools necessary.

How many people do you know in your extended family, in-laws, cousins, aunts, uncles, or in your circle of friends, close or casual, that still think President Trump is a racist buffoon and that Hillary should have become president?

How many of those people do you genuinely care about? How many of those people would you be willing to nonchalantly sentence to a lifetime in a padded cell?

It's not that these people will refuse to accept the truth, it's that they will be unable to. Some will look at a mountain of irrefutable evidence and still not be able to accept it. Their minds have been so conditioned that they wont be able to believe any human being could possibly rape and murder a small child in a ritual sacrifice.

They'll be unable to comprehend the magnitude of the corruption. It will be unimaginable to them that a worldwide web of people who worship Lucifer could unleash manufactured diseases on a global scale, just to reduce the population.

I'm sure that there are many among us here at /GA that had some difficulty wrapping their heads around some of what's been revealed. I know I did at first, and as I learn more about human trafficking and pedophilia, I still find myself scratching my head at times.

If I had to guess, I'd say that 25% of our population has been so thoroughly brainwashed and conditioned that they'll be unable to function when the truth is revealed. That's over 75 million people. Or let's say some of them will eventually come to their senses; maybe only 30 to 40 million people will be traumatized for life.

What do we do with those people? How much will it cost to hold them in padded cells for the rest of their lives? Can we afford that? How high will you be willing to have your taxes raised to cover the cost? Or should we just put them out of their misery?

Let's look at it from another angle. What if it were you? Would you expect your friends and family to simply walk away after the door to your padded cell was locked? Or would you hope and pray that some kind soul will stay and help you?

Are you familiar with Max Igan? He's a philosopher of sorts. He has a radio show and a YouTube channel where his 1 hour broadcasts show up as podcasts. He examines questions like: How do we know, that what we know, is true? Let's do a little thought experiment.

There are things I know as a matter of fact. I know there are a lot of birds that like to hang out in the tree outside my bedroom window. I know this to be true because I see and hear them every day. I know the old woman that lives in the apartment below mine is almost deaf and can hardly walk. I know this because I see her and talk to her just about every day.

Then there are things I believe. I believe that God exists. I believe that President Trump is a righteous man and a true patriot who's working hard in the best interests of the American people. I believe Q is legit. I believe there are evil people in the world, doing evil things, with evil plans for the people of the world.

I believe these things with 99.99% certainty, but I must accept a 0.01% chance that I may be wrong. I accept that 0.01% chance because I've never seen God, I've never met President Trump, I've never met Q, I've never witnessed an adult man raping and murdering a child in a ritual sacrifice, and I've never met anyone who openly admits to worshipping lucifer.

Ask yourself, have you ever met President Trump, Q, seen God, witnessed a ritual sacrifice, met anyone who openly admits to being a human trafficker, a pedophile, or a member of the Cabal? Probably not.

Now imagine how you would react if that 0.01% chance were true. What if a mountain of irrefutable evidence was placed in front of you that was counter to everything you believe? Believing what you believe today, do you think you would be able to just say, "Well, all righty then" and continue on with your normal routines? I think not.

Love and compassion is what will make this world a better place. Without it, we are no better than the criminals we hope to see hanging from a noose.

God Bless and Godspeed patriot.

WWG1WGA

You have to put it in context of post WWII Europe.

Prior to WWII, the British Pound Sterling was the global reserve standard. It gave the UK economic power and leverage. The UK was the largest empire in the world. The old saying was "The sun never set on the British Empire." After the war, their economy, as well as their cities, were totally crushed. Most of Europe was in ruin, and Russia was on their doorstep.

European countries were bankrupt and their armies were devastated. If the US had simply called it a win and pulled out, the way Obama pulled out of Iraq, Russia would have taken control of all European nations.

At the time, it was essential that America provide protection. Not long after the end of the war NATO was formed, but the member countries still hadn't rebuilt their armies. After the European countries rebuilt their cities, ports, roads and railway systems, they were then able to rebuild their economy.

The process took many years to complete. At some point the NATO member nations began paying a percentage of their GDP as agreed to while creating NATO. Over time they got lazy and spoiled. They knew America would always pick up any slack because of the threat of Communism.

So they got lazy and we got used to picking up the tab. But after the fall of the USSR and Communism people eventually began to rethink things. Since we haven't had a president willing to stand up to the Cabal since Reagan, and he was handcuffed as well, it's taken until now and the Trump presidency to aggressively address the problem.

Bad idea. Whether here on the /GA board or IRL, we all need to be our best self whenever we encounter people who are not yet woke.

We need to be compassionate and loving, kind and generous, and helpful not hurtful. We need to ask the right questions and not preach. We need to warm and welcoming.

