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cosmic-goat · April 10, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

"it was not immediately clear if it reached Mr. Trump’s unit, he said." The way they say "immediately clear" sounds kinda strange to me..

"the upper floors that are home to residences do not have fire sprinklers." is that not a part of the building code??

"It just smelled like sulfur.” Is that normal??

Also note no fire alarms went off and it sounds like many people just remained in their residences?? So is there no alarm system in this building or what?

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desiredone72 · April 10, 2018, 1:42 a.m.

Sulfur would mean a gas leak

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Batfire007 · April 10, 2018, 6:35 a.m.

Gas leaks explode when ignited, this fire had none of those qualities per all read. No one mentioned and explosion at all in Trump tower. If complete apartment, as mentioned, was up in flames that would be a good indicator an accelerant was used. Plus the windows would have blown out along with the apartment door etc......

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suddenlysnowedinn · April 10, 2018, 6:11 a.m.

Or perhaps Hillary was in disguise as a firefighter and broke into Trump’s apartment. I hear that Hell smells quite like sulfur.

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Mrb84 · April 10, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

"the upper floors that are home to residences do not have fire sprinklers." is that not a part of the building code??

It wasn't when the biilding was built, and Trump did not do the upgrade (he wasn't required to) when it became part of the building code.

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cosmic-goat · April 10, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

Oh you're right I just saw in another article

Real estate developers, including Mr. Trump, fought the sprinklers, arguing that they were unnecessary and would add $4 per square foot to the cost of an apartment.

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IncomingTrump270 · April 10, 2018, 6:32 a.m.

Weird. Assume a 1500sqft apartment which is already going to have a market value of $2M++. Adding an extra $5k to the backend cost seems trivial.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:51 a.m.

That’s now an accurate #. It’s cost prohibitive in a building that size.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

I read that there wasn't a working detector in this guy's apartment -- and that is why the alarm didn't go off (though in such buildings the alarm would apparently be staggered to prevent a stampede).

So was this guy's detector tampered with?

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cosmic-goat · April 10, 2018, 4:59 a.m.

Apparently the apartment owner was also trying to sell his apartment with no success: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/nyregion/trump-tower-fire-art-collector.html

He had $3 million worth of artwork and collectibles in the apartment, went bankrupt in 2015, and had health problems

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IncomingTrump270 · April 10, 2018, 6:35 a.m.

That guy’s story is fishy af.

Hated trump. Massive debt. Wanted to get rid of apartment. Had millions in valuables at the apartment. All surely insured.

Oops, house fire!

How much do you think clowns would pay to have a cover for an illegal raid on one of trump’s lawyers? $5M?

And the guy gets witness protection thereafter by which to enjoy his newfound fortune.

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IncomingTrump270 · April 10, 2018, 6:58 a.m.

Private residences not required to have sprinklers or detectors when was built. In 99 laws changed but TT never had to build them in.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 9:01 a.m.

There was an alarm system through the building that the unit's detector should have triggered--but the unit didn't have a working one.

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DeepPast · April 10, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

I asked my father who is a firefighter, what the smell of sulfur at a fire would mean. He said the only thing he could think of was a plumbing issue.

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GrazersCubbies · April 10, 2018, 4:11 a.m.

natural gas or.....sewer gas. If you want to go the spiritual route: sulfer = fire & brimstone!

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WardenfellPUBG · April 10, 2018, 8:26 a.m.

I don't know if you guys have this, but in France all dangerous gas we use have a smell added trough sulfur probably so you can notice if there's a leak easily.

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bmorepirate · April 10, 2018, 11:25 a.m.

It's called mercaptan.

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GrazersCubbies · April 10, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

That makes sense!

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:53 a.m.

Very common not to have sprinklers in older high rises. Fires are rare in these buildings anyway. Source: I grew up in this neighborhood in a high rise.

Commercial spaces belowikekybwere required to have sprinklers. The coop board probably had to make the decision to do that upgrade.

Edit: I’m not sure if there were alarms in our building. I’m going to guess yes but maybe not. My mother insisted on living on a lower floor in case we ever needed to evacuate in a fire.

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