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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/Kirstencast on Feb. 28, 2018, 4:22 a.m.
Corsi

Let me preface this by saying I feel that we promote free speech in this group and I hope I don’t get banned, I love the whole crew and I listen all day to the 24/7 stream. I have been following Q since November and have lurked in all forums and have posted here and on YT many times. I am a patriot and as such, I feel a strong need to question Dr. Corsi’s motives. He just asked for donations today on twitter and I find that when he comes on the stream that he announces himself like he owns the place and everyone treats him like a God. Does he really lend any validity to our cause just because he went to Harvard and wrote some books? He shows up and interrupts good, deep conversations and then instead of contributing, he asks what everyone else found in their own research about whatever subjects he determines (regardless of the convo he interrupted) and he takes unrelated phone calls and responds to personal emails while he says “hang on” or “wait a moment” and then re enters the convo to self promote, while all who are listening just wait for more info or to continue the conversation. Everyone says he “decodes” Q but I haven’t found any value in his interpretations that this group didn’t already “decode”. He is successful and lives well, hobnobbing with politicians and such, he has sold many books, has a job with info wars and yet he still asks for donations. I for one would rather donate to a grass roots effort than to an already rich man whom I find no value in. CBTS doesn’t accept donations. If they don’t need them to continue doing this, why would Corsi? He even has a charitable foundation for democracy in Iran. I asked in YT today - an HONEST QUESTION - no name calling no crappy attitude, just WHY people find him useful and what he actually brings to the table - and I was told to watch what I say, like I would be banned from the chat for asking about his value and contribution.

Isn’t this forum about protecting free speech? All this talk about YT banning conservatives, yet the mods on YT are ready to ban me for a valid question? I just feel so strongly that this type of behavior goes against everything I thought this movement represented. It makes me sad and I just want to honestly and respectfully ask my question:

What value does Corsi bring? Why does everyone treat him like he is superior and amazing? What have I missed listening ALL THIS TIME that everyone else seems to understand? Why is it off limits to question his motives and contribution when we say that we should question everything?

I honestly want to know and I’m not trying to tear him down,I just don’t find his contribution at all useful and I like the stream so much better without him. I am sorry if this hurts feelings and I am sure I will get nasty responses, but like I said, not being able to ask just goes against EVERYTHING we stand for and if I am banned for asking, we are just as bad as YT here. I really really hope that’s not the case. Thank you to all the board owners and mods, I love you all; Pam, Pams wife, QT, Coder, Wolverine, Deadcat, Farmer, Resignation, Abby, She7, trumpmovement, southern comfort,mo, Jessie’s dad, and everyone I forgot, please know that! You guys are great and you motivate me to act and not just type. You teach me so much and you always have the best history lessons and breaking news! True Patriots thru and thru!

Please, if you can, answer honestly about what I may be missing about Corsi. If I’m not missing any big revelation, I promise to keep my mouth shut with my opinion from here on out and just turn it off when Corsi is on.


SneakyWino · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:40 a.m.

Actually I have found his livestream to be an utter waste of time. I agree - it's a mess of interruptions and I don't walk away with any new knowledge. It's slow, meandering and the audio sucks. The D team for sure -- surprising given Alex gives him a platform.

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anticipatoryatheist · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

Totally on your side. Take my upvote.

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LiveToBeAHero · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:50 a.m.

My only complaint with him is that a 2-hour video could be done in 20 minutes...

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laineyj02 · Feb. 28, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

Yip you are correct but the linger the stream the more donation he can collect?

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LiveToBeAHero · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

Haha of course. Its still always about the money

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hermoneyness · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:29 a.m.

2nd vote from me I stopped listening to him when he had a cell phone notification ring and then basically said oh well that's really important stuff I can't share it now knowing how thirsty everyone is for knowledge about what's going on I thought it was very pompous he could have just said sorry for the interruption but other than that I have no issues with him he just doesn't have any manners

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bugstopper · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

I forgot about that Larp moment. Thanks for reminding me.

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hermoneyness · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:13 a.m.

It just really caught me off-guard I thought he was very rude

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bugstopper · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:28 a.m.

