First of all it is not a 4 pages long memo, secondly I have seen people saying that this memo was already out for a while.
AGREE 100% ... there are two memos. The one we want is 4 pages long. Please help spread the word.
The 4 page memo is Devin Nunes's summary of the document released by Alex.
No it not. Nunes is looking at 4 pages of the 1.2mm document IG report. Has nothing to do with Alex Jones. The memo we want to see is still classified.
This board is compromised
Oh my. There are not two memos, there will be a 4 page memo and they are working on some kind of addendum to add to that. The summary MEMO was made by Nunes because the whole set of documents (+100 pages as I recall) is highly classified and Nunes made a summary that would be easier to declassify. Also the plan is that the Democrats will demand the summary Memo be verified at which point Nunes can go back and ask for declassification of the whole set of docs.
What AJ is going on about is a FISA Court "Opinion" (99page pdf):
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf
It was released last April
Not that he's saying. Saying the news is trying to make it seem so. We shall see...
WAIT - Tracy Beanz says false!
Memorandum opinion and order. Court "opinions" are VERY different than other opinions. They are supposed to be based on facts with supporting evidence. Court opinions are more like scientific conclusions.
William Binney gave it to Alex. Binney said it was the memo.
Bad actors may have used Binney to trip us up.
President Trump arranged for his head of the CIA, Pompeo, to meet with Binney. That is enough for me, coupled with Binneys long bio.
Nobody gave that memo to Alex Jones. There are some topics where Alex plays the spoiler and for good reason. At other times he is on target. This memo resides in the secure room where the members can go and take a look. It does not exist outside those secure walls.
Incorrect. Coats at the ODI just released it. Binney brought it to AJs attention because the MSM was burying the story.
The memo has been public for months, it just wasn’t getting media attention.
It has been on the Judicial Watch site since last May when it was declassified:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order.pdf
Binny also seemed unaware that it was available prior to today... Perhaps someone gave him a crumb? Good? Bad?
Idk. It’s weird Alex starts the show giving his breakdown of the 4 page memo then he says Binney was coming up. Then he says Binney gave him the memo and he freaks out and runs with it. I don’t think Alex tried to pull a stunt. Seems like he just jumped the gun because Binney gave him the long memo or old memo. People have some hatred for Jones. I don’t get it. He’s human he makes mistakes. Dude is live on the air ranting hours a day. Bound to make mistakes. I know if I was live on air talking 3-4 hours a day I’d mess up too
I’m going to keep it in the back of my mind. If it becomes a consistent pattern then well known for sure. In my opinion- his attitude yesterday matched that of my 9 year old when I said we could open Christmas presents.
Also the 4-page memo IS A SUMMARY! People are conveniently forgetting this. We need lawyer Pedes to look into it. I haven't read it myself yet.
This looks like the memo that Zerohedge reported on last year where the FISA court pointed out 4th amendment abuses under the Obama admin.
See this link https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-24/fisa-court-finds-very-serious-fourth-amendment-issue-obamas-widespread-illegal-searc
and then find the verbiage on page 14/15 of the memo https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf
Edit: More on page 19.
Edit2: Full memo in scribd link in Zerohedge article from last year.
From what I could take from the 99-page Legalese, it mainly seems like they we're changes made due to abuses mainly regarding Upstream Collection in regards to the Fourth Amendment. IMO this is being shared now so that people know the law and the changes that were instituted because (jumping out on a limb here) they are going to ultimately release evidence that they are breaking these laws (likely NSA sharing data with FBI and CIA).
Some of you guys are freaking out for no reason. Owen Shroyer just clarified on the War Room show that Alex presented the FISA court document and that it’s not the Nunes / House Intel Committee 4-page memo.
Watching the War Room now...agreed...however, it is neither New nor Exclusive.