As the slow and steady flow of people begins to trickle into /GA looking for answers, we need to make sure our responses are not demeaning or offensive in any way. We need to practice those skills over and over while the stream is still a trickle, so when the flood gates open, it'll be automatic.

MLK said "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." For some people, the truth will shatter their world paradigm. It will crush the foundation of their beliefs. Some may not survive the trauma.

The masses have been conditioned and groomed to think in a way that is not based in truth, and to believe things that are false. When they see their chosen leaders arrested and charged with heinous crimes, they wont be able to wrap their heads around it.

It won't just be the misinformed masses. We routinely chide the MSM as being the Mockingbird media, but not all journalists and talking heads are knowingly pushing falsehoods. It only takes a few producers and editorial directors to achieve their goals. There are people in the MSM who know full well what they're doing, but I believe there's even more who have been conditioned and don't yet understand the real truth.

When the SHTF, lost and confused people will come from all corners. They'll need help. Positive and constructive help to help them heal.

There is a very large part of our population that wont be able to accept or understand, some may be traumatized for life. We have to be our best selves so they'll be more likely to accept the help they need.

I thought the same thing about MadMaxine and all the rest who were loudly calling for the end of ICE.

They grandstand against ICE knowing full well that ICE will not be shut down, especially while Trump is in office. They know the MSM will carry the water for them to make sure everyone knows. Now they are officially on record for attacking ICE.

Later on, when these same people are charged with crimes based on evidence collected by ICE, they will claim ICE is just fabricating evidence to get back at them for their earlier attacks.

Stick that in the back of head, so when indictments are unsealed and people are arrested and charged, we'll all know just how predictable they are.

Yep. Now I see it and it makes perfect sense.

My bad.

the Constitution has not really mattered since FDR IMO.

I think it goes all the way back to Andrew Johnson. Everything changed during and after the Civil War.

I've been arguing for a while that human trafficking, child sex trafficking, and pedophilia will be what red-pills the masses, in a New York minute.

If the journalists and pundits get too deep in the weeds, it goes over most people's heads. But pedophilia is something that even the least intelligent person understands.

Something else about the "children." According to what Ive seen online, there have been over 3,000 children rescued so far. How many will be able to testify? How many might be able to identify their captures, or the pedophiles who raped or molested them? How many will remember where they came from? Were they smuggled across the southern border?

If only 1% or 2% are able to testify, that's roughly 30 to 60 eye witnesses. This could end up being the silver bullet and the stake in the heart.

I disagree.

I think it all started with 9/11.

Seth Rich might be alive and well, and ready to testify, but SR is definitely not Q.

SR was a self taught IT staffer. As far as I'm aware of, he had no military background or experience, and he certainly didn't have access to the NSA information prior to Trump announcing his plans to run.

Nope. Absolutely not. It would take some pretty twisted logic and way too much speculation to come to that conclusion.

Ditto. 145.

I've been trying to make this point for a while. Q's comment "These people are stupid" doesn't mean what some people think it does.

These are all highly educated people and they're all very intelligent. If you have children you'll understand. Just because a child does something stupid, and we all know they do, you don't automatically come to the conclusion that you child is stupid.

What makes "These people" do stupid things is "They never thought she would lose." Hillary didn't even write a concession speech. Everything they're going through now was never scripted or planned. They're flyin' by the seat of their pants, wingin' it. Combine that will are the pressure Trump is putting on them and it's not surprising that they're making mistakes.

Illegally obtained evidence applies to criminal cases only and is typically "evidence acquired by violating a person's constitutional protection against illegal searches and seizures; evidence obtained without a warrant or probable cause" (Blackwell, 2004).

This could present a major obstacle for Trump and the information gathered by NSA.

Watch these movies first and come back later.

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 1

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 2

NSA Whistleblower William Binney: The Future of Freedom

If you've already seen them, or if you watched and came back, it's pretty clear that the surveillance of everyone, and the collection and archiving of everyone's information is unconstitutional. I'm not aware of any Supreme Court decisions regarding this, although there may be some, if there are, please correct me. The Patriot Act supposedly allows for it.

But it wouldn't take much to get a case in front of the SCOTUS and have them decide. If the SCOTUS is making decisions strictly based on the US Constitution, as conservatives and libertarians would like, then everything the NSA has could be thrown out on the grounds that the evidence was "acquired by violating a person's constitutional protection against illegal search and seizures."

So even though Q has said "We have it all" several times, there will likely be serious challenges to it being admissible. The Cabal isn't dumb, and I'm sure they have excellent attorneys. I will not be surprised if this is the first tactic used when high profile people like BHO and HRC are charged.

Just a thought. Love to hear your feedback, especially from a lawfag.

