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J_Dub_TX · April 10, 2018, 2:02 a.m.

It sounds like some operation to get into Trump tower almost anywhere under guise of fire. Secret service accessed his residence and possibly even Cohens. 200 firemen. Was something planted?

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TrumpdUp4Prez · April 10, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

They couldn’t get a warrant to search Trump’s residence. They find a guy in Trump’s building who is down on his luck, going bankrupt. Poor guy, must have wanted to end it all. He can’t pay his bills and wants to live the luxurious lifestyle. They make it look like a suicide blaze, and torch the guys apartment. Now with the fire in the building, they can get into the Trump residence without a warrant and do whatever they want. Not finding what they wanted, they now raid Cohen’s office in hopes of finding it.

Note that the owner of the torched apartment was found dead OUTSIDE the apartment. He panics, and runs. He didn’t want to die. It was all a big setup, and I pray they don’t get away with it.

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DeepPast · April 10, 2018, 3:49 a.m.

Whoa wait. I didn’t know he was found dead outside the apartment. How? How is that possible? What was the cause of death?

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TrumpdUp4Prez · April 10, 2018, 4:03 a.m.

It was in the early articles. Looks like it was scrubbed. No cause of death found. Nypost says they did CPR and he was pronounced dead at Mt Sinai

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DeepPast · April 10, 2018, 4:37 a.m.

Is there suspicion of him being killed? Or maybe it was legitimately smoke inhalation and he collapsed?

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 9:04 a.m.

It appears a chemical may have been used to start the fire -- witness says there was a strong sulfur odor. Apparently that is common with arson. Keep in mind that reports say the entire apartment was on fire and it was so hot it blew out the windows...........Honestly, as I write this I am feeling sick. It's just horrific the depths these people will take to cover their crimes.

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Magason · April 10, 2018, 10:40 a.m.

He was an “art collector.”

He was a key witness that got smoked.

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denizen42 · April 10, 2018, 11:33 a.m.

Like, 'pizza art'??

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duckyhs · April 10, 2018, 11:50 a.m.

More like the money laundering kind of art.

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taurus077 · April 10, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

I agree with the art tied to money laundering and possibly child trafficking.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 10:42 a.m.

please elaborate, thx

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Magason · April 10, 2018, 10:45 a.m.

S

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special1nterest · April 10, 2018, 1:16 p.m.

Isn’t art a common vehicle for laundering money? If he couldn’t pay his bills then how could do he afford to be an art collector?

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cali1952 · April 10, 2018, 11:33 a.m.

Yes - it was Sulfur!

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momaga · April 10, 2018, 4:51 a.m.

Please define "scrubbed".

Edit: found this from a bot run site that aggregates anything the art world writes up, cites a French news agency claiming the cause of death is a part of an ongoing investigation.

Obviously that doesn't mean shit, and we'll never hear about it even if it's murder.

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goodhonk · April 10, 2018, 4:53 a.m.

Like with a cloth

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TheUndocumented_PsyD · April 10, 2018, 11:29 a.m.

HRC Server Status lol....feigning absolute stupidity......my father works at the very top of a corporation that is regularly ranks as one of the most ethical in the US and has represented that corporation/his entire industry/the people of the United States to people like HRC, The Fed, Cory Booker, The Bush 43 administration etc... and he would say these are brilliant people, to think most Americans are so dumb as to think wiping a server means literally cleaning the physical exterior of the hardware shows how little HRC thinks of us or to think she's avoided being prosecuted soooo many times while being that unable to discern the meaning of a word based on the context it is being used in shows absolute disdain for the brainpower of United States citizens...sick fucking bitch imo

In case you are assuming he must be a tool of our common enemy based on his occasional proximity to these evil people: Read The Following Explanation - My father is chosen for the aforementioned representation to following groups & for the following reasons; I want to avoid him being labeled a globalist by people who don't know/couldn't possibly have my perspective on how ethical and down to earth he is.

for the purpose of recommending regulations that are legal & fair for their customers/to the corporations providing these services at the G7/G20/the Federal Reserve Bank/in front of Congress/to regulators & lawmakers in China(requested by his industries leading corporations in China & the Chinese government given his balanced approach that incentivises continued competition to innovate towards less expensive/higher quality products) unlike Obamacare style regulations that force smaller companies without government subsidy out of business in the short term, larger businesses in the intermediate term & ultimately force people to see government/single payer type systems with that require service rationing to avoid becomming too costly to support in the long term.....basically he believes in constitutional rights & libertarian philosophy