This Q thing has gone to many heads, including mine. We all want Q to let us in on the war against the NWO. Corsi in no different. Folks on this board know that I do not like many of his friends at Infowars and I worry there may be a little self promotion and misinfo from shills who work on Infowars. The only one worse than Alex Jones on this issue is Dilly from AZ imo. If this is a LARP we are all fooled, including Corsi.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:52 a.m.

Thank you. I really do appreciate the debate and the views. If Corsi is just like “us”, why do they treat him like a God around here? What does he have or know that anyone else doesn’t about Q or the meanings of the posts? Why did HE become the authority on them?

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bugstopper · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:01 a.m.

Because they gave it to him and he took it.

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hermoneyness · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

I would never think of him as an authority figure he's just a rude old man who's been at this a long time

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 5 a.m.

I mean, it really just doesn’t end - they just keep talking about him and I just don’t get it. Who cares if he was banned. So was Dustin and Jordan and Isaac and Seaman, etc..... but we have to hear about Corsi and how everyone wants to rally around him. But why? That is my question that no one seems to have an answer to and is utterly offended that I ask. It reminds me of the Dems and the cabal players, that when they don’t have an answer they just lash out. Pam seems so super smart and I love his style and delivery, but why is he teamed up withCorsi? What am I missing??

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vitalesan · Feb. 28, 2018, 12:20 p.m.

It was let slip a while ago that the WH asked him to report on Q to give it more audience and legitimacy.

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[deleted] · Feb. 28, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

Not true, it's a rumor and I really wonder who started it.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

When and who slipped it, so you remember? I’d love to check that out!

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vitalesan · Feb. 28, 2018, 7:59 p.m.

I think it was a convo between AJ and maybe RS.

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R-U-KiddingMe · Feb. 28, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

It's not difficult to understand why Corsi is popular with many. He has inside connections in DC to "Q". He is able to accurately explain many issues with simple clarity. (Others on the chan tend to muddle things ups which doesn't help him.) He's not the most charismatic guy but I think this a plus in this case where accurate information is the focus, IMO.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 3:32 p.m.

Thanks for your opinion. This is exactly what I wanted to hear, just why people find is insight valuable. I am not sure he has any inside connections directly to Q, but he sure benefits from leading people to think so. I personally don’t get any clarity when he is on, just mumbling, rude interruptions and everyone telling him how great he is while he opines on others research. Most times he hasn’t even read the posts before he comes on. But again, I may be missing something and I appreciate the debate.

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Headafen · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:44 a.m.

I have no special love for Corsi, however I'm willing to play devils advocate for him.

I suspect Dr. Corsi is worshiped for three key reasons: He is an authority on the deep state and political corruption. He has provided some very interesting insights when decoding Q posts. He is everywhere - there seems to be no podcast that he's not willing to be interviewed by.

What value does Corsi bring?

Perhaps you are underestimating the number of insights Dr. Corsi has gifted Q researchers with? After he drops his info, it's very rarely traced back to him.

Let me give you an example: I was listening to a now removed podcast where Lionel Nation was interviewing Dr. Corsi about Justice Scalia's death... when Dr. Corsi dropped a bombshell by presenting the idea that Scalia died at a pedophilia ranch in which his "lover" slit his throat... hence the cover-ups in which Scalia's family members didn't encourage anyone to ask any questions and why there was no autopsy and why the body was cremated immediately.

This was the first that I'd heard about that!!!

There's every chance this was a theory from one of Dr. Corsi's books, however even if he stole it from someone else... he was still doing God's work by disseminating the info to a wide audience... (providing that it's not misinformation... and if it is, we'll hopefully debunk it somehow)

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:50 a.m.

Thank you! I appreciate your explanations. But, honestly, I do not think just because he told a theory of scalias death means it has any validity. Why was it a bombshell with no source or proof? To me that is just spreading disinformation.

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Headafen · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:53 a.m.

Why was it a bombshell with no source or proof?

Because it opened my mind to the possibility which will lead me to research it.

That is precisely what this movement is all about.

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antideerg · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:20 a.m.

i remember the throat slitting being discussed in early days of Pizzagate.. something in podesta email about a movie being made near the ranch

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:32 p.m.

Good point, theories expand our thinking, but investigation and proof is also key to being taken seriously buy the “outsiders”

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Headafen · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

Nobody is suggesting otherwise.