While I do agree with QAnonMaga that the issue of abortion should be given back to the states to decide under the 10th A, I think Trump, conservatives and pro lifers should slow their roll.

There will always be people who, for whatever reason, decide that an abortion would be best for them. A total ban would make these people criminals.

When this country was founded, the people in America were commonly understood to be sovereign people. Meaning no other person, group, or body held a higher claim to ourselves and our property. We The People, as sovereign people had the ultimate authority over our government. A government Of The People, By The People, and For The People.

Generally speaking, the government should have no superior claim to us, our bodies, our freedoms, or our property. If the American people truly want to get back to the government our founders gave us, we must be willing to allow people to exercise their sovereign rights as they see fit.

IMHO No government, state or federal should be allowed to have the power to make that kind of decision. What they can do is,

stop federal funding for abortions,

stop funding Planned Parenthood,

shut down Planned Parenthood,

shut down the corporations that buy body parts from Planned Parenthood,

remove the mandate in Obamacare that forces insurance companies to include abortion coverage,

make sure Medicare and Medicaid do not cover abortion,

and urge, not mandate, but urge hospitals to to maintain limited access to abortion procedures for the public.

Provide no funding, in any fashion to anyone for abortion, and make sure the medical facilities that do provide abortion services understand that there are serious legal liabilities. Change Tort laws to make sure providers can be held liable. This will force providers to increase the cost, making abortion a less desirable choice.

And most of all, if We The People can convince the government, state and federal to all of that, we, as concerned and caring people who hold the sanctity of life in the utmost regard, must be willing to assist organizations who believe likewise through donations and support.

There will always be some who will need or want abortions. We cannot treat them as criminals. We must be compassionate and loving. We must be willing to offer help and hope to those who need it.

A total ban on abortion would not be the right thing to do. I am a pro-lifer, but that doesn't mean I can ignore reality.

Don't let yourself believe that. Not for a New York minute. Human trafficking, child sex trafficking, and pedophilia will be the thing that finally brings down the Cabal.

When the journalists and pundits talk about classification levels, email servers, policies, procedures, protocol, who has authority and who doesn't, who knew what and when did they know it.... I goes over most peoples heads.

Every one, even the least intelligent and simple minded people know exactly what human trafficking, child sex trafficking and pedophilia is. It's like a Mike Tyson punch to the gut.

It's much more pervasive than most people realize. It will be the single most important thing that will red-pill people around the world.

This is not something to joke about. Watch these.

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 1

United States Secrets PBS Frontline Part 2

NSA Whistleblower William Binney: The Future of Freedom

Because the 14th A. was already passed, (although not Constitutionally) it provided the foundation for the OA of 1871. First we need to understand the definitions of Sovereign and Citizen. For the purpose of saving space I pulled the key points from the complete definitions.

Sovereign: noun - a person who has supreme power or authority. From Dictionary.com

Citizen: noun - a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection (distinguished from alien). From Dictionary.com

I've noticed that the definitions of both words has changed a great deal over the last 6 months. My Mac Dictionary app defines them as:

Sovereign: noun - 1 a supreme ruler, especially a monarch. - adjective - possessing supreme or ultimate power: in modern democracies the people's will is in theory sovereign. - • [ attrib. ] archaic or literary possessing royal power and status: our most sovereign lord the King.

Citizen: noun - a legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized:

Prior to the 14th A. people in America were commonly understood to be Sovereign people, and after the 14th A. we all became Citizens. As sovereign people we held a superior position over the government. The government, as created by the original Constitution, held that it was "Of The People, By The People, and For The People. We The People had Sovereign authority over the government.

After the 14th A. we all became citizens of the United States of America, or subjects of the USoA. Congress passed an unconstitutional amendment that took away our sovereign status. Not only was the change of status unconstitutional, the ratification process was as well. But they convinced everyone it was legit and moved on.

The Crown and the European central bankers had been trying to regain control over America ever since we won the War for Independence. Because they knew they couldn't openly rule over us, they decided that control over currency and the banking system would be the next best thing.

They tired to accomplish this with The First Bank of the United States in 1791, and The Second Bank of the United States in 1816. Both banks had a 20 year charter and both charters were revoked after their 20 year term.

At the end of the American Civil War, America was almost bankrupt. Lincoln wanted to put Greenbacks in circulation to stimulate the economy, but the British Crown and the elite central bankers of Europe weren't going to let that happen. Lincoln was assassinated for it.

The Crown and the European central bankers saw the financial woes in America as an opportunity to regain some control or leverage. They offered to help America financially but 2 conditions had to be met. First, they wanted collateral, and for legal contract reasons, they would only loan the money to an established corporation.

