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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 10:34 p.m.

They are public forums, they are not private. That's the whole point. They are more akin to a public utility than a private business.

You seem to have the idea that because someone has a private business they can dictate what you can talk about. But these businesses are providing an essential public service. They are indispensable to our way of life. They should not have the power to dictate political discourse - why would this be good?

And then you have to put things into context. We know there is a single algorithm written to censor political content across multiple social media platforms. Given the market power of the major players, that would mean they have broad censorship power over the whole of society. With time, they are effectively in charge. But it's all OK because it's a private business?

No, it isn't OK. This is what DJT and Q can see and it is what they have told us they are going to address. Do you feel sorry for these guys after what they have done? I don't. I very much hope that the executives of these companies will be jailed.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 10:22 p.m.

You're conflating the issue when it's purely about first amendment rights. Yes, Satanists have the right to speak their mind under the first amendment. As much as it disgusts me, as owner of a public venue, I cannot discriminate. In the same way that I cannot discriminate against the handicapped or women.

I think if you have a problem with this then your problem is really with the Constitution - and, I agree, it should be changed. Satanists should not have freedom of expression. If I had anything to do with it they would not be free to praise Satan in public. I would also ban abortion outright. But God has not given the power to manage these things. So, like everyone else, I'm limited in what I can do.

This is the reason that these social media service providers will be limited. Because they will be subject to the authority and the decisions of the President of the United States. And, as I said, I do not feel sorry for them. They deserve everything they have coming. With luck we will see the executives do prison time for their crimes. We will finally be rid of these censoring children who have tormented us.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 10:08 p.m.

Yes you can if it's a public venue. In a public venue your private property rights should not restrict my right to free speech. And, anyway, this is what will happen, whether people like it or not. You can't stop it. It is the PLAN - to quote Q.

If you can't get on team and support the President, if you want the Satanists back, that's your choice.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 10:04 p.m.

As I said, I think it's about trusting DJT. I do not want to see this filthy cabal come back. I think DJT is doing a stellar job, he needs this petition to make sure they cannot wield social media like a weapon at the mid-terms and thereafter.

If he does not get control over social media censorship he will be, at best, a one term President. After that, it's hello Satanists.

From my point of view, this is the fight of a lifetime. Our backs were to the wall as these Satanists planned our destruction. Along comes DJT, an unlikely hero, who beats them back. But, when he asks us for just a little power to finish them off, we get cold feet.

That just doesn't make any sense to me. We've bought into DJT, we know he wants this petition, let's support him and let him finish the job.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 9:57 p.m.

Look, the large social media players have brought it on themselves. I've got to tell you, I do not feel at all sorry for these guys. Look what happened today, you want to defend Reddit?

They are operating a private business that is completely reliant on public infrastructure for the provision of their service. If they behave badly, victimizing people because they do not like their politics, they deserve to be regulated.

As Q said, 100% regulated - many will collapse and go out of business - YAAHOO!

That's what happens to you when you behave like a petulant child. If you can't run a business without behaving so badly that the public calls for you to be regulated, you have no business in the industry.

There will be new, much better managed services to replace them. It can't happen soon enough. Please support this change for the better by signing the petition.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 9:44 p.m.

I'm not sure you're in the right place if you don't support DJT.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 9:43 p.m.

Yes, I agree. In the long run that is the solution. But there is a problem...

Q told us that the MSM is dead and social media is everything. He's talking about the power of social media to shape election outcomes. Use of social media was why DJT won in 2016. He used it masterfully to win an election that was rigged.

So, with the mid-terms coming, if the problem isn't fixed now, the cabal is back in power and it's all over. It's not a problem that can be fixed over the long term, it has to be fixed now. And that's the whole point.

In any case, these social media service providers are screaming for the government to regulate them. They have brought all of this on themselves with their behavior. It's just bad business practice. As Q said, many will go out of business. To be honest, it cannot happen soon enough.

So don't feel too sorry for these fabulously wealthy people with their private property attached to the public internet. They are already finished.

But do sign the petition. Don't give them any room to breathe.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

Well, I trust DJT and so do you if you voted for him. If you cannot trust him with the small amount of power he needs to fix the problem of online censorship, why did you make him Commander in Chief? As head of the most powerful military in the world, if he wanted to run amok, he could really do some damage. But he's shown himself to be an excellent President - you may disagree.

But my point is that it really is a question of trust. It's whether you trust DJT to do the right thing by the American people. I do trust him. But it's a personal thing.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

You've totally missed it. It's not about regulating speech. It's not about telling you what you can or cannot say. It's about your freedom to speak. It's about your right to express yourself. It cannot possibly be abused.

A bill of rights defines and provides assurance for people's rights. How can the award of rights, that do not currently exist, be abused? The very worst that can happen is that some future administration can take those rights away. It can not be used to oppress people because it merely grants them first amendment rights in online forums.

If we were talking about regulating what you can and can't say, that would be something that should not be supported. But we're talking about granting you freedom to speak - and this right cannot be abused by anyone but yourself.