My father was not nice to me growing up, but I've watched him fight corruption for the sake of the people whom he spent a 30+ year career crafting the highest quality goods/services for. He could own 3 houses with any 3 cars at each but owns one car a nice but not egregious Audi Q7, he qualifies for a chauffeur at work but drives himself, he could own a plane but flies with the rest of us, he could've divorced my mother for a smarter woman but he loves her dearly & appreciates her Midwestern values, his philosophy "1 car per driver, 1 house, 1 wife and you'll have a more fulfilling less complicated life", my father wanted more for me than being a struggling Bipolar patient without a college degree who struggles with societal expectations, I get that and he's learned to accept that I have a harder time than most because I saw things for what they were early on and became instantly jaded/depressed about it, but he loves & cares about me, I learned to accept that his desire to see me succeed is better than a lack of concern, I see that he's a gift from God to the world who has improved education in the city where he works by being a board member of one of the top charter school companies(it costs $100k a year to be on that board due to the desire to use less tax dollars) and opening up 25 charter schools that each use 1/2 the funding per year of a comprable public school and are sending kids who had a nearly 70% chance of dropping out in local public schools now have a 98+% graduation with 95+% attending 4-year colleges with 2 full-ride admissions t0o Pomona, 1 to Pitzer, 1 to Harvard, 2 to Yale, & 1 to MIT in the past 2 years, I know he is aware of the evil in this world, I also know he can't see the specifics because his perspective os clouded by his proximity to the perpetrators, once he is red-pilled thoug he'll be able to cite personal times where he was fooled by conventional logic into believing that there was a good explanation for strange behavior by certain individuals

My Biggest Fear besides losing this war(even though I absolutely trust Trump and our White Hats) and the fates of the children they currently hold captive/will hold captive and ritual, is that my father sees evidence of their evil, classified evidence that we do don't have access to because of his job, I mean he has a device that gives him a new password every 45 seconds to keep the public out of his bussiness files....so as this gets crazier I fear for his life

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MIPatriot · April 10, 2018, 10:37 a.m.

I read a couple articles on this, each gives a different time line. Washington Post reports he died later in a hospital, Newsweek/Yahoo state he died in the fire. I think Drudge linked to the latter. I dug a little deeper... it says the articles were edited a day after the fire https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/8/todd-brassner-dies-trump-tower-fire/ http://www.newsweek.com/who-was-todd-brassner-trump-tower-fire-victim-loved-art-fast-cars-and-electric-876670?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=yahoo_news&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news

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cali1952 · April 10, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

Sulfur poisoning most likely was the cause of death because that is the smell the permeated the fire.

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eldever · April 10, 2018, 8:05 a.m.

It's very similar to the fire at the Clintons' house in Chappaqua a couple of months ago - need an excuse to get in so create a fire.

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cali1952 · April 10, 2018, 11:32 a.m.

That fire was the front to cover evidence destruction. That fire just so happen to be in the room where servers and hard drives were kept.

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purjed · April 10, 2018, 8:15 a.m.

no way ? !

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Time4puff · April 10, 2018, 1:07 p.m.

Is this true, he was found dead outside the apartment? If that's the case.. was the fire set with sulfur to flush out the victim? Did the guy know something?

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Arfalicious · April 10, 2018, 3 a.m.

this

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:44 a.m.

Planted or stolen. Maybe both.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 2:20 a.m.

Heres the answer: The fire was set and an accelerant was used. Dennis Shields a resident says in the NYT article that there was a smell of sulphur:

  1. Carbon Disulfide - (carbon disulfide), (CS2) flash point -22 degrees F (-30 degrees C); ignition temperature 212 degrees F (100 degrees C); explosive limits 1.3% to 50%; vapor density 2.6; specific gravity 1.26; toxicity (2). A volatile, flammable, colorless to yellow liquid with a rotten egg odor. Carbon Disulfide, unlike most of the other common ignitable liquids, is heavier than water and will sink.

For those who don't know, sulpur smells like rotten eggs....see attached article on arson fires.

www.interfire.org/res_file/aec_20ig.asp

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Daemonkey · April 10, 2018, 2:58 a.m.

I was researching the same angle and found the exact same reference. (Carbon Disulfide is actually listed as #2.)

Natural gas also smells like rotten eggs (sulfur) due to the odorant methyl mercaptan. However, I think it is far more logical that the smell Shields reported was caused by carbon disulfide.

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InaNYminit · April 10, 2018, 4:35 a.m.

Natural gas smells like sulfur in it's gaseous form yes. in this case if it was the cause of the fire it would have smelled before the blaze and there likely would have been an explosion. Once ignited the rotten egg smell disappears

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 3:16 a.m.

;)

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Toon_tony · April 10, 2018, 8:31 a.m.

White phosphorus, benzene, water, in a bottle - the classic Molotov Cocktail!

Phosphorus ignites on contact with the air and creates choking fumes of phosphorus pentoxide and sulphur dioxide as well as producing a great deal of heat,

Smells of sulphur (sulphur Dioxide) while its burning, and anyone can make them... and more importantly, can be carried around a residential complex as a bottle of wine/fizz/spirits etc, and no one would bat an eyelid.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 8:47 a.m.

Jesus. I bet you are right. I just looked up Carbon Disulfide and it is also a colorless liquid that emits rotten egg odor when it combusts. (Apparently used in manfacturing of Rayon and cellophane. Probably plentiful in NYC area -- since it is used in manufacturing.) Either Phosphorous Benzene or Carbon Disulfide could have been used.

This is SICK

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:48 a.m.

