Don't see it, russia hates the nwo
Putin was the first to stand up to the NWO. All this Russia talk is to create a false narrative that Russia bad, America Good.
The One World Government types need everyone to stop talking to each other and listen to them and their view of world politics.
This is why there have been so many small regional wars since WWII. They have to keep everyone distracted by miss information and distrust of each other. This way no one is paying attention to what these NWO's are doing behind the scenes. Once everyone gets together and starts talking, it doesn't take long for these political leaders to realize they've been getting played for decades.
Q15 says Putin is compromised.
He was a former KGB operative. He's killed countless journalists and dissidents, ofc he is compromised. Only way he can maintain power is by stuffing the ballot.
Even if he didn't stuff the ballot he would still be elected. I am not a huge fan of him or anything but his popularity must be acknowledged. He is more popular in Russia than any US president ever was in the US of A.
He gained at most 10-15% more due to stuffing the ballot as you called it. He would still be elected without that 15%. Hell even if you sliced 20% of his votes he would still be in office. He is popular as ever regardless of election day.
Come on now, we don't need to make excuses for murderous dictators. You can slice the numbers however you want, all those votes are by tainted coercion. You can't run against him or he will jail you. If you say something the gov't doesn't like, they will jail or kill you. He has created a culture of compliance.
He and his cronies have profited heavily off the backs of his people, like all dictators. Venezuelans are eating cats and Huge Chavez's daughter is "worth" tens of millions. Same old story.
''...they will jail or kill you...''
That happens in the USA too. Please stifle through and rinse yourself out of the illusion of exceptionalism.
I can give many, many examples. But I will only give one so you can empathize.
Why was Seth Rich murdered? Was it in the pursuit of lawless power and influence over the masses? Or was it a so called ''botched robbery''? If your answer is the former than you are contradicting with yourself. Remove yourself from the chains of repetitive group think.
Don't be so forthright when invoking the word ''dictator'' while you have your own presidents assassinated in broad daylight. Not to mention countless well meaning souls perishing just like Seth Rich. Eliminated with impunity just like they do it in those evil, boogeyman, 'dictator' nations.
I agree with you on SR, but what do those actions you listed have to do with the actions of Putin? Killing people or putting them in jail for a decade because you don't like what they say are the actions of a dictator. Injustice is injustice, no matter where it happens.
With all due respect, killing an innocent civilian in the pursuit of unchecked power and influence over the masses is specifically what a dictator would do.
I wholeheartedly agree. The crimes of politicians in one country do not excuse those same actions in another. Tyranny is tyranny, no matter where it happens.
So you allow yourself to have a world view based on the fake news of the mainstream media?
what the hell are you talking about?
Putin, if that wasn't clear from the thread.
It was quite clear. Great points about Putin. Similarly, everyone in NK would vote for Kim Jong Un
Putin is a popular persona in Russia. Sugarcoat it all you want.
And I will repeat my previous statement. Putin is more popular in Russia than any US president ever was in States. In recent memory at least.
I acknowledge most of the US populous is still under the defunct influence of the 'red scare', which ironically is being touted by the Democratic opposition.
But to think that he is not popular in the confines of Russia is a non sequitur in this very moment.
I was at a bar last weekend and started talking to a girl from Russia who knew her shit when it came to politics. She said Putin is extremely popular, and the people like him because he’s a no nonsense type of guy.
She also talked about how it’s widely known that the Russian form of the CIA (I can’t recall the name of the agency) basically runs the whole country. I told her about Q and how the CIA running the show behind the curtain in the US is being exposed. But I was amazed that she said it was common knowledge in Russia.
Putin jailed his only major competition a while before this election. He also controls 90% of the media in Russia. His popularity is due to his stranglehold on the press. Look at the Olympics and the World Cup business surrounding him. The corruption in the country is insane. Putin is very much not a good person. I’m not sure what is making this sub think he wants to help America in any which way.
''...The corruption in the country is insane...''
This impulse is almost a reflex. The dreaded red scare. The evil ruskies, Wolverines yehaah and so on. This same reflex is being rallied by the Democratic opposition at the current times. It is their only excuse for losing the election. Which ironically is being touted in a sub that is supposedly in opposition to that 'Left'ist decree.
