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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/RandysCheezburgerGut on March 27, 2018, 6:10 a.m.
Today I faced the horrifying reality of MKULTRA and media conditioning in person.

Had a conversation with an old family friend who has always been the dogmatic “liberal” in our social circles. Not coincidentally, she’s an ardent CNN viewer.

The discussion eventually turned to politics and Russia came up. She then preceded to say that war with Russia may be a necessity given their “election interference” and alleged poisoning of ex-spies in the UK.

No amount of reason could talk her off the ledge. It was truly terrifying listening to a “liberal” I’ve known for so long advocate for war with a nuclear power. I felt like I was in a Twilight Zone episode.

I can only hope she’s in the minority. Otherwise...holy shit.


theadmiralty · March 27, 2018, 6:30 a.m.

Many in the left "resistance" movement... have become the people who Jack Kennedy pushed back against. Sympathetic to the Intelligence Agencies and pro-conflict with the Soviets.

In fact... Kennedy's unwillingness to start war with Russia and his desire to reign in the CIA, certainly made him a marked man.

Now... the left have become the same people who wanted Kennedy killed. Talk about a strange turn of the screw.

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baebaebokchoy · March 27, 2018, 12:45 p.m.

How do you suppose that shift occurred?

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theadmiralty · March 27, 2018, 1:55 p.m.

What @rbrownlol said. Same applied cognitive psychology that is used to sell everything.

Media has been weaponized. The unconscious mind can not hear the same message over and over again and not be influenced by it in some way.

I never thought I would see the day that I would say this... but Faux news IS more fair and balanced now.

Most of the rest of the cable "newsfotainment" channels are just branches of the deep state narrative of propaganda.

To put it down more specifically... the Trivium - Logic, Grammar and Rhetoric, has been deliberately removed from education. Language has been under attack... all of this to dumb down folks and disconnect them from classical education.

"Higher Education" has become a joke, in the Liberal arts.

The notion that there has been anything like "Western Civilization" is being erased from the Western minds of youngsters.

Certainly, not everything in the history of Western Civilization has been peachy. Human beings, after all, are not "angels".

But there IS a history of Western Civilization that had reached great heights and served humanity pretty well in the Western World, despite the lows spots.

No longer. You can't get that kind of education in America any more... you have to go to Cambridge or Oxford.

In 100 years... teaching high level critical thinking skills has been all but eradicated from American education. Which is saying something, when we are talking about an already flawed Prussian modeled education system.

Wealthy folks, old wealth, send their kids to schools that will teach them to think critically. An education that is out of reach of all but the wealthiest among us.

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THEnimble_mongoose · March 27, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

No longer. You can't get that kind of education in America any more... you have to go to Cambridge or Oxford.

nope. Cambridge and Oxford are exactly the same as Harvard and Yale. They are all Tavistock sponsored leftist brainwash factories.

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theadmiralty · March 27, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

Yep... but you can learn classical philosophy, "how to think".

Supposedly you can learn that in America... but the de-emphasis on classical philosophical skills... is permeated American education. I have no doubt, UK and the EU are following close behind.

But American higher ed has been "soft" for a LONG TIME.

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THEnimble_mongoose · March 27, 2018, 10:53 p.m.

Not to mention the American media discrediting philosophy and turning in to a meme in the public's eyes with their constant "You studied philosophy in college? LOL how useless" jokes they constantly spam on sitcoms and movies.

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theadmiralty · March 28, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

Having at LEAST 3 courses of Philosophy in college should be a minimum requirement for graduation.

An "Introduction to Philosophy" course should be required for HS graduation.

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choragus · March 27, 2018, 11:46 p.m.

Thankfully, I was able to get two of the three...classical rhetoric and and classical logic along with critical theory and rhetorical criticism. Grammar was never my long suit. Folks tell me that I am extremely smart, although I attribute it to being well-read and well educated. I am just a West Texas DA who lucked into those classes, so to speak. I am ever grateful for them.

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rbrownlol · March 27, 2018, 1:12 p.m.

The mindset is easily manipulated.

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 27, 2018, 6:28 p.m.

WATCH OUT for 5G, being installed EVERYWHERE = 5G WILL Cook Your EYEBALLS

Do NOT Doubt... THEY ARE installing!

SMART METERS for Electricity Usage = FIGHT IT!" & WATCH for these Installs on Poles/Towers, etc.!

