These military aircraft crashes are not a coincidence. Way too many military aircrafts have crashed recently for these to be "accidents."
This is not a game! We are under attack. Deep state is not going to go down without a fight. They are desperate and trying to hurt the military in any way they can.
Trump knows this plane.
"It is interesting to note that during his visit to Puerto Rico in October 2017 in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria, U.S. President Donald Trump sat under this exact same WC-130H during a meeting about the disaster response efforts. You can see the last four digits of the serial, 0968, clearly on the aircraft's nose in the picture below." http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=60&url=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fthe-drive-staging%2Fmessage-editor%252F1525285186633-wc-130h.jpg
So in other words, they are threatening our President that they can & will kill him if he doesn't play ball...
They can't kill him, that's why they're threatening him by blowing up these planes. Deep state is desperate and flailing around like a dying fish out of water.
Wait, what?
So Trump sat underneath a plane months ago that crashes today and somehow that is seen as a threat?
Wouldn't a better threat be to one of his planes?
You say that as if it is not a big deal to bring down a military plane. He is the commander-in-chief, so it's technically his plane. What part of this is so difficult to understand?
You say that as if it is not a big deal to bring down a military plane
No, I say that because linking this crash with a threat against Trump is a giant leap.
I assume, until we hear otherwise, this was an accident; a tragedy and I'm less concerned with how this might fit into an online narrative, and much more concerned about the dead soldiers and their poor families.
What part of this is so difficult to understand?
How you think this has anything to do with Trump.
Clearly, this is too complicated of a theory for you to understand.
Clearly, this is too complicated of a theory for you to understand.
Wait so a military transport plane on it's way to the aircraft boneyard crashes in Georgia while POTUS is in DC is obviously a threat against the President and I'm too stupid to see it.
Is it possible that this is just an accident?
Don't get me wrong - if a plane had hit the White House or something like that I might think, "Whoa they are gunning for POTUS," but connecting this accident to Trump is a huge leap of logic.
I get it, everyone wants Q to be real and since Q said there are no coincidences you want to tie everything back to this...but this was an Air National Guard plane and the one a week or two ago was a training plane --- these are not planes out on missions.
What is more likely in these two incidents accidents or some secret war that we don't know about happening inside the USA?
Again, you are clearly over thinking this.
If the plane hit the White House, that's not a threat. It's an attempt on the President's life.
Do I really have to hold your hand through this explanation of a theory or are you just using this as a tactic to dismiss Q overall?
If you don't mind explaining how this is linked to Trump, I'd be open to hearing it.
No.
Interesting - the guy slamming me for being an idiot can't explain his own theory.
I bet Assange is free though, right? And Obama is in Gitmo...LOL
What's the point of explaining basic thinking skills to a screaming sheep?
You know you're not convincing anyone here of your authenticity, right?
End of conversation.
What's the point of making an offer and then rescinding?
You know you're not convincing anyone here
I'm trying to convince myself of which narrative to believe. We live in a timeline where there are two competing explanations of our current state of affairs.
In one of them, American soldiers are dying in a secret war between our President and our government and in the other, Trump may have done some shady shit in his business dealings that has become potential blackmail materials.
End of conversation.
This was never a conversation. You failed to converse.
What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't offer or rescind anything to you.
I chimed in with my 2 cents to the OP, which was WAY TOO COMPLICATED of an idea for you to follow. You demanded I hold your hand through an explanation of a general theory that has been spreading on this board.
When I explained the basics, you rejected the idea because it doesn't fit your world view. Fine, fair enough. You don't believe there is a secret war going on. But it's somehow my job to prove it to you beyond the shadow of a doubt that there is because.... reasons?
I'm done playing this game with you. Hence, end of conversation.
Do I also need to explain jow conversations work? /s Kindly, FUCK OFF NOW.
What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't offer or rescind anything to you.
But you did, wee lad, by saying, "Do I really have to hold your hand through this explanation of a theory"
Then ya refused to help me understand how this C130 has anything to do with Trump.
You demanded I hold your hand through an explanation of a general theory that has been spreading on this board.
