LIVE Baking Seminar

5/07/2020

We in here

Welcome To LIVE Baking Classes in the Q Research Utility Kitchen

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

We are the bakers who provide the breads for those anons who post Qresearch's open-sourced information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of baking ideas and baking ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here.

VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS

SEMPER FIDELIS

WWG1WGA

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General Announcements

* Baking Class in /comms/ every Thursday @7pm ET: practice baking, Q&A, all are welcome

Past Class links & archives

>>6125 #1 (2/13/20), >>6368 #2 (2/20/20), >>6885 #3 (2/27/20), >>7185 #4 (3/05/20), #5 >>7568 (3/12/20), >>8274 #6 (3/19/20), >>8872 #7 (3/26/20), >>9320 #8 (4/02/20), >>9787 #9 (4/09/20), >>10510 #10 (4/16/20)

Archives: Classes #1 - #8: >>10784

Step by Step Baking Instructions

Simpler version on the left; more detailed version on the right.

>>7594 PREPARATION >>11170

>>7606 STEP 1 - Find the Current Dough >>11178

>>7615 STEP 2 - Copy the Current Dough >>11183

>>7624 STEP 3 - Paste The Dough Into Text Editor >>11191

>>7640 STEP 3a - Trim The Notables Section >>11194, >>11204

>>7646 STEP 3b - Make space for your new notables. >>11210

>>7660 STEP 4 - Create A New Thread >>11216

>>7670 STEP 5 - Enter Thread Info And Post Thread >>11242

>>7681 STEP 6 - Post the Rest of the Dough >>11248

>>7698 STEP 7 - Make A New Pastebin & Make The Dough Post >>11256

>>7706 STEP 8 - Post Your New Thread Link >>11259

Overview & Extras

>>11161 - Modules 1 & II

>>9994, >>11303 - Timing the Bake

>>10005, >>11283 - Linking between Boards

>>10293 - Archiving & teaching files (screenshot; almost current)

E-BAKE Instructions

>>9252, >>10776

Q & A

——— Class #1 (2/13/20)

>>6237 How often do you post a notables list? >>6244, >>6248, >>6266, >>6251, >>6278

>>6253, >>6471 What is "body too long"? How to fix? >>6253, >>6275

>>6252 When do you post next bread link to hit 751 (sniping)? >>6263

>>6283 Last notable post: any special formatting? >>6296, >>6297

>>6302 Better to make the updated pastebin before baking or after (and then post the dough)? >>6304

——— Class #2 (2/20/20)

>>6406 How to deal with "server too long" message? >>6423

>>6672 How to put my text editor notables in pastebin? >>6673

>>6432 How to tell what is notable and what is not? >>6432, >>6434, >>6436, >>6450, >>6466

>>6513 Do real anons actually love the bewbs (or are they just a distraction)? >>6521, >>6523, >>6526, >>6532

>>6533 How do you make a new pastebin? >>6543, >>6537

>>6549 How much practice do I need? >>6550, >>6559

>>6570 How do you format a Q post? >>6573, >>6588, >>6597, >>6598

>>6630 How great is the need for bakers? >>6635

>>6693 What are the //// BREAK \\ in the pastebin [page breaks]? >>6694

>>6732 Do notables go directly in the dough/pastebin file or in a separate Notable file? >>6691, >>6732

>>6833 How to bake: Index vs Catalog? >>6834, >>6839

>>6779 What shifts need bakers? >>6781, >>6802, >>6806, >>6811, >>6822 [rt 6802], >>6824,

>>6845 Feedback on a new bake rt >>6842

——— Class #3 (2/27/20)

>>6908 How do you 'grab the dough'? 10 steps: >>6910, >>6924, >>6928, >>6949, >>6955, >>7042, >>7045, >>7049, >>7055, >>7070

>>6934, >>6938 What is "baker's tools" app & where to find it? >>6943, >>6950, >>6951

>>7073 Anon request for feedback on bake: >>7081, >>7086

>>6966 How does a baker keep up with notables (day, night, Q)? >>6982

>>6983 I got "body too long" - what to do? >>6998, >>7007, >>7015, >>7024, >>7040

>>6984 Anon: plz check my work? >>6994

>>7028 Do I need a pastebin login account? [no!]