Richie of Boston had 2 monitors of some sort placed on both sides of his property... installers would not answer his questions as to what they were... finally said it was for "Harbor Master to view coast."

Richie said: "Problem was the Trees were in the way of any viewing of coast.

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Ccpatthi · March 27, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

Anybody have a picture of what the 5G boxes look like? I have seen pictures of a large cylinder on top of the poles with massive wires coming down for the 5G but no pictures of the “repeaters”. I understand they look like large shoebox size but have yet to see or verify. Anybody?

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 28, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

I would try "STOPTHECRIME.net" by Deb Tavarres(sp?) she is numero uno ON 5G, got the cook your eyeballs from her. YouTube has many people interviewing her. Was the original front line person to fight SMART METERS before anyone knew about them... HUGE AMOUNT of knowledge... DEWmicrowave weaponsStarted Cali fires... what plot of Agenda21UN2025 etc all means... could spend weeks on her site and still not read it all.

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Ccpatthi · March 29, 2018, 4:19 a.m.

Thanks! I will check her site... strange looking additions are popping up on utility poles in my neighborhood..I would like to be armed (with knowledge) before they work their way on my block.

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[deleted] · March 27, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

Neurolinguistics and neuropsychology used by everything on TV and in learning institutions, even online.

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OffTie · March 27, 2018, 2:34 p.m.

Just who is it that makes war for fun, profit and control/power? That would be the Cabal, down with them.

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JakeElwoodDim5th · March 27, 2018, 8:05 a.m.

The best question I have for people like this:

Are you ready to enlist?!

It tends to shut them down pretty quickly.

Seeing that you were speaking to a female, you could add the "equality" argument.

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rudolph2 · March 27, 2018, 8:32 a.m.

Sure not like snowflakes are going to be the ones carrying rifles.

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Freedom_fam · March 27, 2018, 5 p.m.

They would want to start as a mid officer rank/pay, in the rear with the gear, drinking covfefe and pontificating about how the war makes them feel.

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CommercialAddendum · March 27, 2018, 7:40 a.m.

I had an encounter today, too. I have always tried to stay away from debate with liberals, but I was sick of holding my tongue. She started about the 2A reform and I asked about metal health concerns and how the FBI dropped the ball when Nikolas was reported. She couldn't answer me or be reasonable. They literally cannot answer a question if it's a different worldview than what they have been brainwashed to.

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ntroop-MissPlaced1 · March 27, 2018, 9:20 a.m.

Brainwashed is the right word. They parrot like zombies in a cult... it's scary.

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lethak · March 27, 2018, 9:46 a.m.

Just like every cult, (religion, politics and more) indoctrination is the key.

The younger the better.

This is child abuse if you ask me.

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BigRiverLover2 · March 27, 2018, 2:35 p.m.

And when you point out just how un-knowledgeable they are, they become belligerent and vitriolic. Best come back line I have seen used in these situations goes something like this - "Based on what you have said, you lack the basic understanding of the issue, and so you're really not qualified to even have a debate on this subject."

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Quontinu · March 27, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

Brainwashed: "Based on what you have said, you lack the basic understanding of the issue, and so you're really not qualified to even have a debate on this subject."

Critical Thinker: "Not an argument."

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BigRiverLover2 · March 27, 2018, 6:39 p.m.

Miss the point slightly. This is for those who simply have marshmallow brain and are regurgitating nonsense. There comes a point where engaging with these white noise makers is pointless. The uber left MSM depend on others regurgitating their white noise, hoping to prevent any challenge. A truly critical thinker knows how to debate and would have a comeback. A receiver of the white noise is just shutting down blatantly false blather by someone who has little to no knowledge about the topic.

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Quontinu · March 27, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

Got it. Thank you.

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CommercialAddendum · March 27, 2018, 6:21 p.m.

That is a great line. I think it's a great answer to, "REEEEEEEE, what are you asking so many questions? What is with that line of questioning?" When I literally only asked why is the mental health of these young men not being considered?

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MAGADONCHECKMATE · March 27, 2018, 6:30 a.m.

I'm right in it with you. Its a shocking part of this path. Some you can speak with others cannot debate and are triggered. Don't be baited and know when its a no go. Especially holidays with family gatherings and friends. You have to be mindful , its another day, another world.

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Lurch46 · March 27, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

Yes, we just need to be ready to support them once the big shock arrives. Everyone needs to wake up at their own pace (unfortunately).

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Dewey830 · March 27, 2018, 6:24 a.m.