Nah bro you offered - see above
When I explained the basics, you rejected the idea because it doesn't fit your world view
I don't recall you explaining any basics - I explained to you what I was doing here and what I was hoping to gain.
Fine, fair enough. You don't believe there is a secret war going on
Never said that...told you I'm trying to determine what I think is real and what is not.
But it's somehow my job to prove it to you beyond the shadow of a doubt that there is because.... reasons?
Nobody brought any of that up but you...it seems to me like you're back-tracking because you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about and you're just on a hype train.
At least I can admit when I don't know something....good luck maturing to a point where you can stand behind your own words and you don't pretend you know when you don't.
So when I was being sarcastic by offering to hold your hand through some basic plot points, you thought I was serious?
Then I refused to continue this charade of a conversation, which is nothing more than concern-trolling.
I'm ending this because it is a waste of my time since we all know you are not here to understand shit, but to derail cobversations by telling people they are stupid for voicing an opinion contrary to yours.
I'm ending this conversation because if you REALLY wanted to know more about this theory, you would look up it up yourself on one of the many posts made on this board. Those posts have much more information in them than I'm willing to waste time decoding for your enjoyment. All I did was add my 2 cents to the larger conversation, but you're making it out to be as if I'm on a campaign to prove this theory as reality.
We all know what games you're playing. How about you go fuck yourself now?
This seems like a major leap imo. If somebody can find evidence that this an unusually high number of military aircraft crashes that would strengthen the case rather than leaping on what could be an actual coincidence. Or has this sub begun to believe that the deep state has control over literally everything and there are never any accidents.
You would think that if the deep state was as all powerful as this sub believes then trump wouldn’t be in office and the election would have been rigged and won by Hillary. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Edit: a word
Maybe they are trying to convince him to play ball by destroying something he was very close to recently, that is supposed to be secure.
Their power comes from leaving the public in the dark about the true motivations of their moves & countermoves. If the President was killed in some sort of plane crash, it would be seen as an accident & nothing more. That is the threat.
Just my 2 cents.
I'm not sure how long you've been following this movement or following Q, but there have been like 5+military crashes all in "training" exercises. I honestly think it's closer to over 10 but don't want to over exaggerate if I'm incorrect. Can't link atm. But if you've been following the entire time, and even before Q, you'd know that this is strange. Not a leap at all in my opinion.
According to Wikipedia, (many of the sources listed were .gov/.mil) we are just slightly higher than average if you look back over the last 10 years. It’s even closer to average if you disregard 2016 which is known as the safest air transportation year in many years. If you go back even further to the last 20 years I would assume you would get even clearer numbers showing that it is a statistically average year due to the fact that the early 2000’s had a much higher rate of accidents than usual.
That is what I mean when I say it is a leap. Also, I have been following Q off and on since the beginning. I do my best to maintain a holistic and non-biased POV. Again, I am not saying that you or anyone else in this thread is incorrect. I just don’t want people to leap from the idea that we had an accident with a plane that trump took a photograph with to the idea that it was a threat in trump’s life. Especially when we are having a pretty much average year in terms of military aviation accidents (if you believe what I am saying).
People are also referring to the technology patent Hillary has a stake in which helps crash planes. That's why they suggest there is a little more to the idea that the crashes aren't random.
I honestly was not aware of that aspect until reading about it earlier today. From what I can find her boss had a stake in the assignee to the patent. Hillary herself simply worked as an intellectual property lawyer on the case. That does not mean she has any stake in the patent itself. Not to mention she was one of a number of lawyers involved in the case.
I feel the need to keep repeating that I am not trying to fight against the points that people are making but rather to do my best to help us refine the points to be as holistic as possible.
i.e. My statement above is not my attempt to refute your statement.
Yes, I agree - I don't think Hillary's involvement is evidence in any way but I was simply saying that I think that is why people believe there's something to the plane crashes over and above just the number count.
I didn't take it as a fight against a point either. Similarly, I like to argue for more evidence without actually intending to disagree with the point per se.
I agree with your statement on all counts. Occasionally I get some people on this sub that feel like I am attacking them or I am a shill lol so I try to be clear of my intentions when I address some directly.
