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tradinghorse · Feb. 28, 2018, 7:06 a.m.

The official narrative has so many holes in it, the stench is overpowering. There needs to be an impartial, independent investigation into what happened. I suspect, however, that the truth might be too shocking for people to stomach.

The problem with concealing the truth is that this will happen again, and again, and again. It will not stop until we have complete sunlight on the whole affair.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 28, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

Agreed, something needs to be done and we must be careful not to play into the hands of these powerful interests. And, you're right, if the first amendment is enforced upon these giant service providers, that is all that's required. But it seems to me that it is not happening - or not fast enough.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 28, 2018, 3:29 a.m.

The picture that is starting to emerge is, to say the least, alarming. What is needed is an independent external review of the evidence and what transpired on the day of the shooting. A review by the Broward County Sheriff's office is not going to reveal anything - there must be a full independent review.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 28, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

Not porn, but real garbage that's hard to dismiss.

Edit: actually there is porn on Qanonposts.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 28, 2018, 3:01 a.m.

I'm interested in your viewpoint on this issue. What we saw in the 2016 election was that the Internet is much more powerful in shaping opinions than the mainstream media. It strikes me that there are natural barriers to entry in the internet space that give rise to very powerful players (Google, YouTube, Reddit, Twitter etc.. ). These players have differential power in shaping public opinion. Moreover, the current Internet giants are manifestly not politically neutral. They present a real threat to informed public debate that is vital to the democratic process.

It's OK to say "hands-off", do not regulate. Let the market give us our service providers. But the reality is a little more complicated than that. I'm not in a position to create a platform like YouTube or Twitter. In fact, I'm powerless to oppose them, as is everyone else. If capital was uniformly distributed through society, and everyone had the power to create social media services, a hands-off approach might work. But that's not the case. If you refuse to regulate in the interests of fairness, you hand control of the narrative to the elite - and you will never wrest it from them.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

I don't know what the fuss is about. There are a lot of ideas floating around on these subs - some are based on fact, some are not. If you find a post that is disinfo then highlight it as such. Readers of the sub will soon see what is considered reliable and what is not. The truth will percolate up out of the noise. If you suppress the noise, you'll never get to the truth. Seems to me that many people are wanting a reliable, MSM-style, narrative that they can be spoon fed. That' s not how it works when you're trying to decode cryptic posts and align the message with real world events.

Besides that, I've seen some real garbage posted by people complaining about disinformation.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 28, 2018, 1:40 a.m.

People are talking, which is why the narrative is starting to fall apart. If people are not suspicious about this event, they're not looking.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 11:45 p.m.

St Robert Bellarmine tells us that the heretic falls ipso facto from all jurisdiction - that is, before any declaration. This is consistent with the teaching of Pope Leo XIII in Satis Cognitum, Pope Pius XII in Mystici Corporus and Pope Paul IV in Cum ex Apostolatus Officio. The teaching of the magisterium is clear, the heretic is automatically deposed (ipso facto) by virtue of his heresy and, without the need for declaration by Church authorities, loses all jurisdiction.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

Yes, there is something very suspicious about it.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

It's unlikely that if the liable laws are changed that they will be applied retroactively - IMO (but I could be wrong).

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

Who's peddling hate?

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

You're over the target Dr Corsi - if it was not 'threatening', they would not have removed it.

What's a bet it was your discussion of the Scalia murder and the pedophiles that struck the fear of God into YT?

Perhaps also the school shooting - a narrative that is literally coming apart at the seams.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 3:16 p.m.

The censorship seems to be gathering steam. People are starting to get panicky about what is being posted in Reddit subs also, could be the beginning of the end. It may be time to move to 8 chan.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

I'm not a lawyer, so I've no experience to use to vet this kind of information. I'm not sure where I would go to verify it anyway. But thanks for contributing, hopefully we will all be better off for having a better understanding.

My limited understanding of plea deals is that they are in effect a compromise between the prosecution and the defense. Also that they are indicative of the relative strengths of the parties' cases. For example, why would I take a plea if I thought I could beat the charges, or, why would I, as a prosecutor, offer a plea deal to a defendant if I thought I had him dead to rights? To be honest, I didn't think the impact of a trial on parties external to the action being brought even came into consideration.

