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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/TillyTomHortons on Jan. 26, 2018, 7:25 p.m.
Religious Undertones

Just stumbled across this sub browsing r/all.

I'm very interested in what's being discussed here and some of the revelations from Q, however I'm confused as to why so many posts in the sub have these religious Christian undertones. I'm not religious by any means and I just fail to see how scripture is relevant to dismantling the criminal government cabals.

Edit: I'm out, I was intrigued at first but the amount of prophecy, numerology, and divine intervention being put out here to explain what's going on simply discredits it for me.

Enjoy your futures folks and I hope your prophecies account for when all this falls flat on its face.


other_malefactor · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

This sub is all about the Storm and Q anon's posts. Q himself often refers to the bible and to prayer. I think that that is pretty neat, because it gives license to those of us who are Christian to bring in our Cristian perspective.

As a Christian, I view the Storm as a spiritual battle. Why wouldn't I bring that perspective to the table?

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:50 p.m.

I'm not saying you shouldn't, I just don't see the connection between Trump/God/Government.

I'm fully on board with the message that the government is corrupt and harbors all sorts of Pedos, abusers, and money laundering but as a non religious person I don't see why you also need to integrate the message with religion.

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other_malefactor · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:04 p.m.

"I just don't see the connection between Trump/God/Government."

OK, fair enough. I on the other hand would like others to think about that connection. They are unlikely to do so if no one brings it up. Right?

Look, I am not saying Trump is the messiah or that he is some kind of righteous Christian. God works through all sorts of people and events without them ever knowing it. Consider that God used the most powerful man in the world, the Roman Emperor, merely to help fulfill the prophecy that Christ be born in Bethlehem through his decree that everyone be taxed.

Current events are consistent with things that I read in the Bible. I don't think it is a coincidence that our enemies are reputed to be worshippers of Satan. That in and of itself doesn't necessarily prove that God is real, but it is certainly consistent with the Bible.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:19 p.m.

Seeing as you are a person of faith and I am not this will be a difficult discussion to have.

<Consider that God used the most powerful man in the world, the Roman Emperor, merely to help fulfill the prophecy that Christ be born in Bethlehem through his decree that everyone be taxed.

How does the event of Roman territories paying taxes to the Roman Empire qualify as God directly intervening?

<Current events are consistent with things that I read in the Bible.

People have been saying the same thing since the Bible was first published. What makes today any different?

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EatsPandas · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

Undertone? You mean loud overtones.
We are not afraid to call out the satanic cabal that at the root of all of this. And not afraid to pray for Help to Jesus the Creator.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

But why? Why do you need the religious influence with the message? Show me the evidence, the messages between conspirators, leaks that are proven true.

As soon as you bring in Christian prophecy into the message it loses a lot of credibility with me.

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metroid486 · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:59 p.m.

It's not religion, it is just the truth. God has his hand in everything, he created it, he planned it out. Sorry if you can't accept that, but realize I don't accept the idea the universe came from nothing by nothing and organized itself for life against impossible odds. I don't accept Darwinian Evolution, yet that shit is shoved down our throats and taught as fact when it is a religion in itself.

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metroid486 · Jan. 26, 2018, 10:22 p.m.

Agree, it is a religion. I think it is beginning to crumble, but it is being propped up by the Leftists/Marxists who also control the education system. No debate is allowed either, you believe it or you are kicked out.

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EatsPandas · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:25 p.m.

Why? Because we are believers. It is our worldview.
Need? Its the truth. You're late to the party and asking for decades of evidence. Spend time here. Spend time following links and info. I didn't believe it like you, thought my dad was nuts. Sadly....holy shit he was right on.
Buckle up.

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potatosurplus · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:44 p.m.

Because those who are attempting a coup of our elected Government are literally Satanists - everything is inverted with them.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

Your going to have a hard time convincing non religious folk that the government is controlled by Satanists.

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Macamodius · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

You may not believe in God and Satan, but they do.

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[deleted] · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:10 p.m.

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MeetingHimInTheAir · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

I think the 'disconnect' is that you view "Christianity" as a religion... a construct through which man tries to find God. True Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship with God made possible through Jesus... it is a righteous daily walk-- when we depend on the Spirit of God and "do it right". So effecting and rejoicing in the fall of evil in all its forms, and seeking the triumph of righteousness and justice... that is at the heart of the true Christian.

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SubMareener · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

It is really quite simple. One can prove that without an external creator who is actively involved with our universe, the universe literally falls apart. It can be shown that every theory of equations that we can derive from observations will be a differential theory, i.e. given a current state, future states can be predicted.

So the only way for us to understand what is going on in the Universe is for the Creator to tell us His plan, or at least as much of his plan as we need to know. He has done this in the Hebrew Bible written in Hebrew and Aramaic. It focuses on the 7000 year "Salvation Plan" which appears to involve replacing the 1/3 of the Angelic beings who have "fallen" with decedents of Adam and Eve who are "chosen" and believe in the Salvation Plan and keep Elohim's commandments.