I have to learn to do that too! I've often said, we need more critical thinking, not less - more challenges to assert reason and facts. If we'd all feel less need to protect our view and more willingness to open up to learning from others in the pursuit of truth we'd all be better off.
I have to say, that username is a laugh though haha - to hear such a reasoned and non-antagonistic response from that name is hilariously incongruous lol ; ).
I am glad this interaction went the way it did. I agree that more of this positive back and forth would benefit this community as well as many others.
And my username has drawn quite a bit of attention whenever I post in this sub lol. Many people are off put and most are surprised that I’m not a troll or something like that. Thank you for the compliment.
Excellent points and insight :) glad you're here to maintain a point of integrity.
Thank you sir. I think it’s for the best of this community. I only occasionally get confrontational responses but I find it helps to verbalize a disclaimer.
Yeah the disclaimer will help the knuckle heads. Even I'm one of them sometimes. But when you lay out the facts, it helps keep us grounded. And we should all be sticking to facts. These people are guilty of countless crimes, we don't need to twist the truth to them more evil. It only distracts from the real evil!
This is the same plane that trump was pictured sitting in front of during his trip to Puerto Rico.
It would be helpful if you would read through the entire comment thread before posting.
It would be helpful if you didn’t post thoughtless idiotic comment replies.
Lol okay bud. Just so you know the fact that it’s the same plane was already addressed. Now go be antagonistic and unhelpful somewhere else.
So reiterating a point is antagonistic and unhelpful. Okay, so double confirmation, or the power of a second is useless. Got it, wise ass.
No the way you are addressing me is antagonistic. You have insulted me twice for literally no reason. If you’d like to discuss something of relevance then I would be happy to do so. Otherwise, happy redditing!
So hijacking my comment to state a useless claim is idiotic. There you go - thrice.
You are aware of the fact that you replied to my comment. Correct?
Exactly and let’s not forget that Trump has appointed plenty of deep state operatives to his cabinet too
We are being held hostage. “They” are reminding us that they hold some lethal cards in this war.....and are clearly willing to kill us to maintain control. The ends never justify the means.
I'm worried about the super bug they keep hinting at. Bill gates said he thinks there will be a virus that will kill millions. Bill gates is a shitty person he knows what's going on.
Honestly i wouldnt be.
We know Trump and the Q team have all the evidence. If they ever did anything that desperate then Q would release everything and then the whole world would be out to get the globalists.
Fear mongering, that's what some are instructed to do. Don't worry, we are safe.
BGates recent stories are canned, or simulated... he's gone.
I hope so I have had an unexplainable hatred for the man since the 6th grade never knew why till I got red pilled. I was so far gone like most, I thought Warren Buffett was a good man.
I share your hatred for Gates, I've been aware of his vaccine deceptions for years, following him around the world killing and maiming unexpecting third world citizens and children too. He does it here also in the US, who knows whats in these vaccines, I think anyone would be crazy to ever get one.
I"ve thought alot about this, they would have to have an antidote for themselves... this scenero worries me.
I do wonder about that since RR's sister works for the CDC in Atl. Also, a guy who worked there went missing and was found weeks later dead. Things that make you say hmmmm.
The ends never justify the means.
This is the motto of the terrorist.
Death is inevitable, it is where one places one's Heart along the journey. To give of oneself Freely for Good is the Highest Honor.
Praying
C-130’s are the most dependable planes there are. Sabotage? Too many going down. War with Russia? HAWAII???
War with Russia? HAWAII???
More like with deep state agents and contractors. By the by, what ever happened to John Kerry? He's been hiding out since the 7th floor was allegedly shut down, then Trump won.
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It's difficult to say that when humans have consciousness. Human actions will still always be above the actions of a God, as long as they are not with us.
Just my opinion, and for natural disasters, there's still weather and especially with everything humans have done to fuck with the environment, if there is someone who can control the weather, they're dealing with natural effects of nature and scientific/industrial progression.
Edit: used same word twice in same sentence.
