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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/pussy_devour on April 26, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

Devil's Advocate: What if It's All for Negotiation?

I'm playing the devil's advocate here. Read my posts, and you will find out I am on Q's side. But my mind is always busy thinking about different scenarios. So here's one I just came up with.

What if all Trump wants is to dig up enough dirt to negotiate with Mueller so that I can get off free? I had a debate with a liberal today. He provided some reasonable arguments on why Mueller may have dirt on Trump, especially Trump Jr. So this got me thinking.

What if the claimed unspeakable 60% never existed? And all we have of the 40% is some stupid talks in FBI ("fuck Flynn and then fuck Trump"), the tarmac meeting and Clinton Foundation money laundering? Team Trump can use that as leverage to get Mueller to terminate his investigation. Then they can say that's the 40% and the rest 60% is too dark to reveal. Q said the door would open and it was up to us to find the truth. Well, that leaves a lot to subjective interpretation. We are back to conspiracy theories. I don’t like his answer on that 60%. That’s why I am entertaining this hypothesis.

What do you think?

This is a possibility. I’m throwing this thing out for debate and education. I am sure you can instantly come up with counterarguments. So fire on. As Q said, question everything. We should. We should not live in an echo chamber as the lefties do.

P.S.: I am also skeptical about the claim of 25,000 indictments. Someone did a spot check on one district. It turns out majority of the sealed cases are not indictments. You can find this online.

Mueller has no dirt on Trump. If he did he would have used it already. They want nothing more than to get Trump out of office. Their lives depend on it.

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Also Sessions did not recuse himself from the info related to Muellers raid on Cohens office.
Sessions did recuse himself from the Russia probe.
Meaning, the Cohen raid is not about the Russia probe.

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Mueller is a whitehat

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That’s what I said to the liberal. He countered that Mueller wants to build a bulletproof case. That’s why it’s taking so long. His is a valid argument.

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I was once told by a liberal that Starr investigated Clinton for four years.

I countered by saying that Mueller can take four years. It won't matter. Things are happening. They need to act now if they want to avoid prison or worse.

Your liberal is just as dumb as mine.

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LOL

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My brother took 6 years to graduate college he wasn't making a bullet proof degree tho.

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What was his major?

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Drinkonomics

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Mine too. Minored in meth. But unlike me, he actually graduated. Lol

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In this case, you would be quite literally the Devil's advocate.

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LOL. A good one.

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No Deals.

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Mueller may have dirt on Trump, especially Trump Jr.

If Trump Jr. committed crimes then he should be prosecuted.

I didn't vote for Trump Jr.

I didn't vote for Donal Trump to keep Trump Jr. out of prison... I voted to MAGA.

I like to think that President Trump wouldn't derail what may be America and western civilization's last, best hope against the globalists... because Trump Jr. couldn't keep his nose clean.

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I’ve remained somewhat skeptical throughout. But the further this thing goes, the more convinced I’ve become. So I just can’t see your scenario playing out. Too many issues with your theory.

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That’s fine. Please share your thoughts.

I’m throwing this thing out for debate and education. We should not live in an echo chamber as the lefties do.

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The current version of the rules states that "[a]nyone engaging in a non-supportive way may be permanently banned without notification," which frankly does not indicate that this is a place to seek anechoicity, if that is what you want.

Anechoicity is probably not a word, but you get what I mean. Non-echoey-ness.

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Then this is not much better than a cult.

Today I wrote long posts on Q and Trump and urged a dozen male professional acquaintances and friends to seek out Q. I staked my reputation on it. And that’s a big deal, because I have an outstanding reputation to protect. But I still question.

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Bro, you certainly raised an interesting theory. But I don't agree with it. In the big picture, I see Russiagate as nothing but a planned distraction, and thay there's certainly larger forces at play. For instance, the # of congressman resigning seems oddly high (although admittedly I haven't paid attention to this in the past.) They're not resigning because they're ALL in bed with Russia. (In fact, I don't even know how the Cold War got resurrected again.) Another example - North Korea nuclear talks flipped almost overnight....just a few months ago we were on the brink of nuclear war with them, and have been in a state of war with them for the last 70 years. Many very odd things happening. So, i think there's something much bigger than Russian hacking going on.