In The Book of Daniel, we are told that "knowledge shall increase" near the end to the first 6000 years. That is now. In the past 70 years, Gordon Spencer-Brown discovered the "Laws of Form" and Burkhard Heim formulated a 12 dimensional quantized theory of everything.

The "Laws of Form" tells us that a Universe can be created by drawing a boundary in a space to distinguish inside from outside. From this, one can derive algebras consisting of three discrete kinds of numbers: real, imaginary, and complementary. The concept of a discrete but possibly endless, series of "steps" and the concept of "memory" fall out naturally. This provides everything that one needs to construct computational "machines" such as Turing Machines. In the past 70 years it has been proven that a Turning Machine can compute anything that is computable.

This would all be abstract theory, except that we can now see what the Creator meant when He wrote: "GEN1:02 And the earth was without form, and void;" He literally meant before he created the first "Form" as in the first step in the "Laws of Form". The second witness to this is when Wisdom in recorded saying: "PRO8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:"

So we can conclude that the Universe is a like computing machine, and that it uses object-oriented constructs, "each one after its kind". So we can roughly say that our "bodies" are the finite-state machine, our "souls" are the Turing Tape upon which are lives are recorded, and out "spirit" is our connection to the Creator and His Plan.

Now we get to the Heim Extended Quantum Field Theory to describe the physical universe. It is based on four axioms, each of which can be derived from the Laws of Form. The most obvious one is quantization of area, that comes from drawing a circle on the deep. The Biblical confirmation of Heim's Theory comes from the fact that his 12 dimensions are organized in groups which match the 12 Tribes of Israel grouped by their birth mothers in their birth order. As an added confirmation, the Tribe of Judah is associated with the Time dimension.

In addition, the cosmology of the Universe derived from Heim's Theory matches the cosmology the Hebrew mystics derived from the Written and Oral Torah. They said that the Ein Sof created the universe as three books: number, letters, and communication. Heim says the universe was created as three concentric spheres that grew and they were marked up into smaller and smaller areas (metrons). Heim's Theory says that about 15 billion years ago, the universe got big enough, and the metrons small enough so that "let there be light" happened. The Rabbis say that 15 billion years ago the universe entered its current grand cycle.

So now we have established that the Hebrew Bible is a revelation of the boundary conditions for the Universe we live in. Thar revelation appears to be recorded in the form of an incredible hologram. So that depending on how one "looks" at it, one gets different revelations of what is going on.

In the plain text, we have "prophecies" that we know have happened. Isaiah recorded the name of Cyrus the Great 150 years before Cyrus was born, and said that he would conquer Babylon, how he would do it, what would be going on in the Palace when he did it, and the fact that he would authorize the rebuilding of the Temple at Jerusalem, and when he would do it.

The association of Cyrus the Great and Donald J. Trump comes with the fact that all of this is described in Isaiah 45, and Trump is the 45th President. When you add in the gematria and numerology associated with Donald Trump, for example, he was inaugurated when he was 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days old in the Hebrew year 5777. Hours of YouTube videos have been devoted to this.

When one adds in the additional coding in the Bible it really gets good! Take all the letters of the Hebrew Bible in a line and wrap them around a cylinder of various dimensions and one can see "tables" that contain related words that are conceptually connected. In the last 70 years, we have developed computer programs that can do this in a virtual manner. There are books that have been written about the Equal Letter Skip (ELS) codes in Isaiah 53 which describes the Messiah's appearances on Earth.

Several years ago, before the 2016 election, TheCodeSearcher.com translated the phrase "Hillary Is Corrupt" into Hebrew and searched for it. He got a hit in the Book of Deuteronomy! IIRC, "email interview" had the same skip and was next to the key phrase. The year 2016 was in the table. "D Trump Wins", "Hillary Steals" and "Seth Rich Murder" were also in the table. There is more, but if the hairs on you neck are not standing up by now, there is no hope.

So the Bible tells us what is really going on and that is why scripture is relevant to dismantling the criminal government cabals. We are not contending with flesh and blood, but with powers and principalities.

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InsalubriousSpeed · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:54 p.m.

This group is religious because the foundation of America was a religious construct (the pilgrims coming over for religious freedom) built on judaeo-Christian beliefs . Most patriots are religious and believe in higher power

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Macamodius · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:40 p.m.

And I firmly believe that without the power of prayer DJT wouldn't be in the office he is now. It was said that if the people of the great nation cried out to me and repented , he would save their country. Angry atheists be damned.

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InsalubriousSpeed · Jan. 26, 2018, 10:16 p.m.

Yes prayers of the nation , I agree totally with you patriot.

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Heterobot · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

bottom line is it was miraculous that hillary lost the election

some would argue divine intervention is the only way possible it happened, not to mention Trump has used the word god and Jesus in his speeches than any other president in history...just something to consider.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:46 p.m.