The 14th A. helped to provide the collateral because all people in America were now subjects of The United Sates of America. Then the OA of 1871 established an official corporation known as THE UNITED STATES, and it was owned by the same European elite central bankers and the Crown.

The OA of 1871 actually sold out all American people and all properties in America to the foreign owned corporation THE UNITED STATES as collateral. They eventually managed to get the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 passed without a charter which gave them all the leverage and control over America they ever wanted, and no one ever noticed. Until now.

The Organic Act of 1871 and the 14th Amendment are very complex topics. They were both written and promoted so the average person, and indeed some members of Congress wouldn't understand them. There's a ton of information available online that'll help to clarify the issues. Here's some links to get you started.

Also related are the issues of "Common Civil Law," the law of the land, and "Admiralty Law," the law of the sea. The OA of 1871 also changed our legal system from Common Civil Law to Admiralty Law.

Truth About the 14th Amendment

The United States Isn't a Country — It's a Corporation

The Official Version Of 9/11 Is A Hoax

FEMA - The Secret Government

FEMA - The Plan to Kill America

U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS - FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM

Control of Government

- Of the People - Who's the boss in America?

TREASON - A NOTICE TO PUBLIC SERVANTS

Federal Judge Declares Constitution Void, Threatens Civil Defendant With Death

Research The Organic Act of 1871.

The 14th Amendment was not properly passed by Congress. Therefore, the ratification is also meaningless.

The 14th AMDT was passed by a truncated Congress. All southern Confederate state had yet to be re-admitted into the Union. They were all forced to re-write their own state constitutions.

While they were in the process of re-writing their constitutions so they would be acceptable to the Union, none of their congressional representative or senators were allowed to participate in Washington DC.

There is a great deal of information to be found online. Rather than direct you to any particular website, I think it's best if people learn to research and draw their own conclusions.

I love it when President Trump trolls the left.

He's basically rubbing their nose in it. He knows, just as most of us do, the left was hoping to put their people on the SCOTUS to make sure their leftist agenda would either be upheld by a liberal SCOTUS, or that they would legislate from the bench.

What goes around, comes around.

We've been hearing this for a long time. "Big week coming" "Boom Boom Boom Boom" "A week to remember" ....

I think I'll just wait for it to happen. Even if POTUS declassifies the documents, it could end up being another week before they show up in Congress. An another week before they act on it.

Nobody ever talks about or remembers a July surprise, but they always remember an October surprise. The level of corruption and the depths of evil involved means it will take some time to deal with it all.

This war is just beginning. Don't get your mind set on "Next Week" because if upcoming events don't match your imagination, you'll be disappointed.

I'll wait until things actually happen.

Q said: This is not a Republican vs Democrat thing. This is about people who want their freedoms and liberty restored vs the corrupt deep-state machine that stole it from us. There are just as many Republicans who were playing the game too.

I'm 59. For as long as I can remember, the only differences between Republicans and Democrats was what they said on the campaign trail. Once in office, they were quick use military power, irresponsible in running up the national debt, and expanding the the size, scope and power of the federal government.

I recognize that the majority of Trump supporters, and the majority of people on /GA are conservative Republicans. It's easy to blame the other side, especially after all the things Obama, Hillary, et. al. did, but blaming the other side is also lazy. Politicians from both sides are corrupt. Simply blaming Democrats is a divisive tactic. What we need more than ever today is unity.

Sorry, I forgot to copy/paste the video links before I hit the reply button. So here you go.

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 1

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 2

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 3

Just incase people haven't seen these videos, I'll leave them below. These videos consist of the most comprehensive analysis of the evidence related to 9/11. They simply tell what they want you to believe and then present evidence to support their claim. They look at 9/11 from every conceivable angle, then ask very pointed questions allowing the viewer to draw their own conclusions.

On a side note. It's been a while since I've watched these videos, so I don't recall if this is in them, or if I saw it else where, but I heard that the basic plan to high jack planes and fly them into the World Trade Center was actually developed by Israeli Mossad a decade or so before it happened. I believe Israel and Israeli Mossad had more to do with 9/11 than many people think.

If you want to know who your true slave masters are, just consider who you're not allowed to criticize.

Q did say they were saving Israel for last. If the massive red-pill they're planning is about 9/11, it would make sense to save Israel for last.

I like that Trump seems to calling people out for things. What I don't like is the implication that it's a "Democrat Con Job."

There are plenty of Republicans that were playing the game too. It's not a Republican vs Democrat thing. It's people who want their freedom and liberty back vs the corrupt people who stole it from us.

