Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Q Research General #5754: Then as Now, It Was Always The Jews Edition Dec. 28, 2018, 11:39 p.m. No.4511728   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>2397 >>2489

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>>4433511 ————————————–——– Research for yourself

>>4432768 ————————————–——– TRUTH & FACTS MATTER.

 

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>>4409412 ————————————–——– What was the 16-year plan to destroy America?

>>4408964 ————————————–——– Anons can play this game all day long.

 

Thursday 12/20/18

>>4401036 ————————————–——– History will not repeat itself this time

>>4400956 ————————————–——– Notice a pattern?

>>4393668 ————————————–——– ALICE & MAD HATTER. ( Cap: >>4393888 )

>>4393450 ————————————–——– The [D] party will cease to exist once it's all exposed. ( Cap: >>4393888 )

>>4392683 rt >>4392645 -————————– Old news. ( Cap: >>4393888 )

>>4392646 ————————————–——– You have the keystone. ( Cap: >>4393888 )

>>4392356 ————————————–——– Completed this week.

>>4392305 ————————————–——– Anons know why.

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>>2322789, >>2323031 How To Quickly Spot A Clown

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 28, 2018, 11:41 p.m. No.4511741   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>1776

Notables

are not endorsements

 

Global

>>4430721 BO calls out the 'Highest Ranking Post' script

>>4308334 List of meme-friendly news sites for spreading the truth

>>4461248 BO on /QResearch/ posts per hour (PPH) stats: Be reminded that there are WAY more of us than you might think

 

#5753

>>4511632 Square Inc (SQ) Pres, CEO & Chairman Jack Dorsey Sold $5.3M Shares

>>4511498, >>4511644 Quote from "You Gentiles." Jews "want world of our own"

>>4511585 Moar on CenturyLink Outage, causes scramble for Emerg. Workers

>>4511446 (((The Triggering))) causes 7.0 magnitude EQ in Philippines

>>4511032 Other unusual WW Seismic activity per usgs.gov

>>4511061, >>4511094, >>4511419, >>4511505 Planefags: coasty keepin' us safe

>>4511210 Anon's take on what the hell went down w/ "The Triggering"

>>4511100 Save the Children UK chairman resigns after staff complaints

>>4511013, >>4511022, >>4511370 SputnikNews OpEd on Syria

>>4511191, >>4511387, >>4511397 "Black Eye" 1960-70 anti-hostile satellite plan

>>4511098 They cry that the JQ is anti-Q, but then there's this

>>4511678 #5753

 

#5752

>>4510895, >>4510909 Shills insist baker include hate speech in notables smdh

>>4510251 POTUS Press Twatter throwing out an acknowledgment to Q/anons?

>>4510259 DCNF: Antifa Agitator Tied to Top Democrats

>>4510366, >>4510509 Why is this (((woman))) shaming soldiers for supporting POTUS?

>>4510505 Why was POTUS twatting on the FED way back in 2011?

>>4510379, >>4510408, >>4510501 What do they mean by "goyim?" Are they comped too?

>>4510404 LeBron needs to learn the difference btwn white and (((white)))

>>4510390, >>4510473, >>4510697 Ben (((Shapiro))) struggles w/Free Speech

>>4510273 MSM on POTUS vs. Hussein troop visits (not a dbl std bc... um...)

>>4510241 Small plane crash reported near Horseshoe Bay

>>4510261, >>4510293, >>4510316 @JointTaskForceGitmo: "major shift in major"

>>4510243, >>4510291 "Anon" vs. Anon re: lb's MOS/Corsi notable

>>4510936 #5752

 

#5751

>>4509837 Another Anti-Trump Meltdown caught on Dem Obamafones

>>4510011 Why would (((shills))) go after beloved CM after The Triggering?

>>4510060 Moore, Ortiz: The Fed Must Repeal Its Disastrous Rate Increases

>>4510035 Anon's roll call of this bread's shill tactics. Wew.

>>4510030, >>4510149 YeeHaw! Howard Dean wants to Impeach POTUS for Pres Pelosi

>>4510022 Q clock legit aligns to today's based resistance to (((shills)))

>>4509946 Gaetz twats Shutdown Update: Coast Guard will get paid 12/31

>>4509903, >>4510032 More illness tied to police raids in Niagara Falls

>>4509830, >>4509857, >>4509907 (((JIDF))) to Goyim: It's the Masons!!! Not Jooooobs!!!

>>4509745, >>4509764, >>4509982 Anons uncover Mossad ring/Corsi's (((handler))) in US gov

>>4510195 #5751

 

#5750

>>4508832 India: Cabinet approves death penalty for aggravated sex crimes against children

>>4509022, >>4509071, >>4509259 Shill-spotter/oldfag anons comment on (((patterns)))

>>4508746 Ohio Legislature Flattens Kasich by Overturning His Veto on Pro-Second Amendment Legislation

>>4509388 #5750

 

#5749

>>4508207, >>4508256, >>4508264, >>4508317, >>4508329, >>4508189, >>4508597 Moar planefaggin':

>>4507955, >>4508008 POTUS talking about "Gold Standard" in older vid

>>4507935, >>4507938 Vape shop Trump-Derangement-Syndrome victim vid for keks

>>4507920 Canadian detained in China re: Hwawei affair has been released

>>4508452 #5749

 