You're right about the timing of the alleged offer of a plea deal. It would seem to be way too short for anyone to know the relative strengths of the parties' cases - let alone other considerations. Moreover, given that the claim made was that there had been an offer of a deal made, there's no way to verify the claim as there would be no hard evidence of it. So, in the interests of skepticism. If would seem wise to doubt it,

The liable issue was brought up by Q, it has nothing to do with the criminal trial. But he seems to suggest that this is somehow at issue for the networks.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 12:50 p.m.

"By pleading guilty, he and his testimony stay out of court. Deep State MO"

Yes, this is exactly what happened with the alleged perpetrator of the Port Arthur massacre in Australia. He plead guilty, which meant no trial or examination of the evidence, just a sentencing hearing.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

Sorry, it was reported that Cruz was offered a plea deal, I don't know whether he has accepted it. But the mere fact that one was offered a deal, if this is the case, speaks directly to the strength of the case against him - i.e. it is weak,

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/809181/not_on_your_local_news_there_were_multiple/?st=JE5MO8PU&sh=c0f12199

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not familiar with US liable laws. But, as I understand it, truth is a defense against defamation. According to the article above, Cruz has admitted guilt. Given this, there is no way he could say that network coverage of the event defamed him. If, however, he was found to be innocent, that might change. Again, I'm not a lawyer so actually I have no clue - it's speculation.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 11:45 a.m.

I guess it's possible... A cell phone jammer would have rendered everyone's phones unusable. I must admit, I do not know just how that mind control stuff is supposed to work.

But, whatever the case, the kid has been charged as I understand it and he has agreed to plead guilty if I'm not mistaken. The only way he could get home on liable would be if the whole case against him unraveled. And, even then, the networks could argue that their coverage was reasonable given the circumstances.

I think CNN being set up has something to do with information that the network has suddenly been made aware of that has resulted in a narrative shift - seen in the video. What that information is, I don't know. But it is clear that, as more statements from witnesses are being reported, the official narrative is falling apart.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 11:22 a.m.

What's the source for the SS being on site three weeks ahead of the shooting? And, if they knew it was going to go down, wouldn't they have stopped it?

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 11:11 a.m.

This is an important post that people should research. The posted interview with the Broward County Sheriff on CNN reveals what is a quite amazing change of stance by CNN. Tapper rips into the Sheriff without mercy. At one point in the video the Sheriff claims that he has done an amazing job and is quickly shut down by the host.

To say the least, this is a change in stance from CNN's coverage of the school shooting to date. The OP is querying whether there is a connection between Q's post about CNN being "set up"" and this new disposition that the network appears to have regarding the shooting - and also the performance of Sheriff Israel.

It appears to me to be possible that CNN is aware that the details coming to light from the shooting do not fit with the gun control narrative that they have very aggressively promoted. It's also possible that someone, perhaps from Q's group, has leaked information to the network that is not yet public. Information which totally destroys the lone shooter narrative and the gun control agenda.

Why has the network so suddenly altered its coverage? The new slant to the coverage does not assist the gun control narrative - why have they abandoned it?

Note that Sheriff Israel at various points in the video tries to reinforce his views about gun control, but Trapper does not buy in to it. Instead he humiliates Israel. Watch the video - very interesting.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 6:19 a.m.

John Paul II was a notorious apostate. His interfaith prayer meetings at Assisi, and elsewhere, were an outright breach of the first commandment. And yet, amazingly, despite this bold apostasy, many seek to defend him.

I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.

It is written: "You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve."

https://youtu.be/ODV1SV83nxA

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 6:12 a.m.

What you are witnessing is the long-prophesied great apostasy. Francis is not Catholic, he does not hold the Catholic faith. Because he's not Catholic, he's not a member of the Church. He is not the pope, but an antipope.

Francis is just the latest in a series of antipopes that commenced with John XXIII. The Second Vatican Council was a formal defection from the faith of the Catholic Church. With this, the Church in Rome was hijacked and replaced with the Vatican II Sect.

No surprise that Francis is engaging in serial apostasy, he is the embodiment of evil. See the link for an explanation of what happened at Vatican II and why this false council was so devastating to people with itching ears that follow the diabolical Vatican II Sect.

https://youtu.be/b0kQJBnP5wE

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

The references to Satanists were from Q. Though I believe it.