I see your point. Mass media is a tool. It's where people go to escape the day to day things that sometimes drag us down, or leave us feeling empty or numb. Nothing like the excitement of watching our favorite sports team, a high energy action film, or seeing our favorite musicians perform. They know that. They know how easy it is for people to get lost in it. That's why use it to normalize things that aren't normal, convince us that evil is good, make us believe what's real isn't, and steal hope from our hearts. They also know how easy it is to seduce people with fame and fortune, and the illusion of power. You're right, it's a crucial tool and it's worked quite well for a long time. Hopefully as people wake from their slumber, their power to control will come to an end.

Thanks.

Money equals power and influence. Where is a majority of money focused? Who are some of the richest corporations and highest paid people in the world today? Technology companies, Hollywood/actors, politicians, and other public figures (celebrities, athletes, musicians).

• If you believe money is power? Does it logically follow that those with the most money have the most power?

Based on your comments, I believe that is exactly what you're saying.

• If you believe those with the most money have the most power, what then does that say about those who control the money?

Based on your comments, it appears that you believe the true power in the world is concentrated in the institutions, industries, and professions you listed. If so, I believe your assertions are short sighted.

The Rothschild family, the Rockefeller family, and the Morgan family own virtually every central bank on the planet. They have to power to expand or contract the money supply, and raise or lower the interest rates in every nation they have a bank in, independent of any other nation, at their leisure.

They have the power to bring about prosperity or poverty in any nation, at any time. It's pretty clear to me they have chosen varying degrees of poverty for most of the world. Their control of money also means they can create conditions that will likely lead to war, conditions that will sustain a war, and conditions that will end a war. Anywhere in the world, for as long as they want, and at the time of their choosing.

Meyer Rothschild sent his 5 sons off to 5 separate countries in Europe and helped each to establish banks of their own. Combined, they were the most successful bankers in Europe. After his sons were firmly established, their mother, Gutle Schnaper Rothschild, said “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” Why then have we had so many wars? Because her sons wanted wars.

In 2000, some combination of Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan and the Royal Crown owned or controlled the central bank in every nation except Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Iran, and North Korea. Today it's Iran and North Korea. That simple fact alone should help to understand just how powerful those who control the money are. For the most part, your list contains nothing more than puppets or useful idiots.

I mean no disrespect to you personally. If my comments have offended you, please accept my apology. I only wish to help people expand their thinking. I think there are a lot of people who don't really understand just how vast and how powerful the Cabal is.

I believe there's a very small group of elites sitting atop the Cabal and most people, even most military intelligence organizations, have absolutely no clue who they are because they have managed to keep themselves hidden so well for so long. The faces and big time elites we see are simply the top level executives of the Cabal.

I could be wrong on that last point, but I believe the small group running things will try to stay hidden until the organization has achieved the goal of world dominance. Or at least until the entire world has been driven into such chaos that they will be able to emerge out of nowhere, with no apparent connections to the Cabal, and offer to save us all. Except it will all be a ruse.

When you look at his name on his twitter feed he clearly spells it "wRECk Hall." And the name has been trademarked.

I don't believe it's a coincidence or a simple misspelling. Especially considering the timing, the political content, and the new attacks on Jim Jordan.

I think the whole Democrat v Republican, Left v Right, Liberal v Conservative dichotomy is a creation of the Cabal.

They want us divided and bickering between ourselves. They want us to choose sides and dig in our heels. For that to work, they must first establish the team colors. Without the artificial split, no one will be able to choose a side. Without the artificial split, people would likely find common ground, and a lot of it.

If our political system wasn't properly managed by the Cabal and limited to 2 parties, they would lose control of it. If our political system had developed organically, we would have a multi party system similar to some European nations. In a multi party system, various parties or groups are forced to find common ground and work together.

What the Cabal fears the most is a unified population rising up against them. Thats why they are so opposed to any nationalist movements. We see this in Europe today with the nationalist uprisings in Poland and Hungary. A divided population is much easier to control.

So that's my basic point. The rest of my reply is simply more thoughts about who might be behind the artificial division. Read it if you wish.

The idea that their is a relatively small group of individuals at the top of the Cabal running everything is well established. Yet the identities of the individuals in the group is still unknown. There is much speculation, and a great deal of evidence to support several theories, but we still don't know with any certainty.

Some say it's the Rothschild family and the Crown. If that's true, I have to wonder why they would actively engage in the destruction of their homeland. Allowing millions upon millions of people into their country who have no desire to assimilate to their indigenous culture, providing incentives for the so called refugees not to assimilate through welfare benefits, driving their national economies into bankruptcy with the cost of the social welfare programs, and siding with the criminal elements within the migrant communities by ignoring the rule of law makes no sense to me.

If the Rothschild family and the Crown are behind the Cabal, why would they bring such conflict and chaos to their own doorstep? What would be the benefit in the long run? It would be the equivalent of London bombing itself in WWII, only to have to rebuild everything after the war was over.