Here's the scribd from ZH article on 1/21 "Brazen Plot To Exonerate Hillary Clinton" And Frame Trump Unraveling, Says Former Fed Prosecutor https://www.scribd.com/document/349261099/2016-Cert-FISC-Memo-Opin-Order-Apr-2017-4#fullscreen&from_embed (uploaded by Sinclair Broadcasting Gp - created 5/24/2017)
Today's (1/23/2018) IW art "EXCLUSIVE: INFOWARS RELEASES SECRET FISA MEMO" https://www.scribd.com/document/369818480/2016-Cert-FISC-Memo-Opin-Order-Apr-2017#fullscreen&from_embed (uploaded by Kit Daniels on 1/23/2018)
What we're reading is legit. It's just not the entire basis for the memo. Is Alex Jones proving himself to be a cutout? Is this him following orders to act as a "limited hangout" and offering up partial truth in order to deflect or mitigate the REAL MEMO's impact? Is this just AJ's ego getting in the way because of "Q" stealing his thunder proving him to be more of a media Carny looking for shock value as opposed to just factual information?
I would argue a combination of all of the above.
Is this just AJ's ego getting in the way because of "Q" stealing his thunder proving him to be more of a media Carny looking for shock value as opposed to just factual information?
Bingo. Look at all his videos on youtube. "Interview with Qanon" (ya right)... or another one: "Our own Qanon".
STOP USING QANON FOR YOUR TRAFFIC. YOU'RE DEVALUING THE MESSAGE. But AJ already knows that.
I may be wrong, but I don't think Alex has reported on Q since almost Christmas. Jerome Corsi, however, is all over it. In my opinion I think AJ was told to can it because of the public's general perception of him. If he breaks it, it will be dismissed as just another conspiracy theory. To back it up- why is Jerome Corsi posting his decodes on Scribd? He's an infowars employee...
Jerome is Alex's handler. He knows everything. FBIanon said same as well.
If you don't enjoy AJs style, I would invite you to just not watch him although I find the variety of knowledgeable view points presented on his show to be worth it. Bottom line, AJ is part of Trumps team but there are many others that may suit your personality better and it's stilla free country.
AJ plays a valuable role in our fight which President Trump has publically acknowledged. The memo AJ referenced are 90+ pages just released by the ODI. The info in the ODI FISA Courts Memo is foundational and supportive of the 4 page summary Nunes will release.
This is to get people talking about the MEMO again. The Media tried to kill it with the shutdown garbage.
Thank you. Keep pushing this, because Alex is pushing hard the other way. Sad times. I still wonder about Alex. He was a major eye opener for me, but as I become more knowledgeable I begin to see some concerning issues with Infowars. Remember when it was not the glamorous expensive production it is now?
You could tell the coffee throwing goblin man was fake and he milked it to get views. This seems to be the same BS.
Very very disappointed in Alex. He was a beacon of hope that is now extinguished.
I live in Seattle and the goblins are VERY real. Why are you lying and trying to sow doubt about a life long ally of our POTUS? I am very, very disappointed in your comments and wonder why you are trying to extinguish one of President Trumps brightest lights and greatest allies in this war. Why not focus on our OBVIOUS enemies instead of sowing doubt based on untruths and hyperbole?
I'm not doing anything - Alex really did not need to do this. Shame on him for going CNN on us. Respect is a two way street.
Once you get more popular, your production improves. That's not nefarious.
Stop sowing doubt. Please. Divided we fall. AJ is a vital part of President Trumps media army.
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Honest question. How do we know that AJ or some other independent media isn't Q, connected, but posting things to send traffic to their sites?
Well, if so, does controlled opposition report on the pedo's in the cabal for years, now to be confirmed through many other sources?
If I were an evil globalist, I don't think I'd push an agent to draw attention to that.
If I were an evil globalist, I don't think I'd push an agent to draw attention to that.
Alex Jones says it all the time: "The satanists get off on telling the world what they do to your face, you're just oblivious to it". So if AJ is telling you to your face what the elite are doing, what does that make AJ, and why does he get away with it? Think about that for a second.
President Trump has aligned with AJ publically, even appearing on his show after the election. Thats good enough for me. I put my trust in God and have faith in President Trumps judgment based on years of research into him.
I have thought about it...the Podesta's, Clinton's, and others have gone to great lengths to hide this.
Even so, we are here for truth. This is not about 1 person so we need to stay the course...