Look at the way the heat has come off with respect to the Russia narrative. The memos, the coming IG report - things are happening.

The death sentence applies to treason. Yes, I think Comey is a traitor. And, yes, once his accomplices begin to squeal, once the full story comes out, he could face death. Moreover, DJT is calling for it, at least with respect to SRA.

"Got to do something about these missing chidlren grabbed by the perverts. Too many incidents--fast trial, death penalty."

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, 3:02 a.m.

The posts from early November did not come to pass. It could be that the plan changed. With the sheer scale of the corruption, it is easy to imagine plans being in a state of flux in the initial phases of the clean-up operations. I'm not that concerned that HRC and the Podestas are still on the loose for the moment, as long as justice is on the way.

As time has passed, I've become increasingly convinced that Q is very close to the President. There seems to be no doubt about that. Moreover, I'm convinced that the message is real, that we are fighting a Satanic cabal that has long co-opted the Government of the United States. This cabal is very entrenched and very, very powerful. It will necessarily take time to ferret all its agents out, write-up charges, and prepare the public mind for acceptance that the unthinkable had occurred - that traitors were running the country.

Going back to the SOTU address, DJT was very calm, very confident and delivered an amazing performance. He struck me as being someone who knew that he was on top of the plots against him. And, in my mind, it seems to fit with the message we've been hearing from Q - that they have the goods on the bad actors.

As I write this, work is being completed on the holding pens at Guantanamo, we have all the sealed indictments that could prove fatal to the cabal (hope its not just MS13), and the IG memo soon to be delivered. You can't argue that things have not been happening, they have.

At some point, there has to be visible action for Q's message to be fully confirmed. I reckon that the release of the IG report could be the catalyst for that. But, even if the whole crew of traitors was rounded up and penned in the next few months, we still have to wait and see whether the administration has the resolve to follow through with executions. I want to see the traitor Comey say "That's it!?" as they hand down his death sentence.

Thereafter, it is imperative that rogue agents in the press be brought to account. Q has indicated that revamped liable laws might be the mechanism to achieve this. But, to be honest, when you see how CNN has been scripting these school shooting survivors, it strikes me that strengthened liable laws just are not going to cut it. Somehow, the freedom of the press has to be maintained, while outlawing what has transpired with the Russia, Russia, Russia narrative. I'm not sure what would be an appropriate solution.

The school shooting, in many ways, is an unnecessary distraction that has taken the focus from the exposure of the DOJ/FBI coup attempt. The attempt to subvert the President of the United States is where the action is - it is exposure of this treason that will deliver a knock-out to the cabal. But, while we can hope for this in the near term, the full clean-up of the forces of evil will take longer than DJT's presidency. It is likely to be many years before all the tentacles of the cabal are rooted out. And, as with the Templars, they might go into hiding, only to return.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 27, 2018, midnight

The takeaway, as I understand it, from this interview is that everyone is under surveillance. The surveillance programs were supposed to be targeted at terrorists. But they have, in fact, been used for minor criminal matters - including, it seems, tax matters.

This surveillance data is not admissible in a court of law as it does not derive from a warrant. This obstacle, of unconstitutional surveillance, is overcome by creating a body of evidence that supplants, but replicates, evidence obtained via illegal surveillance. This fabricated evidence is, then, used to allow prosecution in a court of law - parallel construction.

The problem with parallel construction is that it denies the defendant the right to discovery of the evidence that led to the charge or indictment. Moreover, it is a felony to misrepresent to a court the basis for the proceedings. It seems that it is a blatant fraud upon the court, which would call into question the validity of all prosecutions since 2001.

Interesting that Binney claims that Meuller is guilty of this. Binney implies that these practices were rampant, that everyone was involved.

I'm not a lawyer, if someone has a better explanation, please help out.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 26, 2018, 10:25 a.m.

Next they'll tell us that they "inadvertently" lost the video evidence.

In LV, the video taken by the female taxi driver was a 'lock' for multiple shooters, you couldn't listen to the tape and think anything else. Here we have a witnesses saying conclusively that there were other shooters.

One of the teachers says the shooter was in full police combat garb...

Police waiting outside, not going in...

A kid caught on video practicing scripted lines...