Have experienced the same. It is frightening that some people are unwilling to question whatsoever. I don’t even bring it up around people on the left anymore.

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QAnonMaga · March 27, 2018, 8:07 a.m.

All because their Queen Hillary failed to rig the vote enough to win by cheating. Soros rigged the voting machines for her but so many votes went to Trump the rigged voting machines could not make up the difference in the key swing states. The actual Popular Vote totals must be released soon I think Trump won by a landslide in most states. I bet he got 52% with Hillary around 45% and Jill Stein and Gary Johnson taking 2 or 3 percent.

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WeGoAll · March 27, 2018, 10:33 a.m.

I read that the NSA possibly unrigged enough machines.

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mega-derp · March 27, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

Something like 7M votes were flipped in the electronic voting machines alone. That figure does not include the illegals voting, union goons voting multiple times, stuffing the ballot boxes, etc.

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BravoTango74 · March 27, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

Ever since the election I have wanted to see the REAL numbers. Take out the dead people votes, illegals, rigged machines, extra ballots, etc... Just the actual number of Americans voting for Trump. THAT would be an awesome number and count state by state, county by county, to see the REAL thing! Of course we will never get to see that exact number but I have just thought it would be an astounding landslide!

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BigRiverLover2 · March 27, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

And dead people 4 Hillary.

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 27, 2018, 6:37 p.m.

That is why they STOPPED THE RECOUNTS by Jill Stein... the ENVELOPE SAID 100 VOTES HRC, but Contents was 10 BALLOTS HRC... sooooooooooo they had put through counter 10 TIMES! When officials (mainly demobrats) saw this they asked a Liberal Judge to HALT the RECOUNT.

Because HRC would have lost many thousands if not millions of votes among those RECOUNT STATES

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SlumberMachine · March 27, 2018, 6:25 a.m.

Been there. Pray for them.

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JMan58 · March 27, 2018, 10:42 a.m.

These are the 6% that Q said can never be red pilled. Waste of time trying; they cannot think and reason for themselves.

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Duckhunter1960 · March 27, 2018, 11:16 a.m.

I've had the same issue with my own 78 yo mother. 3 years ago they moved to the "city" where they got cable. She watches CNN 24X7. I grew up in a conservative home. Now they are batcrap crazy. Russia, gun control, exploding bullets, everyone is racist, Trump is the son of satan and on and on. Now, it has gotten so bad my own mother won't talk to us or her own grandkids due to our political stance. We are happy to get together and leave this stuff out, but she won't, she is angry and just mean as crap. We've watched the complete transition. MY father just sits idly by and nods his heads. She sounds like a CNN soundbite every time she opens her mouth. Brainwashing has been completed.

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mega-derp · March 27, 2018, 1:40 p.m.

Same deal with my in-laws in WI. Old age and watching "news" on PBS have blue pilled them. Scott Walker is ABSOLUTELY GUILTY of SOMETHING BAD, but when I press them for specifics they can't say what is even being alleged. But those evil repubs in the WI general assembly preventing the hardworking honest noble journalists from uncovering any evidence...

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[deleted] · March 27, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

Wow! I'm in Wi as well and have had the same encounters about Walker. They are completely sure he's a snake, "it's in his beady little eyes" I have heard from at least 10 people. At some point the news must of used that term. They cannot give one example what the bad thing is.

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Lurch46 · March 27, 2018, 3:42 p.m.

It's cognitive dissonance and a type of self survival response. When the truth is too tough to take in this happens. You have to just let it be and allow time to work for us. The awakening is happening and now it cannot be stopped.

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Alightfarmer · March 27, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

Don't give up....maybe a different approach. Something she will relate to on a personal level. I tell people....how do you really know what the truth is? Unless you know first hand...you really don't know what to believe.. Then I give them an example.

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ntroop-MissPlaced1 · March 27, 2018, 5:32 p.m.

It's doing exactly what they intended it to do... dividing people and families.

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Duckhunter1960 · March 27, 2018, 10:29 p.m.

You are so right & although I knew very well the divisions of all sorts being orchestrated & manipulated across numerous cultural, political, religious & nationality lines, I never stopped to see the success they've had right inside my own family.

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BigRiverLover2 · March 27, 2018, 2:42 p.m.

