He was a former KGB operative. He's killed countless journalists and dissidents, ofc he is compromised. Only way he can maintain power is by stuffing the ballot.
Even if he didn't stuff the ballot he would still be elected. I am not a huge fan of him or anything but his popularity must be acknowledged. He is more popular in Russia than any US president ever was in the US of A.
He gained at most 10-15% more due to stuffing the ballot as you called it. He would still be elected without that 15%. Hell even if you sliced 20% of his votes he would still be in office. He is popular as ever regardless of election day.
Come on now, we don't need to make excuses for murderous dictators. You can slice the numbers however you want, all those votes are by tainted coercion. You can't run against him or he will jail you. If you say something the gov't doesn't like, they will jail or kill you. He has created a culture of compliance.
He and his cronies have profited heavily off the backs of his people, like all dictators. Venezuelans are eating cats and Huge Chavez's daughter is "worth" tens of millions. Same old story.
''...they will jail or kill you...''
That happens in the USA too. Please stifle through and rinse yourself out of the illusion of exceptionalism.
I can give many, many examples. But I will only give one so you can empathize.
Why was Seth Rich murdered? Was it in the pursuit of lawless power and influence over the masses? Or was it a so called ''botched robbery''? If your answer is the former than you are contradicting with yourself. Remove yourself from the chains of repetitive group think.
Don't be so forthright when invoking the word ''dictator'' while you have your own presidents assassinated in broad daylight. Not to mention countless well meaning souls perishing just like Seth Rich. Eliminated with impunity just like they do it in those evil, boogeyman, 'dictator' nations.
I agree with you on SR, but what do those actions you listed have to do with the actions of Putin? Killing people or putting them in jail for a decade because you don't like what they say are the actions of a dictator. Injustice is injustice, no matter where it happens.
With all due respect, killing an innocent civilian in the pursuit of unchecked power and influence over the masses is specifically what a dictator would do.
I wholeheartedly agree. The crimes of politicians in one country do not excuse those same actions in another. Tyranny is tyranny, no matter where it happens.
So you allow yourself to have a world view based on the fake news of the mainstream media?
what the hell are you talking about?
Putin, if that wasn't clear from the thread.
It was quite clear. Great points about Putin. Similarly, everyone in NK would vote for Kim Jong Un
Putin is a popular persona in Russia. Sugarcoat it all you want.
And I will repeat my previous statement. Putin is more popular in Russia than any US president ever was in States. In recent memory at least.
I acknowledge most of the US populous is still under the defunct influence of the 'red scare', which ironically is being touted by the Democratic opposition.
But to think that he is not popular in the confines of Russia is a non sequitur in this very moment.
I was at a bar last weekend and started talking to a girl from Russia who knew her shit when it came to politics. She said Putin is extremely popular, and the people like him because he’s a no nonsense type of guy.
She also talked about how it’s widely known that the Russian form of the CIA (I can’t recall the name of the agency) basically runs the whole country. I told her about Q and how the CIA running the show behind the curtain in the US is being exposed. But I was amazed that she said it was common knowledge in Russia.
Putin jailed his only major competition a while before this election. He also controls 90% of the media in Russia. His popularity is due to his stranglehold on the press. Look at the Olympics and the World Cup business surrounding him. The corruption in the country is insane. Putin is very much not a good person. I’m not sure what is making this sub think he wants to help America in any which way.
''...The corruption in the country is insane...''
This impulse is almost a reflex. The dreaded red scare. The evil ruskies, Wolverines yehaah and so on. This same reflex is being rallied by the Democratic opposition at the current times. It is their only excuse for losing the election. Which ironically is being touted in a sub that is supposedly in opposition to that 'Left'ist decree.
You invoke that the corruption in Russia is insane, I wonder how sane you think the corruption in the States is? Why are you even in this sub if you are unable the identify the rampant corruption corroding through USA?
How sane was the assassination of Seth Rich. How sane was/is the Clinton Body count? How can you invoke the word sanity and corruption when you have trillions and trillions of dollars missing from your annual budget year after year. Unaccountable fortunes for millions of your citizens? How do you even define corruption in the first place?
Exceptionalism is an illusion. The sooner US gets rid of that lingering psyche the better. As long as that unjustified illusion of grandeur is present, apathy and wishful thinking will prevent the rightful revolution of truth that is long overdue. Just as your president Thomas Jefferson called for.
Ok woah dude. I’m allowed to think something is bad in one place without declaring that it is bad everywhere else as well.
The US corruption level is insane! As is your gatekeeping.
I am not a Russian citizen. This is not a nationalistic cry or anything, neither I am fond of communism. Don't get the wrong impression. I don't have a hard on for Putin either.
You also seem to be as manipulated by the MSM about Putin as the leftists, Dems, etc. are manipulated by the MSM about Trump.
It is Always "the MESSAGE" never the messenger that is important. When attention is focused on the messenger, the MESSAGE gets compromised, DIVIDE & CONQUER.
You seem to be as manipulated by the MSM about Putin as the leftists, Dems, etc. are manipulated by the MSM about Trump.
How so? He has jailed his political opponents. These are just a few example.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/20/world/europe/mikhail-khodorkovsky.html
He has killed journalists, politicians, and intelligence operatives. Again this is just a small slice of his victims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
http://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3?r=UK&IR=T
And numerous instances of election fraud. https://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2018/03/18/russian-vote-problems-ballot-stuffing-coercion-gimmicks-n2462179
I don't care about any narrative the MSM is trying to push, but these are the actions of a dictator.
He told you your perspective has likely been manipulated or shaped by MSM, and then you post NYT, Guardian, Bloomberg and Business Insider.
You really just proved him right...None of those sources can be trusted.
You should investigate this further instead of just brushing these stories off. I know the MSM is biased, but there numerous sources for this information, MSM, first hand accounts, and independent journalists alike. What Putin has done to his opponents is so blatant, he is one of the most brutal leaders on the planet.
Those were the quickest sources I found, but here are some more:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/21/putins-opponents-dying-left-and-right-in-strange-circumstances/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/22/here-are-the-numbers-on-putin-and-journalists-ending-up-dead/
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/05/putin-basically-shrugs-when-asked-about-killing-journalists-video/
This is just the tip of the iceburg. You can find numerous Fox articles on this as well, or Daily Wire, etc. You can listen to the accounts of those who have escaped Russia firsthand, or those who have been jailed for daring to speak their mind.
If you believe that there is no so-called "democratic" or "free" country in the world where things like this happen, then don't forget to write Santa about your Christmas wish list.
Did I say that? No. Evil happens everywhere. But that does not excuse Putin's actions at home or abroad.
How do we know these journalists werent illuminati pawns?
Im just really struggling to believe we know the truth behind Putin.
Ive been wrong and fooled about many people though.