Anonymous ID: 1e605d #10778: "Because You'd Be In Jail" Edition March 14, 2020, 4:57 p.m. No.8418440   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>8511

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Anonymous ID: 1e605d March 14, 2020, 4:57 p.m. No.8418449   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>8664

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>>8363658 Iwo Jima flag on YouTube for TOR posting

 

Notables

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#10777

>>8418328 The Spanish Prime Minister's wife, BegoΓ±a GΓ³mez, has tested positive

>>8418258 Bodycam footage exists of Andrew Gillum meth orgy

>>8418197 , >>8418166, >>8418202, >>8418167, >>8418208, >>8418240 Anons on the voice applet

>>8418083 , >>8418081, >>8418203 POTUS tests negative for Wuhan Virus

>>8418034 , >>8418058, >>8418117 Part and full HRC TRUMP Roast: Lots of nuggets

>>8418026 Austin Steinbart Diggs

>>8418006 , >>8417948 Pastor Jentezen Franklin, from POTUS' tweet

>>8417995 National Guard deployed in Georgia

>>8417987 Package of CV vials found at LAX?

>>8417928 POTUS' comms re Italy: Is Italy being freed?

>>8417863 Radical Obama Regulatory Chief Cass Sunstein Resigns. Dig call

>>8417820 Fresh DJT: "Tomorrow I have called for a National Day of Prayer"

>>8417749 , >>8417944 WuFlu Updates

>>8417777 Pupcorn gets the quads

>>8417728 , >>8417765, >>8418104 Anons test the new weapons upgrade Voice Applet

>>8417726 Planefag Reports

>>8418429 #10777

 

#10776

>>8417070, >>8417083, >>8417158, >>8417392 Planefags

>>8417517 Georgia’s primaries postponed. Louisiana plans to postpone primaries too.

>>8417339 Q 945 (President's Time stamp) is 2 year delta tomorrow?

>>8417162, >>8417182, >>8417187 Diplomacy in Syria needed, not military?

>>8417118 memewar material

>>8417100, >>8417156 8kun voice record feature

>>8417062 Israel has further tightened coronavirus restrictions, including limiting gatherings to 10 people and closing all leisure and entertainment venues effective Sunday morning

>>8417053 Trudeau refuses to cancel direct flights from China.

>>8417042 @WhiteHouse The Coronavirus aid package will allow affected workers to continue being paid by their employers, help small- and medium-sized businesses maintain cash flow, and ensure that students receiving meals from school still get them

>>8417031 database of money transfers/Letter of Credit

>>8417623 #10776

 

#10775

>>8416336, >>8416690, >>8416849 planefaggin

>>8416839 LG: Truly appreciate the care package from @FLOTUSMelania Trump and President

>>8416620 The Huck: Gillum don't meth around

>>8416350, >>8416564 Champaign, Illinois, Mayor Deborah Frank Feinen (D) issued an executive order Thursday that gives her the power to halt ammunition and firearm sales in the city

>>8416346 National Day of Prayer memes

>>8416341 @USNationalGuard Today, National Guard members from several states are on duty supporting federal, state and local efforts to respond to COVID-19

>>8416298, >>8416325, >>8416339 Mike Pence RT: Do these five simple things to help stop coronavirus (COVID-19).

>>8416290 About the best use for dirty cop Comey's book.

>>8416268, >>8416355, >>8416425, >>8416470, >>8416525 +Sleepers, What tactics must be deployed?

>>8416245 Covid 19 stats don't add up

>>8416230 Lay it flat, squat, and wrap. Don’t let the NYT touch delicate skin, as Patriots are often allergic to #FakeNews”. For the Keks!

>>8417094 #10775

Anonymous ID: 1e605d March 14, 2020, 4:57 p.m. No.8418451   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

#10774

>>8415630 planefaggin

>>8415984 PapaD: Haspel knows

>>8415818 France to close all restaurants, cafes, cinemas and clubs.

>>8415687 Great resource on Public Employee Salary And Pension Records Across The USA & Govt. waste

>>8415685 Potus: The @CDCgov has published guidelines on CoronaVirus.gov

>>8415628 Potus: Convo with Justin Trudeau

>>8415563 @DonaldJTrumpJr wearing an American flag pin with a Q on it!

>>8415545 Federal Judge Blocks Trump Admin’s Effort to Tighten Food Stamp Program

>>8415534 origin of Potus tweet ItalianAF

>>8415488 This is the journalist turned away from the White House press briefing for having a fever.

>>8415475 Chelsea almost has her fines paid off.

>>8415450 WarRoom memes

>>8415444, >>8415485 @NSAGov Don't even get us started talking about #PiDay, we'll just go on forever!

>>8416095 #10774

 

#10773

>>8414952 planefaggin

>>8415104 EU crisis: Italy tipped to leave eurozone amid coronavirus panic

>>8415080 TWO "Big" Q Proofs along with added confirmation!

>>8415055 @ENERGY 17 #NationalLabs

>>8415029, >>8415056, >>8415075 Bats, Gene Editing and Bioweapons: Recent DARPA Experiments Raise Concerns Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

>>8415003 DOE small business funding for innovation research and tech

>>8414970 President Trump Waives Interest on All Student Loans Held by Fed Govt Agencies Until Further Notice

>>8414911 @USArmy Imagine if you could wrap a small, thin piece of transparent material around any surface and it would charge electronic devices.