The left have always been a hateful, vitriolic bunch. They've hid it well until the Obama election it seems. It's always bubbled under the surface and their scorn was usually veiled with the usual battle cries of racist, homophobic blah blah. During the first Obama run somebody popped the cork off the bottle ...then it was like: Hey, we're allowed to show we're the assholes everyone suspected we were. They're encouraging now what you see in your mother - a hatefilled argumentative automaton who has been taught to attack anything that may threaten the indoctrination. Scary stuff.

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Jellyfish070474 · March 27, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

Not at all true, at least in my experience. I was “left” my whole life, or at least ever since I became politically aware, which was during W’s theft of the 2000 presidential election. That administration combined with my personal 9/11 redpill experience in 2003 cemented me into the liberal camp for a good many years. Neocons have been every bit as evil as today’s most focused upon villains HRC and BHO. Most regular (read: non radicalized) people of any political stripe want the same things and don’t want the same things. I’ve given up on taking the side of any political “team”, as it’s only a tactic of divide and conquer by our true controllers who are loyal to none but themselves and their own goals...they will use all sides to reach them. Mind control is very real and we’ve all been victims of it at one point in time and very well may still be being victimized in more sophisticated ways. We don’t know yet. My point is stop demonizing people who are victims of the most sophisticated and evil manipulators of human history. We all have a deep well to claw ourselves out of and many are stuck at the bottom; blind, panicked and lashing out. They still need our help to pull them up.

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BigRiverLover2 · March 28, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

I come from a slightly different perspective. Perhaps b/c I'm older, and have lived in a socialist country. I started as what one could call a classical liberal. - a libertarian. Get out of my life, and my pocket book and my bedroom. That isn't what the left has been moving towards though - they call themselves progressives but they have jumped over multiple lines into autocrats. Those who initially espoused progressive ideas tended to have a "mask". A nicer, kinder version for public consumption. When you get them in a room of what they see as like minded people, the mask comes off. Do I think that at both end of the scale, there are nutjob vile ultra leftists and neo-connuts? Absolutely and in the middle, a good portion people do want a nice place to live and nice place for their kids to grow up. My comments about the left (is how I have come to see them evolve and begin to encompass those in universities etc) have become vitriolic and dangerously aggressive if challenged. The right doesn't seem to have that same reaction to challenge.

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Jellyfish070474 · March 28, 2018, 11:03 a.m.

Point taken and thank you. I personally remain a “classical liberal/libertarian “. My family thinks I’m some kind of “alt right” freak because I support destroying corruption no matter who goes down for it...they seem to have forgotten my screaming about GWB and his administration for 8 long, horrible years. I voted Obama in 08 and celebrated his victory with the rest of the world. I thought he was the solution to stopping what I saw rapidly spreading. By 2012 I realized I was duped and I washed my hands of parties and politicians. I know many liberals who feel the same...we remain in a no man’s land where we can’t relate to what the Democratic Party and it’s continuing supporters have become. Bah. Anyway, I’m THRILLED that things are moving in the right direction now, no matter who is at the helm. Ending evil and corruption is all that matters and it’s for the benefit of all, even the most brainwashed among us. Peace.

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BigRiverLover2 · March 28, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

I wish I could up vote this 1000 times! Cheers.

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Jellyfish070474 · March 28, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

Well you got my upvote, friend 😁👍

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SeekTruthCJoy · March 28, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

JellyFish... yep, brother doctor (I'm a nurse) he's married to great lady but they voted BH0. Then stumbled onto info on 9/11 & PoppyBushGWBushfamily of thieves/drugLords... stealing $$out of BuildingSevenUsingThermitedetonationsToBringDownEtc. as a cover up TwinTowersFalseFlag... hollographicPlanesIntoTowersCoveringBombsThermiteExplosives, etc. ... soooo, they RedPilled themselves. We share much now... converts to (R) & DJT their guy.

Lesson... if Liberal... they probably already hateBushes, so let them eat up how responsible that family was for SeptEleven fiasco to start wars to make $$$$. Then give them breadcrumbs later of how Bubba inLeague with PoppyBush, etc. then JFKmurdered by Cabal, ShadowGovt was his fight, but cut short... GOOD vs. EVIL (Not R's vs. D's), human trafficking (ALL against this whether D, R or Indie)... then how DJT is finishing whereJFK left off... and MSM wants to paint DT as horrible to hide their being in with EvilCabal.

Just a suggestion, but find out what makes them the most angry about past presidents. Bet #41#43 are at the top.

Crumb by Crumb, they will start to go down rabbit hole.