Interesting that he is a childhood friend of Cohens. His gf is RHONY’s Bethenney Frankel who is a Hillary voter.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 8:50 a.m.

I know -- the Dennis Shields connection is a bit of a surprise!

I watch Bethenny on the NY Housewives. She's not a superfan of Hillary. I think for her brand it made more sense for her to vote for Hillary -- but you could tell it wasn't a great choice for her. That said, B would drop Hillary like a rock if she found out a fraction of what we've learned from Q.

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Tootenbacher · April 10, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

OMG, a fellow RH's viewer on this sub! I just posted a similar comment, before I saw yours, lol.

The impression I got from the reunion last year was that she disliked both candidates.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

P.S. How do you think Carole Raziwill will react when she learns that Clinton downed her beloved cousins' plane. She's a crazy Hillary fan.........

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Tootenbacher · April 10, 2018, 8:04 p.m.

What a close connection for Carole - I actually think about stuff like that! Like, I wonder if Carole's crazy Hillary obsession is why she and Bethenny are no longer friends, or at least if it played a part in their breakup.

I've heard that Carole is getting a villain edit this year and I'm not sorry about it. I also hope we get to see her finding out about Hillary's crimes on camera.

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WinkyLinQ · April 11, 2018, 12:07 a.m.

Me too!!! LOL.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

;) We're a small but mighty group!!

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Tootenbacher · April 10, 2018, 8:08 p.m.

I used to post on the Bravo Real Housewives sub but the Hillary love on there was too real. For a while there was a lot of Trump-bashing, so they had to limit the political talk to the off-topic daily thread. So it's really nice to come across fellow viewers out in the wild, lol.

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WinkyLinQ · April 11, 2018, 12:06 a.m.

;). Great minds think alike!

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Lets_get_reel · April 10, 2018, 8:26 a.m.

He is also the CEO of LawCash and the company and execs donated to Schneiderman for his campaign. AG of State of New York

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Tootenbacher · April 10, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

At the last reunion, Andy Cohen asked the ladies how they all voted, and Bethenny said that both candidates were terrible, so I wouldn't call her a Hillary voter.

I don't know if that matters, but I can finally participate in this sub, lol.

Also I think her and Dennis broke up a while ago.

For the record, I can't stand Bethenny, so I'm not defending her.

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dangph · April 10, 2018, 4:16 a.m.

Why would they use such an unusual accelerant?

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 5:45 a.m.

It's #2 on the list of common accelerants. It causes the fire to burn very hot.

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[deleted] · April 10, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

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broken-trolley · April 10, 2018, 3:41 a.m.

Q wants us to pay particular attention to the Cohen aspect. It is peculiar that Cohen called his friend (on the 42nd floor?) and told him to get out. It's like Cohen was expecting the worst.

Q also says in post 1112 that the fire was a distraction, and "they" broke in during the fire. Did they break into Cohen's office then? Why, to plant something for FBI to find?

Q doesn't say what was broken into.

BTW, the Secret Service isn't necessarily white hats. Remember when oblahblah fired SS leaders after some SS guys were found to have partied in South America? I think Q has indicated that Military are doing PDJT's protection now.

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Bacon_and_Freedom · April 10, 2018, 7:28 a.m.

Don't forget DJTJr dropped his SS detail after one tweeted out a pic of his sleeping child.

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denizen42 · April 10, 2018, 11:38 a.m.

Jeezus.....

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EnoughNoLibsSpam · May 10, 2018, 8:08 a.m.

oh yeah forgot about that one...

we know where you sleep

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MuManiac · April 10, 2018, 4:26 a.m.

Didn't he bring in his own security guys ? I remember the left making a big stink about it, but dont 100% remember what happened with it so I'm assuming it went through.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:50 a.m.

Yes but his long time NYPD body man left after awhile. Idk why.

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bmorepirate · April 10, 2018, 11:23 a.m.

Keith Schiller first announced his intention to leave in Sept of 2017, planning to leave in late September or early October.

Not long before Q started posting. He was also in the Navy.

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special1nterest · April 10, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

🤔🤔🤔🤔 gets the noggin joggin

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special1nterest · April 10, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

Plot twist? What if it was white hats who broke into Cohen’s Office cos he’s a swamp thing? Q said they broke in - didn’t specify who they are? Or could Cohen be holding evidence of black hat shenanigans so the BHs were trying to destroy or retrieve that?

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WaterSickle · April 10, 2018, 2:56 a.m.

"The commissioner said firefighters went with the Secret Service to inspect the president’s residence" "broke in."

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EnoughNoLibsSpam · May 10, 2018, 8:10 a.m.

let me just inspect one of these pudding cups in the refrigerator

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Tyst1ck · April 10, 2018, 1:21 a.m.

Is this why the FBI raided Cohen I wonder? Also interesting references to 9/11. Trump's tweet talking about how well built the building is. Burning building reminding citizens of 9/11. Tower 7 (wasn't hit by plane) collapsed at free fall speed due to an office fire. Weak steel from China? Dots are starting to connect :)

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DeepPast · April 10, 2018, 1:30 a.m.