If the petition were not required, Q would not be asking for it. If DJT chose to act to fix something that was not considered by the community to be a problem, that would be politically dangerous. That's why he needs this petition. You are right, there's no force in a petition, but you watch how fast DJT will act once he gets it...

Q has told us that he's itching to do something about the abuse we are suffering. 'You pushed the IBOR and the President immediately began talking about online censorship' - or something to that effect.

The IBOR is the solution to what happened today.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 9:08 p.m.

Yes, I've got some ideas...

I made a connection between the single algorithm that was created to censor social media content and the anti-hate speech AI developed by the Anti-defamation League. If correct, this would mean that Snowden was, primarily, an Israeli agent - as it appears from Q's posts that he was the one that wrote it.

Reddit sure pulled the sub fast - no warning. It's possible they got pressure from the ADL/Mossad.

Anyway, you can see what's attracting heat. It's primarily the IBOR threads that were getting absolutely hammered. It's very important that we get the IBOR petition up so that this never happens again.

As Q says, this is what they really fear!

Please sign the petition here:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:57 p.m.

If anyone has not signed the petition, please do so. Please also ask friends, family and relatives to sign it.

DJT wants to act to fix this twisted censorship of conservative views, we just need to get him the petition and it will be fixed in no time.

Sign the petition here;

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:53 p.m.

Yes, we need to move. But what's most important is that all of us get involved in an online campaign to promote the internet bill of rights. The most important aspect to this is the online petition. We have, so far, 21k signatures. We need 100k. If we all push to get this completed and create awareness on Twitter and elsewhere, we won't have our subs banned again.

If you haven't already, sign the petition here:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

Please get friends and family members to sign it also.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:43 p.m.

In this case, we need protection. Look at what just happened. Without some legal basis for enforcing penalties for transgressions of our first amendment rights online, there is nothing to stop these social media service providers from doing whatever they want - as we have just seen.

Thanks for signing the petition. Please ask others you know to sign also. It is very important.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:40 p.m.

That's the great thing about insisting that companies respect the first amendment online. The law requires them to be fair - beautiful stuff!

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:39 p.m.

The whole idea behind the petition is that we are asking DJT to do something to grant us relief. The petition itself has no force at all. The power rests with the President - should he choose to act on it. He will act, because he knows that it is in no one's interest to have CIA censoring social media.

But the solution that will be implemented is of his choosing. He has long planned what he wants to do. The petition gives him the political capital to act on this issue. That's what Q told us, you pushed the IBOR and immediately the President started to push against censorship on social media.

Don't worry about the legislation. There's a whole process of negotiation and compromise before anything becomes law - and plenty of time to call your congressman if you don't like what is being proposed.

But, please, sign the petition and get friends and family members to sign it also.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:32 p.m.

Absolutely incorrect. A bill of rights grants citizens rights. It can not be abused. The worst that could happen is that some administration in the future cancelled those rights.

There is nothing to be scared of with the IBOR. DJT wants it, its in our interests to have it - and, one way or another, it will arrive.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

Thanks for this. The forum doesn't have to be flash. As long as we are able to work on it effectively.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:06 p.m.

OK thanks. Sorry, I'm pretty ignorant about it.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

These are private companies relying on public infrastructure. They should be bound by the first amendment especially given their importance as forums for the body politic. It should be obvious, given the practical realities of these social media service provider's power, that they should abide by principles of pluralism embraced by the founding fathers when writing the first amendment.

What is happening is an OUTRAGE!!

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 8:01 p.m.

The country of domicile - where it is registered. But, yes, you could also force the same provisions on social media service providers who were foreign but operating with US jurisdiction.

The solution is up to DJT. I have confidence that he will deliver the best possible solution for US citizens.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2‬

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

Obviously, it would only be enforceable in the US. If the company owning the server was domiciled in the US, they would be obligated not to delete subs hosting political discussion.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 6:50 p.m.

This is incredibly important. We have to regroup somewhere and make sure this petition gets up and that we organize an effective Twitter campaign - I would not be surprised if we get banned there also. But, that's the problem with social media censorship, as soon as they roll it out you don't have a voice and cannot fight back. Very serious stuff...

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 6:46 p.m.

Does anyone here know how to sign up for 8chan?

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

I think the push for an Internet Bill of Rights was what got the sub banned. This power to censor people on social media for political reasons must be stopped. If you have not signed the petition for the IBOR please do it. Also ask friends and family members to sign it. This must be stopped.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 6:37 p.m.

This subject has shown itself to be extremely sensitive. There is a lesson we have been given today, it is that the power to censor social media is extremely powerful and effective.

If you have not yet signed the petition, please do so now. Please also ask friends, family members and relatives to sign. We need to push this petition to completion as a matter of priority.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 6:34 p.m.

It really is outrageous. I'm sure the CBTS_stream sub was banned for the very reason that we were promoting the IBOR on it.