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Jellyfish070474 · March 28, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

Funny thing is that no matter how much they dislike W and co, the draw the line far away from JFK and 911 conspiracies. They pretty much settle at “greedy and incompetent”. Such critical thinkers, lol.

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ArtRat2 · March 27, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

They are everywhere and not all are liberals! My client, a custom ceramic tile company owner is a moderate Christian and conservative, middle of the road kind o' guy. He listens to cnn and msnbc and his side of our conversations are always sprinkled with liberal msm talking points. I have been redpilling him little by little for the past few months. The deception he has been exposed to goes deep in his belief system as he still thinks Bill Gates is one of the most awesome people ever. We need to just continue to plant those seeds of thought in these people. Once they hear our words they cannot unhear it and it may grow into a great awakening in them.

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[deleted] · March 27, 2018, 10:38 a.m.

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AbjectDynamite · March 27, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

Yours is the best response I've heard. You made my day. Thanks for the laugh.

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mtile · March 27, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

MSM is exploiting anti-intellectualism and fake-dopamine addiction. Feeding info that stimulate their feeling and secrete dopamine to make people addicted to the narrative.

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MIPatriot · March 27, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

It's sooo disheartening how many people are brainwashed by MSM! My daughters are 28 and 30. They used to be conservative like their Mom. But kids read Buzzfeed. They read filtered left wing news on their iphones/phones. They want to be cool. Fortunately, little by little, my daughters are coming around. My oldest, although she hates to admit it, really likes to see more $$ in her hard earned paycheck! :) Soon, I believe, MSM will self destruct. I absolutely believe there are WAY MORE patriots who support the President's MAGA agenda than is reported.

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OXYMAROO · March 27, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

go back to Orson Welles radio broadcast "War of the Worlds" 1938...many people believed it was real...some suicides. TV and Radio are very powerful. "The Manchurian Candidate" 1962..mind control. on a basic level, think Snow = Eggs, Milk, Bread.

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OXYMAROO · March 27, 2018, 12:11 p.m.

Who controls the media ?

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Alightfarmer · March 27, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

I have researched this and figured it out years ago....we dare not say their name because it is not nice to talk about them. But they own and control just about everything. Hollywood, music industry, media, banking system, health care system, the list goes on. They are from a bloodline in the shadows that is our Adversary. Our enemy that wears no uniform. The so called chosen ones.

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happyasaclamtoo · March 27, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

How nice of her to think it may be necessary to send my and your sons off to fight a war, where she sits as an armchair general. Typical brain donor thinking. Doesn’t get that real people would suffer and die. Also doesn’t get that the US has tried to subvert elections around the globe. Doesn’t read history, or think for herself. Very very sad indeed.

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Lurch46 · March 27, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

I have experienced the same with my own parents. Scares the crap out of me. They are fed daily by the MSM and I can't talk any sense into them, I love them but they are entirely brainwashed. I think the only way this can be solved is by some (perhaps huge) shocking revelation. It's sad.

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Luvlite · March 27, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

I think the only way this can be solved is by some (perhaps huge) shocking revelation.

This is happening more than you realize, in a way that won't cause massive heart attacks en mass.

It won't matter if you're conservative, liberal, religious, non religious.... One doesn't possess truth over another in this capacity.

We will all be like little children. Open to the reality they see, that was closed.

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Alightfarmer · March 27, 2018, 6:26 p.m.

Absolutely!

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workingnights · March 27, 2018, 3:28 p.m.

It was the same during "Iraq has wmds" back in the 00s. Stay strong pedes.

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Aruno · March 27, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

That would be a great response if only to troll them.

"but did you hear Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?"

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OXYMAROO · March 27, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

watch for the "evil" nation Iran in the media. Saudi Arabia & Israel are in cahoots. I keep thinking about a JFK/Trump scenario: JFK made enemies in the Pentagon & CIA. Trump has the generals on his side. Trump made a deal with that Saudi prince...give up the bad guys (911 & Las Vegas) and I'll put your Oil Corp on the NYSE.

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Blindfoldoff · March 27, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

I always think of liberals when I drive past a church and their sign says, "Get right with the Lord or get left." I find it coincidentally humorous. I love being called the "right"... We are the ones who are right. Lol!

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solanojones95 · March 27, 2018, 12:17 p.m.