>>6995 Max no. of breads in "Previously Collected Notables"? >>7033

>>7033 Can you avoid two-page notables by placing oldest breads in "previously collected notables? [yes!]

>>7025 Body too long: what's the limit? [~4500 char or 100 lines]

>>7030 Why are links in practice bakes green? >>7030, >>7035

——— Class #4 (3/5/20)

>>7193 Baking possible on a cell phone? >>7010, >>7205

>>7210 How do you know who is baking? >>7215, >>7218, >>7222

>>7236 I know I would choke if things got too hectic >>7240

>>7315 How do i get notable bun linked under previously collected notables? >>7319

——— Class #5 (3/12/20)

>>7735 What about sniping? >>7739, >>7752

>>7779 How can you tell a real baker from a shil l baker? >>7781, >>7790, >>7803, >>7807, >>7821, >>7861

>>7833 How do i know which baker is baking? >>7838, >>7849, >>7851, >>7866, >>7884, >>7885, >>7906

>>7830 How do bakers delete posts? [they don't] >>7834, >>7837, >>7839, >>7842

>>7853 Should I get a pastebin account? >>7870, >>7875

>>8003 What is the "flood detected" message when baking? >>8011, >>8016

>>8024 Does baker include only anon noms in notables? >>8029

——— Class #6 (3/19/20)

>>8421 Notes: how do you keep up in a fast bred? >>8432, >>8440

>>8500 What is "shadowing the bread"? >>8546

>>8679 Am I too slow to bake? No! >>8679, >>8698, >>8696, >>8700

>>9258 How do you insert General Image in TOR bakes? >>9278

——— Class #7 (3/26/20)

>>9258 How do TOR bakers use the Iwo Jima video?

>>9135 Can we recap?

——— Class #8 (4/02/20)

>>9397 /comms/ with anons from bakers–ok or not? >>9382, >>9397, >>9407, >>9410. >>9411, >>9418

>>9530 How often does BO log in?

>>9918 Bred titles: What's ok & how to format? >>9932, >>9936

——— Class #9 (4/09/20)

>>10020 Why are my notables green? >>10026, >>10041

>>10032 Q about images: when png, TOR, mp4? >>10067

>>9999 When to postbaking? >>10010, >>10079, >>10092

>>10162 How many practice baker b4 a real bake? >>10168, >>10174

——— Class #10 (4/16/20)

>>10641 What do when Q posts? >>10645

>>10762 Would like to bake but have no regular schedule >>10763, >>10765

——— Class #11 (4/23/20)

>>11376 Why use both pastebin.com and notepad++? >>11312, >>11321, >>11325

>>11306 How to keep up in fast breads? >>11309, >>11314, >>11320

Baker Tips, Tricks & Traps

——— Class #1 (2/13/20)

>>6329, >>6400, >>6468 /comms/ BO Rusty checks in

——— Class #2 (2/20/20)

>>6431 What is "pastebin"?

>>6449 muffin tactic of omitting date–why dates matter,other advice on notabling >>6477

>>6480 Even the worst mistakes are fixable

>>6501, >>6477 How to deal with Q proofs & other anon analyses

>>6525 How to post off-bred links

>>6543 Take care to copypaste entire dough to pastebin - easy to miss top or bottom

>>6658, >>6656 Use Control-F (F3) to search within each bread

>>6665 Every new baker freaks out when when Q posts

>>6676 Never feel dumb

>>6734 When to make a new thread [to prep it, not bake it!]