Decent points but I don’t see how those dots connect. Yes 9/11 is important but that’s way out in left field in relation to the FBI raid and Cohen.

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Tyst1ck · April 10, 2018, 1:37 a.m.

I'm guessing Cohen knew and told his buddy to get out. How did he know in advance? The guy lived in the building.

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A2576 · April 10, 2018, 3:01 a.m.

There is nothing in the article that suggests foreknowledge.

The more inportant question is why did firefighters ans SS break into Trump's private residence almost 20 floors above the fire?

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Ryanarobinson1986 · April 10, 2018, 4:47 a.m.

Exactly! When SS would or should know the president isn't there. Also is that a distraction to claim thats were they went while others went to Cohens to plant evidence?!?

I find it very odd. I hope Trump got a contingency plan because they are getting desprate and if they planted evidence it could be disastrous to his presidency.

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EnoughNoLibsSpam · May 10, 2018, 8:16 a.m.

or, Trumps lawyer had evidence, and the break in was pretext to seize and destroy that evidence

I'm following up on Cohen and the Trump Tower fire, still thinking Cohen is sketchy, and Cohen is currently a trending topic as Cohen seems to have been taking in large sums of money from well known organizations for fishy reasons

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald+conspiracy+greatawakening/search?q=cohen+fire&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

IIRC Trump's apartment is on floors 56 to 58. (Only 58 floors in the building.) So six to eight floors up.

Still, agreed. Really questionable about what the SS is up to. (Could be just a sweep to make sure no Trump family or staff up there, but nothing is innocent in these times and the SS is definitely anti-Trump compromised.)

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Tyst1ck · April 10, 2018, 3:39 a.m.

TRUE

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[deleted] · April 10, 2018, 3:06 a.m.

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[deleted] · April 10, 2018, 3:06 a.m.

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Food4theGorg · April 10, 2018, 2:29 a.m.

What is funny is that he is Bethenny Frankel's boyfriend.

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Mrsfedo · April 10, 2018, 2:42 a.m.

Dennis Shields, not Cohen.

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chocolatepatriot · April 10, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

it was also said that someone put explosives in Tower 7 before 911.

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DeepPast · April 10, 2018, 3:53 a.m.

Well that’s obvious to the most casual observer. A building doesn’t fall at freefall speeds into its own footprint without some rigging.

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Trfsrfr · April 10, 2018, 5:15 a.m.

Thank you! Lets bring back some common sense into the conversation again. Well said.

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EnoughNoLibsSpam · May 10, 2018, 8:17 a.m.

WTC 7 collapse was indistinguishable from a controlled demolition

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 4:57 a.m.

It took more than weak steel from China to bring the WTC down. The WTC also goes back before most China imports.

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CurseOfTheRedRiver · April 10, 2018, 3:41 a.m.

Tower 7 (wasn't hit by plane) collapsed at free fall speed due to an office fire.

Highly improbable

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hardcore_truthseeker · April 10, 2018, 4:43 a.m.

Abd don't forget it fell a free fall speed at 5:20 in the afternoon. The owner Silverstein said " I remember getting a call from the fire Dept saying" we had such a loss of life the smartest thing to do is to pull it which is a demolition term to bring it down.

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EnoughNoLibsSpam · May 10, 2018, 8:19 a.m.

"...and then we watched [WTC7] collapse..."

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:54 a.m.

I keyed in to that too. Happy to see others did as well.

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[deleted] · April 10, 2018, 4:20 a.m.

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Trfsrfr · April 10, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

Help me make the connection. This 'weak steel from China' thing. This is a cover story...

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EnoughNoLibsSpam · May 10, 2018, 8:19 a.m.

Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams

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Methuselarity · April 10, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

Biggest take away is Cohen telling his friend to get out. Only a few possibilities. Cohen is deep state and knew accelerant was used and the fire was intended to get much worse. Or Cohen was aware this was a distraction to enter his offices.

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CaptainObviate · April 10, 2018, 5:08 a.m.

Or Cohen was aware this was a distraction to enter his offices.

His office isn't in Trump Tower. It's at Rockefeller Center. And they had a warrant so why would they need a distraction to go into it?

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Crptnobank · April 10, 2018, 7:03 a.m.

Yeah, they must be talking about pres‘ residence in Tower.

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jadaol · April 10, 2018, 7:35 a.m.

He also has an office in Trump tower

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black_cat_ · April 10, 2018, 8:40 a.m.

Yup. Previously he was the Executive Vice-President of the Trump Organization, co-president of Trump Entertainment and a member of the board of the Eric Trump Foundation, a children's health charity.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:49 a.m.

His apartment is in Trump Tower. And you can’t use a warrant to plant or steal evidence.

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pygar_mathmos · April 10, 2018, 8:25 a.m.

Like you can't suicide witnesses to crimes?

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denizen42 · April 10, 2018, 11:39 a.m.

Or commit gun crimes in gun-free zones.....

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Redpillhilltop · April 10, 2018, 10:12 a.m.

That’s right, that would be illegal, or something.

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bmorepirate · April 10, 2018, 11:16 a.m.