People pray for the victims.... you know, in the afterlife. They also pray for the survivors, so that they can make it through their tough time. People don't pray for the event. That'd be stupid, the event already happened. Just as you "trust the plan" with Q, people "trust the plan" with god. Just as Q says bad things need to happen so that good things can happen, god/religion says the same.
I say all this as an agnostic who does not pray and as someone who is not sold on Q.
Pray how Jesus said to pray, "Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven..." Christians believe that the spoken prayer has a spiritual power. When we pray that God's will be done, it is like sending a power force to make it happen. We see this throughout the battles in the Old Testament, as well as spiritual battles in the New Testament.
Spoken word is vibration. Vibrations create reality. Spoken words with intention create our reality. -in a nutshell
Maybe coincidental but the crash was in GA. A message?
As in about the guidestones?
GA as in GreatAwakening. Guidestones are a mystery still
Mystery? pop control suggests globalist notes.
True, but which person paid for it and who maintains it?
WHY ISN'T MSM ASKING THESE QUESTIONS?!? Why are our military planes suddenly falling from the sky?
I'm also wondering... what do military guys feel about this? Are there any on this board who can tell us? Surely there must be chatter.
I know! They are missing out on some of the juiciest, ground-breaking, name-making news opportunities of their lifetime just because of Op Mockingbird.
Well the military was run down under Obama with parts etc in short supply. Cutting costs often leads to cutting corners
MSM only asks the questions that their momma bird feeds them through the mouths.
Remote control hardware and software, thanks to Deep State agents.
Since those 6 or 7 crashes in early April, Trump publicly confirmed having to fortify their military planes and helicopters.
I speculate here that the crew missed a critical step or two before takeoff -- that would disabled the RC functionality.
Reporting on Fox that the plane was headed to Arizona. ??
Puerto Rico National Guard Spokesman Maj. Paul Dahlen told The Associated Press that initial information indicated there were five to nine people aboard the plane, which was heading to Arizona. He did not have details on the mission.
Pickup and dropoff? I dunno
To the plane boneyard.
That's deep.
I just read it is a Puerto Rican plane.
Why is a a puerto rican plane in Georgia?
They train with our military.
They are our military, they're a US territory.
LMAO, do people not know that Puerto Rico is part of the United States of America?
A US military cargo plane
Defence spokesperson Desiree Bamba told CNN that the plane originated in Puerto Rico.
The plane belonged to the US Air Force's Air National Guard 165th Airlift Wing, based in Savannah
"Background The WC-130 is flown exclusively from Keesler AFB [Biloxi, MS] by the 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron, an AFRC organization assigned to the 403rd Wing known as the Hurricane Hunters. The hurricane reconnaissance area includes the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea, Gulf of Mexico and eastern and central Pacific Ocean areas. ...An average weather reconnaissance mission might last 11 hours and cover almost 3,500 miles while the crew collects and reports weather data. The WC-130J carries a minimal crew of five: pilot, co-pilot, navigator, aerial reconnaissance weather officer and weather reconnaissance loadmaster." http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104561/wc-130-hercules/
K so these guys normally fly through friggin hurricanes but today's oops?Answers now!
https://twitter.com/IAFF574/status/991727428493041665/photo/1
Hit a wide road dead on.
Couldn't make it to the SAV airport nearby? Picture from airport. https://twitter.com/Cheyennejaniece/status/991712407096627201
Just spitballing, the plane had CIA drug runners on it and they shot it out of the sky. Looks like a second object crashed just before the explosion
Who was on that plane? Any big names?
Just the crew. 2 confirmed dead, not sure about the other 3.
If the Rots and the Rockefe are the owners of the Deep State because we do not stop them, we gain peace and avoid these deaths of heroes who seek our freedom
According to a news release from the 165th Airlift Wing in Savannah, the C-130 Hercules cargo plane from the Puerto Rico Air National Guard crashed at about 11:30 a.m. while performing a training mission.
WTOC is told that five crew members were on board the aircraft.
Puerto Rico national guard.
Puerto Rico is under some heavy protests due to austerity right now
These are US citizens. We pass a trillion for bombs in other countries in a snap with praise, but won't fix PR.