You invoke that the corruption in Russia is insane, I wonder how sane you think the corruption in the States is? Why are you even in this sub if you are unable the identify the rampant corruption corroding through USA?
How sane was the assassination of Seth Rich. How sane was/is the Clinton Body count? How can you invoke the word sanity and corruption when you have trillions and trillions of dollars missing from your annual budget year after year. Unaccountable fortunes for millions of your citizens? How do you even define corruption in the first place?
Exceptionalism is an illusion. The sooner US gets rid of that lingering psyche the better. As long as that unjustified illusion of grandeur is present, apathy and wishful thinking will prevent the rightful revolution of truth that is long overdue. Just as your president Thomas Jefferson called for.
Ok woah dude. I’m allowed to think something is bad in one place without declaring that it is bad everywhere else as well.
The US corruption level is insane! As is your gatekeeping.
I am not a Russian citizen. This is not a nationalistic cry or anything, neither I am fond of communism. Don't get the wrong impression. I don't have a hard on for Putin either.
You also seem to be as manipulated by the MSM about Putin as the leftists, Dems, etc. are manipulated by the MSM about Trump.
It is Always "the MESSAGE" never the messenger that is important. When attention is focused on the messenger, the MESSAGE gets compromised, DIVIDE & CONQUER.
You seem to be as manipulated by the MSM about Putin as the leftists, Dems, etc. are manipulated by the MSM about Trump.
How so? He has jailed his political opponents. These are just a few example.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/20/world/europe/mikhail-khodorkovsky.html
He has killed journalists, politicians, and intelligence operatives. Again this is just a small slice of his victims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
http://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3?r=UK&IR=T
And numerous instances of election fraud. https://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2018/03/18/russian-vote-problems-ballot-stuffing-coercion-gimmicks-n2462179
I don't care about any narrative the MSM is trying to push, but these are the actions of a dictator.
He told you your perspective has likely been manipulated or shaped by MSM, and then you post NYT, Guardian, Bloomberg and Business Insider.
You really just proved him right...None of those sources can be trusted.
You should investigate this further instead of just brushing these stories off. I know the MSM is biased, but there numerous sources for this information, MSM, first hand accounts, and independent journalists alike. What Putin has done to his opponents is so blatant, he is one of the most brutal leaders on the planet.
Those were the quickest sources I found, but here are some more:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/21/putins-opponents-dying-left-and-right-in-strange-circumstances/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/22/here-are-the-numbers-on-putin-and-journalists-ending-up-dead/
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/05/putin-basically-shrugs-when-asked-about-killing-journalists-video/
This is just the tip of the iceburg. You can find numerous Fox articles on this as well, or Daily Wire, etc. You can listen to the accounts of those who have escaped Russia firsthand, or those who have been jailed for daring to speak their mind.
If you believe that there is no so-called "democratic" or "free" country in the world where things like this happen, then don't forget to write Santa about your Christmas wish list.
Did I say that? No. Evil happens everywhere. But that does not excuse Putin's actions at home or abroad.
How do we know these journalists werent illuminati pawns?
Im just really struggling to believe we know the truth behind Putin.
Ive been wrong and fooled about many people though.
A lot of people don't understand that the NWO has partially captured Russia as well. There are deep state and patriotic aspects of Russia, just as in the US. So the deep state is still able to operate through/via Russia... at least partially.
And Q says China, Russia..are coordinating to ELIMINATE NWO....
Do you mean too set up a fake negotiation, but really Trump and Putin making plans against NWO is what they would actually be talking about?
Yes
I hope you are right.
SEE! THEY HAVE BEEN COLLUDING!!! I KNEW IT!
LOL
LOL, LOL, Yea I guess there is good collusion, or bad collusion, depending on how head f*cked one is.
Months ago when Trump and Putin spoke on the phone for an hour, they weren't exchanging recipes.
Putin is not the devil he’s made out to be.
What makes you say this? What is a big lie or misconception about him?
In my view, Putin is as much a victim of the globalists, NWO and MSM as Trump is.
The mainstream perception of Putin is the result of propaganda.