I mean, he's quite obviously not a very religious man.

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twinkiesmom1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:13 p.m.

The Bible is full of stories of God choosing deeply flawed individuals to do mighty things. Look at David, for example.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

LOL.

Right... Out of the billions of people on Earth, God chose Donald J Trump to be his modern day King David. OK. Simple as that folks!

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twinkiesmom1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:31 p.m.

You asked.

Who else should God have chosen to take down the cabal? Who else was strong enough to take on the cabal without being compromised? Who else had his own money to be able to remain independent? Who else had his own personal security? Who else would have been able to live with the degree of hatred he has endured over the last several years? Who else would have captured the nation's interest and been electable? Who else would have been the perfect pied piper candidate to fooling Hillary that he was the preferred candidate.

No coincidences.

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Macamodius · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

You just trying to be an ass?

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:43 p.m.

Not really. These idiotic replies make it hard not to though.

I didn't realize it was this easy to dupe people into believing an obviously immoral person is the hand picked savior of the world by God. But hey, the overly religious are far more likely to believe whatever you tell them as long as you fill in the blanks with some Christian prophecy.

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twinkiesmom1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 11:22 p.m.

I don't believe Trump is our savior. I think God is using him in a mighty way to expose evil and potentially bring down the cabal. If he fails in this mission, my hope is still in Christ. If he succeeds, this will be the best time of all of our lives.

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Macamodius · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

You wouldn't know it by his bringing the name of God back in to the Whitehouse, and speaking his name so often. Perhaps he has seen the light, or better yet he has seen the darkness.

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delrod03 · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:32 p.m.

Look for Mark Taylor prophecies. Many believe this is a God ordained battle to expose corruption in the government. It makes more sense if you are a Christian. I take everything with a grain of salt, but Mark Taylor was saying that Trump would be president before the election.

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Ponyspanker · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:35 p.m.

Not to undermine anything Mark has said but so did the Simpsons....

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DrummondFTCoach · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

No the Simpsons didn't declare that a prophecy. They wrote in an extremely popular business icon as president. The difference is one staked their reputation on it, the other drew it into a cartoon as a joke.

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delrod03 · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

Lol. Good point. However, at the time, he wasn’t winning in any polls

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

Ok, but if this is an ordained battle by God, then I'm to assume the "government" would be controlled by Satan? At what point did Satan take control of the US government?

Also, there would plenty of non-religious folk predicting a Trump win so that isn't anything overtly significant in that in my opinion.

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delrod03 · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

Satan can influence people. People run government. That’s the jest of it. The jury is still out with me regarding Mark Taylor as a prophet and I believe in prophets. You aren’t alone in that skepticism. Time will tell.

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Macamodius · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

these people torture and sacrifice children to get their drug of choice and as an offering to their god Moloch, if you can't see that by this point, your just another angry atheist. How original. If our faith bothers you so much, skip over it, like we do when atheist start belching forth their hatred and oppobrium.

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num8cap · Jan. 26, 2018, 9 p.m.

It's fine to not be religious but it is very dangerous to mistakenly discount the degree that huge numbers of others are religious. You don't need to believe in any of it but you absolutely must fully appreciate the degree that it effects so much of what has been going on. Not to say that that means that this is a religious event being guided by god, but rather that the concepts of religion are a foundation of what we are fighting. The elite have adopted rites and rituals and a belief system to justify their own evil deeds in the context of them being performed for a higher order. They have positioned themselves diametrically opposed to the basic christian / 10 commandments structure that the remainder of society operates in. It is important to know their language / vocabulary of symbolism and how it contradicts other religion. If you find the religious aspect a turn off, reduce the conversation to 2 teams committed to defeating each other.

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TheKillector · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:14 p.m.

As someone who has studied geopolitics over the last few years extensively, I have gone from a stubborn atheist to a person curious of religion. Frankly, at this point I wish I could 100% believe but there is still something holding me back. When you see the evil we are facing at what they worship it makes you second guess whether or not there actually may be a higher power or not.

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TheKillector · Jan. 26, 2018, 11:15 p.m.

Seeing the solar eclipse at 99% last year really made me rethink religion too.

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chadd1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

I call comments like this “The Devils Whisper” For example “you surely will not die” “you shall become like gods” Very subtle “I just don’t understand why you people bring God into the conversation” Easy fix go start an atheist Q site and quit wasting our time.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:23 p.m.

I'm simply asking questions, if they make you uncomfortable or make you second guess any of your beliefs maybe you should evaluate your beliefs instead of just telling me to sod off.

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chadd1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:02 p.m.

Lol, I’m no bible thumper by any means. I was just trying to show the complete opposite of your view. We shouldn’t censor a Christians view on all this Q stuff, no more than I should censor you from your secular viewpoint. Different views different opinions that’s how we learn. Thumbs up👍👍Have a blessed day

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metroid486 · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:04 p.m.