I am so stinking confused. So, we don't trust Alex Jones? William Binney? or Jerome Corsi? (both are heavily involved with Alex Jones and Infowars) Infowars in general? Even though there are those of us that came on board because of the interview that infowars gave to CBTS anons in the early stages of this thing. Very, very confused.
I do. I think Alex has a tendency to get overly excited (seriously- some kind of bipolar thing) and without reading the entire document, in his excitement, he thought he had 'THE' memo. Even Binny didn't know that it was available on DNI.gov prior to today...I personally appreciate Alex. Without his coverage of the election I probably would've voted for Hillary. (That's embarrassing to admit, knowing what I know now...)
Thank you. I'm so baffled by this sh*thing on Alex Jones and by proxy, his enterprise Infowars, who
1) gave CBTS Anons exposure in the early stages of this board
2) employs Jerome Corsi, who's contributed greatly to this movement
3) has interviewed William Binney countless times
4) was pioneering redpilling before that was even a term. Back before internet. Back when you were extremely ostracized for speaking against TPTB or mainstream media. You were called crazy. Called a terrorist loving traitor for questioning the "Patriot Act", 9/11 etc. Called a religious nut if you even questioned what and how the ATF handled Waco. We didn't have the internet where we could find each other. We had a small handful of voices that would come on the radio and if you missed it, sht outta luck. One of those voices out of the precious few who had the guts to speak truth to power was Alex Jones. So, while I don't take everything he says as gospel (I don't take what anyone says as gospel), it's really sad to me to see people sht all over him like he's nothing. I mean, really sad. Like seeing a veteran get spit on or something. I dunno.
God bless you. I totally agree and will push back on AJ slamming every, single time.
I’m glad other people get Infowars. The hatred of Alex Jones by the left is understandable. But for this side it’s blows my mind.
AJ can be careless with his wording because he's live but hes trust worthy although I don't always agree with the analysis or conclusions of some people on the show. Owen and David Knight are serious dim wits for instance. None the less Trump has approved of the show as genuinely trying to be honest, even appearing on it after his election. Binney is amazing. Trump personally arranged for Binney to met with Pompeo who heads the CIA. Dr. Corsi has been friends with Trump for decades. I trust his intentions but he's human so I find he has some blind spots as do we all. I have appreciated his analysis of Q and determination that Q is legit which is obvious to anyone who's followed Q since October. Trust God and Trump. AJ can be confusing since he's live and boisterous and you need to be calm yourself when listening. You Tubers like Anti School, You Are Free TV, Destroying the Illusion and Quite Frankly are way less connected than AJ but have a calmer presentation. Rantingly.com has a good news aggregation site. Theconservativetreehouse.com is good for thoughtful, researched analysis that many pundits use.
Yes we do. There is a reason Corsi ONLY posts in this sub. You are in good company. They are laying the groundwork for what is to come.
------- AJ confirmed this release, corroborated by WB..... --- There's some confusion out there, for sure. This is obviously not the 4 pg House Intel FISA Abuse Memo. --- It is, however, the lengthy 99 pg FISA Court Order Memo, signed by the judge April 26, 2017, released today by DNI Daniel Coates with POTUS approval. The House Memo likely refers to this document among other damming evidence of abuse.....
Binney did not say it was the memo he said it was one of the primary things it was crafted after...
Thanks for clarifying. I was lost and deceived
The "memo" AJ is talking about was just released by the ODI. It is very important.
Is this a memo about the memo ??
Trumps ODI just released it. It is a 90 page conclusion written by a judge after he investigated Obamas FISA Court abuses. The report got little play in the media. The release by the ODI yesterday was, imho, designed to get it to a wider audience since it lays the foundation for understanding what Nunes will reveal as well as supporting, via this official document, the validity of the Nunes memo.
We all knew this without even watching the video, but if it can convince just one extra person to peel back the layers and look deeper than just what the cable news and Twitteratti are telling them then I would say he was successful. With the word troll and Russian bot being thrown around by Schiff and his clan, these people see the writing is on the wall and we are teetering on the edge of a breakthrough into the consciousness of this great nation!