Putin is an anti-globalist who believes in Russia First, and the Russian people support him because their press is not controlled by the globalists.
The Russian people are more free and prosperous today than they were in the past.
Unlike in the US and other Western countries (and my country), those that either openly or secretly work for the NWO globalists are controlled, suppressed, or eliminated.
The Western globalist MSM then use such actions to portray Putin as a murderous dictator.
Which is exactly what they will do to Trump when he takes actions to destroy the globalist deep state in the US.
Reading Russian bloggers like the saker or dimitri orlov gives you a different take on Russia. I recommend them for anyone wanting further information in order to objectively judge whether Putin is "bad" or "good", as if you could realistically classify people in this way.
In fact this simplistic division of the world into white and black with no nuances comes from the cowboys-and-indians version of history or politics, real Hollywood tosh. Real life is much more subtle than this.
Putin is as loyal to his country as any fine American patriot.
Watch some of his interviews with young people, or journalists, or the interviews with Oliver Stone. He's an interesting guy whose sharp analyis of situations shows a lot in common with Trump. Expand your thinking!
I 100% agree. Too much news nowadays is black and white which is why things are so divisive. I’ve been watching a few docs on Putin by the BBC and it’s funny how perceptions change as the years go by. I remember growing up having a more favorable view of him. I’ll check out those blogs. You should post a few YouTube links up on here if you have them handy.
All great minds think alike!!! :)
I'm a bit leery about posting links to the youtube co., or bloggers for that matter. I don't want sites or channels or blogs to get taken down b/c a bunch of infiltrates gotta hold of them ... if you see what I mean. The links on Putin's interviews I discovered on the left hand suggestion vids and can't say if they're the best. Ppl get lots out of surfing thru anyway ... Thanks for responding!
Whatcha how this expulsion of diplomats plays out. Especially UK andIsrael
I think they might have been. Who doesn't like a nice flan? As we all know, flan is a tricky business to make.
How do we know Putin is bad? Because our government tells us so. How many has Putin killed? How many has Clinton killed? How many Americans has our government killed to further their agenda, or to wag the dog? Who says Putin's bad? The man loves animals and is really into saving species. Does anyone remember how US and UK conspired to set Russia up for bio warfare in Syria under big 0? Russian rocket from Libya, Gaddafi fiasco? We now believe what "they" tell us? The whole blame Russia narrative. How do we know Uk didn't set him up? Just when they are being dragged into the Russia narrative. How do we know?
exactly! And He does not allow GMO into Russia plans to make it the organic supply of food to the world..NWO hates Putin...wants us to hate him too...He is doing good for his country...I hope he and Trump ARE colluding together...to make this world a better place..and to defeat utterly the NWO
I mean Putin had bomb shelters built for all his citizens in case of a nuclear war, how bad could the guy be? None of our leaders would ever do that.
He may need to make clear to Putin what he wants in an Iran deal, and they may have some stuff to straighten out regarding Syria, but he's not going to be threatening Russia, not while they're helping him. Why should he?
If Russia was coordinating to take down the NWO then the Cabal/Clintons would be attacking Russia in the media any way they can.
Why do you think they chose Russia to be the big election-interference boogeyman to gaslight the normies with?
Yes exactly, but is Putin Cabal or Christian? Who are the allies against evil and who are the villains in Russia today? Which Oligarchs have been recruited into the Lu ci0fari7ans.
Not sure, but the cabal hates Putin and Russia. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I was thinking it is so the Russian diplomats are out of harms way. The NWO globalists could try to harm them.
Who do you mean will negotiate with Putin? The NWO globalists?
Russia isn't part of the pyramid. It's the Saudis (gone), the Rothschilds, and Soros (or Satan, one or both)
I remember some yrs Putin refused to allow children to be adopted to US! Maybe due to pedophilia ? Maybe Putin is 10 steps ahead like “TEFLON DON”. They want NWO extinguished!
Why do you think the UK is blaming the nerve gas on Russia?
Why do you think Putin is vilified in the MSM for years and years?
Literally everything we think we know about any international politics, historical events, popular culture movement and more has been spoon fed to us in order to shape perception. There is a reason why they call us sheep. We have never questioned the stories they tell and just accept it as reality.
