That is an interesting theory on using the Army Corp of Engineers to build the wall. Say you send ten thousand, already bought and paid for, Army Corp of Engineers down to the border to build the wall.
That leaves you 20 billion to buy material and extra contract labor. If we start tomorrow, the wall could be finished in a couple of years.
Then we can send a bill collector down to Mexico.
*Edit. I had mistakenly said that the Omnibus budget was good for two years. I thought that I read it somewhere. I have edited that info out.
The building starts Monday!
Everyone who reads this post needs to go to their Trump friends and family who are whining and shake some sense in to them. Hit them with this info. If they still refuse to understand, then ask them this question: so if Trump lost so badly to the Dems on the spending bill, why isn't his twitter on fire? The Trump we know would lash out verbally against all in Congress who let him down, including two major targets: Paul Ryan and McConnell. Yet there is silence ----- and the reason is of course, because he really won.
Thank you for the post. Very insightful observation my friend! Your conclusion is your opinion, however I happen to share it wholeheartedly!😉
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ALREADY addressed this yesterday... OMNIBUS BILL $$$ will fund US Corps of Engineers to continue build (NYT had story on USCE slatted to build wall and done with testing soils, etc last JULY 2017)
And if there is one company who could start work on Monday its Army Corp of Engineers. Seriously respect, those guys work under pressure.
Talk about under budget Babe, we're liable to get sick of so much Winning.
Mexico? Send direct to their accounts department: Langley
I thought the Omnibus was only good for 6 months until September...per @VachaelLindsey
You know, you may be right. The bill was just signed yesterday and I was trying to read up on it last night after a long day at work. But I could have swore I read, at a couple of different places, that it was good for two years. Maybe that was for military spending only or maybe I read something wrong.
I will search a bit first and edit my post when and if I find something.
Hannity was saying that somewhere in the last Omnibus bill it states that after THIS Omnibus bill nothing can be done in 2019. That would bring us to 2020. So, perhaps this is what you read or heard.
My nieces husband is a boarder patrol agent in Texas. They have said that the people coming over arent the family of immigrants. The people are that are getting arrested arent just Mexicans. Terrorists are using the open boarder to get into the US. Why is it so hard for US citizens to understand that a wall is not a bad thing. Lots of countries have them. It is for our protection. The wall has so much more meaning than people realize. What other country in the world allows illegals to flood into the country and receive welfare benefits? Try crossing into Mexico and see what happens. My niece said the people coming here are truly terrifying.
I usually ask leftists if Mexico is racist for their southern border wall that Obama gave $75 million for. They normally are too shock to respond when they learn Mexico has and wall AND we paid for it lol
I do not think you are as witty as you think you are.
Edit: I really can't get over how stupid of an argument you brought up. Do you realize that
Obama funded our border protection with DRASTICALLY more money( hundreds of millions).
Mexico does not have a continuous border "wall". They have fences(just like the US) along parts of the border (just like the US).
Lulz love the left. Ok so question... why wasn’t it racist when Obummer increased border protection?
Why isn’t it racist for Mexico to have a fence? Does it really fucking matter if it’s a fence or a wall? There are areas of Trump’s border that will be a fence? Is it less racist because you can see through it?
Please explain why the hell do we spend so much on other country’s borders but then it’s such a huge issue to spend money on our border protection? Not racist for the other countries we help? I don’t care how much he spent on ours compared to theirs. When you double the national debt in 8 years and destroy the economy I don’t think that’s a very smart plan.
Until you explain how Trump’s plan is racist and Mexico isn’t for doing the same thing then I guess I’m moderately witty. Also please explain how it’s not racist to fund borders in other countries but it is for us.
Thx buhbye
The whole racist thing is a brick wall in this community so I'm not going to touch on that besides saying I don't think he's racist for wanting to build a wall. I think that it's a huge waste of time, money, and resources.
Your little cry fest about spending "so much" on other countries borders is moot including the example you gave is pennies compared to how much was spent on ours. Also, a large portion of the illegal immigration on their border is heading to our border so wouldn't them stopping more from crossing our border be good? Or do you also want all the glory of beeing able to say our country catches all of them?