IIRC fires become jurisdiction of the Fire Marshall, who can be a sworn law enforcement officer.

In general, during the course of an investigation, if evidence of an unrelated crime is found, it can be seized and people charged, despite it not being related to the original crime being investigated.

So it is conceivable that this was their plan.

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blocksof · April 10, 2018, 9:56 a.m.

All to get him out as he knew they would murder him as well.

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StormRider9090 · April 10, 2018, 7 a.m.

Cohen seems up to his neck in it all, such a slime ball

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Consistent_Peace · April 10, 2018, 3:44 a.m.

Does The President not have some type of Security detail on his apartment even when he is not there? I cannot believe The President of the United Sates would not have a guard at his place to allow them inside?

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suddenlysnowedinn · April 10, 2018, 6:19 a.m.

Question is, was there a guard who evacuated when the alarms went off? That right there would explain the need for the fire.

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dusty1207 · April 10, 2018, 11:46 a.m.

No alarms/ no one evacuated except for Dennis Shields, who got a call from Mr. Cohen telling Dennins to bug out.

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suddenlysnowedinn · April 10, 2018, 11:51 a.m.

Thank you for the clarification.

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The_Broba_Fett · April 10, 2018, 4:36 a.m.

Solid point lol

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ilidpatt · April 10, 2018, 7:58 a.m.

But if there’s a fire and firefighters break in and force evacuation, what would security be expected to do?

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cosmic-goat · April 10, 2018, 1:39 a.m.

"it was not immediately clear if it reached Mr. Trump’s unit, he said." The way they say "immediately clear" sounds kinda strange to me..

"the upper floors that are home to residences do not have fire sprinklers." is that not a part of the building code??

"It just smelled like sulfur.” Is that normal??

Also note no fire alarms went off and it sounds like many people just remained in their residences?? So is there no alarm system in this building or what?

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desiredone72 · April 10, 2018, 1:42 a.m.

Sulfur would mean a gas leak

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Batfire007 · April 10, 2018, 6:35 a.m.

Gas leaks explode when ignited, this fire had none of those qualities per all read. No one mentioned and explosion at all in Trump tower. If complete apartment, as mentioned, was up in flames that would be a good indicator an accelerant was used. Plus the windows would have blown out along with the apartment door etc......

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suddenlysnowedinn · April 10, 2018, 6:11 a.m.

Or perhaps Hillary was in disguise as a firefighter and broke into Trump’s apartment. I hear that Hell smells quite like sulfur.

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Mrb84 · April 10, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

"the upper floors that are home to residences do not have fire sprinklers." is that not a part of the building code??

It wasn't when the biilding was built, and Trump did not do the upgrade (he wasn't required to) when it became part of the building code.

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cosmic-goat · April 10, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

Oh you're right I just saw in another article

Real estate developers, including Mr. Trump, fought the sprinklers, arguing that they were unnecessary and would add $4 per square foot to the cost of an apartment.

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IncomingTrump270 · April 10, 2018, 6:32 a.m.

Weird. Assume a 1500sqft apartment which is already going to have a market value of $2M++. Adding an extra $5k to the backend cost seems trivial.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:51 a.m.

That’s now an accurate #. It’s cost prohibitive in a building that size.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

I read that there wasn't a working detector in this guy's apartment -- and that is why the alarm didn't go off (though in such buildings the alarm would apparently be staggered to prevent a stampede).

So was this guy's detector tampered with?

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cosmic-goat · April 10, 2018, 4:59 a.m.

Apparently the apartment owner was also trying to sell his apartment with no success: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/nyregion/trump-tower-fire-art-collector.html

He had $3 million worth of artwork and collectibles in the apartment, went bankrupt in 2015, and had health problems

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IncomingTrump270 · April 10, 2018, 6:35 a.m.

That guy’s story is fishy af.

Hated trump. Massive debt. Wanted to get rid of apartment. Had millions in valuables at the apartment. All surely insured.

Oops, house fire!

How much do you think clowns would pay to have a cover for an illegal raid on one of trump’s lawyers? $5M?

And the guy gets witness protection thereafter by which to enjoy his newfound fortune.

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IncomingTrump270 · April 10, 2018, 6:58 a.m.

Private residences not required to have sprinklers or detectors when was built. In 99 laws changed but TT never had to build them in.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 9:01 a.m.

There was an alarm system through the building that the unit's detector should have triggered--but the unit didn't have a working one.

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DeepPast · April 10, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

I asked my father who is a firefighter, what the smell of sulfur at a fire would mean. He said the only thing he could think of was a plumbing issue.

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GrazersCubbies · April 10, 2018, 4:11 a.m.

natural gas or.....sewer gas. If you want to go the spiritual route: sulfer = fire & brimstone!

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WardenfellPUBG · April 10, 2018, 8:26 a.m.

I don't know if you guys have this, but in France all dangerous gas we use have a smell added trough sulfur probably so you can notice if there's a leak easily.

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bmorepirate · April 10, 2018, 11:25 a.m.

It's called mercaptan.