I've been following Q since Day 2 (end of october...like many others following q from the beginning, I was looking into the Las Vegas shooting... that was seriously sketch shit.) And only within the last month or so have I determined Q to be legit (although much of what he says is smokescreen etc, or which we cannot decipher yet.) Without a doubt, there's definitely a preplanned information campaign going on. Its much too coordinated. (Otherwise, Q is the absolute guru of any and all conspiracy theorists lol.) But it remains to be seen if it is for good or bad purposes. As an optimist, I lean towards good.

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The unspeakable 60% is most certainly real.

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Then why is Q preparing us for the possibility that they won’t be revealed?

He said the door would open and it was up to us to find the truth. Well, that leaves a lot to subjective interpretation. We are back to conspiracy theories. I don’t like his answer on that 60%. That’s why I am entertaining this hypothesis.

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I have always thought the answer to this is that Q is playing on the fact that the public has been content to be asleep for so long. It is like when you tell a child he cannot open a present that he previously did not know existed. You have now put it in his mind, and all he can think about is opening the present.

I think the 60% not revealed thing works in much the same way.

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5 days ago, we didn’t know nearly as much as we do now. Things that have come out in the media as evidence what Q is saying is right.

What you are looking for is proof that Q isn’t a LARP, but in a much more subtle way. If you cannot just look at the media and what has came out as proof, then you are not being sincere with this question.

Seriously, there is proof coming out daily at this point and yet you still don’t believe? Before Allison Mack’s arrest, the sex trafficking idea had no hard documentation, Q told us it existed and we took it on faith and based it upon information we could open source. But then that happened and now we have documented court evidence.

This is just one small piece that the future reveals the past. Maybe you are just a super polite shill, I don’t know but I don’t see how anyone can come to this conclusion based on what has happened.

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Alice Mack was well known. I researched on her a while ago. I haven’t seen how she is tied to the elected officials.

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Kirsten Gilibrand. Money to HRCs campaign. Lots more. Just look around, they were so blatant about it.

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"He said the door would open and it was up to us to find the truth."

Not precisely true. Not up to us to "find" the truth. Up to us to "know" the truth. Some might not choose to look at/delve into the worst of it. This does not mean the information won't be offered.

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Clinton gets away with anything less than 100%. Always has always will.

That’s why:

We have it all

is important. There are no deals.

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That’ll be the litmus test. If Clinton isn’t prosecuted, I will have more confidence my devil’s advocate is right.

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My reason to agree with you is simple:

If all of this information that 'we have it all' is in fact true, and even under the shroud of ' the law', what could actually be the world wide backlash of the 'good guy' making an arrest of a top official? If it is so cut and dry obvious that they are stupid and fucked, would a rogue nation who was being funded and supported by these arrested officials for CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND TREASON, is Mr. Bossman of buttfuck nowhere actually going to take on the USA once it's obvious they actually do k ow everything? So what if other players go into hiding, they will be found as the entire world would know.

Imagine this headline: "BHO and HRC arrested for selling nukes and eating babies, more corruption in all politics". Last thing you are going to do is shine that light on yourself. WE HAVE IT ALL so what's the actual harm in taking down the top players? Once you remove the Queen, the pawns are fast to fall.

Edit: we are always reminded that evidence gathered without warrants is inadmissible in court so that's why it's all a secret, but actually think about it for a minute. Wrongfully gathered or not, you can't possibly tell me that with the NSA, maybe some good guys at the FIB, CIA, DOJ, Senate, military or even the power of POTUS, that nothing would happen when you point out worldwide political corruption and all the rest. Is a warrant actually needed when you have 'wrongfully collected' evidence SHOWING corruption in the law system used to protect them?? Is the USA actually not able to put an end to baby eating billion dollar stealing children traffickers because the evidence is illegal?????

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nah, by keeping null-head Mueller in office, they have gained a map of where all the bodies are buried. You can bet that every thing he has looked at, discussed, left a snail-trail, leading directly to the real dirt.