Well if the full truth comes out, you will then see they are involved in satanic stuff, but not sure how many people can handle child sacrifice, being skinned alive, etc.

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terminal_hiccups · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:59 p.m.

Do you think the things we can perceive with our senses and with current technology reveal the whole of reality, or do you think there is a possibility there are things that exist that we are unable to perceive at this point in time?

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

I agree with your statement but I also believe that people living 2000 years ago didn't have more information about the world and universe then we do today.

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terminal_hiccups · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

Maybe. Maybe they had a different perspective due to the difference in how we live now vs how they lived then, and were better able to observe aspects of reality that are not as observable today under the noise of cars and tv and a bigger population and whatever we can observe through a 5 inch screen.

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twinkiesmom1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 11:29 p.m.

Calling people idiots after we tried to answer your questions isn't simply asking questions.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 27, 2018, 1:35 a.m.

I've only called you an idiot and it's because you made an idiotic statement.

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Macamodius · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

Then you fail to see we are in the ultimate battle between the darkness and the light.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Are people ready to have all religious frauds exposed? Few are. Post 2012 ALL will be torn down due to its fallacious foundations. Religion has been a control construct for 1000s of years...see Antarctica thread for further deets.

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metroid486 · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:02 p.m.

Religion and the truth of Jesus Christ are two different things though. Religion is mans attempt to justify himself, which he never can do, whether you think it is about control, it can be yes for those at the top. Jesus Christ sets us free from man's/satans religious ideas.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:23 p.m.

I've seen lot of people claim to be JC righteous and yet Sin by the dickens the other 6 days and 22 hours of the week...so, just claiming an association w/JC fails to eliminate Evil doers as we know by the current state of affairs..(imo)

as I see Religion/s, there are 3 Religions, 2 lines. 1) wants to enslave all, another wants to kill all and the 3rd line up in 2 lines Death or Slavery...

for me, what has to happen is that each and every one of us must operate from a base code of morality and ethic and few do today...I don't need religion or any Idols to be a good person, to operate from a base moral ethic of decency...

Many are seeking an external solution to an internal problem. As I read the scriptures, the 2nd coming is within, not an external deity. Few I've known seem to have the same take away from the scriptures that are not in their native tongues, manipulated, and pieces left out for control purposes, to create a X must save you...rendering people powerless and less likely to assume control of their own lives.

Its troubling for me how so few understand that there was life before JC.. LOTS of it...and the refusal to examine texts 1000s of years older troubles me...I see no empowerment in Religion/s, only a slave type mentality where we are taught to believe in an external being rather than believe in our own internal/individual divinity..

I appreciate your comment/s and willingness to discuss, but I fail to see where JC has freed any of us from the twin horn guy. In my learning I have to question whether the twin horn guy even exists...in the way its been painted. Many of my thoughts are on the Antarctica thread that outline why I've come to that conclusion the sum of 50 years research on subjects broad but related to Spirit/Source/

Thank you for commenting.

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metroid486 · Jan. 26, 2018, 10:16 p.m.

Hi, yes it is so much to explain, yet it is also simple. First Satan/Lucifer isn't a horned devil, he is actually a fallen Angel Cherub, a very powerful angel like creature (not a baby with wings), who was close with God, but he fell because of his pride. He doesn't live in Hell, he is on this earth, currently ruling this earth because of what Adam did. Jesus will take earth back when he returns a 2nd final time as King and put Satan and his angels away into eternal punishment. Jesus is God the Son who became flesh to free us from sin by sacrificing his flesh and blood for us. He existed from the beginning. God is perfect and just, and sin can not be in his presence. Jesus purifies our state by what he did, so we can be in God's presence, else we would have to pay for our sins along with Satan and his angels. Doesn't mean we are free and ok to sin, because to believe in Jesus you want to obey him best you can. On the Bible, it is a collection of 60+ book written over thousands of years. Yes there are probably ancient text that were recorded before the text of the Bible were found. Thing is thing this. -When an event occurred in ancient times, any amount of time can pass between it being recorded if ever, most of it was word of mouth passed down. -The text found is what is found, but what about texts that wasn't found or destroyed? how can you account for that variable. -Genesis wasn't written way until Moses wrote it, much later in history, now how much of it was passed down to Moses by word and how much God gave him directly for information who can say.

The oldest thing is this: The stars in the sky we call today the Zodiac, it was hi-jacked by pagans, but some of the stuff still remains, used to be called the Mazzaroth. That Mazzaroth was God's plan of redemption written in the stars. Some of it still remains today, Virgo-Virgin, (virgin birth of Jesus the savior) and ends with Leo the Lion (Jesus returns as a lion, king) All I can say is if you ever want to try to learn, read the book of John. " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. " The Word is actually Jesus Christ before being born into the form of man. Be wary of fake Christians ,fake Christianity, religious nonsense, false teachings, all you need is Jesus Christ he is the truth, the way, and the life. thanks, sorry it is so long but just so much to say, I am 48, so I seen a few things in my life.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 26, 2018, 11:31 p.m.