>>6683, >>6687 Cloning the dough in case pastebin.com goes down

>>6695, >>6735, >>6752, >>6754, >>6769, >>6822 Bakers on nick-names, icons, pastebins

>>6848 Baking trick (what to do while waiting for thread to drop)

——— Class #3 (2/27/20)

>>7340, >>7072 Baking Steps 1 - 9 (slides only)

>>6998 One- vs two-page notables (more: >>7007, >>7015, >>7024, >>7040)

>>7019, >>7027, >>7030, >>7069 Bakers never panic, never tap

>>7051 Advantages of a non-guest pastebin account [no captcha]

>>7054 You don't have to pull marathons to bake

>>7106, >>7177 Baker pleased to see 2 late gy bakers vying for the bread

>>7116 Eight tips for creating notables posts (to help bakers)

>>7175 End-of-bread issues

——— Class #4 (3/5/20)

>>7189 Summary of Baking Steps (eight)

>>7209 "Create a Thread" versus "Post a Reply" >>7212, >>7220

>>7231 Only the first post in baking uses "Create a thread"

>>7216 Laptop is fine for baking

>>7224 The two parts of baking: actual baking & note-taking

>>7252 Funny meme: baker's perspective on baking

>>7287, >>7294 Dough posts with breaks marked /////BREAK\\\

>>7298, >>7303, >>7311 Two-page notables (discussion)

>>7321 How to create a new dough paste

——— Class #5 (3/12/20)

>>7573, >>7575, >>7582 In response to "I suck at baking": How to reduce baking stress

>>7731 Pastebin.com works with Mac OS

>>7642 Text editor for a Mac: Atom >>7643, >>7651, >>7729

>>7768 Bakers need detachment >>7770, >>7773

>>7780 Plz don't edit another baker's notables >>7780, >>7784, >>7798, >>7804, >>7809, >>7811, >>7815, >>7817

>>7896, >>7898 Bakers don't want to be ID'd by number

>>8039 Baker school is attracting shills–must be over the target

>>8139 Q Bakes: when to bake & late-minute Q posts

>>8237 Tell anons to plz state the main point when posting Q proofs, etc.

——— Class #6 (3/19/20)

>>8352 Note-taking wo/baking, baker's assist controversy >>8365, >>8385, >>8413, >>8419, >>8433

>>8544, >>8562 When to drop note-taker notables

>>8788 "8chan" baking vs "WWG1WGA" baking, cooperation w/anons

>>8373 Who's responsible for checking notables (bakers or anons)? >>8388

——— Class #7 (3/26/20)

>>8885 The perfect bake: composition, timing, snipe >>8887, >>8888 (You), >>8889

>>8911 Role of bakers on the board plus bakers/BOs >>8915 (You), >>8923 (You)

>>9127 Baking thread a continuing resource

>>9136 Taking notables/baking for a baker

>>9186 (You), >>9193 (You) New bakers coming online, anon encouragement

>>9181 New baker's dough & notes plus feedback >>9188 (You), >>9191 (You), >>9195

>>9191 How to handle notables when there is more than one baker per bread

——— Class #8 (4/02/20)

>>9411 Differing ideas about baker demeanor >>9375, >>9382, >>9404, >>9411, >>9418

>>9431 Current relationship with /qr/ BO @fj

>>9337 Bread title–put colon AFTER the bread number

>>9373 Qs after @600 - don't let shills distract

>>9375 Notable posting, timing 200-400-600

>>9386 Bakers message to anons

>>9380 Notables post after the bake

——— Class #9 (4/09/20)

>>9970, >>9981, >>10011, >>10017 Formatting bun numbers, notables page

>>10083, >>10106 Tell anons of needed baker changes in advance; timing issues

>>10081 Note-taker steps to bake for first time

>>10087, >>9993 Formatting issues

>>10075 Importance of tagging the dough post

>>10078, >>10101 Ideas for streamlining notables; what to include/exclude?

>>10106, >>10119, >>10116, >>10167 "Last call crew" (anons/shills who call out problems at end of bake)

>>10101, >>10111 Telling anons from muffins

>>10132, >>10148, >>10163 Ignore muffins when baking

>>10133 Creating a pastebin early

>>10226 Can't make it to class? Suggestions

——— Class #10 (4/16/20)

>>10547, >>6892 Baker handoffs

>>10555, >>10815 Max post length: 4700-5000 characters, ~200 lines (results vary).