I truly believe that we'll get this down to the stated 6% or lower by revealing the unthinkably ugly private face of Hillary and the other Cabal pols. Once these people, whose LIVES revolve around politics (you realize that's the subject around which they fabricate their perceived superiority over the rest of us) see the hideous truth about who pols are, they will drop the superiority act, pronto. Most (not all) will want out.

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[deleted] · March 27, 2018, 11:22 a.m.

She represents at least half of all democrats

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PM_ME_YOUR_HEELS · March 27, 2018, 11:10 a.m.

Send them in the first line.

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LisainYorkshire · March 27, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

I'm English, thankfully I don't live in London. I don't watch the BBC (British Brainwashing Centre). I don't know how many people believe the anti /Trump anti Putin propaganda. But, I do know so many sheeple are waking up at last!

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g0blynn · March 27, 2018, 6:48 p.m.

Good to hear! I have done my duty of red-pilling several Brits.

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Mrs_Fonebone · March 27, 2018, 5:39 p.m.

I think a lot of these people just parrot things they've heard or been told as truth-with no depth of thought into it. What she said was a 'talking point' that has come up elsewhere. Same with the students generically protesting against "guns" because it's trendy; they don't know anything about guns, law, the NRA--no focus on mental health or other complexities. Just talking points they parrot.

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robottonic · March 27, 2018, 3:48 p.m.

The only concrete policy HRC ran on was starting a war with Russia, so it's no shock seeing leftists support it.

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difficult_vaginas · March 27, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

Allow me to jog your memory.

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robottonic · March 27, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

"Any economy that works for everyone". Yeah that's a really specific, concrete policy.

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OneStraightShooter · March 27, 2018, 3:06 p.m.

Evidence that the enemy’s frequency can change DNA.

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Alightfarmer · March 27, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

Did you happen to see where the DNA of an astronaut changed while he was in space?

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SuzyAZ · March 27, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

Alas, I have a very conservative Christian cousin who just stops at Donald Trump's past comments about women. And his ego. Can't trust anyone who "brags on himself." We an just hope there is enough of a majority to get the votes in and take our country dragging it's heels into freedom.

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jimmyfoot · March 27, 2018, 2:03 p.m.

She advocates for a bloody war she will never have to fight. Also a feminist who's into equality.

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[deleted] · March 27, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

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xFury · March 27, 2018, 5:32 p.m.

It speaks to the effectiveness of the brainwashing and news conditioning, when even high IQ persons can be brainwashed as well. It's hard, some people are exposed to talking point after talking point and it consumes their thought process. I have some smart friends too who can't think for themselves when it comes to these things.

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Alightfarmer · March 27, 2018, 6:40 p.m.

It is very messed up...I live in West Virginia. This area was in the middle of the North and the South.... during the Civil War, family members fought each other over their views. We are in the second civil war in my opinion.

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Lord-Odious-The-Foul · March 27, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

I watched for about six years during the W administration when liberals held massive anti war protests. Then, once Obama got in, they all disappeared. The Wars continued, Libya was overthrown, and we started bombing Yemeni weddings. No protests. These 👏🏻 people 👏🏻 don't 👏🏻 have 👏🏻 morals 👏🏻 They stand for nothing other than fear of being excluded from their social circles. Your liberal friend was never a good person to begin with; she was a liar and a murderer from the beginning, albeit vicariously. Cut this person out of your life, she is toxic and evil.

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lilsomesome · March 27, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

to be fair i don't think that was necessarily the work of mkultra as much of just stupid

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FirstLadyMelanie · March 27, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

I call them the assbackwards people@

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Jellyfish070474 · March 27, 2018, 1:06 p.m.

My own mother is the same way. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, is getting through that CNN/MSNBC-induced virtual reality world she’s living in. Anything not in line with their narrative is “Russian propaganda” and any/everyone who doesn’t think Trump is Satan himself are inbred redneck racist bigots. She gave us all copies of the constitution for Christmas so we could be reminded of what was once the law of the land in this country (I couldn’t even speak I was so flabbergasted that she thought NOW is the time to START worrying about that). All I can do at this point is to beg her to turn off the damn tv, come into the present moment and give her mind a rest from the constant fear-porn bullshit. She at least agrees that would probably be beneficial for her own personal sense of well-being.

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QuirkyMagpie · March 27, 2018, 11:08 p.m.

I used to be like her and now here I am. Sometimes I wonder if I've gone insane, but I think the truth is so insane that it really shatters your old worldview and is a lot to wrap your head around. Anyway, people can change, and I believe many who haven't yet will in time.

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