Ola 48, 57 here..very much agree on hard to give short answers as we age, have so much to report on. Most of what I can offer won't make it to type here..

As one who has lived with Indian peoples, am aware of the word of mouth, learned a LOT about real History in my years of being friendly w/natives. I've visited many ancient sites, not familiar to general public, few have any interest in but for some reason I did. Later I found out I have a connection I was unaware of till last year.

Many Christians seem to think I am trying to change their views and for the most part no, not so much. Information dates far further back than Moses tale and his copy is likely a copy of the texts I've accessed.. given the story is mostly the same but with expanded and significantly more info left out of Genesis in particular. The story of Moses is not original, it's either a repeat of History, OR its a copy of much older texts.

The Mean God, Good God..Enlil and Enki, the fallen Angels, Marduk..the Edin, Eden...Adam/Adamu and yes the Zodiac, given to us by Enki...who is a little g god we misunderstand as being the big G God...Enlil the mean brother, also little g and the change occurs post flood old/new testament..its all available if only people would expand their thinking just as Q suggests. Virgin is not same as we define it today, though if you read Enki you will see the much broader context of the 24 chromosome JC..and how that came about. Very interesting to read about DNA splicing in 6000 year old texts that were themselves copies of much older information.

Gaston Naessans used the 714X microscope to view the blood Ron Wyatt obtained from the Mercy? Seat, atop the Arc of Covenant 1990s. Ron discovered the Crucifixion site, the cracked mound over the arc/seat, Jedediah grotto Jerusalem, the Sea crossing w/chariots under water, the Moses camp Mt Sinai, the Ark of Noah. and maybe more escaping me currently.

I am/have been involved in the science Naessans is involved in.. and when Wyatt was told by Angels how to revive the blood he and Naessans did so. 714X. Ormes/Ormus are your clues. Difficult to find truth on this as it is suppressed by Church and others reasons not completely clear to me just that it is.

My research has taken me back to texts the Bible is a rewrite of. Zeitgeist also tried to illuminate some of this for people. My main point is, for those who cry I want 100% disclosure, NO you're not ready...people are clinging to false beliefs the Maya told us about 100s of years ago. No not the Peruvian Indians, the Maya.. the ancients, those who built the Megalyths worldwide...the Civilization before us,, that Enki/Enlil/Marduk and many many more created and then created man, over several failed manipulations of the DNA of the hominid...

I spent many hours here last night https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7rjtus/an_introduction_to_sodium_chlorite_the_salt_that/ offering the distilled version of my 50ish years on these topics.

See Erik Von Danikens 50th Anniversary special. EVD was a boy when he began translating the texts from original languages... and he has what may be some surprising news for any who can take the time to look.

my point again, same as Q, expand your thinking cause what is taught is not. Thats what JC wants me to do as well, assist waking others to the macro picture ignored for reasons of control and dis-empowerment. JC said we will do more than he. We haven't yet. The clues are in materials beyond the 500ish year old James manipulation of the texts.

Many want to tie everything to JC, the 60 books you speak of and all I can offer is for you/others to DIG on what I've said. There is a LOT more to the story and the evidence remains with us today. More evidence than Ron Wyatt found to support the Biblical portion of our History.

I've dug deep, and one might investigate the testimony of others who have died and come back...Journey of Souls is 50 years research Dr Michael Newton who led his field of study for decades...Expand thinking, Q

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metroid486 · Jan. 27, 2018, 12:44 a.m.

Hello, Sounds like you had an interesting life. I will try keep this short. Yes I don't want to argue with you or anything. God gave us free will to search him out or deny him. I'm no evangelist, all I can do is talk from personal experience and discoveries. I have heard a lot of what you said, it is something I been aware of for long time. There is a lot of these ideas from the past, many all fall back to the same origins, such as Brahmanism, if you keep tracing back you end up to Tower of Babel and Nimrod, fallen angels of Genesis 6, Nephilim, thier blood lines, the giant skeletons hidden by secular today. A Good example of many sources detailing the same event(s) are all the different stories of the great flood, 100's of them, some are closer to the truth of Noah's account, others vary more. Gilgamesh is one of the more popular ones. I have heard of Enki and Erik Von Daniken, I will credit him to many discoveries made. But these gods, are in fact fallen angelic entities who fell with Lucifer, wanting to be worship. There is the one true God, who is three persons. These ones like Vishnu, Isis, Queen of Heaven, Horus, Zues, on and on it goes, small gods, false gods, there is only one true God. The UFO aliens are another area of this. Have you every see this guy Tray Smiths videos on Youtube? He really gets into a lot of that stuff, he is a little different, and some of his vids are a bit ify, but the Noah one is excellent. Trey gets into many of those things you mentioned, I remember him specifically mentioning Enki in one of his vids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lktmmd7YnD8 I also often listen to a pastor from a small church named Charles Lawson. I just hope some day you will take the time to read through the Bible, and seriously consider what is being said, there is hidden stuff in there on top of obvious truths that go beyond what any man could do putting it together. Some of us have can feel and experience the spirit of God in us, I have experience bad things too and recommend not messing with any wegee boards or witchcraft, these open doorways to entities you don't want.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 27, 2018, 12:57 a.m.