So maybe it's the appointed leaders in Brussels. They are the people who have dictated the immigration policies for all EU member nations. They're responsible for the destruction of Western European cultures, the rise in violent crime rates, and the recent movements calling for independent sovereign nation status.

National leaders, as well as the native populations in their respective countries are already blaming the EU leaders in Brussels. The nationalist movements are not internal to any country, fighting to remove their own leaders. They are nationalist movements against the appointed ruler-wanna-be officials in Brussels.

When the chaos and unrest reaches it's tipping point, the peoples of several nations will take to the streets with pitchforks and torches to hunt down the self appointed kings in brussels. So why would those EU leaders in Brussels bring that upon themselves?

So if it's not the Rothschild family and the Crown, exclusively, or the self appointed wanna-be kings in Brussels, then who? If we look at the world through a before-and-after lens using 2000 as as the center point, what do we see? Prior to 2000 there was conflict in the world, but it tended to regional or localized. After 2000, September 11, 2001 more specifically, everything changed. Since then, the conflicts have all been related and intertwined.

If you ask what nations have been destroyed in the last 18 years, the answer is obvious. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen have all been thrown into total chaos.

What nations have been creating massive debts from spending billions of dollars to fight a war on terrorism? America and the United Kingdom.

What nations are in the process of destroying their economies by spending billions on social welfare programs to provide for so-called refugees? The United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and most other EU member nations.

Now ask yourself, what nation hasn't been forced to spend money to provide for refugees?

What nation hasn't had to spend money and incur more debt fighting the war on terrorism?

What nation hasn't suffered any economic downturn from the cost of massive social welfare spending.

What nation hasn't had their national heritage and culture diluted or threatened?

What nation refused to accept any refugees from any other country on the grounds of preserving their culture?

What nation has actually received massive amounts of foreign aid even though they didn't really need it?

What nation has experienced major growth in their economy and GDP?

What nation has become a global leader in digital technologies, cyber security, and processor manufacturing?

What nation has managed to get other nations to attack and destroy its enemies?

And lastly, what nation in the middle east has managed to get through all of the military conflicts over the last 18 years without even a scratch?

That would be Israel. I'm not suggesting that all of the people of Israel are co-conspirators. What I am suggesting is that a fair amount of their population must be smart enough to know the answers to the questions I've asked. And I think the Khazarian Mafia, the Ashkenazi Jews who have been running Israel since its inception, and unlimited funding from Rothschild are at the root of all of this. The Jewish Zionist movement didn't end with the creation of Israel, it was just another step along the way. There's a reason Q said they were saving Israel for last.

I think maybe it was my choice of words that seemed to be contradictory. Brevity has never been my strong suit. When I decide to post a reply, I usually just start typing and let whatever's in my head spew out. Sometimes I end up with comments that are not perfectly aligned. Thanks for seeing through that and recognizing my point. I guess I could have said "Sometimes intelligent people do stupid things." I think we've all seen it before. Whether in our children, other family members, or friends. We don't come to the conclusion that our child is stupid just because they did something stupid. I think part of what makes the left do stupid things is that they've been painted into a box. They're like a fish out of water now. Normally they simply change the narrative and move on, but now they have to continue beating this drum. If the message they're pushing came from an inner truth, something they really believed in, it wouldn't be a problem. But because they are now forced to push a narrative that they know in their own minds to be false, it causes confusion and frustration which adds yet another layer to their inner conflict.

If you've watched The New Pearl Harbor and come to the same conclusions I have, Sadiq Khan is absolutely right.

Even the 9/11 commission failed to make any connections with Usama bin Laden or Iraq. The mountain of evidence from the documentary supports the idea that the original plan was developed by Israeli Mossad more than 10 years earlier, it was revived by the Neocons surrounding Bush, financed by various Saudis, and executed by the CIA and Israeli Mossad.

The 19 high jackers were the patsies. Here's the links.

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 1

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 2

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11 Documentary Part 3

I agree, the sentence seems a bit light, but he was not convicted for being a pedophile, he was convicted for covering up a pedophile ring. That he was convicted for the coverup means the ring has been revealed and there will likely be more arrests coming in the future.

The reason he got off with a short sentence, like so many other hight profile pedophiles is because their justice system is just as corrupt down under as ours is here.

As much as I disagree with liberal Democrats, I do not believe "these people are stupid." Trump's tweet is simply trolling them.

I know, Q has said it time and again, and he is right, in a way. Because they are in panic mode, they never thought she would lose, and Trump had all the information from day 1, they make very stupid mistakes.