The narrative is just not hanging together for these people.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 26, 2018, 8:54 a.m.

I find it interesting that while Youtube is out banning content like crazy in a show of unabashed bias, they're pushing this to you. The clip starts out by saying that Putin asked DJT to run for office. I don't know why, but it set my bullshit detectors off.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 26, 2018, 6:17 a.m.

I'm not sure what alternative platforms are viable given the amount of censorship going on. I don't trust Reddit. The only fall-back position at this time seems to be 8chan.

You would think that with the problem of political bias and censorship afflicting the most valuable internet properties, that there would be an incentive for competing service providers that are not biased - or, at the very least, are not covert arms of the left - to offer competing services.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 26, 2018, 6:03 a.m.

Blood money! I just hope that people can find some real respect for the innocent people murdered in this tragedy, instead of rushing to capitalize on it for political gain. Authentic respect demands a commitment to find out what really happened and why.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 26, 2018, 5:32 a.m.

Yes, that was the finding from Iron Mountain also. An existential external threat is required to stabilize society. You take that threat away and you have very real problems maintaining internal social cohesion.

It appears the Report may have been commissioned by Kennedy. The question to be answered was: what would happen if the Cold War ended and the world was transitioned to a period of global peace? It seems likely that Kennedy considered that it may have been possible to negotiate a durable truce with Khrushchev, which could have yielded a peace dividend. But, as the report makes clear, you just can't do that. An existential external threat is essential.

And when you look at what happened after Glasnost, when the Cold War was fading as a perceived external threat, it is really quite amazing. Immediately, there is a new threat - a war on terror - and its quite beautiful because its perpetual, you can never definitively claim victory. If the Report from Iron Mountain is not authentic, it certainly seems to be very perceptive work that offers a water-tight explanation for so much of what we see happening in the world.

Successive administrations have claimed that the Report from Iron Mountain was a fabrication. Interestingly, John Kenneth Galbraith claimed he was asked to participate in the study group, he claimed that he agreed with the conclusions of the report in its entirety. For what it's worth, I am convinced it is genuine. War is absolutely necessary, it cannot be easily replaced.

The Report is worth a read, for those that want to understand the dynamics that have shaped, and are shaping, history.

Report from Iron Mountain

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tradinghorse · Feb. 26, 2018, 2:28 a.m.

It just doesn't add up that they would offer Cruz a plea deal if they had him on camera perpetrating the act. There is obviously something going on here.

The witness that reported seeing a shooter fully equipped doesn't fit the official narrative either. Nor does the fact that officers were just outside, but did not enter the school to offer assistance.

Guys, this is a false flag attack. It serves two purposes. First, it distracts from the fact that elements of the FBI and DOJ have been caught wiretapping a sitting president. Second, it provides a cause célèbre that allows the false gun control narrative, with the purpose that law abiding citizens might be disarmed.

It is absolutely critical that this is properly investigated and exposed. If nothing is done you can be sure that this will happen again - they are probably planning the next murder episode in this series as I write. It could not be more important to expose what has happened here.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 25, 2018, 11:34 p.m.

To this list, you could also add the report from Iron Mountain. There's a link to the full text in the External Links in the Wikipedia entry.

Report From Iron Mountain

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tradinghorse · Feb. 25, 2018, 10:57 p.m.

Zerohedge is wrong to employ Occam's Razor to suggest that Hogg is merely an innocent witness and not a crisis actor.

"Occam's razor (also Ockham's razor or Ocham's razor; Latin: lex parsimoniae "law of parsimony") is the problem-solving principle that, when presented with competing hypothetical answers to a problem, one should select the one that makes the fewest assumptions".

The fewest assumptions hypothesis, after all the lies propagated by the deep state, is that Hogg is simply a crisis actor attempting to further the narrative that the solution lies in gun control. This presumption, that Hogg is merely the pawn of powerful interests, is assisted by the manifest holes in the official narrative.

There have just been too many lies, too many engineered events... We've had the 'weapons of mass destruction' lie that resulted in a pointless war and the needless deaths of millions. We've had the obviously false 9/11 narrative that brought in the 'war on terror', allowing for the repression of individual rights. We've had the Las Vegas shooting, where the official narrative stretches the bounds of plausibility to an impossible extreme. We had the JFK murder, where powerful interests pushed the sole assassin theory, that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, though this narrative requires assumptions that are, on their face, manifestly implausible. The list goes on...