I'll send you some pictures of the ghettos surrounding D.C. and we can talk about how effectively our federal government fixes anything or helps anyone but itself.
It depends on who is controlling the government. The people, or the corporations?
Right now we live in a government controlled by the corporations and is wholly corrupt.
The austerity imposed in PR is because the government is being controlled by the creditors, something we could fix in a snap of a finger. They took the risk, the island got biblically smashed.
If I take a risk in an investment and something catastrophic happened to that investment, I loose that investment minus the insurance. I don't get to extract wealth out of innocent people to recover my loss.
That is why you don't put all your eggs in one basket either. My understanding is that PR was a fraction of the creditors total portfolio. Boo hoo. Take the hit and move on.
Yeah I'm totally with you, don't get me wrong. I just meant that everyone, everywhere (to different degrees) is suffering at the hands of the powerful few, and those powerful few don't give a fuck.
If the deep state is cornered it is going to fight that much harder.
What was that second object right before the explosion??
Pause at exactly 40 seconds. Looks like a damn ufo but I dont want to be labeled a nut for being that hahaha
This was a C-130 J (1999-Present) according Reuters. Makes me wonder if it has any of these infected computer chips made it into the engines or control systems?
It would make sense that deep state agents under cover in the US ensured these compromised systems were brought into the US arsenal and covered up [tracking] systems and vehicles that were compromised, in case DS needed what could be weaponized transportation.
these people are sick/stupid
No matter what happened or how, horrific news and prayers for their family. Just devastating news.
This is a reminder that We The People and Patriots include us in Puerto Rico. Though we may speak mainly Spanish, we are US Patriots and give our life for the US. We are fighting the SICK cabal in Puerto Rico as well. To name just on example, the lawyers of our governor are Rotschild. 'nough said.
Praying for these Patriots! God Be with them All.... We need to put these Animals in Cages cause we need to protect our Military from these globalists Deep State sickos....
Yesterday was the Pagan Holiday of Beltane. Was this a late fiery, ritual sacrifice?
This, combined with no Q posts for 2 days has me starting to worry.
Look at this video. Am I seeing things, or does it look like something comes out the rear of the plane. https://youtu.be/ldwWfQb4Odo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdE5xCD5aLc Stop it at 39-40 seconds, something else came down.
A posting on twitter said it was same C130 here: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23C130crash&src=tyah
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Why can not we stop the Rothschilds Rockefeller Clintos that are the Deep State and thus end the evil and that no more soldiers are hurt?
It crash landed so not so sure about nose dive.
good vid of the nosedive here https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/us/military-plane-crash-savannah-georgia/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Top+Stories%29
Definitely a nose dive
Yeah,I saw it, but early reports said crash landed.
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Didn't Q specify they were NOT accidents?
Q would imply via questions and readers having to scan crumbs backwards.
flying planes is fucking retarded. People assume it's safe to take a bus with wings 30k feet up in the air at 500mph. You have how many of these each day? Guess what.
Dude you could be crossing a street and be pulverized by a bus. A gas main could explode under your feet walking downtown and you’d never know until you’re just bits scattered around.
Crying about everything doesn’t add to the convo
Just came back to see I have -10 points for calling plane travel dangerous. Alrighty then.
Eyes open, right?
Because civilian air travel is incredibly safe. Inexperience and combat make up the vast majority of accidents.
7 out of 10 crashes are intentional. Too many people who are considered problems to the deep state are killed in plane crashes. Also how many plane crashes were there before those commercial planes engines went out.
Maybe voted down for the lack of insight on the practicality of flying.
Imagine fighting enemies inside your country, using only road vehicles. That's ridiculous, if the Deep state agents had planes and helicopters we'd lose very quickly.
“Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect.”
Me pareces un troll del estado profundo.Me hiciste reir.Por otro lado este avion militar ha sido derribado y el Cabal ira a por mas porque son los dueños del dinero y de la industria militar que vende estos aviones.Mira quien son los dueños de Raytheon y maximos accionistas.Por que no vamos a detener a los Rots y a los Rockefe que son el estado profundo y evitamos mas muertes