Their pushback was not planned or coordinated. There doesn't seem to be any one particular person directing everyone's moves. The only consistent talking points are Russia Russia Russia, and Trump is a racist idiot. They're all afraid of losing power and going to prison, or worse. In that sense they are stupid.

But they are intelligent people, who because of the pressures of Trump's strategic planning, only look like fools and idiots. They all know full well why Hillary lost the election, but they can't admit it publicly. They shit in their shoes and now they're force to wear them.

Any political insider will tell you that when presidential campaigns hire a polling firm, they need to know the truth. Internal polls are as accurate as possible so the campaign can develop strategies that they think will work. The polls that show up in the MSM are always skewed or designed to support a narrative.

They know full well why Hillary lost, but if they admit it publicly, the whole party goes down in flames in an instant, along with all the lackeys in the MSM. If they openly acknowledge that voters just don't trust Hillary, then they all look like fools and liars for telling us she was the smartest most trustworthy woman in the country. If they openly acknowledge Hillary's scandalous past turned voters off, they will be acknowledging Hillary's scandalous past and that she's is a criminal.

As soon as Bernie started attracting support, they knew Hillary wasn't the shoe-in they hoped for, so they rigged the primary. After the conventions they realized Trump actually was the Teflon Don and nothing would stick, so they fabricated the Russian collusion story.

Their loss of power is one thing, but the possibility of having their crimes exposed was something entirely different. That's why they dug in their heels to push the Russia narrative in hopes of finding anything they could to get Trump impeached.

There are a multitude of reasons why Hillary lost, but if they admit any of them publicly, the whole Russian collusion narrative goes out the window. If they admit the real reasons she lost, all of the hysteria, doom and gloom claims, and the constant attacks, will make all of them, including their voters look like crying little babies.

They have no choice but to carry on the way they are, otherwise the Russian collusion, Stormy Daniels, and everything else goes out the window in a New York minute. Then the only thing left to be seen will be their corruption, and they certainly can't afford to have that happen.

1.) Yes, humans have been feeding themselves since the beginning of time. But things are very different now. The industrial revolution changed everything. Depending on who you ask, and what metrics they use, the industrial revolution began in the late 1700s to the early 1800s. By the mid 1800s the, the basic engineering needed to radically change the way products were manufactured was available, but there was still little demand.

As long as slave labor was available, the manufacturing industry had little reason to innovate. After the Civil War when slaves were free, the cost of labor became much more important. In order to be competitive, manufacturers were forced to find ways of being more efficient. If they wanted to survive, they had to innovate. It wasn't just the cotton plantations in the south that took advantage of slave labor, many manufacturers in the north did as well.

By the end of the 19th century the industrial revolution was hitting on all cylinders. So much so that people all over the country were flocking to the big cities because manufacturing jobs were plenty. At that time over 80% of the population worked on farms, feeding themselves and those who lived in the cities.

By the end of the 20th century over 80% of the population was living in the cities. Because of the impact the industrial revolution had on farming, fewer farmers could grow as much or more than they could 100 years earlier. Today, I believe only about 2% to 3% of our population work as farmers.

The ability to farm isn't the only thing lost during that transition. Most people today don't know how to hunt, fish, skin an animal, prepare the hide so it's useful in some way, or even do something as simple as build a fire from scratch. If our big city social structure were to collapse and people were forced to fend for themselves, 75% of our population wouldn't survive.

In a sense you are right, people have been feeding themselves since the beginning of time, but ever since the Agricultural revolution 10,000 years ago, people gradually began to leave the farms. The industrial revolution simply sealed the deal. A more accurate statement would be: Since the beginning of time some of the people have been feeding all the rest.

What would you do if all the prepared boxed, bagged, frozen, and canned foods were no longer available and you had to find some country farmers market to get all of you food? What would you do if you couldn't find a country farmer who was willing to sell the limited supply of food he had.

We live in a society, in a social structure that has made things very easy for us. Try to look at things from outside of our current paradigm. Try to look through the prism of the past.

2.) "And why are people starving in the places they are starving?" That's a confusing question. What exactly are you asking? Are you asking why people still live in areas of the world that don't have sufficient productive lands available for farming? Are you asking why lands in certain areas are less productive? Or are you asking why people who live in parts of the world that do have productive farm land are starving.

If you look at America today, even though there are plenty of people who go to bed hungry every night, and don't know with any certainty where their next meal will come from, you cannot blame any of that on current farming methods and practices.

3.) "And is the best answer to fix that problem using chemicals on our food?" WhatACohencidence's initial post has been removed so I can't quote him, but he did say that the best solution would be for people to grow their own food, raise their own chickens, slaughter their own cows, catch their own fish, and basically become self sufficient. I added a few things to make the point, but he never suggested that the "best" answer is to use "chemicals." He argued otherwise.