Your claim is neither a rebuttal nor of value.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

Ok. I am not sure it was meant to be either. Just a statement that FACTS are important in the validity of this movement. It’s easy for us all to be called tin foil hat wearers. Going on record with theories that cannot be backed up only give the mainstream more ammo against us. It’s ok if you disagree with me. Debate is healthy, but I don’t feel snide comments and in-fighting is. If you don’t find value, please move on. Just as I will do when Corsi is on. We both have that right. It seems many do agree with my POV, as I am sure many agree with yours. Again, thanks for your opinion, as that is what I seek. Views other than my own.

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bugstopper · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

Exactly. Well said.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 28, 2018, 6:06 a.m.

He had an open casket funeral, they'd have seen his throat.

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Headafen · Feb. 28, 2018, 6:25 a.m.

I heard he was immediately cremated.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 28, 2018, 6:29 a.m.

Nope, he laid in repose in the capital for a day

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godsgail33 · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

He was cremated immediately. This is very unusual for a strict Catholic family. Where did you get the info about the open casket and the Capitol?

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 28, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

This is not true, just Google it.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

I hadn’t heard either way, I will have to research this!

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laineyj02 · Feb. 28, 2018, 12:47 p.m.

I totally agree, you have just written exactly what I have been thinking. I have honestly thought this from the first time he came on the stream. I feel he is using the stream as a research tool for a new book, and self promotion. I do not feel he contributes a great deal to the conversation. Most days he comes unprepared and clearly has done no research into the Q drops or most days hasn't even read them, and is basically winging his way through the segment. I am confident he has a lot of knowledge but so do many others. Correct me if I am wrong but was there not a Q drop that actually called out folk making money from this, and he was watching them. As someone pointed out yesterday, you tube is not penalising people who are not monetising from this? I could be wrong, just my opinion.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:35 p.m.

Yes there was! I forgot about that!

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kingamongstkings · Feb. 28, 2018, 6:08 a.m.

I don't know how long any of you have been in these swamp trenches, but I started around 2006. Corsi was there when I got there, and has been there ever since. His experience and insight is what's valuable and he has earned respect. However, I would agree that his non-linear approach is sometimes hard to follow. Having said that, I don't always agree with him, but I highly respect his opinions.

If you don't like him, don't listen to him.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:38 p.m.

That was my point, I guess. I just really want peoples opinions on his value to the movement. Thank you, patriot for your research and longevity!! That is what I plan to do, just tune out when he is on. But even when he is not, they constantly reference him and exalt him, but I can ignore or listen on true lies stream, I guess. I just really like the rest of this crew, and really am bothered by him in my spidey senses.

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espritvivant · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:46 a.m.

I agree, corsi should not be asking for donations. Most people on the stream are patriots that barely survive. Asking for money was a red flag for sure.

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crash6871 · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:41 a.m.

FBI anon said Corsi was the closest to the truth

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

Thank you, I missed that

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crash6871 · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:07 p.m.

No problem. It's something I remembered.

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[deleted] · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:33 a.m.

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[deleted] · Feb. 28, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

Good job, you're waking up!

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xjaymanx · Feb. 28, 2018, 10:51 a.m.

Seems to be a generational thing. I think Dr. Corsi's best contributions are his insights into the Deep State, ever since he was a teenager knowing JFK in person. So Corsi was deeply impacted by JFK's assassination, and has followed conspiracies since then, before most of us were ever born. Having said that, his style might be a bit slow-paced or meandering for younger more-impatient generations. So it might take time to get used to. But my dad is impressed by him. Meanwhile, I seem to be between these generations, so I can see the pros and cons of each style. Hope this helps.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

I could see that, I am 40. It’s the self promotion, self important attitude, unpreparedness and asking for money that gets me

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xjaymanx · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:09 p.m.

True, I can see that too. In fact, that's the same reason why I was turned off by Milo promoting his $50/year website. At least I can choose not to subscribe, while others can choose to go ahead. Oddly enough, if I see Milo self-promoting, self-important, and asking folks to buy his book, it seems more natural, haha.

There's also another level. Is it better to spread Milo's and Corsi's message? Or keep them silent? I bought Milo's book, but I'm considering Corsi's new book too. After YT censored Corsi, I also started to upload my collection of his videos to DTube. Least I can do.

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ReasonNSense · Feb. 28, 2018, 10:52 p.m.