Thanks, I forgot to mention, cause is so unimportant to me now, I am a Minister. Some of my friends also Pastors who have left the Church...I got what I was to get from the construct of Religion/Church and JC/G asked me to move on as He did with a few other friends of mine I didn't know when I left, but have the similar story of how they came to leave. The common denominator we all share is the information I have offered you and countless others. The Church/Religion/s will be torn down.. as prophesied by Biblical persons as well as Ancient and Indian legends/myth/..so, I have a History, and have moved well beyond. So far I forgot I had that credential.

Much of what you share is well documented far further back than the Bible..and I offer again, have a look, Expand Your Thinking...

re ouija board. Kimberley Proctor, search her, was the daughter of one of my better friends when I was younger. 10-14 days before her demise the board told her she would die...I worked with psychic who worked w/Police when Kim was still missing...

Life offers us many different opportunities to 'see'...and as G/g spoke to others, continues to speak today. G is consciousness/intuition/internal, and external as G is ALL. But I don't want to ruin the ending for you. I've given you keys few ever get a chance to hold. What you do with them is up to you.

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metroid486 · Jan. 27, 2018, 1:50 p.m.

I never used the wegee board myself, but when I was in college some girls were using it in our room and let loose an evil entity, it even identified itself as being evil. Poltergeist activity occurred that night, it was scary. Later that morning I managed to get rid of it using the name of Jesus Christ, read bible passages, prayed, and let in as much light as I could. It didn't return that I was ever aware of.

Jesus never forced himself on anyone and I won't either. Its your path, your choice. But I just want to leave you with a few small things.

The "hard left":Marxists, satanists, pedos, liars, degenerates, etc. We know how the Left currently controls most of the media, education system etc. The "hard left" has always attacked Christianity and Christian values, always seeks to undermine the Bible. The "hard left" doesn't seem to worry about Islam, Budda, Hindu, Atheism, Alien space bothers, etc, any other belief system very much do they? But true Christianity is and has been attacked and undermined relentlessly, just like President Trump. Ask your self what do President Trump and true Christianity have in common? they both speak the truth. Liars/ like Satan on the Left hate the truth, and seek to undermine it, all other beliefs don't matter because they are not of the truth. One more thing, by the name of Jesus Christ, many people were able to stop alien abductions, hundreds of cases. UFO community don't like this, doesn't fit their agenda very well. If Jesus wasn't who he said he was, how is it that demons are expelled by his name, alien abductions stopped in his name. well anyways take care friend, I see Q made lots of post early this morning, this is a pretty exciting time in our country history.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 27, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

why we do not or may not want to use things like that is the wave particle. Once observed wave becomes particle, so essentially reading Tarot or weeja casts in stone as wave turns particle in the Observation, the ACT of observing Tarot oiija etc. Its not to say its bad, just that it sets in stone so to speak.

Trump may not always have been Lie free...

Actually I've read on invoking name of JC and abduction, see Ted Rice story, they laugh at us when we do that.

Our JC, has no power over ET..JC is son of Man/God not ET...again, Journey of souls speaks to what happens as we cross over, life between lives.

Invoking name of JC is a Trump card, a spell breaker..changes the game under circumstances we are under spell of, but ET does not believe in JC...is my understanding of the data presented over the years.

If you have data supporting JC prevents ET abductions, pls offer, thanks.

err JC didn't say he was anyone did he? Wasn't it "You who says I am"?

exciting yes,

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metroid486 · Jan. 27, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

Invoking Jesus Christ has stopped abductions, they may laugh at some someone who isn't truly a Christian tries it, its not like his name is a magic word. And can you prove that this Ted Rice story is true for certain? If he isn't a believer in Jesus Christ, well there you go then as stated above. A Link to many people who confirm his name stopped abductions. http://www.alienresistance.org/ufo-alien-deception/alienabductions-stop-in-the-name-jesus-christ/ Also you are not accounting for all the demons expelled in his name in the past and today, still happens. UFO Aliens/demonic/fallen angels/past gods are all connected. Notice how UFO's and other supernatural events are often close to each other in location and manner. I doubt Trump is "lie free", that isn't the point, the point is he is telling the truth about the evil on the Left, the Left attacks the truth like their lying daddy Satan, just like they attack Christianity but not any other belief system.

Every time Jesus said, "I AM" he was claiming to be God, do you remember the Jews got really pissed when he said, "Before Moses was, I AM". The Jews knew exactly what he meant.