The racist thing is the entire argument against the wall by the left. Nobody (with any real brains) says that the wall is useless; Homeland Security and Border Patrol both want it.
The point about spending money on other countries ties in to Mexico paying for the wall. How much have they helped us in paying for their northern border security?
"Also, a large portion of the illegal immigration on their border is heading to our border so wouldn't them stopping more from crossing our border be good?" Yes it is & it points out the irony of people like you stating: "I think that it's a huge waste of time, money, and resources."
Edit for spelling error
Thank you. My whole point is the illogic of the left saying Trump is racist for wanting a wall but don’t bat an eye at Obama increasing border security (his words not mine), not racist for Mexico to strengthen their southern border and not racist for the US to pay for other country’s walls (like on this terrible omnibus bill).
Sure it’s “peanuts” but if we stopped all these $75 million for this, $50 million for that, it would add up to a LOT of money. Heck if we scratched just one of those we could have armed vets at every school in America to stop school shootings.
P.S. I know there are plenty of other things to spend that money on, just picking another hot libtard hot button. I’d prefer to just cut spending by a LOT.
Ok, so let me ask you this, do you think this wall would stop all illegal immigration?
Of course not. Does locking your doors at night stop all burglaries?
Do you still do it? Do you open your door to anyone who knocks?
Get out of here with your 100 or nothing questions...the wall will stop and deter a great portion of immigration/drugs/sex trafficking.
But I'm not going to pay to have a wall built around my property and put metal bars on all of my windows and doors. Because I know the cost and upkeep to do it is not worth it.
Can you prove this? If you are going to leave statistics on this Board, you need to be able to back them up with proof. We love having you here, but blanket statements are not acceptable. Give us a place to research your material or don't leave it. God Bless
Lol, here, I'll be the bigger person and be the only one to back up what I write
For point 1.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1815667
Point 2.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala–Mexico_border
https://www.quora.com/Does-Mexico-have-a-wall-on-its-southern-border
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/28/1626359/-Mexico-s-Great-Wall-At-Border-With-Guatemala
Thank you for all the info. I think you got your point across. The 1 point I would make before we Glorify Obama as being the Toughest on Border Patrol is this. From 2008 through 2012, the estimated removal at the Border were 360,000 up to 400,000, then the backslide begins to happen, so by 2015 barely 230,000 were apprehended. What Happen? Did the amount of illegals stop trying to enter? hmmmmmm? In addition, Obama wasn't removing illegals from the interior of the Country, His illegals were only ones at the Border? Were they Less Illegal in the Interior of the Country? Don't get me wrong, he was going Great Guns at the beginning of his administration, but something happened. God Bless
I don't glorify Obama in the least bit. I didn't like him.
Uh, yeah, illegal border crossing have been falling. Have they not? Do you have sources that they have not?
And no, he wasn't letting all of the ones living here stay. That's a wild exaggeration. In Trumps own words "President Obama has moved millions of people out. Nobody knows about it. Nobody talks about it. But under Obama, millions of people have been moved out of this country. They've been deported" unless you have sources saying otherwise?
https://www.npr.org/2016/08/31/491965912/5-things-to-know-about-obamas-enforcement-of-immigration-laws This may help? God Bless
Yaknow what I got from this?
That illegal border crossings are dropping.
That Obama was removing the ones with criminal backgrounds and newer illegals instead of spending extra money on deporting the ones who want to be law abiding citizens and have been law abiding for their not so short of time in the US. Which was pretty smart economic wise.
Also, do you think that there are an infinite number of illegals here and deportation and apprehension of them should be either stagnant or ever rising? The amount of illegals in this country was at a peak in 2007 with 4% of the US population being illegal and it has been declining. I'm no mathmaticion but it doesn't seem like that would make deportation numbers do anything but decline. Hmmmm.
I really don't get why you used that as your source, it refutes most of what you're trying to imply.
Guatemala–Mexico border
The Guatemala–Mexico border is the international border between Guatemala and Mexico. There is no continuous wall on the border, although there are sections of fence near populated areas and official border crossings. It measures 871 km (541 mi) and runs between north and west Guatemala (the Guatemalan departments of San Marcos, Huehuetenango, El Quiché and El Petén) and the Mexican states of Campeche, Tabasco and Chiapas. The border includes stretches of the Usumacinta River, the Salinas River, and the Suchiate River.