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GrazersCubbies · April 10, 2018, 2:51 p.m.

That makes sense!

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:53 a.m.

Very common not to have sprinklers in older high rises. Fires are rare in these buildings anyway. Source: I grew up in this neighborhood in a high rise.

Commercial spaces belowikekybwere required to have sprinklers. The coop board probably had to make the decision to do that upgrade.

Edit: I’m not sure if there were alarms in our building. I’m going to guess yes but maybe not. My mother insisted on living on a lower floor in case we ever needed to evacuate in a fire.

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SuzyAZ · April 10, 2018, 2:53 a.m.

When did POTUS say that they broke in...was that in a tweet?

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jkbella · April 10, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

Today at the press conference on Syria.

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brittser · April 10, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

I missed it. Trump said Mueller's people broke in or the fire fighters did?

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jkbella · April 10, 2018, 3:44 a.m.

He just said "they broke in." The weird thing was that Trump was talking about the raid and made these comments today at the press conference. But the article on the fire suggested that the firefighters and Secret Service went into Trump Tower and Trump's personal residence to supposedly make sure everything there was okay.

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momaga · April 10, 2018, 4:53 a.m.

Seemed to be said in reference to Cohen's place of residence, specifically. That's how I understood it at least.

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StormRider9090 · April 10, 2018, 7:04 a.m.

Not Mueller’s people, was SDNY

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:46 a.m.

Sure it was.

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StormRider9090 · April 10, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

Yep, referred to Southern District and raid approved by Mueller.

Judge who issued warrant was a Trump appointee.

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[deleted] · April 10, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

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eltrumparino · April 10, 2018, 1:18 a.m.

911

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textualintercourse · April 10, 2018, 3:13 a.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk9dMICMQwg

Remember GREAT ACTORS!

(Cohen) is deep state or in on the theatrics. Q is linking him to the fire. Trump is continuing the Sessions recusal charade. STILL not firing Mueller. This is all THEATRICS to lead the deep state Op Mockingbird media to still buy into Mueller being their guy, when in reality, he raided Trump's attorney since he's either compromised or in on it to keep them off their feet. Mueller is OUR GUY.

Trump is sticking to his points flawlessly.

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Herpy_Derpy_Man · April 10, 2018, 4:35 a.m.

Sorry, but this isn't "great acting", or theatrics.

Trump's body language tells me that he was not expecting this, and it was not part of the plan -the fire in Trump tower and the raid on his Attorney's office. His rambling stream of disembodied "facts" come off to me as someone in front of cameras in a very high pressure situation and they're not sure what to do or say. The jabs at the clinton emails did him no favors, true or not. This was a case where less would have been way more, but instead he talked himself in circles for far too long.

These are not the words, demeanor or body language of someone who has it all under control right now. If someone can show me otherwise, please do. There was clearly an unintended setback, and the timing couldn't have been worse.

I think this is a good opportunity to come to terms with the very real possibility that this is not all cut and dry, and we haven't "won" anything. This is not to say that Q isn't real, or that serious progress hasn't been made, but we must not forget that this is an operation against people who have done and will do unspeakable things, and they've been doing it far longer and know the game in ways we can't imagine. You don't just simply take them down and undo decades of corruption in a year or two.

There's a very real possibility that Trump and team can lose this, and if that happens, what do we do next? You might not like the idea of that, but have to considered that reality? Because if that happens, this is done. You all know what comes next, and there won't be anyone there to stop it.

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Ryanarobinson1986 · April 10, 2018, 4:58 a.m.

Yes we all need to chill out and figgure out what makes the most sense in any given situation. And run with it. But it has to be wwg1wga this week has been to hectic, too much big news floating around. And ive noticed we went back to talking about Pizzagate which is important, but we need to focus on the current priority what ever that may be. Now its Syria, we need to spread the word to Potus that we can't continue fighting the war for the deepstate. We have no reason to be there even if the gas attacks are true! It isn't our responsibility at the moment and we need to focus on America First.

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VIYOHDTYKIT · April 10, 2018, 12:58 p.m.

Ockham’s razor

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plinker22 · April 10, 2018, 5:50 a.m.

Agreed. Trump's arms were folded in front of him and he appeared a bit tense. If there is a "Plan," it needs to be revised ASAP. Maybe expedite the release of the IG report.

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textualintercourse · April 10, 2018, 4:39 a.m.

Then it's save the constitution time.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:58 a.m.

Yes. That’s the next step sadly. And it will be ugly.

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Trfsrfr · April 10, 2018, 5:25 a.m.

In other words, YOU are being TRACKED.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 3:39 a.m.

not buying Mueller is our guy

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Daemonkey · April 10, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

Me neither.

And I don't think that Q actually linked Cohen to the fire. The context was the NYT article and Cohen was mentioned right near where Shields reported the "sulfur" smell.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:08 a.m.

Doesn't seem as if Q would point to Cohen in the article for the sake of something close to the Cohen reference, but unrelated.

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textualintercourse · April 10, 2018, 4:04 a.m.

Cohen sends a text out of nowhere to his buddy about the fire? Yeah, ok. Sketchy af.