>>10581 Good comms with anons

>>10696 How to report a thread or post

>>10763 Team baking (baker plus note collector) >>10765, >>10764

——— Class #11 (4/23/20)

>>11354 Example of baker get trying to get nommer to be more specific

INTRO TO BAKING

Qresearch is a 24/7 beehive of activity where anons post their diggs, memes and prayers.

For this to happen requires ''bakers''--which is why they have been called "the core of this board."

Bakers perform several key functions:

* Posting notables for each bread.

* Baking breads (transition the board from one bread to the next).

* Kneading the dough (the board structure), keeping it clean, tidy, and up-to-date.

* Setting the tone for each bread via their choice of bread title and /comms/ with posters.

When all goes well, baking is a fun & exciting opportunity to serve. When things get wonky and shills attack--bakers carry on anyway.

Shadilay, fellow bakers!

OTHER BAKING RESOURCES

Baker's grab bag

* Baker's Tools App (Version 0.7.2) >>6646, >>6650, >>6652, >>6654, >>6656, >>9584, >>9589, >>9597, >>9601

* Try Atom as a text editor for Macs >>6925, >>6934, >>7055, >>7070

* Meme-making app kek.gg >>8771

* Crazy Bakes: wonky board, lags, baking from Index, "flood detected", dup breads >>9960

* How's your mouse for baking? >>10617

* Font used for baking school slides: >>10642, https://www.dafontfree.net/find.php?q=impact

* Quik Pic bake instructions >>7549

* Original baking video >>7076 (shows how to make room for new notables)

* Overcoming paywalls >>10844

* Pastebin.com problems & alternatives >>11645, >>11609, >>11619, >>11620, >>11627, >>11640, >>11641, >>11644

Dealing with notables

* Ten Baker Tips for Notables >>8177

* Asking anons to state the main point >>8237

* Anon tips for better notables (bakers can tell anons) >>>/qrb/41937, https://pastebin.com/yq7wQyvn

* Bakers on what they look for in notables >>8351, >>8315, >>8698

* Muh Collector "how to" on notables >>9006, >>9009

* Advanced Google searching protocols https://pastebin.com/raw/JuK0xUDb

* How to read a scientific study >>9036833

Free image/video screenshots & production tools

* Image screenshots PrtSc/snipping tool + MS-Paint https://youtu.be/KvXxCE1gxOE

* 8kun video limits >>8760

* Bandicam Screen Recorder >>8759, >>8762 (also: OBS, Kdenlive, Audacity)

* VLC Player >>8714, >>8715, >>8766

* Windows Movie Maker for Win 10 >>8712

* YTCutter (makes vid clips from YT) >>8767

* Twitter Video Downloader >>8768

* NVidia cards (can screen-capture vids) >>8785

* Forensically (forensics magnifier) https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#forensic-magnifier

* ShotCut NLE (open source cross platform video editor) https://shotcut.org/

* MFFmpeg (decodes & plays any format) https://ffmpeg.org/ >>>/qresearch/8507906

* Natron (cross-platform video compositor) >>>/qresearch/8507913

* Handbrake (good for transcoding) >>>/qresearch/8507921

* GIMP & GMIC (image editing) >>>/qresearch/8507956

* Invidio (copies YT vids, restricted or not, no ads or signup) >>8792

Baker tips IRL

>>8829 Baker's Tips - Read me first

>>6331 #01 - Ghosting a bred

>>6331 #02 - Baker changes

>>6378 #03 - TOR baking

>>6651 #04 - Defeating shills with facts & humor

>>7339 #05 - Announce you're baking (#11 too)

>>6892 #06 - Baking/note-taking protocols

>>7181 #07 - Use RED TEXT and BOLD in handoffs

>>7363 #08 - Try to notice when a cat is baking

>>13038 #09 - Respecting other bakers' notables

>>8174 #10 - Make sure to copypasta the whole page

>>8803 #11 - Announce you're taking responsibility

>>8822 #12 - Embed baker changes to provide more info

>>8824 #13 - Watch out for unknown bakers bearing gifts

>>8825 #14 - Use named pastebins to defeat shill complaints

>>8826 #15 - Responding to shills trying to suck up baker's time

>>8827 #16 - Be aware of muh joos bakers

>>8828 #17 - All bakers screw up

>>10445 #18 - Just do it--bake!