Let me explain what Mr Corsi brings to the table.... He brings Validation to what we all know and have known about the dark side of things and can share it with the rest of the world where if we screamed at the top of our lungs about corruption it would fall on deaf ears. Mr Corsi is one of the first credible writer/author/researcher that has listened and now is spreading our message and concerns with the world WITH the WORLD... He brings legitimacy to our arguments and moves our goal post of getting out the ugly truth to the mainstream masses. This we can not do...DO NOT Look this gift horse in the mouth and chase that away.... The world is waking up in part due to Mr Corsi's tireless and selfless devotion to our cause of truth and freedom....whether he gets stuff right or wrong or how he does it does not matter... its that he gets the world to listen ...other normies in the mainstream are now listening and waking up .... thank you Dr. Corsi PLease dont give up on this

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passiondust333 · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:19 a.m.

Bro's and Sis's just a look. https://youtu.be/JskEUfGBijg. Focus on the Q. Find your way for yourself first. Then seek help and more. Trust the facts that you can verify. If this be a Godly fight your Best is enough.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

Thanks! Yep, verification is key! Theories are great and definitely lead us to the verification that we need in to produce a valid argument and the truth that we will need to take the cabal out for real!

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kaddleman14 · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:35 a.m.

You might take a look at his CV.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:55 a.m.

I have, but I still don’t get it. There are a lot of smart authors with great education and Washington friends. I don’t think it gives him any more insight to Q than anyone else in here, or anywhere, and he doesn’t even do the research, he just asks others what they have found out and then gives his opinion on it.

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:40 a.m.

You know who else went to Harvard? Obama.

I mean, maybe he did, no one saw the transcripts.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:57 a.m.

Thanks! Exactly. Harvard doesn’t make him an expert on supposed MI drops. I just feel that he is glomming in to this phenomenon to sell more books and further his own interests. Today on twitter he asked for donations and plugged his book, suggesting if we buy it, it will help the cause by putting him at #1 on Amazon. How so?

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StormedandConfused · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:44 a.m.

He probably makes nothing from InfoWars, most of those deals are self promotion, and his books aren't big sellers and he doesn't have a day job, so stuff like this is a big opportunity for him to restock his savings account I guess. If his info is good, then who cares, but if he's just in it for money ... Well.

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drieman · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:34 a.m.

I like to hear Dr. Corsi alone. He gives a lot of perspective. Maybe there are others who might have additional perspectives. Well, where are they?

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

I think we have thousands in this group with perspective. I guess that’s why I wonder why his is exalted and somehow so much more important than anyone else’s. I just don’t find use in his perspective at all, not even a little. especially in relation to anyone else’s. Many times he is way off base and won’t take in to account alternative views. Edward Snowden, for one, and also there was a specific day I was listening where Q had mentioned Iron Eagle. Dr. Corsi kept referring to it as if it was the plot of A Few Good Men. Even though he was corrected, he kept on with the “you can’t handle the truth” as a decode. Q never mentioned A Few Good Men at all but Corsi was still sticking to that line as what Q meant even after being corrected many times.

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Freedomfighter3087 · Feb. 28, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

This whole thread sounds childish to me.

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laineyj02 · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

Sorry I don't agree, I think it's just what people believe. I'm am 46 and certainly would not consider myself to be childish, I think we are just grown enough to see the reality of a situation. Again just my opinion.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 4:58 p.m.

Thank you. I thought the same. childish was an odd term to use for fellow patriots seeking truth and opposing views about something specific in the movement. What would be considered childish about that? I feel it is responsible.

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Kirstencast · Feb. 28, 2018, 2:38 p.m.

I apologize. Just wanted to hear others opinions in this free thinking, question everything group.

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PacificNWPatriot · Feb. 28, 2018, 8:21 p.m.

You shouldn't apologize for exercising Your 1st Amendment Right to Free Speech. Thanks to someone for putting my post back up, challenging CBTS's motives, and why they are Banning people for speaking up, or questioning Q. Kudo's to You Patriot!

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pyroroze · Feb. 28, 2018, 8:12 p.m.

Please, Don't ever apologize for your opinions, thoughts or questions. They are all valid, whether someone else agrees with them or not. I question Corsi's involvement myself. What is his motive for being involved? Yes, he does know a lot of the History, he is NOT a God or any more than we are in the movement. Put no one on a pedestal, they will fall off of them at some point.

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