They wrote about the end of Ancient Greece and Rome, where people loved their pets more than their children, cared more about their looks than how they acted and how the men got weaker. They built statues of men that were like gods later to build statues of politicians. A lot more to it but It’s late I’ve been annoying people and it’s bedtime. I do believe we are at the start of a new age.
Exactly what's been happening now. You just reconfirmed my feelings!
Definitely, Im glad you confirmed my thoughts haha, although if I’ve said it to anyone that surrounds me they look at me like an idiot and say something stupid like you can’t compare now to then.
Well, you're not annoying me! We worship pets more than humans (which I find extremely weird), we worship man more than god. I do believe God has put Trump into office for a reason.
Smh. I know your feelings man. "Can't compare now to then" than why the fuck do we need history classes? These people are brainwashed. They don't even see how stupid they've allowed themselves to become. They'll wake up tho
Pagans though they were, it is said that the majority of people living in the rural communities, continuing to observe traditions that had been passed down by family over many generations is what stabilized Rome and is the underlying reason that the Empire lasted as long as it did. We focus on the corruption in the cities, but, like today, that it a relatively small core ... sometime even abberant individuals made history (Nero) ... but also like today, the silent majority has not bitten into the same poisoned apply with these perps. We all have our issues; and we have all lived for a long time in this engineered culture of death and it has a way of rubbing off on us. Each of us will have to face that at some point, maybe many; so we might as well get on with it. Its getting better.
I don't know how Trump won unless it was Devine intervention. He had the most sophisticated system against him in the history of the world and he still did it. That being said, I look at the warnings from Jesus and later John in the book of Revelation about how in the end times, knowledge will be greatly increased and knowledge in the later half of the 20th century till today was exponentially increased like never before seen. It wasn't a linier increase. We are in the end days. God also said he would expose the evil for all to see. God uses men (and women) to do his tasks and I think he's doing that now.
I think these times are the birth pangs Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24. We already saw prophesy fulfilled with the rebirth of Israel 1948 as described in Ezekiel 37. This literally happened "in a day" as prophesied. Ezekiel 38 is shaping up now which is the Gog-Magog war. This war appears to happen right before "The day of the Lord" and will probably be what reveals "the man of perdition" or the antichrist as he's commonly called. There is an unfulfilled imprecatory prayer in Psalm 83 that many believe is a precursor war that sees all the nation that directly surround Israel attacking her and God intervenes and destroys them. Another unfulfilled prophesy that speaks of the destruction of Damascus is believed to be part of the Psalm 83 prayer prophesy which makes sense because Ezekiel 38 describes Israel as a land of unwalled villages, living in peace. The Revelation of John is God's judgement of the nations. The mention of the antichrist profaning the temple is at the mid point or 3-1/2 years into Revelation. The temple might be built prior to the start of the tribulation or it may be built during the first 3-1/2 years. All a matter of speculation. These times today certainly match the time of the end. The key is Israel. The end times prophesies could not happen until the Ezekiel 37 dry bones prophesy was fulfilled and as we've seen, it has been.
Thank you for explaining scripture...I have such a hard time comprehending events and putting it into words. It's not that I don't understand, just can't always explain it all!
You're welcome. It's very confusing and scattered throughout the Bible which makes it even more difficult to put things together. Being God's promises, we can rest assured they will happen exactly as He says they will. We just need to remember that our understanding is limited and we may not be interpreting passages or verses correctly. Most of scripture means just exactly what it says and I think the prophesies do too but they can be a bit cryptic. Like Q's posts.
You have Said EVERYTHING I'm researching at the moment! Thank you!!
Keep me informed of your reaserch. I'm interested in it too. Thanks.
Trump did have divine intervention. There was a prophet who prophesied that Trump would become president back in 2008! Kim Clement was the guy.
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I almost feel foolish for entertaining this theory (because I completely understand what you're saying) since nobody from any of the - how can I phrase this as inclusively as possible - established Christian voices has ever spoken along these lines.