>>9590 #19 - Don't be afraid to bake

>>10789 #20 - Post notes early so changes can be made

>>10791 #21 - No /comms/ creates misunderstandings

>>10792 #22 - Defeat shil ls with humor

Baker teaching stories

>>10114 How shills attack bakers--an example ("baker saves notables for his twats")

>>10787 LIVE example of picking up a mid-bread bake

>>10710 Why do you bake? >>10729, >>10731, >>10732, >>10744

Ideas & proposals

>>10253 Dough revision history proposal

''this dough will change as we collect new resources & refine what's here''

Updated Dough for Class #13

https://pastebin.com/UzykkiTm

The No Moar Muffins Edition

Welcome to baking class!

anons, bakers, note-takers, shitposters (sort of)

Join Q+ and fam for some treats from the famed Kekistani Kitchen Kafe while we wait for class to commence.

>>13068

Hello friends

Baking class in a few,

Anybody here yet??

>>13076

>>13075

>>13072

>>13073

>>13074

Geez, just found out that if i don't get out of editing mode, i don't see any posts. Was feelin' a little Twilight Zonish here….

Sorry >>13073

image rel.

Got old bakers? new bakers? curious bystanders?

>>13079

Every week there are lotsa happenings

also, anons tend to be 'fashionably late'

like it's a party

>>13081

oh my gawd, it's the floating green ghost baker

here's your fren

>>13083

just a note, Teach

CM seems to be fooling with the way pages render

both the white space and horizontal lines

white space went back to the way it used to be (multiple spaces don't collapse into one space) but --— lines don't render the way they did used to, had to switch em out for real lines (the kind we used for q posts).

>>13088

triple !!! - you musta had a fancier pw, mine is simpler

>>13088

is your tripcode staying in the Name box across posts? I am in edit mode, and i have to retype.

>>13089

i've collected links for a lot of tools but haven't used many (if any) yet.

Watcha got??

Ok, now i'm outta edit more. let's see what happens….

>>13102

ah, this is what you talkin' about last thread….ok, i don't know what the SS is (the spreadsheet?)

>>13101

>dankest

make em or collect em?

gy memes are always dank

>>13102

not anything like now.

kek.

>>13108

good - you just answered another q for me. That anon sent me a really swell message yesterday.

>>13111

yep.

>>13112

few memeanons are masters

i've made a lot of memes

but have a pretty limited no of techniques i know

and don't draw

so it's ALL adaptive

but fun to see what you can do with what ya have

>>13117

>>13115

u are free to post here, like anyone

but if you get excessively nasty or spammy

u ain't gonna be here very long.

-out

>>13096

>>13122

One of the reasons Rusty proposed a log for dough changes is to make that process quicker/easier - assuming that the bred # for the change was recorded and maybe relevant post nos.

If you're trying to pin down changes in one bread (before you bake again), it's pretty hard. Why many corrections happen in gy or early am breads.

>>13103

Evening fren, just saw your post.

>>13075

Where ya wanna roll to?

>>13132

"never" was my answer too

good to see u

yer a bakin' fool these days

hope u got time for sleep and fun

>>13133

just as an fyi, sgrvl's moved on now

see https://endchan.net/qanonresearch/res/46596.html#q46866

however he is still recruiting meme warriors:

https://endchan.net/qanonresearch/res/46596.html#q46892

>>13142

the 9-5 shift, kek

but yer also doing later

hats off, baker.