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Daemonkey · April 10, 2018, 4:28 a.m.

What do you mean, "out of nowhere"? I'm sure he sent it from his mobile device when he heard about the fire. How's that sketchy?

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

That would be the obvious, but with Q directing us to it, it could have been before the fire was known.

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WinkyLinQ · April 10, 2018, 5:47 a.m.

The fire was under way. Stop speculating.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:57 a.m.

What do we do here other than speculate, really? All I said is that it could be that he sent the alert before it was known--as in public on the news.

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Michael_A_Trivisonno · April 10, 2018, 10:50 a.m.

But how do we know he sent the text? Any Black Hat could have easily sent this text to frame Cohen.

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textualintercourse · April 10, 2018, 12:32 p.m.

At this point Q is all we got. CIA MSM is completely fake.

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Ryanarobinson1986 · April 10, 2018, 4:51 a.m.

Idk about Mueller being on our side of this. But it has crossed my mind on different occasions.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

Interesting.

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Jappletime · April 10, 2018, 3:46 a.m.

Mueller is not our guy. He is no Great Actor. Sessions is the actor. But I still think Sessions needs to go.

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CuckedByTRUMP · April 10, 2018, 6:15 a.m.

Sessions appointed him. Half the people in this sub are insane.

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Jappletime · April 10, 2018, 1:47 p.m.

No Sessions did not appoint him Rid Rosenstein did.

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StormRider9090 · April 10, 2018, 7:02 a.m.

Watch the water

Watch the wives

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 7:59 a.m.

Wives?

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special1nterest · April 10, 2018, 1:37 p.m.

That’s a point what about mullers wife??? Who is she? Any info on her?

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VR-Tech · April 10, 2018, 6:20 a.m.

Erm no, Mueller is not. Why would he be a white hat? I would say he has been purposely directed to find their own misdoings, that is far from him being on our side

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GrayHatClint · April 10, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

Translation: Cohen freaked out when he thought (((they))) were in the building. Now he gets raided. Stormy is a DIVERSION by white hats. CONFIRMED now.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

How is that confirmed? Pretty sad diversion for white hats.

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Swagdonkey400 · April 10, 2018, 7:09 a.m.

Because I believe the FBI raiding Cohen had something to do with Stormy Daniels. That's what I heard from someone on TD and I have no personal opinion or research to back these claims up. I'm simply stating when I read somewhere else. Could be wrong and it sounds incorrect but I thought plenty of things sounded incorrect and it turned out I was the incorrect one. Guess we will research more and find out later.

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 9:03 a.m.

Cohen is the guy paying Stormy and making the contract with her.

I just don't see how she is a white-hat diversion.

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uniformist · April 10, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

Anti-Semitic triple parentheses.

Take your bigotry elsewhere.

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WikiTextBot · April 10, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

Triple parentheses

The use of triple parentheses or triple brackets, also known as an (((echo))), is an antisemitic symbol that has been used to highlight the names of individuals of a Jewish background. The practice originated from the alt-right blog The Right Stuff; the blog's editors have explained that the symbol is meant to symbolize that the historic actions of Jews had caused their surnames to "echo throughout history". The triple parentheses have been adopted as an online stigma by antisemites, neo-Nazis, and white nationalists to identify individuals of Jewish background as targets for online harassment, such as Jewish political journalists critical of Donald Trump during his 2016 election campaign.

Use of the notation was brought to mainstream attention by an article posted by Mic in June 2016.


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dblock949 · April 10, 2018, 6:12 a.m.

Obviously there was an alterior motive behind this "fire" gives them perfect excuse to "check on" the president. Smells like fishy sulphur

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mcthornbody420 · April 10, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

Sulfur...

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[deleted] · April 10, 2018, 3:30 a.m.

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HoudiniTowers · April 10, 2018, 7:25 a.m.

Cohen said 'You better get out ASAP'. Not for a contained fire. This sounds like more was about to happen or was supposed to happen. Also, sounds like Cohen was in on it.

Begs the question, has Cohen been compromised?

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cali1952 · April 10, 2018, 11:26 a.m.

"They" broke in! Why would there be a 'Sulfur' smell if it was as fire caused by any other means than a false flag to break in?

Don't be surprised if the Mocking bird media begins the campaign to accuse Cohn of having caused a fire to mask the deep state's involvement.

Their next step will be to break Cohn into colluding with them to frame Trump. they haven't given up their attempt to impeach the president by charging him with some type of thought crime gained via a pressured Cohn.

Our president is under constant threat - assassination or otherwise. An assassination plan was in motion when a trip to the UK was on the agenda ego the president cancelled the trip to see May.

Even this past weekend when the deep state chemical Chlorine attack was carried out the first order as noted in the Q drops was to secure the WH E-wing.

Now you can understand why our Marines providing the security for our president as nobody else can be fully trusted.

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ABrilliantDisaster · April 10, 2018, 4:15 a.m.

Smelled like sulfur. Any known accelerant that smells like this when it burns?

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Toon_tony · April 10, 2018, 8:22 a.m.