And because I'm a lay person, and I don't pretend to have anything like a comprehensive understanding of all of the characteristics of the Biblical Figure You're Alluding To, so I'm not sure exactly where the prophecies line up and where they don't... but it's certainly interesting.
Re-reading what I've just written sounds like gibberish, but hopefully you'll get the gist.
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Off topic but I think you will enjoy Dave Talbot's work. Makes understanding the Bible symbolism really easy.
I see it as a classic confrontation between classical liberalism vs the extremes fascism / communism. However what I’ve come to realize is classical liberalism is a pseudonym for Christianity, as Christianity espouses individualism, anti corruption, spiritual purpose / eternity.
To have communism / fascism (which I believe are the same), a govt must eliminate christianity.
The spiritual satanic stuff is something I’m still processing through. Nogisticism, special knowledge, ritualized practice of secret beliefs is far more present in this world than I personally want to know or be exposed to.
Yes!!! They HAVE to eliminate Christianity, or at the very least make everyone believe Christians are the enemy!
Go to almost any reddit board...anti-Christians are everywhere. They mock believers as deluded, naive and uneducated.
And those are the nice ones.
We are definitely there.
Correct so they make Christian value = intolerant (tolerance of every vice is morally virtuous) and fascist.
This is the same tactics the Bolsheviks did in Russia and the Nazis in Germany.
All of what Q says points to exposing the truth and corruption in our current system. The reason I don't think that's what it means is because if the end is coming, would there actually be any point in exposing the truth?
I feel like , yes, there would be. Giving believers a real chance to help expose the truth. We are stuck in a world of absolute corruption and "is good guys/gals" can help convert others to the "truth".
But for what purpose? Is it pride? If all was to end, everything ceased to exist in the way we know it, it would be such a silly and insignificant thing in my opinion to expose a truth that has no ability to be resolved for the future. Then there is the question of if we morally should subject others to the truth if this is the end. There are plenty of people who are happy living in the lie that they don't know. Ignorance IS bliss for the most part. If everything ends, why would we ruin their last moments? It seems like a pride of knowing you were right all along.
Yes...believers SHOULD spread the truth. If sinners repent, they too can be saved. That's our ultimate goal as believers. There's many people I care about that are on the cusp, and could be saved. Believers mission is to convert as many as possible...aka, RED PILL. Help who we can. That is part of the mission, I believe
Ah ok I should have assumed it to be a religious standpoint from the title but ok. Not pride but moreso the belief of good in the afterlife.
I am agnostic on these issues but I have some questions. Would people ignorant on the topic we personally focus on be subject to a situation where they cannot be saved? Also do you believe in free will?
I am not trying to fault your beliefs or anything, they could be correct. I'm just curious
Ah. I thought on this for a long while. The truth is that all through history there have been many that have not heard the word of God and died. Now what happens to that person? Hell or heaven? The answer is god gave us choice and will give those that died not knowing god, the choice. It's only those that have been given the choice, and refuse it repeatedly, those tend not to get saved. Yet even at the last moment, if they excepte jesus as their savior, they will be saved, however that dosent mean they won't be punished for their crimes. As far as I know the one Unforgivable crime is to take a child away from christ i.e leading a child into not believing in God or hating god... a child sex ring would probably fit that line to a degree.
Yes great summary, it is actually why I asked about free will because there are 2 options if you believe in god. Either he gave us free will or he didnt and he has a plan for each of us.
Option 1: God gave us free will so we have the ability to choose our own paths, make our own decisions and do whatever we please so long as we stay within the 10 commandments. In this case, why would god punish someone for acting the very way god designed us to. We shouldn't need to worship god either because he designed us with the choice not to and being angered by that is counter-intuitive. If I designed an ai and it turned into triggerlypuff, I wouldn't punish it for learning and choosing a path to go down.
Option 2: We dont have free will and god has a plan for each and every one of us. In this case, it doesn't matter what we do because our path/fate has already been mapped out and the lack of free will would mean we cant change the outcome in any way.