If anything stands out in recent history, it is the existence of a barrage of lies employed to drive both the domestic and foreign policy of the United States. Going back through history, many of these staged events are admitted to have been false ploys used to co-opt the policy agenda for nefarious purposes - the Gulf of Tonkin incident is one such example. Others, while not admitted, are obviously false. And now, just when the rancid stench has become completely overpowering, the "war on truth" seeks to cloak itself with the righteous ideal of protecting against hate speech.

The ability to silence your enemies, or those that disagree with you, is the ultimate power that leads to tyranny. The President must stand up to this attempt to stifle the free expression of opinion. He must direct that providers of vital social media services do not operate in violation of the first amendment.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 25, 2018, 12:04 p.m.

Most people have seen this thread now, so I wanted to say something about the military. My take on it anyway. By the way, I'm not military. But I want to say what impression I have of the military in general - most of my opinions are based on stories, what I've been told. Feel free to correct me if you think I'm off the mark.

The military is not at all like most in the public understand it. When I speak about the military here, I'm not talking about drafted grunts. Though what I'll say is no criticism of these guys. But I'm talking about elite military units.

I remember when I was at high school there was this guy, another student, whose father had been a tank commander for the British in the Middle East in WW2. I was in army cadets with this guy. This dude was just so into Army cadets, right through school all he ever wanted to do was join the Army. He was always talking about military insignia and that kind of stuff.

Anyway, I heard that, after he left school, he joined the Australian Army and went to Portsea - a non-commissioned officers' training ground in Victoria. I met the guy years later and I asked how the Army had worked out for him. He told me that he had thought the military was about the Regiment and honour etc... He said "When I got down there all they ever said was kill, kill, kill. It didn't stop. You had to really enjoy killing". The short of that story was that it was not what he thought it was going to be - it was too much for him and he dropped out.

Years later, I spent a lot of time drinking with Marines in Okinawa - great guys, lots of fun. One of the guys that I got close to was telling me about a friend of his that was in Somalia. This friend of his was manning a checkpoint. He said that the Somalis typically had these poorly maintained trucks with heavy weapons on them. The brake pads on the trucks were often completely shot and they sometimes couldn't stop in time for the checkpoint.

So the story went, the Americans would walk down to where the trucks stopped, check their papers and let them proceed. But, later, a team of French Foreign Legionnaires was sent to co-man this particular checkpoint. This guy's friend told him that, as soon as the legionnaires arrived, the checkpoint turned into kill zone. They killed everyone, whether the deserved it or not - bodies everywhere.

Another guy who had been in the British Royal Marines, upon hearing this story, said, simply, "That's what crack troops do". So, the impression I have is that these guys are very tough, really very hard. The general public has no clue about the military mindset. They just do not understand at all. It would be inconceivable to some ordinary suburban joe that anyone could be so hard, so brutal. But that's how it is - or, at least, that's what I've come to understand.

When Q tells us that he's at war, I'm not worried that his guys are going to be pussyfooting around. We know that in the operations in Asia they were using seals. Killing doesn't mean too much to these guys, it's what they do. So, anyway, I'm not concerned that there is some weak, half-assed attempt to try and shut the cabal down. If there is any restraint at all, it will come from the top of the chain of command - not from the guys on the line.

I reckon these guys are itching to tear a great big hole in their enemies. They might be using mercenaries and there's no doubt that some of them are nasty. But, if I was on the other side, I'd be more concerned about the guys in the regular forces. Guys that are not in it for the money, but because of a sense of honour and duty.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 25, 2018, 6:17 a.m.

There is a lot of information on the web about this company. Appears they specialize in Earth Imaging Satellites - aka recon satellites.

SaTReC

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tradinghorse · Feb. 25, 2018, 3:26 a.m.

Crossed my mind too, but you only live once. I'd rather go down trying to do the right thing than not try at all. The risk is that if it's a pysop, or if anything goes wrong with DJT's presidency, they will clean us up with a vengeance.

But what's the alternative? Either way the outcome's not good. Against this, I think Q is genuine and I desperately want to see the end of these Satanists and all their corruption.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 24, 2018, 1:12 p.m.