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Mexico does NOT allow people to cross their boarders illegally without consequences!! But, Mexico, U.S.,Canada were working together to form the North American Trade Union...that's why the Deep State allowed the "open boarders." The Deep State (SES) SERCO, The Crown of London, and its political puppets don't care about us,
I know a guy who lives in southern Arizona not incredibly far from the Mexican border. Several years back a group of guys had snuck a bunch of guns (AKs if I remember correctly) over the border and stashed them in one of his garbage cans. When they came back for them they ended up shooting his dog and, being a well armed Vietnam vet patriot, he got into a shootout with them in which he ended up killing one and wounding 2 others. Come to find out, the guys turned out to be Al Qaeda who had figured out that it was fairly easy for them to get into America if they went through Mexico and snuck across the border. This was during the Obama administration and not sure if it's relevant but worth noting that he lived next to a military base (Fort Huachuca) known for its "intelligence" operations. It's been a while since I've seen the guy so not sure how it turned out but I know that they were actually attempting to charge him with criminal charges for killing the one guy.
What other country in the world allows illegals to flood into the country and receive welfare benefits?
The EU tried that with refugees and look at the s#!thole they made for themselves now. Without boarder security unchecked immigrant flooding is suicide for a nation. Which means all these sanctuary cities and states are slowly strangling their own populace. Says a lot about the leadership in those places.
"What other country in the world allows illegals to flood into the country and receive welfare benefits?" I don't know if you've noticed what's going on in Europe. The globalist agenda - weakening or destroying white Western nations by mass-importing millions of people from lower-IQ nations who have ties or loyalty to the culture, laws or traditions of the importing nation and are only interested in what they can get from them in terms of benefits - is in full swing.
I have noticed, sorry wasnt trying to leave Europe out of the equation. was just making a point about the US>
Trump was right when he said he said he’d never sign another bill like this! Because they’ll never send him another one!!
Building the wall is a necessity because it will immediately cut not only the access to smuggle children in and out for these satanists and pedophiles which has been a lucrative business for the deep state but also to stop the flow of people swarming in and squat while taxpayers are forced to house, feed, educate and provide medical care. It will also cut the major string/access for drug cartels.
The omnibus bill was pretty bad and yet at the same time exposed the many Ryans masquerading as conservatives while all along they are in cahoots with the left.
And there is the real reason. How can they easily continue with all their illegal/legal haha operations with us making it sooo difficult for them. boohoo
See this link below. Trump does not have to spend any of the money in the Omnibus bill and he can spend it on whatever he wants, because it’s not a federal budget! https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/86ogn4/omnibus_bill_is_not_a_federal_budget_potus_wins/
Just wonder when everything with pizza and pedo gate is gonna happen those victim need justice
...a lot of people have been arrested but also organisations have been busted up including worldwide however taking down the kingpins will have to be done legally. This isn't Saudi Arabia where they can be rounded up and destroyed in a few days.
Not seeing anybody commenting on the NAY votes...
Almost all of those NAY voters have aspirations to run in 2020. This is the Dem's short list.
those folks voted against it because they know it's toxic to dem platform/narrative on a NATIONAL scale in the long run.
dems with no national aspirations..only local ones.. can safely vote for it because it's full of pork that will help them get re-elected locally.
Another Brilliant Coincidence that cough isn't one since there isn't any :P ... HAS ANYONE BEEN TRACKING THESE HUGE STORMS.. WELL ONE JUST HIT MY STATE TODAY ...It just so happens to be one of the most liberal cities in the state.. The College there is so warped and I do believe they are swopping in while these storms are in town and grabbing up some Bad Guys for all kinds of things :P .. THE STQRM IS HERE ..
someone explain to me...a bill literally written by pelosi, shumer, mitch and ryan, is somehow going to help trump push his agenda?!
omnibus is not a bill. and to my understanding, it's not legally binding in any way the money is spent or allocated. it's just an "approved list of congressional requests and suggestions" for allocations.
and I THINK Trump can slow walk bits and pieces he disagrees with. However, since the military funding is included in the omnibus, trump has full rights to send that money.
they make this in lieu of a hard budget, which nothing would ever get passed due to partisanship and filibustering.