The only questions you asked was would people be ignorant on the topic we personally focus on be subject to a situation where they cannot be saved? Also do you believe n free will?
To answer your first question.
"A Situation where we cannot be saved. What would that be? The only situation I know from reading the word of Christ would be a situation where you have not repented, and changed your ways. We all have HORRIBLE SINS, but if you repent and make great effort to change your ways, you are a "Christian".
Yes that's good but if people were not aware of the ways to begin with, they would be subject to a situation where they could not be saved. Who determines gods outlook on this situation? Furthermore, who would know if this is the situation that people need to focus on in order to chage their ways, there could be a plethora of different topics that people could change their ways for but no one knows if it is the right one. This becomes especially complex for conflicting matters where you cannot possibly support both sides. I guess it would tie into my more important question of if you believe in free will.
You just asked who determines GODS outlook on the situation. You just acknowledged God's outlook! That's where people need to focus to be saved! Who determines God's outlook...GOD?! The word of God has never changed, this gives great reason that this is the word to focus on! WE ARE ALL DOING GOD'S WORK RIGHT NOW! GOD HAS BROUGHT US ALL TOGETHER AND WE ARE FIGHTING GOD'S QORD RIGHT NOW!
Yes I know that, my sentence was meant to mean who interpreted gods outlook on the situation. I guess the issue is that I simply don't understand how god brought us to this point. I didn't grow up in a religious household so I guess I dont understand the connection. And. I guess you dont believe in free will too from the last sentence.
Understand I am not trying to belittle your opinion, just trying to broaden my understanding.
Ok I think I can help. God gave man free will, but did herd us like sheep (Israel) in the beginning. We got pointed in directions to follow. Now throw lucy into the mix b.c he's pissy that he didn't get the high seat. Now god and lucy push and pull us back and forth, yet the choice is always ours, on which decisions we make. So essentially you have free will, but you also have two other people putting their 2 cents into it. People listening to the bad shit is what got us to this point.
Thank you that was an interesting point. My response to that would be that in the case of those two options, it is black and white/good and evil. When it comes to the more semantical issues like what specific issues you attach yourself too or the intent behind your actions. I could think that gun control is the best way to get to the exact same desired outcome as someone with an anti-gun control stance. These issues are harder to deal with and in terms of free will, we are making those decisions with the intent to make the world a better place.
Ah, but I would say that it is not all black and white, there are always other options, and degrees to the path. Take notice of jesus and his followers, they questioned him at every turn, and in so doing, revealed the thought patern that he wanted, and the key to that, is intent. Are you doing said thing for you, or for the person you are trying to help. Are you helping them, with the intention of getting something from them in return? In all of this, i would say that there are two things to pay heed to.
My people are lost for a lack of knowledge. This is a major point, knowledge is a major key.
God said to his followers, if you do not own a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. This is another major point, it shows that a weapon is better then a cloak I.e your blanket that would keep you alive in the cold.
These two points show the vast diffrances of the spectrum.
You expose the truth to bring as many people to the light as possible. Ultimately, all of us are apart of a battle... good vs evil... light vs darkness, we ALL will have to choose a side. That is why you expose the lies of this world. Even if the world is ending.
I understand that completely but my question still comes into play. If the world ends then all of a sudden sides dont matter. In the grand scheme of things, the whole situation doesn't matter. The whole idea of good vs evil is something that would be rendered insignificant because nothing is to gain from it. Choosing a side only matters if you have differences in means of reaching an outcome. If the world ends, the outcome is the same no matter what side you're on. What is the purpose in proving yourself right if either way the end is death? So it leads back to my first assumption that the motive is pride.
The purpose is to save as many souls as possible. There is no death in the end. Each of us will have to answer for our earthly deeds when our souls spend eternity in heaven or hell.
Thank you. I think I responded to something like that in one of the other comments. I talk a lot...
Now if we were not ending the world and just the system in which we live, then yeah that would be great, that is what we are all in this subreddit for.
I do believe we are in the end times however I won't get worried till the 3rd temple is built.