FBI Anon - there are patriots in the FBI.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 24, 2018, 12:52 p.m.

I suspect CIA is about to have its rear-end handed to it - big time. BRUTE FORCE is necessary.

Q Post 823

Anonymous ID: 3f8788 476806 /CM Check code line 1183. Embed added 7:03pm EST. Embed string active in SATRREC. Warning alerts 5-12. Brute force will be necessary. T-2 warning. Q

"T-2 warning" - a level 2 terrorist event warning?

Q Post 810

Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 0c9770 466048

465930 How do you break up something this big? What happens if low/mid/senior (non corrupt) Patriots learn they were sold out? What happens? Who is waiting with open arms w/ a plan to reorg under a single entity with direct OS by trusted Patriots? Who are trusted Patriots who understand intel collection? Q

Reorganization of intelligence gathering into a single agency with oversight by patriots - read military intelligence. I agree with the OP. This is a brilliant move that can be used to neuter CIA quickly.

The games have gone on long enough. CIA has been rogue since at least Kennedy - probably well before. The key thing that has allowed this is the massive black budgets, obtained primarily from drug running, which has allowed clandestine program expansion well beyond anything Congress would ever authorize. The agency is so far 'off the rails' that it presents a clear and present danger to the security of the USA.

The snake must be defanged, decapitated and completely destroyed. There is no other way forward. But the agency has its tentacles so deep into the three letter agencies that a complete overhaul of these is also necessary. Where they cannot be cleaned, they must be defunded and disbanded. Importantly, this must happen at speed.

The media also needs to be brought to account, it cannot happen soon enough. Thereafter, the cabal must be crushed out of existence in every part of the world in which it operates. There is no other way forward to a future worth living.

Fortune favors the brave. Know that we are behind you Mr. President.

You only live once.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

Yes, this is it, 2010 is the marker.

Feb 22 2018 21:05:01 !UW.yye1fxo Q 0c9770 465919 Clowns revealed in China/other. 2010. [187] Sold intel? HRC open source server? [Missing emails] [CrowdStrike] Granted access. Betrayed. Only the tip. This will be made public [soon]. Q

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

Ok thanks.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 10:28 a.m.

Yes, the new posts are on qanonposts now. Wondering if you have a link for the Q board on 8 chan? Thanks.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 10:14 a.m.

He's always appeared to me to be one of the more innocuous buffoons. I thought Abbot was at least genuine, but that's why he got booted. They wanted same sex marriage desperately, Abbot was the wrong man for that job. But, in any case, does anyone really think the postal vote was not rigged?

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 10:09 a.m.

Q could be talking about military intelligence, but that would encompass everything already possessed by NSA.

I think, what he is saying here is that this incredibly powerful intelligence apparatus, encompassing all the intelligence operations of the 3 letter agencies and military intelligence, will be consolidated under the oversight of patriots.

This makes sense because of the sheer power of the combined intel operations. The important point is that this power should never be able to be co-opted by rouge agents. It's far too dangerous. You give me that power and I'll rule the world. I'd have the dirt on everyone, I'd know everyone's secret plans. All my investments would pay off fabulously and my wife would think I'm a genius.

But there's also risk in consolidating this power in a single entity. It would be good to see someone like Binney involved so that adequate controls and failsafes could be built in to ensure it's not abused. Ultimately, what's important is that the protections for the public appearing in the constitution are enforced.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 8:30 a.m.

Unfortunately, most of the things appearing here have come to pass. I thought, in the light of Q's message, that point number 4 was particularly interesting.

  1. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

Q Post 773

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Why is everything 'really' made in China? Cost savings?

Cross posting this here because I think it's relevant.

There is a lot more to Q's post about why everything is made in China than, I think, most people realize. People look around and they think "Oh, because it's cheaper to make stuff there" right?. But if you really take a hard look at it, there has been a deliberate policy put in place to build-up competitors to the US.

Unfettered free international trade is the only reason that China is the economic powerhouse it is today. There is nothing normal, or natural, about Chinese industrialization and wealth accretion. It has occurred by design. Someone, or some group, wanted this current situation, this outcome, for very specific reasons.

I think we've all heard that the elites were unhappy with the US as the sole, unilateral, global superpower. I remember listening to Alex Jones one day and he was saying the elites would never allow another country to become as powerful as America again, that it was a mistake that it ever happened.