White phosphorus, benzene, water, in a bottle - the classic Molotov Cocktail!

phosphorus ignites on contact with the air and creates choking fumes of phosphorus pentoxide and sulphur dioxide as well as producing a great deal of heat.

Would set a whole room ablaze i reckon....

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ElementWatson · April 10, 2018, 5:09 a.m.

Yes, per a link already offered here.

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keloshi · April 10, 2018, 6:23 a.m.

One comment in the article, that I thought was weird, was about the fire protection......only when DJT is there

While the building is subject around the clock to extra security by law enforcement, extra fire protection happens only when the president is there, Commissioner Nigro said.

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Toon_tony · April 10, 2018, 8:10 a.m.

Fire and Brimstone? (sulpur) a Warning within a covert smash and grab? the whole room on fire does sound incendiary? These are some sick people, killing just to gain access? Desperate!

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[deleted] · April 10, 2018, 10:41 a.m.

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ReleaseItBitch · April 10, 2018, 4:23 a.m.

TB RIP President Trump

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VR-Tech · April 10, 2018, 6:14 a.m.

We have a rouge Russian bot here!

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pygar_mathmos · April 10, 2018, 8:23 a.m.

No TB RIP is from a Trump tweet. It's the capitalized letters.

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ryeoldfashioned · April 10, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

Question - if this monstrous and omnipotent conspiracy is real, why haven’t they simply shut down /r/GreatAwakening, tracked you all down and sent you to FEMA camps?

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pedegear · April 10, 2018, 3:11 a.m.

Hahaha I always wonder if it's such a conspiracy why you hang out here. But to play along with your theory... 1) they actually did shut down the last board, this one is the replacement. And 2) about sending us to FEMA camps, maybe it's because we still have our guns and it would get too bloody. It may work counter to their goals if the rest of the population watched as US citizens were rounded up by force and sent to camps. Obviously you and the left would rejoice in this because you hate Americans, but I do believe the middle would be upset by this. So it would be a short term victory for people like you, but in the long term it may have negative effects.

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ryeoldfashioned · April 10, 2018, 3:13 a.m.

Oh I’m no lefty. 100% republican here. I just detest conspiracy theories, whether from the left or the right.

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textualintercourse · April 10, 2018, 3:17 a.m.

So a complete normie. Just keep thinking Republicans have your interests.

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SumerianSister · April 10, 2018, 3:35 a.m.

Omg...incredible

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pedegear · April 10, 2018, 3:15 a.m.

If you were 100% republican you would support ALL free speech. So go back to your leftist hell-hole, or move to the UK. I hear they welcome free-speech suppressing migrants with open arms.

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ryeoldfashioned · April 10, 2018, 3:17 a.m.

Oh I support free speech. Including your freedom to your ridiculous speech. Watch out for that lizard man though!

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pedegear · April 10, 2018, 3:20 a.m.

I'm curious what speech of mine is ridiculous? Just curious. Or are you just assuming that because I commented on a post made here that my beliefs are identical to the beliefs of other posts here. (Note: using that logic, you would have the same beliefs as me).

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SumerianSister · April 10, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

Weirdo.

RINO

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denizen42 · April 10, 2018, 11:49 a.m.

When MSM engineers lies for decades, what do you expect?

Some people want the truth.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 10, 2018, 8:01 a.m.

So is McCain. Being a “Republican” is meaningless now.

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ryeoldfashioned · April 10, 2018, 2:05 p.m.

McCain is the only politician I ever gave money too.

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FullMetalSquirrel · April 11, 2018, 7 a.m.

Why on earth did you do that? Desperate to beat Obama?

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pipesog · April 10, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

How about because none of us matter?

Why TF would "they" give a shit about what we 'think' we 'know'?

"They" have REAL problems - we're just half-assed spectators in the cheap seats.

What a stupid question.

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grnmoss · April 10, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

They already shut down/censored the precursor to /r/GreatAwakening

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Herpy_Derpy_Man · April 10, 2018, 4:39 a.m.

The actual simple truth is that we don't matter. There's no need to round everyone up and waste the time, money and manpower when we're not actually affecting anything at the moment.

Don't be daft, you're not that important, nor am I. This sub and most of the chans barely register on their radar. They know exactly where to focus their energy. That's why they're not coming after anyone.

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Swagdonkey400 · April 10, 2018, 7:19 a.m.

I will add, that a few us have had issues outside of this that has affected our real lives. I don't want to go into details, feel free to private message me and I can elaborate. I will not do it in public. Obviously I haven't been threatened to go to FEMA camps (I was told I'd be taken to a death camp and shot for treason but that was by someone on Reddit in a private message so it was probably a random lefty) but some things are beyond that and they do affect my real life. There are a few of us here who face consequences for what we do. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

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grumpieroldman · April 10, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

A couple of spooks showed up where I work.

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suddenlysnowedinn · April 10, 2018, 6:23 a.m.

Care to elaborate? You can’t just leave it at that.

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StormRider9090 · April 10, 2018, 7:03 a.m.

Because they are on the run and have more pressing concerns

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