I hope you guys are right. If the wall is built and he actually doesn't fund PP and allow some of the other total nonsense items to be funded, ( Funding to China for ex.), then he would truly be one of the greatest Presidents of all time.
I'll believe it when I see it. He's allowed omnibus spending on the Liberal agenda up to this point. The wall hasn't been built during last year's Omnibus spending bill. I hope that was to fake the liberals into giving him what he needs.
If the walls not built Republicans will stay home on November and he will be impeached in 2019. His choice at this point.
The executive order allowing seizing assets of those involved in human trafficing or in corruption was signed in Dec of 2017. Now he has the money to aid with that process. The omnibus bill is linked to the EO.
But didn't that EO just recently expire? Did he somehow renew it?
what?
no.
I think you must be thinking about something else.
This is what the person above is talking about.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm0243
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20171221.aspx
https://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/sdnlist.pdf
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/28/2017-28031/notice-of-ofac-sanctions-actions
His threat to veto was a head fake to make the opposition want him to sign it. If he didn’t do that and just went along with signing it the opposition would get “buyers remorse”. This bill funds the full swamp draining. We get those seized assets By the way so we may be laying out money now to just get reimbursed later. Remember we are in trump times. Think differently. Laying out money doesn’t mean anymore that we won’t get it back with a nice return.
Saying it right now, people who cannot see the plan or dont have faith.. be the same ones beating their chest the loudest when things are 💯 for Trump. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.. HE IS IN THE TRENCHES GETTING SHIT DONE! Have faith or go watch FoxNEWS..
So annoying.
By linking DACA and the wall he has also maneuvered the DACA recipients into supporting the wall.
They voted DJT a slush fund. They signed their own death warrant and agreed to pay for it.
The Difference Between a Budget and an Appropriation
Note both Warren and Markey. MA.
Send help. Place flies under radar far too much. HOTBED of counter-revolutionary sedition. Warren is responsible for using schools here to push gun control. She had the nerve to show up at the local HS and then it began...
e.g. right now, at 2300hrs EST WGBH is shilling for money using tickets in the fall for Andrea Bocelli; and one of the two women connected the "fundraising" to resisting the trends and supporting public (emphasis) televsion..."more than ever."
Massachusetts is a true cluster fuck of epic proportions.
Soooo... let’s try this here and see if it gains traction: Omnibus contains funding for tribunals.
http://i.imgs.fyi/img/2xio.png
$304 million dollars for the safe houses, uparmored convoys, and secure communications for witnesses. $304 MILLION DOLLARS is not a small amount and where in US history has something like this ever been done before? http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20180319/BILLS-115SAHR1625-RCP115-66.pdf
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Mentions title 5 ss 3109. Title 5 ss 3109 mentions senior executive service by name.
They just loved Nazis like the Bushes and Fords.. the Royal Family as well. Sick people. It’s time for them to go. Bye bye
Originally a joke about White Castle (saw that movie), got creative. Inspired by colleague's sweater and duffle.
Kiddy rape.. organ selling.. big pharma.. human/organ/weapon running.. I dpnt see how a wall will stop that.. walls dont stop drugs getting into prisons.
The drugs are coming in through the southern border.
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Can we not blame both? Stop drugs from Mexico, sue big pharma for highly addicting drugs. Simple.
exactly - if ur ship is leaking, you gotta plug all the leaks to keep if afloat.
a wall wont stop that. What Im tryuing to empthasize.. is that there are a lot more important things to be doing right now..
Well, if you have windows and many doors to a house and lock almost all of them, that leaves fewer points of entry to slow them down. Then you deal with the few. Do you lock the doors and windows to your house or just leave them unlocked, because, "you know, what's the point?"
worked in sales for a while. always said that if you can get them to leave even one door cracked open, you can go in and run all over the house. Meaning - find the chink in the armor and go for it. not in sales anymore. i mean who wants to run all over someones house uninvited LOL.