#5748

>>4507728 The Deserving Sarah Sanders Person of the Year for Frontpage Mag

>>4507631, >>4507665, >>4507702 Anons insist baker notes more Jew victim pilpul

>>4507585 Pelosi: Jets to Hawaii, Announces House β€˜Climate Crisis’ Committee

>>4507188, >>4507465, >>4507391 "Anons" berry disbleased w/dese notables

>>4507335, >>4507672, >>4507684 Planefaggin': two C-5's out of Dover

>>4507154, >>4507295 Jackson Lee's interest in foster care & FBI pedo symbols

>>4507793 #5748

 

Previously Collected Notables

>>4505449 #5745, >>4506145 #5746, >>4507043 #5747

>>4503002 #5742, >>4503831 #5743, >>4504649 #5744

>>4500618 #5739, >>4501407 #5740, >>4502195 #5741

>>4498319 #5736, >>4499070 #5737, >>4499828 #5738

>>4496027 #5733, >>4496806 #5734, >>4497547 #5735

 

Notables Archive by BO: https://8ch.net/qresearch/notables.html

Notables Archive at /comms/: >>>/comms/225 ; >>>/comms/1536

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 28, 2018, 11:42 p.m. No.4511745   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

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Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 28, 2018, 11:42 p.m. No.4511747   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

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Learn To Bake!

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Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 12:02 a.m. No.4511881   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>1901

>>4511786, >>4511798, >>4511784, >>4511806 (kek)

Thanks guys

 

>>4511776

Kek, no was intentional.

They were saying I wouldn't note it.

Implying I only included things w/their "hate" words

I included the taunt to show they were wrong

And the anon rebuttal showing he knew why.

If they want to be fuckers in-bread re: notables

I see no reason why it shouldn't be notable

They're always pushing to be included aren't they?

If they don't wanna do the time shoudn't do the crime.

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 12:17 a.m. No.4511982   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>2011 >>2026

==Anons, this is the correct bread–

I'll go over there and leave an announcement and flag for BO/BV to lock.

>>4511912, >>4511954 (ty fren, kek)

>#5754: Then as Now, It Was Always The Jews Edition

Nah, it's good. Shills tried to bake to draw anons from The Triggering

>>4511816 (((shill bredd))) kek!

 

>>4511917

Right? About to grab some cold cults.

My time-crunch to-to.

 

>>4511884

>the Baker is a nigger

Nope. Pure Euro phenotype.

 

>>4511911

Horee shit dat face!

 

>>4511932

Yup

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 12:35 a.m. No.4512116   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>2168 >>2222 >>2237

>>4512075

Hey baker, ty. Yeah I posted over there and did a report on the post.

Since we have shills baking tho, until we have BO/BV come in with the check for ya, could you do something else to IDEN? For instance, what were the last bread #'s you baked? (Or if you have a pastebin account, you can post that)

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 12:38 a.m. No.4512134   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>2140 >>2154

>>4512053

>it's just the muhjoo pedo baker.

Woah, now I'm a pedo.

Pedophilia is a serious crime.

You are accusing someone of a serious crime.

We have laws against that practice.

Just so you know.

 

Do it again and it will just add to your rap sheet.

>We Have It All

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 12:48 a.m. No.4512214   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>2238 >>2275

>>4512140

It would have until you fucks started baking parallel shill breads. Guess you're stuck with me a little longer, huh?

 

>>4512154

And now we're intimating actual physical harm.

As well as accusing me of crimes I didn't commit (pedo) you're now making credible threats of violence. Keep it up assholes. Don't think for a minute I won't appear in court as a witness to your behavior. I save it all, you know. A meticulous notekeeper.

And I have the US Mil on my side.

You might wanna rethink this shit.

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 12:52 a.m. No.4512251   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>2265 >>2342 >>2355

>>4512222, >>4512237

Got it. Checks out, ty baker.

(Sorry for abundance of caution, but we have habbenings, kek)

Handoff confirmed

https://pastebin.com/uGciPC6u

 

Notes so far

#5754

>>4511790 Lookback: Aug Analysis of the Matrix on QR & relevant Q drop

>>4511804 Planefags notice "Moose" callsign & wonder – I can haz 8ch?

>>4511800, >>4511802, >>4511805 Resignations in the news today

>>4511902 Dem megadonor meets w/Pelosi, Schumer re: 2020 econ. policy agenda

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 1:01 a.m. No.4512337   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

>>4512164

Dude, please don't waste time here with J-woke bakers and anons. Go enjoy a pumpkin spice soy latte and leave us to our antisemitic ways. We don't deserve high-minded blokes such as yerself. Why don't you prove to us that racism doesn't pay, and leave?

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 1:05 a.m. No.4512378   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

>>4512322

>might want to report them to appropriate orgs if necessary.

Time will come for that.

Fully intend to.

 

Mostly the stuff they do IRL is the plausible-deniability type (was a pharma whistle-blower, was pretty heavily harrassed in the Hussein years). Which is why when they come right out and cross the line unambiguously on the board I make a public statement about it.

 

They're just useful idiots making minimum wage. They really should ask themselves whether it's worth jail time. Are their bosses right that what they're doing is actionable, or am I?

Anonymous ID: 8867f0 Dec. 29, 2018, 1:53 a.m. No.4512727   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>2741 >>2757

>>4512692

>without the psychotic baker?

>P S Y C H O T I C

You guys always have to pathologize stuff we do you don't like. We're here to call out the cabal. Why is so wrong to also point they're almost all Jews? What are the odds it would be that way and not be significant?

I don't call you guys anything but factual assessments of your behavior – liars, cheaters, destroyers, and sexual degenerates – or factual assessments of your associations – JIDF – or identity – Jews.

I don't have to make up other names as a strawman argument for why someone should question the truth of your statements. What does it say about your argument that you do?