>>13137

have resolved to try to avoid f word for…hmmm…well, at least 24 hours, went over my quota.

>>13151

wha????

dun like "muffin"?

howsabout "lollipop"?

muffins and lollipops nice, right?

>>13157

Muffins must pop right outta the pan with they see you comin.

>>13158

Yeah, and Hannity will be there to take credit for it all….worth watching for the kek

>>13163

what's interesting is that when someone's being sneaky their posts are deliberately kinda vague. Busy baker ends up scratching his head but has not time to puzzle things out.

>>13167

mighta been, but wnb walked into one of these traps (might be a few of them tho)

>>13169

wow

ok bakers, fess up

'which of you has a secret life as a rock star??

>>13170

i think that's the one that d'oh got attacked for, even tho it's obvious from the bred that it wasn't his bake

>>13144

can confirm? (if yer here)

>>13170

it i recall, that was a confusing bread

mebbe 3 pastebin's? (where the "ringer" was the last)

sometimes there's just so much going on

i can think of a lot of breads where i had to do too much stuff at once and didn't check something etc

everyone tries to be careful bc you can get nailed for just about anything around here

why i save screenshots, use a named pb, and communicate whenever's weird with the situation or bread

can help a lot when question arise.

>>13172

not at all boring, teach

guerilla bread-baking

>dough changes

dough changes fine. but i posted yesterday that seems like after no big dough changes for a while (except mebbe two-page notes), there's been a sudden push for change, and it's gotta be NOW. - like Pelosi in Dec.

The changes we make affect a worldwide movement. Big ship to turn, my 2cents.

>>13173

Good evening.

>>13173

well, it's about tools used for preserving the dough but something to help bakers deconstruct/digest the events of the last few days.

>>13175

nobody here should have to offer a defense for anything, shit comes pretty far around here, and we just deal with it as best we can.

thought it was really weird that you'd get blamed for that, but i guess anything can happen. Shill just puts something out there and counts on the fact that most anons don't have the time to really check it out. Same technique msm uses to malign Q.

>>13195

Well, that's not exactly a capital offense. Good to have it there anyways.

>>13196

>>13199

i'm goin over to other thread now.

>>13196

thx teach

great class.

>>13251

bakes seem to be getting hit hard every bred

can't turn around wo some new bakin' crisis.

'sup this morning?

>>13235

not a great archivist anon but can answer at least 1 question: all graphics from QR are archived as far as i know. there are many graphics file depositories in the dough. I am relatively newfag compared to some others here, perhaps someone who is more of a graphicsanon can answer.

Later:

Earlier posted two of your questions on /qr/;

>>13345 is one answer, the other is here:

>>>/qresearch/9089305 hope it helps.

>>13236

>posting a pic wo/doxxing myself

what kind of picture? if a screenshot, you just have to make all identifying info is not there (e.g., on twitter).

>>13335

Looks like I'm wrong about all images being archived, learn so much here, tx for the question anon.

>>13235 see

>>13367

message for nwb

in case he comes

So good to see you again

Long time, but frens never forget frens

Got to close my eyes soon

Come back for baking seminar, bake conclave, new bakers / returning bakers too

God bless & keep you well

o7

>>13369

Came by qr after working in meta, bred was ghosted but anon stepped up.

<<<<<THIS ANON.

Was so good to see a baker for whom we all have such regard. Shadilay!

>>13370

pic, whoops

>>13380

>OSS back at it

Too bad - here in Meta too, red text and all.

U well?

>>13407

well, it's not all conflict. having a good discussion about shill bakes right now.

did you see above, saw nwb last night for the first time since nov.,

>>13371

made my day.

Any new bakers around?

Let us know whether you have questions, would like to shadow bake, or want bakes checked out.

Even if you don't see posts, bakers check in here every day to see 'sup. We are always available to support new bakers or note-takers.