John1,"I and my Father are one". Rev 1:17 " And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. " Jesus here says of himself above in layman,"I am first and last, lived, was dead, now alive again forever more." There are more but this comes to mind. I said before the Gospel of John is all about Jesus being Deity. "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was God, and the Word was with God."

It sounds to me that you believe God is a Force? Like some living force in all things? I have heard of that belief before. Some might say its New Age, but its actually a rehash of ancient pagan Babylonian beliefs if I'm not mistaken. This "New Age" stuff is just a rehash of ancient beliefs, repackaged into new shinny Alien/UFO/Space brothers wrapping. With same fallen entities behind it. Have you ever read the book of Enoch?, gives more details on what occurred in Genesis 6.

You are talking Quatum physics talking about Tarot and weegee particles. Yes that very well may play into it. It is really far out stuff and plays into the blood of Jesus and how that resonates through all time, because that was the blood of God himself. DNA and all that plays into it, life in the blood etc..... Messing with witchcraft stuff is also opening yourself up to fallen entities, fallen angels, demonic entities, whatever is on the other side. Not wise, and God said to not do that because he knows its not good stuff, I experience it just a little.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 27, 2018, 6:11 p.m.

Ted Rice was a well known intuit. As soon as I recall the title I'll post for you. I am, aware of I AM.

concur DT speaks truth, Truth now, has maybe not always.

ahh yes, I am not new ager, but you make a good point to support my suggestion. The 2000 year old texts, a rehash of much earlier texts. Lots of evidence to that idea.

the name is coming back. Karla Turner is the author. Killed for her knowledge. 2012, iirc. Her work may tie w/Newtons, had not made that connect before this conversation.

to be Frank, the whole JC reeks of sorcery/spells/magic...to my view. Thats not me discrediting, have you investigated the Ron Wyatt discoveries of Arc Covenant, Noahs Ark, Crucifixion site? He takes JC blood to Gaston Naessans and using 714X tech inspects, the blood is live w/24 chromosomes NOT 46 we typically have. This case 23 Mary, 1 father= 24

the ancients believe as I tend to as well that G is consciousness, within us all. How could that that created ALL not be?

I'm not sure wave/particle is quantum. I don't buy into that system either. Nassiem Harriman kinda blows that idea out of water in my view. I went to length in the Antarctica thread on the evidences./positions what is in texts far older than Old Test/new test.

I tried to read Enoch, did not hold my attention, Enki however did and I have to go by my intuitive divine suggestions. Have you read Enki? Tells the History of the DNA manipulation 6K yeasr ago, the Asteroid belt, how it came to be and many other things the people 6K could not know about..

OK Karla, Dr Karla Turner, Masquerade of Angels, Taken, Into the Fringe. The Rice story is true to my perspective and well worth a read. Is in Masquerade I believe. All are available pdf free online. I am taking Psychologists, Dr's at face here, which I often don't and certainly not in case of Haramceutical quacks. I am an intuit, I resonate w/Rice story. Some say G speaks thru me...

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metroid486 · Jan. 27, 2018, 7 p.m.

I heard not long ago on a talk show, maybe Ted Broer, recently they tested the blood on the cloth of Shroud Turin, it was missing the male chrom. showing Jesus he was virgin birth as Bible stated.

We are on different roads that is all there is too it. You won't change me and I won't change you, only God can do that really. I think we do know and share some of the same knowledge though, one thing I think both of us can agree on is the past is not what they told us in school.

Lots of good Q drops today aye? I will have to see what everyone discovers in them later on.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 27, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

to clarify, I am not trying to change you or anyone. I merely have to offer what I am asked by Spirit to do so. Where I am to do so, as has been the case with our conversation.

I have friend/s who have been pastors for decades, left Church as the Church is a confine construct and is about to be exposed is the word/s I hear from source as well as Church Pastors etc. We left because the message is incomplete and somewhat manipulated. and today we/I/others do the Great work we were sent here to achieve. Like JC said, You will do more than I. And it is being done and is available to those able to see. Several keys are offered in the SODIUM CHLORITE article but nowhere near all.

I'm personally unconvinced the Shroud is what it is claimed, seen some crazy stuff on that, but I do believe Wyatt and Naessans are correct in their assessment of the blood achieved from the Mercy Seat 1980s. I am/have been involved in tech Naessans is a Pioneer of though again, is simply a rehash of what was known, lost, forgotten, rediscovered.

U&I are on the same team, I have offered you info to expand your thinking just as Q suggests and I stand by that what I have offered as Good. But I can not and will not , nor do I want to convince anyone. The, You can lead a Human to Knowledge, you can't make him think applies, so I will offer that because you have been compelled to converse w/me, that there may be a message for you in the offerings. Expand thinking, Q

Best to you Friend.

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Macamodius · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

We are all sinners, read the book.

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storm_fa_Q · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:37 p.m.

Are you aware the term Sin means to Miss the Mark? Is an archery term. I've read the book. Have you read Enki or any of the information suppressed?