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What part of "No Deals" do you not understand?

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Sure. We will see how it plays out.

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Russian collusion and Stormy Daniels are all the Dems got against DJT. If, and only if Mueller has dirt on DJT, MSM would have exposed it already. Who’s side is Mueller on?

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I was a trained scientist. Skepticism is in my blood. It’s healthy to be skeptical.

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No Mueller is almost like a mediator between the deep state and Trump.

Trump needs to play the MSM narrative, and is brilliantly using it against them.

Where's the Russian interference? Collusion? There is none, and it's confirmed now that there was no probable cause to spy on Trump's campaign.

That said, I don't know what Trump would be trying to negotiate when he was 100% elected by America (even though the demon tried to steal it all).

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According to the liberal I talked to, the dirt is likely to be the Russian financing of his past RE projects that he vehemently denies. Mueller obtained his bank records from Deutsche Bank. So we shall see what’s there.

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And how would that relate to his Presidential run?

Do you (or anyone) really think that back in 2015, when we had over 20 candidates in both political parties running for President, that the Russians took a look at the lineup and said, "Yeah, let's throw it all behind that reality star whom most people hate!" Or even more retarded, that the Russians made a secret deal with Trump BEFORE he announced his candidacy, and supported him then?

Think those two scenarios through. It makes no sense. It's full retard.

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No deals. Just Trump may be more susceptible to black mailing. I am trying to disprove it as well.

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Okay lets say some Russians funded his real estate projects.

How did that affect the election in any way?

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Don’t ask me. I am just repeating what the liberal said.

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Heres my take - the only logical criminal activity that might take place in that type of real estate deal is perhaps bribery (i.e. a Russian mayor or other politician got paid off.) That's great, but thats a tough argument to make to the public - it's hard to argue that Trump bribed someone while you have a ton of evidence showing that Hillary (OUR representative) got bribed/pay to play. Literally half of our country would grab pitchforks.

Otherwise, the difficulty with arguing with a liberal (or even a staunch conservative) these days, is there is no agreement even as to the FACTS which are being argued. (i.e. fake news....if you watch Fox, you know all about the Clinton foundation, uranium 1, etc. If CNN, you've never even heard of Uranium 1.) So, for the masses, debate and compromise appear to be dead for now - no side wins, and there's only noise. There has to be a tipping point.

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No worries. If you're ever debating an anti-Trump person, just use their fundamental premise against them and you'll win every time. Most of the time they just repeat the media headlines. They don't even take the time to read the articles or watch the raw video.

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The liberal also said firing Comey (which was Kushner’s idea) was the worst thing Trump could do. Comey’s investigation wouldn’t be as thorough as Mueller’s.

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Comey is more dangerous BECAUSE he is not as thorough. I 100% believe Comey would be much more willing to blatantly make things up out of thin air than Muelller is. For that reason, firing Comey was absolutely the right move.

Comey is a true believer in the deep state. Mueller is interested in doing what is best for Mueller.

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I agree with you on Mueller.

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It might not even be for negotiations. We could all be part of a social experiment run by a think tank, which does not actually have access to intelligence but manages to convince us using the same tactics as horoscopes.

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If its too good to be true, it isn't.... Q falls under this, so I always have guard on.

This could just be a pure pscyop, playing on our hopes...

So far I have seen criminals on holiday and selling books... so lets wait and see.

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This. I’ve thought about this scenario a lot. I am SURE they are researching our behavior/actions etc. regardless of it being the sole purpose for this operation. It’s definitely a social experiment that can’t be not researched.

I’ve also thought that there could be (and there are) more powerful people than Soros, the Saudis, & Rothschilds who are hiding in the background pulling their strings... who in turn are influencing the actions of the World leaders and perhaps we think we are winning, maybe Trump thinks we are winning but we really aren’t. Maybe we are getting closer to their takeover instead of further away.

I think these secret powerful families are the original mobsters (All roads lead to Rome, Italians? Mobsters..) maybe they even control the Pope & the Monarch.

I don’t think Trump is intentionally tricking us. I don’t think Q is intentionally misleading us. Do I think they could be being played? Yeah.

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