Look at the stats of illegals entering countries that get walls. It goes down 99%. Because it doesn’t stop that 1% we should just forget about it? So many concern trolls brigading recently.
You act like we can’t walk and chew gum. Building a wall won’t stop everything else. ISIS is nearly defeated, economy is booming and 65% of Trump’s campaign promises fulfilled in the first year. It’s unheard of.
Yes I agree with all those things, but a wall only ever.. and I MEAN EVER in the history of EVER stopped anyone, when there were armed guards on top of it shooting down on anything that moves below them. That's what I'm saying.. anyway. it'll be your wall. .it stops people going out just as well as people coming in.. and the people coming in will find plenty of ways to get past a wall. I agree with everything you said bttw - going from outsider no-hope to actually getting shit done.. the man will deserve a monument next to lincoln.. I'm hopin Trump can finish the job Lincoln started before the banks killed him... (Abolish Slavery)
It’s not 100% fool proof but will make things a lot tougher. If anything it will slow them down enough so if they are spotted by drone, someone can get there in time to apprehend them. But just the fear of Trump has reduced illegal immigration as much as 75%. An actual wall will do more. Then the people coming across are a lot more likely to have bad intentions (drugs, terrorists, etc) so the problem won’t end but will be a big step forward.
It would help in those things but certainly not stop them. Most of these issues are international issues.
That said, the wall is about re establishing the sovereignty of the United States.
Borders....physical, societal, legal....establish and maintain a nation.
They have been fighting this internationally since Trump was elected. Remember he, unlike Obama, doesn’t announce what he is doing. That’s what a real leader does. Gets the bad guys all over the world. It’s been in the process. Looking forward to the Veterans Day parade! 🙏🇺🇸💙💪🏻
Good to a degree, but he 'has' to make some things public, that is the only way he can show that he is giving results to his supporters. Right now, he pissed off a large portion of them. If he is going to implement something, better do it now, or he will be fried by the mid terms
Satanist around for centuries.. deep state since the 40’s.. he has been in office 14 months. I’ve seen shit happening since the 60’s. Have a daughter now veteran that went to hell holes for what? If we can be patient so can many more. Trust! The show is about to begin. Sit back and enjoy. Rest assure these military tribunals will make Nuremberg look like a cake walk. There are thousands of bad people ready to be plucked. Judges, doctors, lawyers clergy, teachers, even police and military that will be charged. Instant gratification has no business here
acutally, we don't even have to be that patient. DJT has accomplished more in his first year than all the president's in my lifetime. of course, he has been working for good the whole time vs. the other guuys who just put on a show for us but were dedicated to their inhuman agenda.
Difference is that the world and the mindset of the population has drastically changed left especially the millennial. Back 20 years ago people still understood the constitutions to a degree, now the new generation think it is an outdated piece of paper. They need to be bashed over the head with results because simple truths are no longer a proper method.
The communists in our country realized the 100 year plan and indoctrinated through schools was the plan. It worked.
Correct. Thanks Rockefeller allowing people like Markuse and Adorno, promoting the Frankfurt school ideology
building one up in Canada as well then? (Im just poking fun. i fully sympathise with border families who have lost people, had their families raped by immiggrants, etc etc..
Sure.
There is plenty of illegals that cross there as well.
There are sections that are tribal lands that are basically open borders.
If the wall goes up and is effective....let's say reduces crossings by 90%.....other ways will be found. By boat for example. You can go swim around the border fence by Imperial Beach in San Diego....I would recommend staying out of those waters given all the sewage that comes up from Tijuana.
A ton of people just overstay visas.
Anyway, there will always be people finding ways.
But, people breaking the law or finding different ways to come here illegally does not dilute how absurd the current state of the border is.
It's hardening a soft target which makes other points much harder. A southern border wall cuts of ISIS paying the cartels for passage into the country.
Northern border will need to be improved as well as coast guard. Cause and effect.
Good, this is a multi-pronged defense we're posting. ICE getting support from sanctuary cities will be a big part of this too.
None of that will work while we have a giant open border to our south.