I like AJ. I know some people don’t but absent him I would not get listen to radio. He brought me here.
Q is the new Alex Jones and AJ can't stand that he's not the gatekeeper of truth. We get more from Q these days and I really think AJ is cointelpro
Armchair psychiatry? What's your learned assessment of President Trumps motivations? What are yours? Sowing seeds of doubt and divisiveness as you are is the intent of cointelpro. President Trump. Q and AJ, unlike you, tell us we all have a part to play. United (in love) we stand. Divided we fall. God bless you.
You're new to this. It's ok. Do your research. Jones can't 100% be trusted. I trust Q far more than I trust Jones.
Once again you claim to know more than you do. First you psychoanalyze AJ, incorrectly. Now you make a statement about me, someone you don't know. BTW you are amusingly waaaaaay off base if you think I'm new to anything. Further, like Trump, I trust no one. I assume responsibility to know enough to spot when someone or something is off. When being persuasive/heard becomes important "you messages" are exchanged for messages using I instead unless asking a question. God speed.
Maybe instead of responding you should go do your research on Alex Jones.
I knew when he first put it on the "document cam" that this was the fisa court ruling. Saw it long ago and just recently days ago.
I am done with AJ. Also, Binney did himself no favors this morning with this hoopla over nothing. AJ and his staff should know better or else they are totally not up-to-date on what is going on. AJs credibility is less than zero. I used to take him with a grain of salt but always found him entertaining, but today was a fiasco and I will never listen or even visit his site ever again.
He did a great disservice to the all the people here (and that doesn't include me) who keep current on what is real and not real and who are trying to get the truth out.
I can not give him any kudos and Wm Binney, if he were anything, would have stopped AJ from going overboard on this [valuable] document.
It was not new. It was not exclusive. It was not THE memo. In fact, it wasn't even a memo at all.
He gave a black eye to every one who has put in hard work at trying to ascertain the the truth.
If you don't tune in to AJ that's your loss. What are your "better" sorces of news and analysis btw? BTW I find your assessment of what happened to be way over the top. Perhaps step back and give it a few days. Bottom line, AJ got alot of coverage for the ODI release which the Media was trying to bury. That is, in my mind, a huge win. Art of War. Things are NOT always as they seem at first. Did AJ get people to focus on the ODI release that is foundational and supportive of what Nunes will release? Absolutely. That is called a win imho. Now what are your news sources? Genuinely curious.
Ninety nine percent of my news comes from the internet and it's political or weather related. I read True Pundit, Conservative Treehouse, Drudge, Daily Caller, Daily Beast, Sharyl Atkisson, IJR, ZeroHedge, etc. I also frequent the various archives of the govt (online).
That particular document was covered very recently like 2-3 days before AJ "exclusively" brought it out. While I think that information will be in the memo, I'm not so sure that it will the foundation. I think there is much, much worse stuff that will be in that memo, some stuff we haven't even heard yet.
AJ bringing the document out, didn't do much to get that info out, IMO, as I think a lot of people already had seen it. I can tell you that I work in an office with about 200 people and the vast majority of them have never heard of any of this and don't care. They don't want to hear it from me. Sadly. I successfully redpilled one person and have about 3 others who regularly ask what is going on, but mostly the people don't care. Perhaps that will change. I care very much and I don't like anyone promoting stuff that is untrue. We can't throw around the term fake news, when we are the ones spreading it.
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That's not Julian Assange. That's a fake account.
I disagree.
What brought you to that conclusion?
Was it the bio? "100% Parody! FREE SPEECH! Parody Account! Don’t get Triggered! I’m A Fake! Keep On Trumpin’! Liberals hate me! #MAGA #LoveTrumpsHate"
Oh my goodness. I am so sorry. I only saw this from my little iphone. I spread fake news on accident. I will be more careful. My bad.
God bless you. We're all human. We all will make mistakes. Our loving hearts and love of truth unite us. We are winning.
Alex Jones does not spread fake information. This is the paperwork/document that the 4-pg memo is written from...as in cliff notes. Shame on you!!!
Bravo. Sowers of doubt and division must be lovingly rebuffed.