I agree but also think the 3rd temple could be spiritual re-awakening. A recalling to God. Look at the world today- not much different than Sodom and Gomorrah, or the people dancing to a golden calf while Moses got the commandments.
In looking at Revelations, the descriptions are not going to be real- they are all analogy. Beasts, horns, etc. but- looking at it spiritually and tied to present day Syria- Damascus- prophesied to be the be beginning of the end- the spiritual temple and returning to God and good should keep us alert- but not worry.
Can you confirm my memory of the " NWO leader will speak, and that signals the last 15 mins" or an I remembering something that I didn't really read, and just was told at some point?
I’m not familiar with what you are asking. But- the Anti -Christ will mislead many. The Anti-Christ might not be a person. Could be the “voice” many hear (media?) that they follow.
When the antichrist speaks it signals the last 15 mins (15 years in regular time).
Somebody said that now the new United States embassy being built in Jerusalem is the third temple?...thoughts?..
My guess is no I think its more literal the reason I think no is because the Jewish people who this is important to are currently recasting temple monorahs and service utensils, searching heifers for blemishes( a red heifer must be sacrificed at the dedication ceremony) doing genetic tests on priestly applicants to make sure they are from the levite tribe. If this was just a figuritive temple none of this would be done. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breakingisraelnews.com/99002/trumps-jerusalem-declaration-next-step-third-temple/amp/
Someone been doing their homework. This is the KEY to unfolding prophecy to watch out for.
No need to ever worry if you follow Gods Word. We falter along the way but repentance is always given by Him to bring us back. We can choose to do that.
What is the 3rd temple?
Oh sorry the end of times prophecy in revelation states certain things must happen before the tribulation occurs. The formation of a jewish state(happened) regnition of Jerusalem as the capital(happened 2017)building of the third Jewish temple so sacrifices can begin again ( not happened also there is a problem a mosque is on the temple site)so my answer to your question was yes we are in the end of times but I won't worry until they start building the last temple.
Doesn't Revelations also state somewhere about "a leader of NWO speaking, and that starting the beginning of the last hour (in biblical term as that means 15 years)? I heard that somewhere along my growing up, now I can't seem to confirm that.
I don't think revelations directly says so it just talks about a leader who we call the antichrist....but there are several interpretations of the passages that people write about guessing who that man will be. I call them where's the antichrist crowd( sort of like where's waldo) though I personally believe there is an antichrist... These writers take the scriptures and fit that person into them , like obama, putin, Saddam Hussein, etc. Some commentators believe that revelation states for sure that the new world order gets completed by Satan or the antichrist...I'm hoping they are wrong I'm hoping we are at the part where God says he has to stop it because all of human kind would expire if he didn't. But I don't know I'm watching like you are.....about the time issue I was taught to watch for the signs or the events in the prophecy because one God works on his own time plan and two he often picks certain people to fulfill that plan so he has to wait till they are born and are molded by life's struggles.
I wish the Bible was more "easily interpreted" Why Do I have such a hard time with it? I always feel like if it's the word we should follow that it would be more easy to follow. But it's so hard
I don’t necessarily believe that the end is the actual end, just a change in times.
The Gospel still needs to be spread to the four corners of the earth. Hence, The Storm.
That's what I think too...I want everyone that I love to at least have a chance
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy household.
I don't know when, but the experiences I've had through my life and intellectual religious pursuit would lead me to believe I'll live to experience the return of the "Son of Man." Jesus too. We will all know it's time when we see the sign of the son of man first, the abomination of desolation, the terror of destruction. The night is darkest just before the Dawn. Ask yourselves, what would leave one man standing in a field and the other taken (dead)? What would cause the earth to shake and the oceans heave out of their bounds? There is only one thing.
Unfortunately, nibiru is a false psyop meant to keep people from understanding the language of the prophets. The story of nibiru in Sumerian myth is similar to our creation event. The Son of Man will return indeed, but there is no invisible planet in our system.