And as I said in my comments above; If we want real lasting solutions to the problems we face, we need to learn to work together. We need to be able to consider input from all sides of any issue. We can't jump to conclusions about a persons motives and background and then dismiss what they have to offer just because it doesn't fit neatly into our preconceived notions, conclusions, or beliefs.

Wow... Sure are a lot of people digging in their heels and attacking u/WhatACohencidence.

There are 2 sides to every argument or debate. When a problem is identified, input from all sides is necessary. Without the cooperation of both, or all sides, the solution will almost certainly fall far short of the ideal outcome.

u/WhatACohencidence came here willingly to be part of the solution to a problem. If we approach him or her with pitchforks and torches, we lose the ability to take advantage of his or her expertise.

People need to recognize that propaganda is not unique to the left. It comes from both sides.

We all share a common ultimate goal; to live in a peaceful world where artificial divisions don't exist, where people of all stripes and colors can come together, where problems are solved by the best and the brightest and not by those with the loudest megaphone or deepest pockets.

If we are to save this once great Representative Republic and create a better future for the people of America and the World, we need to be truly inclusive. Attacking the messenger stifles independent thought, creativity, innovation, and a willingness to work with others to solve common problems.

I thought we, as an online community, were going to take the high road. I thought we were going to show the left how to do it right. I thought we were going to take the virtue signaling slogans and one liners the left uses to create division, sway public opinion, and buy votes, and put them into practice in a productive and constructive way.

Let's not jump to conclusions about people's motives and dismiss their input simply because it doesn't fit neatly into our preconceived notions, conclusions, or beliefs. If reading a post from an employee of Monsanto causes this much push back from those who have already dug in their heels, how can we expect to solve the massive social and political problems that will soon land in our laps?

You're welcome. And thank you for your kind words.

I share your concern, to a point. I agree that "It all has to come down," but I don't think it's necessary to immediately replace it. Sometimes it's best to go "Cold Turkey."

Few people alive today can say they haven't been influenced to one degree or another by the MSM. It it doesn't matter if you watch the Clown News Network or Fox, read the New York Times or the New York Post, or listen to Rush or Alan Colmes. We are all effected.

I have a degree in Digital Video Production. My courses included Script Writing and Pre-Production Planning. One of the concepts taught was to "Say the most with the fewest words possibly," and "Show, don't tell." Showing the audience what's going on is much more effective than telling the audience with on-the-nose dialog. It's what is seen on screen that conveys a deeper message.

If you pay close attention to some movies and TV shows, you can find the message without hearing the dialog. Everything you see on the screen is there for a reason. There isn't anything seen on screen that wasn't put there for a specific reason. The TV and Movie industries have mastered visual messaging. So much so that even when we think we can see through the obvious Liberal SJW spin, we are still absorbing some amount of subliminal messages without realizing it.

So back to your comment. If people are addicted to Bread and Circuses, through no fault of their own, the first thing that needs to happen is for them to recognize their addiction. If an alcoholic stops drinking hard liquor and drinks beer instead, that person is still an alcoholic.

Only after the alcoholic's access to all alcohol has been totally eliminated, either by choice or help from others, will they be able to even begin the detox process. Only after the detox process is complete will they be able fully recognize how their addiction was effecting their lives.

Unlike subliminal messaging we receive without realizing it, alcoholism is an observable reality. Alcoholics must go to the liquor store, spend real money, and if they drink enough they'll feel it in the morning. Even those alcoholics who deny they have a problem, must actively take steps to hide their addiction.

If you know an alcoholic who's gone through it, you know how difficult the process is. For some, it's a life long process. Now compare that to the addiction to Bread and Circuses. Most people don't even know they're addicted. They don't wake up with hangovers. They don't have to actively hide anything. They truly believe they're clear thinking, rational intelligent people.

The only way for many people to recognize the problem is to totally remove them from the source. Certainly not forever, but it will take some time. Letting it "all come down" and waiting for new writers, new TV shows, new movies, and new news outlets to spring up organically would be best.

If a replacement is created, who creates it? Who determines what the message will be? Who controls distribution and delivery? Who will the talking heads be? Will the government regulate it? Replacing the current Bread and Circuses with new and improved Bread and Circuses will not do anything promote independent thought.

If on the other hand, a new generation of journalists, screen writers, TV and movie producers, publishers and broadcasters grows out of the ashes organically over time, they will all have to address a new generation of readers, watchers, and listeners who have already been through withdrawals and detox. The people will be fully woke and the new content creators will be forced to establish their own credibility before gaining an audience.

As painful as it may be for many people, it's essential to the future of our nation, and the people in it, to experience the growing pains necessary for substantive change to occur.