>>8414898 $1.4 Million in Cocaine, Methamphetamine Seized at Texas Border Crossings in 24 Hours

>>8414868 Saudi Arabia, African States Impose Travel Bans on Europe – No Accusations of Racism

>>8414851 European Human Rights Court Rules Against Christian Midwives Who Will Not Abort Babies

>>8414783 "A Tsunami Has Arrived" - Spanish Tourism Collapses

>>8414781 Spanish king named on offshore fund linked to €65m Saudi 'gift'

>>8414725 Yellow Vests DEFY Covid-19, lockdown & TEAR GAS to protest Macron government

>>8414715 With more data to sift through, and new technologies with superior search capabilities, odds of hearing from E.T. are rapidly improving

>>8414710, >>8414782 Potus: THE UNITED STATES LOVES ITALY! vid

>>8414687, >>8414932 WarRoom memes

 

Previously Collected Notables

>>8413781 #10771, >>8414731 #10772, >>8415345 #10773,

>>8411550 #10768, >>8412290 #10769, >>8412290 #10769, >>8413035 #10770

>>8408418 #10764, >>8409223 #10765, >>8409992 #10766, >>8410756 #10767

>>8405142 #10760, >>8405926 #10761, >>8406809 #10762, >>8407604 #10763

 

Notables Thread #1, #8960-present: >>7003045

Notables Aggregators: https://wearethene.ws & https://qnotables.com (new)

Notables also archived here: >>>/comms/3396 (#740~#6384), https://8kun.top

Anonymous ID: 1e605d March 14, 2020, 4:57 p.m. No.8418453   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

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[3] Meme and Meme and Meme some MOAR! Your memes are what's waking up the normies.

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Anonymous ID: 1e605d March 14, 2020, 4:58 p.m. No.8418458   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

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Anonymous ID: 1e605d March 14, 2020, 5:45 p.m. No.8418981   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>9022

Notables at 500

Anything to add?

 

>>8418914 Bill Gates Ted Talk on viral epidemics

>>8418887 The Democrats post cabal symbols

>>8418876 Washington Coronavirus death count hits 40 among 642 cases

>>8418861 CV: The Queen leaves Buckingham Palace for Winsor Castle

>>8418841 Storm/Water comms from POTUS?

>>8418822 Follow the wives… Two with CV

>>8418802 Howard huges medical institute connects to Disney and Gates

>>8418782 , >>8418810, >>8418844, >>8418875 Q on 'History' and CFR diggs

>>8418713 Video: Wayne cuts 'Ar-14' for NRA featuring confrontation with Biden

>>8418694 Andrew Gillum meth orgy: Police report shows 'BCW' = Body Camera Worn

>>8418629 Correction / retraction: Don Jr was not wearing a Q pin

>>8418563 Mexico is racist? Don Jr

>>8415112 Hanno Kirk: New link to autism epidemic

>>8418492 Don Jr tests negative

Anonymous ID: 1e605d March 14, 2020, 6:02 p.m. No.8419129   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun   >>9145 >>9167 >>9176

Updated Notables

All in?

 

>>8418949 Decode / Side x Side: Q Post 113, Big, Big & Bigger

>>8418813 , >>8418834 PRAYER DAY - MISSION CALL - Hashtag #DayOfPrayer

>>8418994 Profile of U.S. Coronavirus deaths to date: Elderly, sick

>>8418617 Anon creates the first POTUS voice applet

>>8418914 Bill Gates Ted Talk on viral epidemics

>>8418887 The Democrats post cabal symbols

>>8418876 Washington Coronavirus death count hits 40 among 642 cases

>>8418861 CV: The Queen leaves Buckingham Palace for Winsor Castle

>>8418841 Storm/Water comms from POTUS?

>>8418822 Follow the wives… Two with CV

>>8418802 Howard huges medical institute connects to Disney and Gates

>>8418782 , >>8418810, >>8418844, >>8418875 Q on 'History' and CFR diggs

>>8418713 Video: Wayne cuts 'Ar-14' for NRA featuring confrontation with Biden

>>8418694 Andrew Gillum meth orgy: Police report shows 'BCW' = Body Camera Worn

>>8418629 Correction / retraction: Don Jr was not wearing a Q pin

>>8418563 Mexico is racist? Don Jr

>>8415112 Hanno Kirk: New link to autism epidemic

>>8418492 Don Jr tests negative

 

Backup baker, ready to rock nb?

Anonymous ID: 1e605d March 14, 2020, 6:08 p.m. No.8419192   πŸ—„οΈ.is πŸ”—kun

#10778

>>8418813 , >>8418834 PRAYER DAY - MISSION CALL - Hashtag #DayOfPrayer

>>8418949 Decode / Side x Side: Q Post 113, Big, Big & Bigger

>>8418994 Profile of U.S. Coronavirus deaths to date: Elderly, sick

>>8418617 Anon creates the first POTUS voice applet post

>>8418914 Bill Gates Ted Talk on viral epidemics

>>8418887 The Democrats post cabal symbols

>>8418876 Washington Coronavirus death count hits 40 among 642 cases

>>8418861 CV: The Queen leaves Buckingham Palace for Winsor Castle

>>8418841 Storm/Water comms from POTUS?

>>8418822 Follow the wives… Two with CV

>>8418802 Howard huges medical institute connects to Disney and Gates

>>8418782 , >>8418810, >>8418844, >>8418875 Q on 'History' and CFR diggs

>>8418713 Video: Wayne cuts 'Ar-14' for NRA featuring confrontation with Biden

>>8418694 Andrew Gillum meth orgy: Police report shows 'BCW' = Body Camera Worn

>>8418629 Correction / retraction: Don Jr was not wearing a Q pin

>>8418563 Mexico is racist? Don Jr

>>8415112 Hanno Kirk: New link to autism epidemic

>>8418492 Don Jr tweet: "Negative!" Is he talking about POTUS or himself?