Baking class archives: class #1 - #12

#1 http://archive.vn/8v5Vm

#2 http://archive.is/DDGZr

#3 http://archive.is/CRZz0

#4 http://archive.is/vYNT2

#5 http://archive.vn/lXDbZ

#6 http://archive.vn/wip/Xx8P3

#7 http://archive.vn/sNOnb

#8 http://archive.vn/up93u

#9 http://archive.vn/kqKOx

#10 http://archive.vn/vBiRO

#11 http://archive.vn/5tAb8

#12 http://archive.vn/lZU6v

(archived by gyb; videos do not archive)

updated archive for baking seminar dough

>>13074

hello baker-fren

(and anyone else in the neighborhood)

finally have a chance to play catch-up for class.

• Just updated the class archive.

• Is it ok if i go back and edit dough for early classes and number them (#1, #2, etc.), so it's uniform?

• Am now in early stages of FAQ page drawing from pages 2 and 3 in dough. Also developing a list to ask bakers to fill in any existing gaps.

• Also attempting to compile some stuff for bakers to look at which would gives rules of thumb for baking (complete with a wide variety of options). Purpose is both to help new bakers make better decisions and to give bakers who are trying to decisions in usual situation something to rely on, so shills can't do the damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't thing. If we can actually come up with something, it can be posted (at least for a while) in Globals so anons can see. Also, so they can comment (and we can make revisions if needed).

>>13499

>>13499

A bit more on #4:

Broadest goal is just to generate a doc listing of generally accepted baking conventions that we've been using all along.

Would help new bakers learn unspoken baking conventions that aren't really covered in the step by step instructions such as handoffs, dough tagging, ghosting, two-baker breads, advice for working with note-takers, etc.*

A byproduct would be to identify issues that come up in unusual situations.

Examples: shill bakes, really bad bread lag, board freezing at end of bread, and conventions about which bakers may disagree.

Important to include: the fact that the vast majority of baking mistakes are mistakes not fuckery.

''Very hard to newish anons to realize just how rare a perfect bake is. Bakers often take bakes under less-than-great circumstances. They may be sick, tired, injured or caring for children. To be slammed by shills for mistakes on top of that is unacceptable. While we can't keep shills from shilling, we can remind anons of what baking really requires and why

*Example: ghosting is by custom done almost every night on gy. But during daytime, it's a different story bc Q is more likely to post. So if a ghost must be done, baker should say so ASAP using red text or bold, keep asking for a replacement, and clearly announce when it's gonna be a "hard stop." If a baker does all that and still can't get a replacement, he should be able to sign out w/a clear conscience. And if shill later tries to give him shit, to tell em to GTFO.

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RE daytime ghost baking :

No baker wants to ghost during non-gy shifts.

>[ghosting] just to see if a 'lotsa' will show up

Well, why does baker want to see if another baker will show up? Usually bc he has baked a lot and is tired/needs a break. Whole lotsa joke comes from shills implying there are lotsa bakers when they aren't. Sometimes bakers just need to stop playing 'parent' role and let anons figure things out on their own.

When i ghost during the day, it is always due to physical limitations, espec recently. If set up properly, can competently bake about one and a half breads when there are no specific problems like eyestrain, so i usually take a bake by announcing I can bake one - and asking for handoff halfway thru each time i post notes. A lot of other bakers know i'm a 'one bred' spot baker for dayshift and will spell me nb if they can. Otherwise, will be forced to ghost @100 or @200 nb. (A baker who's an md reminded me not to mess around with eyestrain especially. None of us should do that.)

Right now, I only take day bakes as an e-baker or when it's a ghosted Q bake. Last one was nerve-wracking coz my baking speed was down, hadn't planned to bake, and wasn't set up. Did it anyway, coz i was the only baker there.

>ghost implies no baker watching

Right now, i often watch over ghost bakes when i can't bake properly. Will give support (fetch sauce, answer newfag q's, or help with dough repairs). Also watch out for shills or other trouble. In a pinch, may e-bake. Both bakers and oldfags try to watch out for the bred if a baker isn't signed in.