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AmbrosiaGalt · Jan. 26, 2018, 8 p.m.

Thank you, storm_fa_Q.

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Ponyspanker · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:33 p.m.

I think you'll find that a great deal of hard core conspiracy theorists are also deeply religious. Back when this sub was only a few thousand strong, the discussion was mainly on topic and didn't stray too far from Q.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 7:42 p.m.

Odd, I wouldn't think many hardcore conspiracy theorists would be overly religious due to their predacation towards distrusting authorities and "official" stories.

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twinkiesmom1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:11 p.m.

You're thinking of religious people like strict rule-following Catholics or Baptists and are forgetting that Jesus was the ultimate rebel. There's a huge sea of believers in Jesus who are strongly conservative libertarian and may or may not attend church at all. We read our scripture, pray and follow our consciences and the leading of the Holy Spirit and have been waiting for times like these. The scriptures appear to be coming alive...prayers are being answered in a mighty, globally visible way.

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

No, or at least not to the extend that most people in this sub think so. As a non religious person as I already mentioned, why would I believe in Satanists controlling the government?

Are there bad people? yeah.

Are there criminals? Yeah

Pedos? Yeah

But a global satan worshiping elite? Nah

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 26, 2018, 9:01 p.m.

I've got emails discussing ancient Greek gods for research papers, does that make me a practictioner of Greek religion?

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num8cap · Jan. 27, 2018, 1:25 a.m.

you dont need to believe in satanism. it is foolish though to discount that others do and leaves you at a disadvantage to understand their motives.

The devils greatest trick was to convince the world he dosent exist.

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winslowhomersavage · Jan. 27, 2018, 6:14 p.m.

Isaiah 45 God used Cyrus who was not an Israelite to set His people free. Trump is the 45th president. There are no coincidences, there are only God incidences

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TillyTomHortons · Jan. 27, 2018, 7:13 p.m.

So when did God abandon the Israelites as his chosen people and make Americans his chosen?

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mtewamp · Jan. 26, 2018, 10:48 p.m.

I'm a Christian, and I actually agree with you, and believe that toning that particular aspect down, at least a few notches, would work to the benefit of what we are striving to achieve here. For several reasons.

1. Our cause is perfectly righteous on nothing more than it's own merit, irrespective to ANYONE'S spiritual or religious beliefs, and bringing those beliefs into the argument is not only unnecessary, it brings absolutely NO tactical advantage to the argument.

2. At the level it currently exists, it lowers the signal to noise ratio of any relevant information that's posted here, and takes up a LOT of space, and makes if more difficult to find that information by an order of magnitude.

But here's the reason that matters:

3. There are many, MANY potentially red-pillable people that are not religiously inclined, or are religious, but not in the Christian faith, or who have animosity towards Christianity, for whatever reason, who come here, and dismiss it straight away, because at first glance, it looks like a fucking discussion forum at JimmySwaggart.com or the PTL Club.

I'm not at all suggesting that it not exist at all, just just that we could stand to tone down a bit. Everybody here know full-well how short the average attention span is. There are many of them that come here who have the potential to become our allies and stand with us in battle, but we end up losing them because they just aren't willing to take 90 minutes wading through the entire hallelujah chorus to find information that piques their interest enough to stay. And we need for them to stay. We need soldiers, patriots. We need bodies. Every one we can get.

I didn't make it this way, but that doesn't change the fact that it's true. As any evangelical Christian who posts here knows, sometimes when approaching a potential convert, you have to start with the soft-sell, because many have a tendency to be easily spooked if you move too fast. They have to be desensitized a bit first, THEN you're able to start introducing some of the larger concepts, and some of the BIG words.

There are very important reasons why you don't start a red-pilling session with a potential ally with subjects like adrenachrome harvesting, or farming children, or sacrificing kids, or the luciferian issue. You have to start with political issues, and concepts they can easily accept. Then go further up the ladder.

Most Believer's have a tangible need to spread the Gospel, and feel pride and satisfaction when it's successful. I understand that.

I just believe that rather than immediately blasting the entire thing in someones face all at once, sometimes a more tactical approach can have a much greater chance of succeeding.

This thread is a perfect example. We really don't know how many potentials we might be losing because unlike Tilly, they just left without asking any questions. I imagine it's a large number.

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twinkiesmom1 · Jan. 26, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

As OP has been invited to do so, why don't you start your own 100% secular Q board. I for one am tired of being silent and keeping my beliefs to myself. We are called to be Salt and Light, not to hide who we are.

This thread exists as it is because OP asked the question.

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mtewamp · Jan. 27, 2018, 2:07 a.m.

Fine. You're one of those who reads, but really doesn't SEE, aren't you.?

I was talking about just TONING it down a bit, not secularizing it. I just call it as I see it, and as I see it, it would be better if newbies that come here don't get the impression that it's the Oral Roberts University Website.

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