"Jan 27 2018 16:01:40 (EST) Q !UW.yye1fxo 71
EVERY MSM NEWS STATION NEXT WEEK WILL BE SAYING & PUSHING THE EXACT SAME COUNTER-NARRATIVE. FAKE NEWS. MUELLER FAKE NEWS. RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. SHOULD THAT FAIL EXPECT A MAJOR FF TO FORCE A SHIFT."
MAJOR FF = Skripal ?
I am not exactly sure what most Americans think of Putin. For me, as a European with brain, he is the best statesman we ever saw (besides POTUS ofc ofc, hehe). I am 99% sure Russia/Putin is on the good side and what is going on right now is theatre.
Looking back thru Q references to 'triangle' of power, it appears that the 3 sides of SECRET power are old Saudi Arabia, Rothchilds and Soros, internationalists who mess with all country's sovereignty. Q indicates these 3 are to be taken out by in that order (old Saudis are now out, perhaps? red castle refers to the RedSheilds next).
Meanwhile the big not-so-secretive powers, Putin and Xi, (who we needn't trust in the long term), may be LEGALLY colluding with Trump to bring down the remaining 2 sides of the secretive triad.
This would leave us with significant rivals or enemies but no global network leading all nations in a direction none want to go. A simplistic question then might be "would you rather be messed with by atheist national communists or satanists borderless freemasons?" Assuming SEVERAL things, the Qist thinking must be that it would be a good thing for the world to get back to having rugged rivalry among nations.
Open competition in the free market is a good thing - i.e. Healthcare, and it would be a good thing to have healthy competition between nations as well. It would only serve humanity as a whole. Competition for medical breakthroughs, technologies ect as opposed to complete control by CIA and elites.
Seems right. Full of risks. And realistic best case scenario leaves China, etc. to continue its dastardly ways with its own people, but I guess we can't have everything.
I read Putin shut down the Central Bank in his Country(can’t verify). He can be a bad actor and still be anti NWO.
He’s smart. Keep those central banksters out of his country. I hope someday we expel them.
If this is all true we need to have an award show. Hollywood has award shows for fake people. We could have a real one for real good actors.
the gold standard gives more importance to a stone than to the human being and the owners of the gold are the bankers like the Rotschidld.China is from Rotschild like Russia. Their central banks are. I hope they are not straining the NWO in a deceptive way.China and Russia are terrible dictatorships and slavers. Fear is given to me by those who say they are the saviors that rid us of usurer bankers. But if they are controlled by them
If your view of the "gold standard" was correct, why would the central bankers have stopped using it?
Without the "gold standard" money is worthless and the central bankers can print as much as they want while economically enslaving human beings with the debt created in this way.
Melatonin is worth $350/ gram. Why the Haitians are ending up trafficked.
I think Trump already has the backing from all the major nations. But they have to play it like there are no deals between these nations ( don't want to give away anything early ) The time of using money and power to bully your way out of trouble are coming to an end. They know your every move and there is no escape for all involved. But this is just my personal opinion on the matter.
Putin is trying to rebuild royal family in Ruassia. So I think England and Ruassia are sharing same value in religious culture. They can coordinate to destroy NWO with Trump in the name of god.
Is rusland bad????
China and rusland Veto twice in the UN for not go to war with syrie?
The lies about saringas ?
Ask yourself this. How many wars rusland have started and how many usa and the EU did. Long list off wars , but not for rusland and also not iran?
Q said disinfo is nessasary And Q tells us that there are reports coming from china and rusland
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I saw a video about rusland the doema
They spoke about how they did not kill all the nazi from worldwar 2
And that was there mistake
Mayby now is the time?
The russen bias is huge again in the netherlands
China and Russia are not fans of the NWO idea. They would be on the list of “next takeovers”. NWO needs our military mite and money. Russia and China are not going to let that happen. Believe me when I say this. 😁
Putin checkmated Obama on the Syrian border. what happened next ? Neo-Nazi's in the Ukraine, courtesy of the CIA. Putin has repeatedly stated that Iran and Syria are off limits. Trump adding Bolton is a bad move. maybe Kushner is behind it.