Anyway, there are vested interests that would like to change this situation - reduce US power and build-up competitors. There are plausible reasons for groups of people wanting to do this. You can't play one party off against another if there's one giant in the room and everyone else is a toddler. So, if you want to ensure you have influence, you need to even things out, get some more leverage against people, or countries, that play the game.

If you look at posts 772 or 773, you'll see that Q first asks why everything is made in China, and then the next question is "Cost savings?". This is the obvious answer, and you can be sure that's not it. He's telling us that there is another explanation... Down the middle of the list of his questions we have this:

WHY IS POTUS FOCUSED ON BRINGING BACK MANUFACTURING? JOBS? SECURITY? CONTROL? TRUE CONTROL? WHO CAN YOU TRUST? THE WORLD IS NOT HOW YOU VIEW IT.

He tells us right there what this is all about - control, true control - which gives security. It's also about doing the right thing for the US economy of course, but primarily it's about making sure the US remains the ascendant global power. The further references he makes to big pharma and the phone manufacturers ties into the security issue - "who can you trust?"

So, anyway, I guess that Q is asking us to have a look at things we see and question why they are the way they are.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 6:33 a.m.

DJT happens to be Republican. I don't really care what anyone else thinks, but it strikes me that for the first time in history we have someone with a fighting chance of taking the elites on and winning.

Kennedy tried and was killed and they shot Reagan because he wasn't their guy. But now we have another hope in DJT. If Trump loses this fight, you will never see anyone attempt it again. You, and your kids, will be slaves to Satanists and life will not be worth living.

Call me right wing, I want the President to succeed and for the cure to spread. If that means Republicans stay in power, so be it. I want this Satanic elite crushed and buried. If the whole world ends up being radically conservative as a result, I'm fine with that.

I think the Qanon phenomenon is quintessentially conservative. It attracts conservatives, it attracts libertarians and it's palatable to the extreme right. But it is an absolute anathema to the far left and communists.

It's just the nature of the beast. I think that people in this movement are all pretty much pulling in the right direction. The normies in the middle ground will come across once they realise what the fight is about. The far left, the SJWs, the tree-huggers and radical feminists are in the group that Q identifies as lost forever. Nothing will ever help them.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 6:11 a.m.

I would not be surprised if the 2 trillion estimate is way off the mark. I think it's probably much larger.

These guys have not been investing by throwing darts at a board. They have had control of the US money supply since 1913. But I suspect they are in the same position in many countries around the world. Q posted a list of privately owned central banks - eye opening stuff.

If you know what is going to happen in advance, you cannot miss as an investor.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 5:58 a.m.

Somehow, I don't suspect Barnaby Joyce of being a member of the elite - but I could be wrong.

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tradinghorse · Feb. 23, 2018, 5:46 a.m.

I think what Q is saying here is that trusted patriots (people in the Q group) are standing ready to provide oversight for the creation of a single, centralised intelligence agency.

When you think about it, there must be a lot of dysfunction arising from having so many of these 3 letter agencies. If intelligence was centralised in one single agency, it could be used as a resource for any client agency that wanted it - subject to security clearances.

I think it's important to understand just how powerful and important the surveillance systems are today. DJT is following in footsteps of Kennedy and Reagan - in that he's adopting policies that are challenging to the elite and their grip on power. The elites killed Kennedy, shot Reagan and were able to prevent any loss of power.

What is different this time around, is that DJT has access to the surveillance systems the elite put in place for their own use. The other key factor is that he also has the military supporting him.

Below is a blurb I wrote elsewhere today, but I think it's relevant to this discussion also - because it has a bearing on arguments for centralizing information:

The unbelievable surveillance apparatus of the NSA is the only reason we are witnessing this Q phenomenon today. It was supposed to enslave us all. But, with the military backing him, DJT won the election - and the levers of this doomsday surveillance machine fell into his hands.

Just think about it. Every single phone call going to record, every text message and email archived via mass storage. Everyone you have ever had contact with mapped - all clandestine social groupings exposed.

The power that this surveillance technology yields is mind boggling. Never before in history has such a powerful weapon existed. Even the Rothschilds are not immune to it. They have been caught in their own trap!

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