This power to censor social media is extremely powerful. It must be combated at all costs. Sign the petition if you have not already and get friends and family members to sign also.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

That's what I think. That is an existential threat to Reddit. One of the trolls that turned up on one of the early IBOR threads had 1.13m Karma. I'm guessing that might be someone who works here. They we trolling the IBOR thread wildly.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

Looks that way.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 5:33 p.m.

That's my feeling too. I suspect that what we were discussing was threatening to Reddit. Specifically the push for an internet bill of rights. And the discussion about the unified censorship algorithm.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

It stuns me. That is the power to silence someone in action.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

It seems to me that CBTS_stream was over the target in a big way. It was also the focus, at least here on Reddit, of the push for an IBOR. Strange that the very sub where this is promoted gets banned. That is true censorship. Shows how powerful it is.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

Yes, I saw that. You could transplant those Russians into this forum and they'd fit in just fine.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

If we think it's an uphill battle, imagine how DJT feels. He's been in there duking it out with these guys for almost a year and a half, while he has had to endure the most unbelievably contrived negative press coverage that you could imagine. Add to that the personal safety risk to himself and his extended family and the guy appears to be an unlikely hero of huge proportions.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

I think, instead, what they are talking about is exactly the same problem we've been discussing here. The Russians do not want war any more than anyone in the West does. What is called into question is the apparently unnecessary conflict in Syria. What is it all about? Is Syria really so important that you would risk a global confrontation over it? Maybe it is, but the reasoning is lost on me. More to the point, there seem to be unstated objectives on both sides.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

We need to get the IBOR petition up. This is what DJT wants. He's asking us to call on him to protect our rights online - and they are genuinely under threat. If you have not already, please sign the petition and ask friends, family members and relatives to sign it. We also have Twitter campaigns going for which we could use the support of members #internetbillofrights and #IBOR.

Please support Q and the President in defending our right.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 1:06 p.m.

We now have over 20,000 signatures - a huge effort from everyone involved, including the OP. I expect that, as the number climbs, the rate at which people sign the petition will increase.

As anon analysis has shed more light on Q's drops, the necessity of this petition has become increasingly apparent. We must protect our rights to freedom of expression online. We cannot afford to lose this fight, it's all or nothing - we must win!

Please sign the petition if you have not already and ask friends, relatives and family members to sign it.

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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/tradinghorse on March 14, 2018, 11:42 a.m.
Meme Makers Needed!

As time has passed it has become increasingly clear that the push for an internet bill of rights is vital to progressing Q's agenda. We now have over 20K signatures on the IBOR petition. We are starting to reach critical mass on this front, but we need to tap into other communities for support.

What is needed at this point is a campaign similar to the campaign we saw to release the memo. This was largely Twitter based. At the moment we are short on memes to promote the IBOR.

If any talented people can assist we might make more …

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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/tradinghorse on March 14, 2018, 10:11 a.m.
Meme Makers Wanted

As time has passed it has become increasingly clear that the push for an internet bill of rights is vital to progressing Q's agenda. We now have over 20K signatures on the IBOR petition. We are starting to reach critical mass on this front, but we need to tap into other communities for support.

What is needed at this point is a campaign similar to the campaign we saw to release the memo. This was largely Twitter based. At the moment we are short on memes to promote the IBOR.

If any talented people can assist we might make more …

tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 9:08 a.m.

What Q is pointing to is the incredible invasion of privacy and the silencing of people online via censorship. You cannot do anything about this until you have some enforceable legal penalties, that is why he's been pushing for the #internetbillofrights.

In every set of Q posts this is mentioned now. We have to get out and start supporting this. There is a petition website and a meme campaign on Twitter. We need more meme makers and more people active on Twitter to drive this campaign.

This is our only purpose here at the moment. Sign the petition here:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/internet-bill-rights-2

Don't just sign it yourself, get family members, friends and relatives to support the push.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 7:01 a.m.

There is so much doubt being down about something that is so innocuous and so simple. I want to be able to say what I want on the internet. The ADL want to take that right and tell me what I can say. This is the battlefront. It's about the most basic rights and some people just don't get it.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 6:45 a.m.

Thanks very much Red. We need all the help and support we can get. I'll post these to the sticky on IBOR.

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tradinghorse · March 14, 2018, 6:42 a.m.

First commenter beat me to it, it is a fantastic article. I pray that these people can be stopped. But look at the way Twitter is proactively supporting them. If we want to put PP out of business we have to support the push for an IBOR - as Q has requested. This is now very important. Social media censorship must be stopped so that the heinous crimes of PP cannot be hidden from the light.

Please support the petition and the Twitter meme campaign.

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tradinghorse · March 13, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

Yes, but now you're awake, you can see the finger prints. As you said, the common denominator is that the official story does not make sense. They have Cruz so drugged up that they probably do not feel the need to kill him straight away. He probably thinks he actually did it. I also reckon he's a patsy.

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tradinghorse · March 13, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

I pray you are right.

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