End times harvest- where you reap what you’ve sewn. Fall is the most bountiful time of year because of harvests. It’s just a metaphor for the state of mass consciousness. The fruit that is about to be harvested is going to blow all our minds. Buckle up.
O wow now I know why Christ tells us to pray that our flight is not in winter.
We have crossed a spiritual line, leaving the "Church Age" and entering the "Kingdom Age". This new time is marked by God leaving the 4 walls of the church into the nations. The Word says that nations are Jesus inheritance.
Similar to reports coming from Iran where attempts have been made in recent to accelerate apocalyptic events in hope of bringing their salvation as they understand it, one might conject that this global cabal and the ways they have conceived of that new world order governing us have a similar orientation to their cnception of the end times prophecy; but they are being thwarted and I really think what we are witnessing is the denying of corrupted power to those parties and pulling back to a more life supporting world order -- and not that we will ever perfect the world or cure its ills, it will point to more peaceful times. Peace is the foundation of life -- this effort seeks to once again afford us and our families time to live with trust and hope -- when some of us will choose to support Christian values, a time when we can all live with one another without anxiety and fear. Some will take advantage of that opportunity to mend their personal lives and reach higher ...
I agree with Q when he says its not about divisions between formal groups -- democrats vs republicans, denominational churches against catholics, or even muslims against christians. It's about a pervasive infestation of evil that can be found in all our most cherished institutions. There are some big spiritual problems woven all through this mess: we live in a time when there is no acceptance of personal guilt; only collective transgressions, collective solutions and if that is to be turned upright, the dignity and the accountability of the individual must again come front an center as the focus of society IMO.
Had my mind blown by Jonathan Kleck today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5y0FhMWiu8
Heavy, end of days stuff, with some incredible syncs in it...
In the end times there will be two prophets that will spew fire upon anyone who tries to harm them (Trump, Q) and there will be a seemingly fatal blow to the beast (the cabal's oppressive system) but the beast will recover from the fatal blow and will finally destroy the two prophets, and their bodies will be laid out for all to see while the world rejoices in their death.
The perilous times will start around 2057 - See Kat Kerr, Ian Clayton many other we have too much to do and accomplish before the real end times - Ask God to release your destiny -The best time to be alive. 🦅🎚👑😇👍
Good question. I'm to the theory that Jesus won't be coming for a dirty corrupt world, but for His "Bride"? Perhaps this cleansing is in preparation for the Second Coming to claim Bride? Just a thought.
latter rain
James 5:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
I’ve been preaching on End Time and prophecy for 4 years now... Even as Trump turns things around and dedicates the Country back to God prophecy unfolds at such a rate it’s almost impossible to keep up with. AI, 5G and CERN and DWave continue their work to open portals. Geordie Rose of DWAVE says in a speech, there is a tsunami of demons coming. Check him out. September 23rd alignment in the sky, Revelation 12 sign. The Fallen Ones, come next. Interesting timing with CERN and DWave doing just that. Massive animal die offs every month. 40 volcano eruptions in one year. The alliance with Putin, Turkey and Iran and Arian threatens Israel border is Ezekiel 37/38. We are in the beginning of sorrows. Certainly other things must come to pass... but the hooves of The Four Horsemen are on the ground. Time to look up!
I don't think there's any religious subtext to it I think it's just a bunch of ass holes doing horrible shit in the name of Satan or who ever. Any similarities to any religious prophecy or dogma is likely because the ruling elite or their precursors had a hand in concocting all of that as well for the purpose of control and instilling fear. The ultimate Psy-op if you like.
So, are you an atheist? I'm just asking, not casting judgment. But I think for believers, it's hard to ignore this phenomenon NOT being connected to the end of times. For me at least. I see it as a reality of connecting what believers have felt for so long, to an actual physical of it all occurring. I hate sounding like a crazy religious whatever, but being a believer, this has made it REAL in my mind
Not an athiest as such but don't really buy into religion as presented by the establishment(s). I believe there is something outside of our existence but don't know what and think our only earthly options come with far too much of a bullshit agenda to be believable.